View Full Version : Christianity and Homosexuality
alixzander
08-20-2004, 04:37 PM
lol, alright guys please don't flame me for bring a "relgouis" topic up. baiscally i know there is a really bad view of christianity not only here but everywhere ealse. and i don't blame any of you. i my self, a "christian" get extremely pissed off about how many "christians" act. anyways, thats why i wanted to bring this up. there was a site that showed how the bible says nothing against homosexuality. i my self am bi. i just wanted to pass this site along so you guys could know not that all christians are ass holes.......altho most are. http://www.10percent.org/dispell.html#laws
more power to u, me? i want to fuck everything in sight, if i was BI i think my head would explode:
http://www.rotten.com/library/religion/bible/discrepancies/
Sistinas
08-20-2004, 04:51 PM
*I should not be a part of this conversation.Edited.*
donniedarko3
08-20-2004, 04:51 PM
man you dont know how glad I am that you werent trying to start any propaganda bible bullshit.....seriously. Im straight but have fought and gone through so many battles with religious leaders in my community and state. I just strongly believe in the separation of church and state and dont like the idea of the bible controlling my country.
one of my latest battles was against the Westboro Baptist Church in KS. Never heard of them? check out their site (this is serious)
http://www.godhatesfags.com
feral cat
08-20-2004, 05:04 PM
Fuck who ever or whatever you want as long as you do it in your own house and its not children or animals!
Im not a christian so could care less where anyone puts their dick/strap on or anything else!:D
Sam The Egg
08-20-2004, 05:31 PM
GHF.com is the worst website I've seen. I want to stab Rev. Phelps to death with a mellon baller
alixzander
08-20-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by donniedarko3
man you dont know how glad I am that you werent trying to start any propaganda bible bullshit.....seriously. Im straight but have fought and gone through so many battles with religious leaders in my community and state. I just strongly believe in the separation of church and state and dont like the idea of the bible controlling my country.
one of my latest battles was against the Westboro Baptist Church in KS. Never heard of them? check out their site (this is serious)
http://www.godhatesfags.com
thats just so isane! i can't even began to descrbibing how mesed up that web site is. honestly, where in the hell do you began with somthing as ignorant as that. ya, i am glad that you guys understand what i was trying to do. i just really want to get this message out. i personally could care less what spiritual beliefs you have, but i just don't want everyone to think that christians and the bible is full of hatred, fire, fear and brimstone. i really hate what is going on in the church today, and i don't expect most of you to care, lol. i mean if i was an outsider i sure as hell wouldn't. i just wanted to have the info here incase you were intrested.
Vodstok
08-20-2004, 05:42 PM
Hey guess what, the makers of that site have shown that they and their kids are living proof that genocide and eugenics might be a good idea.... We should cull their nazi asses.... just liek a locust swarm.
Sistinas
08-20-2004, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by alixzander
thats just so isane! i can't even began to descrbibing how mesed up that web site is. honestly, where in the hell do you began with somthing as ignorant as that. ya, i am glad that you guys understand what i was trying to do. i just really want to get this message out. i personally could care less what spiritual beliefs you have, but i just don't want everyone to think that christians and the bible is full of hatred, fire, fear and brimstone. i really hate what is going on in the church today, and i don't expect most of you to care, lol. i mean if i was an outsider i sure as hell wouldn't. i just wanted to have the info here incase you were intrested.
Im not going to flame-but this is a horror forum, not a gay rights soapbox.Im sure there are multiple websites out there that are devoted to this kind of thing.Did you really have to bring it here?I dont come into your alternative lifestyle forums and talk about horror.
Vodstok
08-20-2004, 05:45 PM
Maybe you should start :D
Dark..Raven
08-20-2004, 06:24 PM
I gotta agree with Sis.
Myself for one am a Catholic.. I also keep my own beliefs to myself...
It is not up to me to impose my beliefs on anyone.. OR to judge anyone. I dont have the right and no one else does for that matter...
This IS a horror forum.
Hate_Breeder
08-20-2004, 06:27 PM
Christianity pisses me off
Dark..Raven
08-20-2004, 06:28 PM
All beliefs piss everyone else off!!!!
That is why I keep my one beliefs to myself!
Vampenguin
08-20-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by feral cat
Fuck who ever or whatever you want as long as you do it in your own house and its not children or animals!
