Kill Bill II?

[nine9]

Hey I bought it and just watched it. I know that alot of people like it better but I found it very slow..........yes I know totally different type of movie...........but it is a sequel...........

I do think it was important to the story and well done.........just slow. The first is a favorite of mine!

Agree? Disagree?

[movieman64]

Not trying to kiss any booty, or tread on Stingy's post about everybody getting along, but I totally agree. Very slow. It was kind of a pre-queal/sequal. You can't really watch one and not the other, so a good way to make money for the filmmakers.

Kind of OT...my wife and I took the kids to Kings Island a couple of weeks ago, and while on the road there, I saw a little black sports car with the license plate, " NINE 9", I knew it couldn't be you but they say everybody has a twin...

[nine9]

Originally posted by movieman64
Not trying to kiss any booty, or tread on Stingy's post about everybody getting along, but I totally agree. Very slow. It was kind of a pre-queal/sequal. You can't really watch one and not the other, so a good way to make money for the filmmakers.

Kind of OT...my wife and I took the kids to Kings Island a couple of weeks ago, and while on the road there, I saw a little black sports car with the license plate, " NINE 9", I knew it couldn't be you but they say everybody has a twin...

TOO FREAKY! But I don't know how to drive....if I did though, that is probably what I would have! I do have a nine t shirt...........so if you see a long haired blonde wearing a black t with nine....well prob me LOL!

[Sam The Egg]

not a sequel, not a prequel, not a different type of movie. Same movie. It was written and shot as one movie. It was split up in post-production because Miramax thought it would have been too long. It's the same movie.

[fluffho]

i still havent watched the first one, although i want to. im never good at watching movies lol.

i still hafto watch the others!! been wanting to watch that for a while, its been sittin in the drawer for forever

that and Made, Stitch, Cowboy Bebop the movie, LOTR3.. ugh, so many, i dont even nkow anymore!! all this shit i buy but never watch lol

[nine9]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
not a sequel, not a prequel, not a different type of movie. Same movie. It was written and shot as one movie. It was split up in post-production because Miramax thought it would have been too long. It's the same movie.

You are right, and I would have liked to see the second one spliced with the first all as one movie....would have been long but worth it! Shouldn't have seperated them.

[Sam The Egg]

oh, it IS worth it. Put them together and it's unbelievable (hence the top 100 placement)

[nine9]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
oh, it IS worth it. Put them together and it's unbelievable (hence the top 100 placement)

Did you see it that way....and if so how?

[xGuardianx03]

Originally posted by nine9
Hey I bought it and just watched it. I know that alot of people like it better but I found it very slow..........yes I know totally different type of movie...........but it is a sequel...........

I do think it was important to the story and well done.........just slow. The first is a favorite of mine!

Agree? Disagree?


Just watched it a couple of days ago and I loved it. I agree that it is a bit slower but I never thought it was too slow. I think Vol. 1 and 2 form a wonderful movie. I do wish we would have seen a little more of a fight between Bill and The Bride but I was still very satisfied.

Oh yeah, have you guys watched the deleted scene on the dvd? It's freaking hilarious.

[nine9]

Originally posted by xGuardianx03
Just watched it a couple of days ago and I loved it. I agree that it is a bit slower but I never thought it was too slow. I think Vol. 1 and 2 form a wonderful movie. I do wish we would have seen a little more of a fight between Bill and The Bride but I was still very satisfied.

Oh yeah, have you guys watched the deleted scene on the dvd? It's freaking hilarious.

No not yet.....I will........... Still say I would like to see the combined version!

:)

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by nine9
Did you see it that way....and if so how?

A while ago (early this summer) I got a bootleg of the second movie, so I watched them in succession.




There was apparently supposed to be a bigger fight between Bill and The Bride, like the one he described, but they ran over time or over budget, so Harvey Weinstein or someone apparently said to wrap it up quicker, so we got what we got.

[nine9]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
A while ago (early this summer) I got a bootleg of the second movie, so I watched them in succession.




There was apparently supposed to be a bigger fight between Bill and The Bride, like the one he described, but they ran over time or over budget, so Harvey Weinstein or someone apparently said to wrap it up quicker, so we got what we got.

Sounds interesting.............would kill to see Tarantino's first cut though.......who knows maybe someday they will release it!

[Sam The Egg]

they'd be stupid not to

[nine9]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
they'd be stupid not to

True, also if people can sit through Lord Of The Rings.......for sure they would sit through this!

[Hate_Breeder]

Originally posted by nine9
True, also if people can sit through Lord Of The Rings.......for sure they would sit through this!

God i hate LOTR

[Sam The Egg]

I hate Mexicans*



























































































* - Not really, dumbass

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
not a sequel, not a prequel, not a different type of movie. Same movie. It was written and shot as one movie. It was split up in post-production because Miramax thought it would have been too long. It's the same movie.

thank you sam you saved me the trouble of explaining it.....ITS ONE MOVIE to long for a whole movie split into 2 parts.....

PS Glad to see you back sam

[GorePhobia]

also to let everyone know in Japan they already released a 2 disc one long japanese uncut version of the film where nothing is in black and white or blue screen backround..........i saw clips and it looks very brutal.....im gonna try to get it on ebay or something

[Arioch]

Neither one of these movies lived up to the hype surrounding them....i was let down by both....but on top of that...is the colossal let down of the LOTR....i agree HB, LOTR is something i will NEVER watch for fun....

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by nine9
Hey I bought it and just watched it. I know that alot of people like it better but I found it very slow..........yes I know totally different type of movie...........but it is a sequel...........

I do think it was important to the story and well done.........just slow. The first is a favorite of mine!

Agree? Disagree?

Kill Bill Vol. 1 = a piece of shit movie that i did not finish watching
Kill Bill Vol. 2 = " " " ' ' " " " " " " " will neer watch

[Arioch]

Batman and Robin = death to the batman movie legacy....