Amen!
Dark..Raven
08-20-2004, 06:30 PM
Agreed!!
wufong
08-20-2004, 07:06 PM
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
1 Corinthians 6:9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of JOSHUA YHWH GOD? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of JOSHUA YHWH GOD.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient
see there are a lot of verses against homosexuality in the bible.
:D
Sam The Egg
08-20-2004, 07:10 PM
don't start quoting the bible at me, wutang, or I'll show you why you shouldn't have clocks
wufong
08-20-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Sam The Egg
don't start quoting the bible at me, wutang, or I'll show you why you shouldn't have clocks
one. i wasn't qouting it at you.
and two ooooooooooo im sooooo scardie. and three wtf????????
massacre man
08-20-2004, 07:18 PM
my friend cody has a gay brother and im not very sure about one of my friends he says hes not but i dont beleive him
Sam The Egg
08-20-2004, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by wufong
one. i wasn't qouting it at you.
and two ooooooooooo im sooooo scardie. and three wtf????????
one. I was being facetious
two. yes, there is a quote in the bible that says you can't have clocks, or rather that you shouldn't use them
massacre man
08-20-2004, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Sam The Egg
one. I was being facetious
two. yes, there is a quote in the bible that says you can't have clocks, or rather that you shouldn't use them so you cant go to heaven if your a man?
massacre man
08-20-2004, 07:22 PM
oh whoops i missread it sorry lol
Sam The Egg
08-20-2004, 07:22 PM
massacre man
08-20-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Sam The Egg
yes the bunny finally
i missed the L in clocks
bloodrayne
08-20-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by wufong
see there are a lot of verses against homosexuality in the bible.
:D Actually...I was going to say that if anyone claims there is NOTHING in the bible about homosexuality, they skipped Leviticus...But, you already went there, so...Yeah
massacre man
08-20-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
Actually...I was going to say that if anyone claims there is NOTHING in the bible about homosexuality, they skipped Leviticus...But, you already went there, so...Yeah i would never be able to read the bible i dont even read whole threads
Sam The Egg
08-20-2004, 07:36 PM
the bible says a lot of things, many (read: most) of them aren't the least bit relevant to today
massacre man
08-20-2004, 07:38 PM
the last word i read in the bible was HOLY
Sistinas
08-20-2004, 07:39 PM
Do you think ALF could take Pee-Wee Herman in a streetfight?
Sam The Egg
08-20-2004, 07:40 PM
is Alf armed?
LilMissScareAll
08-20-2004, 07:40 PM
I'm also a Christian who doesn't believe that homosexuality is wrong.
massacre man
08-20-2004, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Sistinas
Do you think ALF could take Pee-Wee Herman in a streetfight? yes he can you never answered my question in the I HAVE 2 HORROR.COM FAMILIES NOW thread
Sam The Egg
08-20-2004, 07:42 PM
besides, Alf vs. Pee-Wee is only an undercard bout compared to my match:
http://www.zedlandfantasies.co.uk/BMFMgroup.jpg vs. http://www.parnasas.com/PopArena/Articles/sharks11.jpg
Biker Mice from Mars vs. Street Sharks!!
massacre man
08-20-2004, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Sam The Egg
besides, Alf vs. Pee-Wee is only an undercard bout compared to my match:
http://www.zedlandfantasies.co.uk/BMFMgroup.jpg vs. http://www.parnasas.com/PopArena/Articles/sharks11.jpg
Biker Mice from Mars vs. Street Sharks!! street sharks
i loved that when i was little
wufong
08-20-2004, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Sam The Egg
one. I was being facetious
two. yes, there is a quote in the bible that says you can't have clocks, or rather that you shouldn't use them
sorry........man i must be getting paranoid or something.............i think lol
bloodrayne
08-20-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Sam The Egg
besides, Alf vs. Pee-Wee is only an undercard bout compared to my match:Biker Mice from Mars vs. Street Sharks!! Ima hafta go with Street sharks on this one
HappyCamper
08-20-2004, 08:06 PM
Growing up as a Christian I have been taught that homosexuality is a sin. However, I personally don't see anything wrong with it. One should be able to love, have sex with anyone they want, within the means of the law. I'm straight and have several gay friends, and I don't love them anyless than I love my straight friends.