[darthvonpokemon]

KBV2 totally sucked compared to KBV1. Too much shit to list. I agree with the quote from a critic who said Quentin Tarantino is in love with his own voice when reviewing V2. It was a major let down on so many levels.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by Arioch
Batman and Robin = death to the batman movie legacy....

Batman Begins: rebirth of batman movie legacy. That movie will be as awsm as B&R sucked

[eBuzzz]

I haven't seen it. I've heard that it was slow and not as much action as the first one. I loved the first one. I haven't bought 1 or 2 on DVD yet. Just waiting till they release it in a set with all that extra shit.
I watched the first one again last night on DVD and watched the teaser trailer for the 2nd one. And the teaser was so bad. That's why it's a teaser, right? I don't know.
But yeah, Uma's awesome.

[darthvonpokemon]

KBV1 was a fantastic mix of genres, over the top martial arts, anime and music. KBV2 had none of that. There is about a 5 minute fight scene (if that much) between The Bride and Elle, maybe 2 minutes when The Bride and her Kung Fu master spar and the worst of the worst: about 10 seconds of the big showdown between The Bride and Bill where (and I am NOT making this up) they never even leave their chairs where they were conversing. No interesting music bits, no new characters (except for the Kung Fu master which has been in every Samurai Sunday movie on your local UHF channel and The Bride's 4 year old daughter), no anime. Even if you did put the entire story in chronological order to even out the pacing, the second half would still be flat as hell plus you'd still be stuck with the weak ending of Bill and The Bride. All the loose ends are tied up at the end for the most part, but it still leaves you with a feeling that something more should've happened.
CK

[nine9]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
KBV1 was a fantastic mix of genres, over the top martial arts, anime and music. KBV2 had none of that. There is about a 5 minute fight scene (if that much) between The Bride and Elle, maybe 2 minutes when The Bride and her Kung Fu master spar and the worst of the worst: about 10 seconds of the big showdown between The Bride and Bill where (and I am NOT making this up) they never even leave their chairs where they were conversing. No interesting music bits, no new characters (except for the Kung Fu master which has been in every Samurai Sunday movie on your local UHF channel and The Bride's 4 year old daughter), no anime. Even if you did put the entire story in chronological order to even out the pacing, the second half would still be flat as hell plus you'd still be stuck with the weak ending of Bill and The Bride. All the loose ends are tied up at the end for the most part, but it still leaves you with a feeling that something more should've happened.
CK

All that is so true....but as Sam says......if it was meant to be one film.......It would have been balanced.

A bad call..........Left us with one great film and one slow one.........which should have never happened in the first place!

[darthvonpokemon]

No it wouldn't. All the great action sequences would still be in the first half of it. Budd shoots her and ties her up, 5 minute battle with Elle (which could've been massive since she quite obviously held a grudge against Beatrix) and that awful ass ending with Bill would still be in the second half. If Beatrix's hit list was rearranged perhaps it could be more even, but nothing can fix the Bill ending (unless she killed him first and worked her way down the list instead).
CK

[nine9]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
No it wouldn't. All the great action sequences would still be in the first half of it. Budd shoots her and ties her up, 5 minute battle with Elle (which could've been massive since she quite obviously held a grudge against Beatrix) and that awful ass ending with Bill would still be in the second half. If Beatrix's hit list was rearranged perhaps it could be more even, but nothing can fix the Bill ending (unless she killed him first and worked her way down the list instead).
CK

uh uh......T would have cut it just right.........I'm sure

Prob a perfect flic before the butchering.

[darthvonpokemon]

He supposedly wrote it out all first before the weird time frames ( I do it myself sometimes as well for my screenplays, but not often). They were supposedly all shot at the same time so he didn't do such a hot job on editing V2 then to make flow as well as V1. It almost seems like he wasted all the good ideas and footage on V1 and just culled the leftovers for V2. Very un-Q-ish.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

the short fight was because they ran out of time/budget. They were supposed to do the fight on the beach, but the producers told them to wrap it up. The short fight fits the story just fine. If The Bride can wipe out the Crazy 88, she shouldn't have THAT much trouble killing Bill, who is no doubt out of practice at actually fighting. And it worked in the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart technique better than a long epic-type sword fight would have.

[darthvonpokemon]

I find it hard to believe that after the success of the KBV1 that Q wasn't given cart blanche to do as he pleased on V2. Hell, he could've invested some of his own money into for a piece of the back end. V2 seemed like a total farce compared to the first one as far as I'm concerned. All the pieces were in place and they seemed to just fall where they may. If and when Q does do a follow-up (Copperhead's daughter comes for revenge- 15 years from now), I hope he can put a little more effort into it than what seemed apparent in V2.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

is the fact that it's one movie not getting through to you for a reason?

[darthvonpokemon]

Not at all, Sam. Is the fact I find the second half of the movie inferior to the first half not getting through to you ?
CK

[Sam The Egg]

it's getting through, but your "they should've had more money or time since Kill Bill 1 was so successful" reasoning is bullshit because, once again, it was all one movie. Let me know when this fact DOES get through to you.

[darthvonpokemon]

I'm a film maker myself so I know all about time and budgets. I wish I had half the time and budget Q did for the second half that he did. Nine asked who saw it and what their opinions were. I gave mine. You don't care for my reasons ? Fine. Live with it.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

It. Was. All. One. Movie. One movie. How many movies? 1. Volume 2 is half of a movie. Volume 1 is half of the same movie. It's one movie. ONE movie. One movie. One movie. One movie. One movie. One movie. One movie. One movie. One movie. Didn't hear me? Don't worry, I'll say it again. ONE GOD DAMN MOVIE! It's not that hard of a concept. Just take the number of movies you seem to THINK that it is, and divide by two. Or subtract one. Either way, it'll get you the actual number of movies, which is ONE. If it hasn't sunk in yet, let me know and I'll tell you again about how it was one movie.

[darthvonpokemon]

Is the fact I find the second half of the movie inferior to the first half not getting through to you ?
Feel free to repeat yourself. As quoted above, I understand it is "one movie" since you love to keep saying that. I didn't care for the SECOND HALF of the "one movie". You liked the second half of the "one movie" then that is your opinion. I didn't.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

And that's fine. I don't give a shit THAT you didn't like it. But all the stuff around that is stupid.


I find it hard to believe that after the success of the KBV1 that Q wasn't given cart blanche to do as he pleased on V2.
Maybe because it had already been filmed. Remember, one movie.

I'm a film maker myself so I know all about time and budgets. I wish I had half the time and budget Q did for the second half that he did.
Know much about counting? One movie.



But, maybe the fact that it's one movie isn't where you're going horribly wrong. Allow me to explain the concept of something being one movie as opposed to it being two movies. When you make one movie, you don't wait around to see how well people like the first part of it. You make it all at once. When you make two movies you can see how people like the first one. In some cases (Scary Movie 4), they might not do that. But the option is there, unlike when there is one movie. Same kind of thing with the budget. See, you have a budget for a movie. But when you do two movies, you have a budget for both movies. Understand? One Movie = One Budget. Two Movies = Two Budgets.

[darthvonpokemon]

hmmm so Q was completely unable to see how unbalanced the two halves of the movie would be when they were released ? I wonder how much time and money it would take to film secondary footage of a stand-in rewriting Beatrix's hit list so all the non-stop action didn't happen in the first half of the film and let the second half fall flat due to lack of any of the enthusiasm the first half held ? No interesting music, cross genres, anime, over the top action, etc in the second half of the movie, but plenty in the first. Perhaps the script supervisor and editor should be held equally accountable then for putting everything many people enjoyed in the first half of the movie and having nothing left to put in the second half.
So far all anyone here has heard is you repeating over and over "it's one movie, it's one movie". Did you have any opinions on it or did you specifically post here just to hear yourself speak. Rather than your "one movie" mantra, you haven't said anything at all.
CK

[nine9]

Well....... guys..............I get both your points here, both make sense to me.........now I will silently slip out of the firing range.......lol! :rolleyes: :p

[Sam The Egg]

"No interesting music"
I, for one, like the Dollars Trilogy music

"cross genres"
There were at least two (Spaghetti Western and 70's Kung Fu) in addition to the overall Revenge Movie genre

"anime"
Why put anime in it? One anime sequence in the movie is enough, two would be redundant. Besides, there's no place to put an anime sequence. It made sense for O-Ren's backstory.

"over the top action"
Two eyes being popped out? Not a lot, but more than none.


Q was completely unable to see how unbalanced the two halves of the movie would be when they were released ?
Perhaps he didn't think they were unbalanced. Besides, at the risk of being redundant, it was one movie. It was split after it was done.


I wonder how much time and money it would take to film secondary footage of a stand-in rewriting Beatrix's hit list so all the non-stop action didn't happen in the first half of the film and let the second half fall flat due to lack of any of the enthusiasm the first half held ?
Okay, where was there non-stop action? The Crazy 88 scene? Fine. Split that between both movies. That'll make them equal.

So far all anyone here has heard is you repeating over and over "it's one movie, it's one movie".

Maybe if you'd gotten that it's one movie instead of going on and on about stuff that means nothing, people (me) wouldn't have had to tell you over and over again that it's one movie.

Did you have any opinions on it or did you specifically post here just to hear yourself speak.

Yeah. I've got one of those voice-typing things.
As for opinions, I'll save them for my site.

Rather than your "one movie" mantra, you haven't said anything at all.

No, I gave the "one movie" mantra. But other than that I haven't said anything because you haven't said anything other than "Blah blah blah budget and time for second movie" then said that you didn't like it. I don't care that you didn't like it, and the fact that it is one movie completely negates the "budget and time for the second movie" thing.

[darthvonpokemon]

The thread asked for opinions, Sam, and you've offered none but the opinion that I somehow don't understand it was "one movie". If you're keeping your opinions for your site, then why bother posting here at all on the subject ? If I had as little to say about it as you've done, I wouldn't have bothered to say anything at all. V2 pales in comparison to V1 as far as I'm concerned. I gave my opinions why here. All you seem to want to do is repute them. You sound like a broken record at this point with the "one movie" thing. If that's all you had to say, you said it. I still say the second half sucked compared to the first. Drop it already. This has gotten almost as boring as the second half of the movie itself.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

I've given an opinion, that they were great when put together. That's all I'm saying here. But it's an opinion.

And again, I say it's one movie because you obviously weren't grasping the fact that it's one movie, as you kept referring to it like it's a seperate movie.

[GorePhobia]

sam this guy is just stupid.....

ill say something

the anime sequence is in the same spot as the flash back sequence in V2 is which is B being trained by Pai Mei.....it has the same kind of feel and makes you not miss the anime sequence......so that is 70's Kung Fu....then it mixes Spagetti Western and Revenge films also a little pinch of Italian Horror....by one of Quentin's favorites Lucio Fulci.......

Just like Quentin said in an interview....

"Kill Bill Volume One is all about Kill Kill Kill.....and Volume Two is all about Bill Bill Bill.......it lays out the story and makes it more believable.......If the fight scene at the end with Bill would have been pure slaughter it would have set Beatrixx back a notch.....she wanted to go from a murderous life to a life as a wife and mother.....which as Bill said you can't just jump into....it showed her kill the Crazy 88's then as she found out her daughter was alive it showed how killing Bill would have finished what she wanted and be able to fullfill her wants as a mother.....She took her daughter and also got the revenge she wanted....plain and simple.....

Volume One showed her strength of how she was able to get her revenge and Volume Two was resolving the story and finishing her revenge and also changing her life by regaining her daughter who she once thought she lost.