Sistinas
08-20-2004, 08:09 PM
I think F13th pt 5 is better than Jason Takes Manhattan.
Sam The Egg
08-20-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by HappyCamper
Growing up as a Christian I have been taught that homosexuality is a sin. However, I personally don't see anything wrong with it. One should be able to love, have sex with anyone they want, within the means of the law. I'm straight and have several gay friends, and I don't love them anyless than I love my straight friends.
Yes, yes, but who would win between Biker Mice from Mars and Street Sharks?
donniedarko3
08-20-2004, 08:34 PM
street sharks all the way. they can tear through their cages....
a band called between the buried and me wrote a song about this whole homosexuality/religion issue, in a song called "the arsonist" check it out.
juanhacko
08-20-2004, 08:56 PM
I'm Homosexual--but first of all I'm a fairly decent human being.
I doubt if too many of the group would be offended to be in my presence.
I consider myself fairly spiritual--But Christianity and religion can be very dark worlds--but they don't have to be.
I love a bumper sticker you see a lot in Texas--Hate Is Not A Family Value.
Stingy Jack
08-20-2004, 09:28 PM
First of all, for those of you who don't like people posting "non horror related threads" in the general forum, what's the big deal? This thread IS titled "Christianity and Homosexuality", so if you don't like the fucking topic, stay out of the thread or make your own. Don't come here and try to change the topic because you don't like it, ya fuckin' quiefs.
Next: I don't see how one can say "I'm a Christian but think homosexuality is okay." That seems a little weird to me. I mean, what if you die and go to heaven (hypothetically) and God says to you: "So, you claimed to be one of my children, yet you did not agree with everything I commanded. You just picked and chose certain things to believe based on how well they sat with you, and still you claimed to be a follower of my word. You, my friend, have some explaining to do." If the Bible blatantly says that homosexuality is wrong, don't you HAVE to believe it is wrong in order to still truthfully call yourself a Christian? I really don't think this issue is up for interpretation.
Personally: I think the Christian church is going to have a hard time in the not-so-distant future explaining their stance on this when science proves that homosexuality is genetically determined . It would be like someone having to go to hell for having brown eyes. Of course, they will probably simply deny the evidence and stay mired in their backwards superstitions.
juanhacko
08-20-2004, 09:36 PM
Didn't have to work at developing homosexuality--I was born this way--Thanks, Jack.
Sistinas
08-20-2004, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
First of all, for those of you who don't like people posting "non horror related threads" in the general forum, what's the big deal? This thread IS titled "Christianity and Homosexuality", so if you don't like the fucking topic, stay out of the thread or make your own. Don't come here and try to change the topic because you don't like it, ya fuckin' quiefs.
Fuck you.
wufong
08-20-2004, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
First of all, for those of you who don't like people posting "non horror related threads" in the general forum, what's the big deal? This thread IS titled "Christianity and Homosexuality", so if you don't like the fucking topic, stay out of the thread or make your own. Don't come here and try to change the topic because you don't like it, ya fuckin' quiefs.
Next: I don't see how one can say "I'm a Christian but think homosexuality is okay." That seems a little weird to me. I mean, what if you die and go to heaven (hypothetically) and God says to you: "So, you claimed to be one of my children, yet you did not agree with everything I commanded. You just picked and chose certain things to believe based on how well they sat with you, and still you claimed to be a follower of my word. You, my friend, have some explaining to do." If the Bible blatantly says that homosexuality is wrong, don't you HAVE to believe it is wrong in order to still truthfully call yourself a Christian? I really don't think this issue is up for interpretation.
Personally: I think the Christian church is going to have a hard time in the not-so-distant future explaining their stance on this when science proves that homosexuality is genetically determined . It would be like someone having to go to hell for having brown eyes. Of course, they will probably simply deny the evidence and stay mired in their backwards superstitions.
i think stingy has made some good points. (for a atheist) i've made those points about homosexuals picking and chosing when it comes to the bible in yahoo once, and the howls of protest could be heard around the cyber world. so except for that rubbish about homosexuality is a genitic thing. i'm in a 100% agreement with stingy
Stingy Jack
08-20-2004, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Sistinas
Fuck you.
Fuck me? Fuck you!