Volume Two had Quentin's trademark dialogue......THATS WHAT PEOPLE WANTED!! Die hard Tarentino fans wanted dialogue mixed with some of the aroma of the first film and in my opinion he gave it that by cutting the two films in half and releasing them as two seperate films......also by doing that in my opinion he made more money....because releasing one he made about $70 million in America and about $180 million worldwide and then Volume Two made about $66 million in America and about $150 million worldwide so total it made $136 million dollars in America when it would have only made about $80 million in America so I think that was smart thinking by Quentin......

Enough Said

GoRe

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
sam this guy is just stupid.....

Which is probably why I'm still arguing with him

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Which is probably why I'm still arguing with him

you probably....did you read all what i said?

does that make sense to you sam.....am I right?

[darthvonpokemon]

And again, I say it's one movie because you obviously weren't grasping the fact that it's one movie, as you kept referring to it like it's a seperate movie.
Let it go already, would you ? The studio releasing it deemed it worthy to be $16 to see "one movie" at 2 seperate times instead of $8 and I haven't seen any video store renting them both together as "one movie" at a single rental price. It's one story. It was filmed consecutively. They did the same shit with 'Lord of the Rings'. It won 3 Academy Awards for Best Pictures, not one. Fuckin' drop it already. I've personally wasted enough time just watching the second half of your "one movie". Wasting more time debating you about our opinions on it today makes me like it even less now. We'll talk again on it in 15 years if Q does make a third installment on it. Other than that, I'm done discussing it. Period.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

It won 3 Academy Awards for Best Pictures, not one.
Actually...


Anyways, there's a difference. LOTR was always three movies. That's because there were three books. Kill Bill was one movie until post-production. But, there I go again, mentioning how it was one movie. I mean, sure, you brought it up again, and I'm only replying to you, but it must be my fault.

Other than that, I'm done discussing it. Period.
I'll keep that in mind

[GorePhobia]

and its 12 years.....

but it is all one movie he would have released it as one movie if he was allowed to do so but it was too long to release as one movie so he cut it into to halves aka volumes......see LOTR was acually 3 movies seperate movies and names aka sub titles.....volume 1 and 2 is just the halves of one film.....hopefully you can feel dumb now

[Living/Dead]

Well I for one liked Vol. 2 more than the first, mainly because it actually seemed like a Tarantino movie. And the battle between Beatrix and Bill at the end was pefect, the last thing we needed was another long and drawn out fight scene.

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by Living/Dead
Well I for one liked Vol. 2 more than the first, mainly because it actually seemed like a Tarantino movie. And the battle between Beatrix and Bill at the end was pefect, the last thing we needed was another long and drawn out fight scene.

i deff agree with you there because it shows how she changed from straight out killer to killing just because she wanted to have her daughter and finishing her revenge list lol it was great nontheless

[darthvonpokemon]

Good. And you can tell your little buddy Gore that 'Titanic' is still the biggest blockbuster in the world by ticket prices. Doesn't mean it was necessarily good now, does it ? Brittany Spears sells out concerts everywhere and I wouldn't exactly consider her to be a talent as well. You know what they say, Sam. 'Opinions are like assholes- everyone has one.' I congratulate you on having 2 (one of course being Gore LOL). Name calling and insulting is always a good way to start off a reply to a thread that you had no interest in, much less were conversing with the parties who were.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

Other than that, I'm done discussing it. Period.

And who had "15 minutes or under" in the betting pool?

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
Good. And you can tell your little buddy Gore that 'Titanic' is still the biggest blockbuster in the world by ticket prices. Doesn't mean it was necessarily good now, does it ? Brittany Spears sells out concerts everywhere and I wouldn't exactly consider her to be a talent as well. You know what they say, Sam. 'Opinions are like assholes- everyone has one.' I congratulate you on having 2 (one of course being Gore LOL). Name calling and insulting is always a good way to start off a reply to a thread that you had no interest in, much less were conversing with the parties who were.
CK


your oh so cool....im just making you realize that it was one flick cut in two during post-production like sam said...and LOTR was made for 3 different films.....and yes Titanic was a smash at the box office but that was because 11 year old girls went to see Leo 15 times and 12 yr old horny boys wanted to see Kate Winslits tits 15 times....so thats why it made so much money

[darthvonpokemon]

I was merely pointing out that your kiss-ass of a buddy should let people talking talk instead of jumping in with his comments. Considering his post is filled with spelling errors, missing contractions and is a continual run on sentence (besides not exactly being correct), I find it amusing he has the nerve to refer to anyone as being "stupid".
CK

[GorePhobia]

you know whats funny.....i was one of the first talking in this thread....and im not kiss ass acually cause sam and i have had our difference in the past....and i wasnt jumping in i was acually giving my opinion which in fact was more of an opinion then what you gave......

btw no one cares what you think :)

[GorePhobia]

i also had 15 minutes or less in the bidding :)

[Sam The Egg]

*gives Gorey ¥4.50*

[fluffho]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
im not kiss ass

hehehe.. ive known u for a while kid... i dunno about that one.. :D

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by fluffho
hehehe.. ive known u for a while kid... i dunno about that one.. :D

thats funny fluff ha ha ha you've known me on here.....im much different in real life and plus who told you to speak? i know i didnt


**takes the 4.50 from Sam**

[fluffho]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
thats funny fluff ha ha ha you've known me on here.....im much different in real life and plus who told you to speak? i know i didnt


**takes the 4.50 from Sam**

so what? are we talking about you being kiss ass in real life or online? at least in this situatoin... we're online, arent we???

and this is a forum, am i not free to read and reply where i want? ill speak whenever i want to.. just as you do....

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by fluffho
so what? are we talking about you being kiss ass in real life or online? at least in this situatoin... we're online, arent we???

and this is a forum, am i not free to read and reply where i want? ill speak whenever i want to.. just as you do....

good as long as we are on the same page...the douche bag talking to sam said i couldnt reply to what they were talking about i was just butting in.....ne ways i know i kiss ass on here to sam and evis because at first they treated me like shit but now i see what they talk about and now i dont kiss ass i just agree at what i think is right

[fluffho]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
i know i kiss ass on here to sam and evis because at first they treated me like shit but now i see what they talk about and now i dont kiss ass i just agree at what i think is right

..... well alright then.....

[GorePhobia]

so does that answer what you were saying?

[darthvonpokemon]

you know whats funny
The fact that you can't spell or make a single comprehensive sentence ? Sam and I were discussing something. You suddenly reappear in the thread calling me stupid. How ironic is that ? You type like you'd never completed the third grade, can't seem to put together a unilateral, cohesive thought without "...." throughout your posts and probably speak in one worded replies so you don't trip over yourself when trying to answer someone as not to confuse yourself. You have no credibility to refer to anyone as stupid. As for being a "kiss-ass", it would appear you are exactly that. Why else come returning to the thread the way you did ? "Look at me, Sam !". You are pathetic at best, loathesome at worst and trully a sad individual if trying to make friends with people by insulting someone they're debating with is the only way you can try to feel any kinship whatsoever. At least Sam didn't feel the need to resort to your childish behavior (and we have been jawing at each other all day on this). We might not agree on much on the thread, but at least he has shown some class. You on the other hand, come off as a miserable joke and I'm quite sure everyone sees right through you. Try picking up a book rather than watching another movie to attack someone who didn't think it was as "cool" as you did. You might be a better person for it.
CK

[fluffho]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
so does that answer what you were saying?

sure. but just the fact that you admit to kissing ass in the first place diminishes your argument. how is anyone to discern whether your merely kissing ass or actually agreeing with someone who happens to also be a good friend?

me? ive gotten into arguments on here and probably have a few enemies. maybe even some enemies turned friends.. but ive never kissed any ass....

but... different strokes for different folks..

[Sam The Egg]

way to stick by your noninvolvment, darth.

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
The fact that you can't spell or make a single comprehensive sentence ? Sam and I were discussing something. You suddenly reappear in the thread calling me stupid. How ironic is that ? You type like you'd never completed the third grade, can't seem to put together a unilateral, cohesive thought without "...." throughout your posts and probably speak in one worded replies so you don't trip over yourself when trying to answer someone as not to confuse yourself. You have no credibility to refer to anyone as stupid. As for being a "kiss-ass", it would appear you are exactly that. Why else come returning to the thread the way you did ? "Look at me, Sam !". You are pathetic at best, loathesome at worst and trully a sad individual if trying to make friends with people by insulting someone they're debating with is the only way you can try to feel any kinship whatsoever. At least Sam didn't feel the need to resort to your childish behavior (and we have been jawing at each other all day on this). We might not agree on much on the thread, but at least he has shown some class. You on the other hand, come off as a miserable joke and I'm quite sure everyone sees right through you. Try picking up a book rather than watching another movie to attack someone who didn't think it was as "cool" as you did. You might be a better person for it.
CK

Wow nice long sentences man. I acually don't type like I'm at fucking school because its the computer and you dont need correct grammar you moron....I acually do that so i can type faster and as for completing the 3rd grade im acually a senior in high school and im going to film school next year....other then you your probably a lonely old dork who sits in his house on his computer hoping to get laid....I on the other hand have a job have a life have school and also have a girlfriend so who is the pathetic one fighting over Kill Bill being one or two movies....It's one whole movie so get over it douchebag and no I dont wanna make friends with a n00b and moron like yourself

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by fluffho
sure. but just the fact that you admit to kissing ass in the first place diminishes your argument. how is anyone to discern whether your merely kissing ass or actually agreeing with someone who happens to also be a good friend?

me? ive gotten into arguments on here and probably have a few enemies. maybe even some enemies turned friends.. but ive never kissed any ass....

but... different strokes for different folks..

well hunny I acually only tried to be cool with Sam and Evis so they would stop flamming me but then I realized that I was a douche re-thought my statements and now I am merely agreeing with a friend....I am not kissing his ass....and I also have few enemies.....:)

[fluffho]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
well hunny I acually only tried to be cool with Sam and Evis so they would stop flamming me but then I realized that I was a douche re-thought my statements and now I am merely agreeing with a friend....I am not kissing his ass....and I also have few enemies.....:)

well if anyone is being a dick to me for no reason, no way would i try to kiss ass to get them to like me. but in this case, you admit that you were being a dousche.. so........ good.. job??? :D i have enemies too, but its just like in real life. wa wa wa girly whiner shit lol

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
way to stick by your noninvolvment, darth.

was that said towards me? or the other guy :)

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
way to stick by your noninvolvment, darth.

[GorePhobia]

**smacks self**

im an idiot lol i saw that heh i need to look before writing......:rolleyes:

[fluffho]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
**smacks self**

im an idiot lol i saw that heh i need to look before writing......:rolleyes:

hahahaha.. that was pretty bad. and thats coming from me... i do that sort of stupid shit a lot we sohuld have a competition

[darthvonpokemon]

Hey, Sam, I dropped the film topic long ago. If your little wannabe buddy wants to jump in and start talking shit to me on something completely unrelated, that's fine. I've got no beef with you. We talked, didn't agree and that was it. There was no name calling or insults being exchanged between us which is how it should've been. Gore was the one trying to side up with you by calling me stupid when he had nothing to do with our discussion. Sorry if you don't see something wrong with that from my point of view. I'm sure you would not appreciate it if someone interrupted us by saying "Oh, DVP, why bother ? Sam is an idiot ?". I would've taken exeption to that even if they were trying to agree with what I was saying and told them so. There's an old adage "Slander is the first sign of a lost argument". Apparently, Gore can't read or comprehend very well so it would only make sense he wouldn't understand that if he had tried to sound out the words from a book that had no pictures in it. We disagree on a film ? Vive la differance. I don't see why I should let him off the hook for his stupid actions.
CK