Sistinas
08-20-2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
Fuck me? Fuck you!
ditto
bloodrayne
08-20-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
Fuck me? Fuck you! LOL...Gotta frame that one...'Stingy's Shortest Post Ever'... :D
Stingy Jack
08-20-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Sistinas
ditto
Double-ditto (I see "many-post" potential in this little argument. :) )
Wu ... What the hell? You and I are agreeing tonight?? Good thing I don't believe in omens. ;)
Sistinas
08-20-2004, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
Double-ditto (I see "many-post" potential in this little argument. :)
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Good point!:D
Hate_Breeder
08-20-2004, 09:59 PM
Double You Tee Eff has happened to this thread. To get back on topic....Gays are cool with me as long as they dont hit on me. Other than that gay guys are pretty cool. Trip me out a little though lol
Tubalcain
08-20-2004, 10:32 PM
i am a christian and as far as i can tell, the message that Jesus was giving was
1. love everyone(especially the lord)
2. treat everyone respectfully
3. try to be a good person
i dont see the problem with homosexuality because its not something thats going to affect me as long as i'm doing what im supposed to be doing.
Sam The Egg
08-21-2004, 06:22 AM
Ok, so Street Sharks win 3-0, next match is:
http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionsbook/inigo.jpgvshttp://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Errol+Flynn/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/*-http://www.clareworley.com/Errol_Flynn_5.jpg
Inigo Montoya vs. Errol Flynn
HappyCamper
08-21-2004, 02:04 PM
My name is Inigo Montoya you called my father, prepare to die!
movieman64
08-21-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
First of all, for those of you who don't like people posting "non horror related threads" in the general forum, what's the big deal? This thread IS titled "Christianity and Homosexuality", so if you don't like the fucking topic, stay out of the thread or make your own. Don't come here and try to change the topic because you don't like it, ya fuckin' quiefs.
Next: I don't see how one can say "I'm a Christian but think homosexuality is okay." That seems a little weird to me. I mean, what if you die and go to heaven (hypothetically) and God says to you: "So, you claimed to be one of my children, yet you did not agree with everything I commanded. You just picked and chose certain things to believe based on how well they sat with you, and still you claimed to be a follower of my word. You, my friend, have some explaining to do." If the Bible blatantly says that homosexuality is wrong, don't you HAVE to believe it is wrong in order to still truthfully call yourself a Christian? I really don't think this issue is up for interpretation.
Personally: I think the Christian church is going to have a hard time in the not-so-distant future explaining their stance on this when science proves that homosexuality is genetically determined . It would be like someone having to go to hell for having brown eyes. Of course, they will probably simply deny the evidence and stay mired in their backwards superstitions.
I think some people are a product of their environment. In prison many offenders refer to it as, " forced homosexuality", do to their situation. They may be genetically disposed to homosexuality, but like some genetic traits it may not manifest itself unless certain conditions exist.
As far as religion goes, if you look around enough you'll find one that will let you do most anything.
Sistinas
08-21-2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by movieman64
I think some people are a product of their environment. In prison many offenders refer to it as, " forced homosexuality", do to their situation. They may be genetically disposed to homosexuality, but like some genetic traits it may not manifest itself unless certain conditions exist.
Thats fucking ignorant.Are you saying Im not gay only because Ive never been forced to live with women only?
massacre man
08-21-2004, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Sistinas
Thats fucking ignorant.Are you saying Im not gay only because Ive never been forced to live with women only? thats what i got from what i saw
movieman64
08-21-2004, 03:25 PM
I may be ignorant, but please allow me to retort.
As I said some people. not everyone! It's kind of like peer pressure. Given a certain situation an individual may engage in an activity they had not before. They might like it, they might not. They may adapt or incorporate it into their life/lifestyle, or they might not. The event might make them realize why they had the "feelings" they had.
For me, as long as your not trying to be gay with me it's OK. It's your party, and you can pick the music.
It's just my opinion, I might be wrong.
massacre man
08-21-2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by movieman64
I may be ignorant, but please allow me to retort.
As I said some people. not everyone! It's kind of like peer pressure. Given a certain situation an individual may engage in an activity they had not before. They might like it, they might not. They may adapt or incorporate it into their life/lifestyle, or they might not. The event might make them realize why they had the "feelings" they had.
For me, as long as your not trying to be gay with me it's OK. It's your party, and you can pick the music.
It's just my opinion, I might be wrong. you do realize sis is a girl right?
no offense to you or anything