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by fluffho
hahahaha.. that was pretty bad. and thats coming from me... i do that sort of stupid shit a lot we sohuld have a competition

yeah i should have read it better lol

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
Hey, Sam, I dropped the film topic long ago. If your little wannabe buddy wants to jump in and start talking shit to me on something completely unrelated, that's fine. I've got no beef with you. We talked, didn't agree and that was it. There was no name calling or insults being exchanged between us which is how it should've been. Gore was the one trying to side up with you by calling me stupid when he had nothing to do with our discussion. Sorry if you don't see something wrong with that from my point of view. I'm sure you would not appreciate it if someone interrupted us by saying "Oh, DVP, why bother ? Sam is an idiot ?". I would've taken exeption to that even if they were trying to agree with what I was saying and told them so. There's an old adage "Slander is the first sign of a lost argument". Apparently, Gore can't read or comprehend very well so it would only make sense he wouldn't understand that if he had tried to sound out the words from a book that had no pictures in it. We disagree on a film ? Vive la differance. I don't see why I should let him off the hook for his stupid actions.
CK

listen dude okay....I shouldnt have said names I was just flamming people like normal....I just thought it was funny that you were fighting over weither or not it was in fact one or two films.....Don't say I can't read or comprehend because thats just a lie. I am a smart person so stop with the accusations that I am of the 3rd grade intellect because I am acually a smart person but I tend to use language and name calling in my flamming. If you don't like it then thats fine, but thats how I am and you'll just have to deal with it buddy.

GoRe

[Sam The Egg]

we weren't fighting. I was doing my best to calmly explain where he was wrong.

[darthvonpokemon]

No, it's not ok, "douchebag" (since you love to use that word so much). You show up here name calling people you know nothing about. You set yourself up with the "stupid" remark. Just as I suspected, you are still in school. You have a job, girlfriend and a life outside this thread ? Then why not grow up and act like it.
I already am making movies and am quite successful in that field. Remember that the next time you're prematurely ejaculating on your girlfriend's thigh at the drive-in for some film you think is "cool", you incomprehensible know-nothing. I hope my picture will be in in your little film school book by the time you're in school, flipping you off and saying "Who's stupid now, douchebag ?". Unfortunately, schools tend to carry textbooks, so I'd be better off just sending you an autographed picture. Can you read cursive handwriting ? I want to be sure that you'll be able to understand my message jotted onto it.
CK

[Sam The Egg]

Gee, darth, why don't you say how you REALLY feel? :rolleyes:

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
No, it's not ok, "douchebag" (since you love to use that word so much). You show up here name calling people you know nothing about. You set yourself up with the "stupid" remark. Just as I suspected, you are still in school. You have a job, girlfriend and a life outside this thread ? Then why not grow up and act like it.
I already am making movies and am quite successful in that field. Remember that the next time you're prematurely ejaculating on your girlfriend's thigh at the drive-in for some film you think is "cool", you incomprehensible know-nothing. I hope my picture will be in in your little film school book by the time you're in school, flipping you off and saying "Who's stupid now, douchebag ?". Unfortunately, schools tend to carry textbooks, so I'd be better off just sending you an autographed picture. Can you read cursive handwriting ? I want to be sure that you'll be able to understand my message jotted onto it.
CK

I'll tell your mom I'm sorry I ejaculated on her thigh again sorry....and as for you being successful BROVO my friend and when Im in school....a year from now I'll send some of my autographs of me fucking your mom saying "Hey remember that thread Love Jon." :)

[darthvonpokemon]

LOL I didn't ask about what he does in his personal life. He's the one who came in "flamming" (it's "flaming", Gore, BTW), so he should expect it right back. It's starting to sound like he just picked the wrong person on the wrong day to do it to. It serves him right.
CK

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
LOL I didn't ask about what he does in his personal life. He's the one who came in "flamming" (it's "flaming", Gore, BTW), so he should expect it right back. It's starting to sound like he just picked the wrong person on the wrong day to do it to. It serves him right.
CK

and BTW why are you always talking to Sam and not directly to me? Im sorry I misspelled flaming oopps but yeah i tried to say sorry guess it didnt work

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by groovyman
omg kil billl was soooo 1337 woord yo gangsta fo lifers

your a moron....please leave before we seriously flame you and you cry to mommy.....

[Sistinas]

Originally posted by groovyman
omg kil billl was soooo 1337 woord yo gangsta fo lifers





Yeah, your gunna last.:rolleyes:

[darthvonpokemon]

Gee, I wonder where I got the idea you had a third grade intellect from ? I guess I gave you more credit than you really deserve. You're more like a first grader. You can't read, you can't write, you can't defend yourself in any argument and now resort to "your mama" one-liners. I've got one for you: Your mom probably cries herself to sleep every night thinking that she gave birth to such an idiotic loser for a son that she can never be proud of since he can't read or have any success in life. It must truly break her heart that you were the filth she carried in her body for nine months. I should send her a condolence card. Too bad so many people judge her for your existance. She must have emotional scars like no psychiatrist has ever seen before. Poor woman. I'd say that I'd show her a little tender, loving care, but that would be resorting to your schoolyard bullshit.
Sam asked how I REALLY felt. I was answering him before I had to look down to speak directly to you, little man. As always, the little dogs have to go yipping around the big ones to be noticed. Since you are so much like many other people your age, trying to be a big mouth funny guy to hide your own insecurities, I'd likely let this drop. Do yourself a favor, forget film school and learn to read. I've already met plenty of know-it-all's who aren't fit to carry my camera gear and the last thing needed in the indie film world is another. Try to make your mom proud for once in your life.
CK

[GorePhobia]

thats what im thinkin lol

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
Gee, I wonder where I got the idea you had a third grade intellect from ? I guess I gave you more credit than you really deserve. You're more like a first grader. You can't read, you can't write, you can't defend yourself in any argument and now resort to "your mama" one-liners. I've got one for you: Your mom probably cries herself to sleep every night thinking that she gave birth to such an idiotic loser for a son that she can never be proud of since he can't read or have any success in life. It must truly break her heart that you were the filth she carried in her body for nine months. I should send her a condolence card. Too bad so many people judge her for your existance. She must have emotional scars like no psychiatrist has ever seen before. Poor woman. I'd say that I'd show her a little tender, loving care, but that would be resorting to your schoolyard bullshit.
Sam asked how I REALLY felt. I was answering him before I had to look down to speak directly to you, little man. As always, the little dogs have to go yipping around the big ones to be noticed. Since you are so much like many other people your age, trying to be a big mouth funny guy to hide your own insecurities, I'd likely let this drop. Do yourself a favor, forget film school and learn to read. I've already met plenty of know-it-all's who aren't fit to carry my camera gear and the last thing needed in the indie film world is another. Try to make your mom proud for once in your life.
CK


i should give you a standing ovation for that and an Acadamy award.....but ne way your not that topic at hand anymore groovyman is....so i will stop talking to you now

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by groovyman
COME ON FLAME FAG GANGSTA FO LIFERS YO!!!7537905380

I am just sitting here laughing at you!

[GorePhobia]

hey darth and you thought i was of 1st grade intellect

[GorePhobia]

he is someone i am hoping will make you look like an idiot

[groovyman]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
he is someone i am hoping will make you look like an idiot

omg teh dobl post yo fags

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by groovyman
omg teh dobl post yo fags

I LUV TEH DUBL POSTS YA FAG OMG YUR SUCH A FAG BOI YA N00B FO SHO GANGSTA LIFR

[darthvonpokemon]

so i will stop talking to you now
So not only are you stupid, pathetic, and loathesome, but a pussy as well ? Figures. Little shits like you are a dime a dozen. You hide behind your computer at home anonymously, make dumb comments and insult a few people as your own little revenge against the real world of people who despise you. It would be comical except for the fact it's probably all too true.
CK

[GorePhobia]

who said im hiding and why are you still talking dude there are bigger problems then me and you right now

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by groovyman
FUK IT SAD FAG MAN FO LIGFERS

OH AND BY THE WAY BYE BYE YOUR BEING BANNED :)

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by groovyman
FUCK YAL BICHS

no thanks your mom was good enough last night

[nine9]

Originally posted by groovyman
omg teh dobl post yo fags

First of all I know who you are fuckhead.......your days are numbered.............getting old already...just fucking get a life!

Second..........:( on this whole thread........I am sorry that it all turned into this......I respect all of you guys..........and Fluff is my little buddy...........no matter what she says I will always back her!


Sorry everyone..........just asked a simple question here! :rolleyes:

Oh also..........good inteligent points made by all I must say!

What a good debate is all about!

[GorePhobia]

its fine nine I apologized and its all good sorry babe :)

[darthvonpokemon]

I just wanted to post this little exchange via AIM:

HatredRunsThick: Hey dude I'm sorry about the forum I'm not usually like that.
HatredRunsThick: This is GorePhobia. I'm usually a nice guy but I over acted.
DarthVonPokemon: We all make bad decisions once in awhile. We all live with them
HatredRunsThick: Yeah I hear you. Just don't hate me over something so childish.
DarthVonPokemon: So admit you we're acting childish ?
HatredRunsThick: Yes I was acting childish, but I don't take back the fact that Sam was right that it was ment to be one whole film. You were right that it was released as two seperate DVD's though.
DarthVonPokemon: Good. Fuck off.

At this point I blocked him. Don't go on here talking shit to everyone and then think everything is cool, Gore. Damn, you really do have a lot of growing up to do.
CK

[GorePhobia]

very sad that I tried to be a nice guy and be the bigger man and apologize....Takes a small man to take the AIM exchange and show it to everyone. Your sad.

[fluffho]

Originally posted by nine9
and Fluff is my little buddy...........no matter what she says I will always back her!

the world is flat and i have proof!!

lol no for real. u dont need to kiss my ass miss nine. just so happens we tend to agree on a lot of things is all.... agree or disagree still buddies though! (so long as u dont go psycho nuts on me.. hehehe)

[GorePhobia]

I'm done talking in this thread see you later.

[darthvonpokemon]

Yes, a bigger man would always start a conversation by calling someone "stupid", then move on to "douchebag", start mouthing off about having sex with their mother and expect some kind of truce because they send an IM saying it's all a joke. Only one joke here, Gore. And it's you.
CK

[nine9]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
its fine nine I apologized and its all good sorry babe :)

Don't worry about it , hey I like all of you people.....just want to keep the peace here...............at least a little.........I love an argument as much as anyone! LOL! :D ;)

[GorePhobia]

yeah i tried to stop from listening to him but he keeps going when its over with

[nine9]

Originally posted by fluffho
the world is flat and i have proof!!

lol no for real. u dont need to kiss my ass miss nine. just so happens we tend to agree on a lot of things is all.... agree or disagree still buddies though! (so long as u dont go psycho nuts on me.. hehehe)

I don't kiss girl booty lol! :D :p


Just agree with you most of the time and if I don't....... you convince me why I should! LOL! You usually make a good point!

But.........I am psycho nuts.............you didn't know.........shhhhhhh! ;) :D

[darthvonpokemon]

I'm done talking in this thread see you later.[/
Don't let the door hit you on your ass on the way out while I'm banging your mom, you stupid douchebag :D I'm only joking with you, Gore LOL. Don't go away mad. Just go away.
CK

[kpropain]

Boy this thread went to shit real quick..:rolleyes:

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by kpropain
Boy this thread went to shit real quick..:rolleyes:

sure did kpro sure did.....

and my mom said thanks for last night darth

[fluffho]

Originally posted by nine9
But.........I am psycho nuts.............you didn't know.........shhhhhhh! ;) :D

you too?? the nuttiness is mutual :D

[nine9]

Originally posted by fluffho
you too?? the nuttiness is mutual :D

lol! Let's escape in our straight jackets!..........hahahaha! :eek:

[fluffho]

Originally posted by nine9
lol! Let's escape in our straight jackets!..........hahahaha! :eek:

we make these look goood.........

[newb]

Loved "Kill Bill" Vol1. I haven't yet watched the second one..or..er the second half that is...of the Kill Bill Movie series...not that its a series..ya know..the second half of Kill Bill...which would be part 2..or..Vol 2 of the first movie which is actually the first half of Kill Bill and not the first movie because its one movie...everybody knows that hehehe...that is two halfs....vol1 and vol 2 making one big fucking "KILL BILL"movie.

[nine9]

Originally posted by kpropain
Boy this thread went to shit real quick..:rolleyes:

YOU ARE SO RIGHT THERE! :rolleyes:

[darthvonpokemon]

Geez, I was only joking, Pro. I mean it was so funny when Gore was saying this all to me, right ? I think there is a difference between flaming someone and being an outright asshole. If he can't take it, he shouldn't be dishing it out.
CK

[GorePhobia]

Originally posted by darthvonpokemon
Geez, I was only joking, Pro. I mean it was so funny when Gore was saying this all to me, right ? I think there is a difference between flaming someone and being an outright asshole. If he can't take it, he shouldn't be dishing it out.
CK

i can take it man...i know it was just all a joke :)

[ShankS]

chill dudes :) peace...... every one should get on some of tha reeferage :)

[Vodstok]

In the future, could we keep the flame war to Pms and not tear up someone else's thread with it? That was fucking brutal. i stopped reading after a while.

Anywho, i never had a single iota of interest in either movie. QT outlived his welcome with me a loooong time ago. I like violence and witty dialogue as much as the next guy, but too much violence (for no reason in most cases) and pointless dialogue annoy me.

the opening scene to Resvoir Dogs irritated me to no end. What does Madonna have to do with ANYTHING? Nothing, but they got to use the word "pussy" a shitload of times...

Tarantino is another Jerry Bruckheimer. His movies are watchable and entertaining for the most part, but seem to lack lasting value of late.

Just my opinion. Im sure there is plenty that i like that Nine9 hates :D

[nine9]

Originally posted by Vodstok
In the future, could we keep the flame war to Pms and not tear up someone else's thread with it? That was fucking brutal. i stopped reading after a while.

Anywho, i never had a single iota of interest in either movie. QT outlived his welcome with me a loooong time ago. I like violence and witty dialogue as much as the next guy, but too much violence (for no reason in most cases) and pointless dialogue annoy me.

the opening scene to Resvoir Dogs irritated me to no end. What does Madonna have to do with ANYTHING? Nothing, but they got to use the word "pussy" a shitload of times...

Tarantino is another Jerry Bruckheimer. His movies are watchable and entertaining for the most part, but seem to lack lasting value of late.

Just my opinion. Im sure there is plenty that i like that Nine9 hates :D

Thanks Vod,


That is fine with me whatever you think......... I appreciate your opinion anyway! :D

;) :D

[Vodstok]

Not a problem :)

i try real hard not to get down on other people for liking/disliking certain directors.. Tarantino just isnt my style :)

[carnage]

I liked both movies...but then again I was a fan of Resvoir Dogs too...

And that new one, Hero, looks good...just so long as they speak english and is not another Crouching Tiger fiasco...

Subtitled movies make my head hurt..

[nine9]

Originally posted by carnage
I liked both movies...but then again I was a fan of Resvoir Dogs too...

And that new one, Hero, looks good...just so long as they speak english and is not another Crouching Tiger fiasco...

Subtitled movies make my head hurt..

I really liked R Dogs.........I think that one is my favorite.....Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors too. I want to see Hero, don't care if it is not in English I watch lots of movies with subtitles and I am used to it!

[zwoti]

Originally posted by nine9
I really liked R Dogs.........I think that one is my favorite.....Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors too. I want to see Hero, don't care if it is not in English I watch lots of movies with subtitles and I am used to it!

hero is a cracking film.....donnie yen vs jet li :D

[nine9]

Originally posted by zwoti
hero is a cracking film.....donnie yen vs jet li :D

You have seen it already?

[zwoti]

Originally posted by nine9
You have seen it already?


seen it and own the dvd...you gotta love region 3 :D

[nine9]

Originally posted by zwoti
seen it and own the dvd...you gotta love region 3 :D

Damn I am behind here! I thought is was just coming out! How can you have the CD?

[zwoti]

Originally posted by nine9
Damn I am behind here! I thought is was just coming out! How can you have the CD?

well it's might be just coming out over there but it's been out in the east for a couple of years.

and cd? cd? 2 disc special edition dvd i'll have you know :D

[nine9]

Originally posted by zwoti
well it's might be just coming out over there but it's been out in the east for a couple of years.

and cd? cd? 2 disc special edition dvd i'll have you know :D

Really? What a rip off for us! :mad:

I am so jealous..........:(

[bloodrayne]

Damn...I had to see what could possibly be so cool about this movie, as to make this thread so long, especially after I was told (by a very knowledgable source) that it was pretty much all action, and had no horror elements, whatsoever (which is why I have no interest in watching it)...BUT, as it turns out, the thread was hardly about the movie at all...Instead, it seems that it sorta got off track and ended up with about 5 pages of flaming...Hmmm...Who would have ever imagined that something like this would happen HERE?...At THIS forum:rolleyes: ....lol:)

[nine9]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Damn...I had to see what could possibly be so cool about this movie, as to make this thread so long, especially after I was told (by a very knowledgable source) that it was pretty much all action, and had no horror elements, whatsoever (which is why I have no interest in watching it)...BUT, as it turns out, the thread was hardly about the movie at all...Instead, it seems that it sorta got off track and ended up with about 5 pages of flaming...Hmmm...Who would have ever imagined that something like this would happen HERE?...At THIS forum:rolleyes: ....lol:)

Yes what a shock! :rolleyes:

Had to be MY thread too! LOL!

[zwoti]

Originally posted by nine9
Yes what a shock! :rolleyes:

Had to be MY thread too! LOL!

yeah, you troublemaker :D