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Stingy Jack
08-13-2004, 04:02 AM
Okay, I haven't been on that much lately due to school being back in full swing and the administration deciding to heap a shit-load of extra responsibilities on my ass ... But, I did manage to make a post not too long ago on Dr. Kelvenstein's "What the fuck is up with the political threads at HDC" thread (or whatever the fuck it was called.) It was a post that I was somewhat proud of, because it gave me the chance to say my point of view on the issue of why I like horror (a statement that I have never made since I started visiting this place ... and I thought I had exhausted all general horror topics for a while.)

Next thing I know, the good Doctor has made his announcement that he is going to leave the site because he has been attacked ever since he made the aforementioned thread.

And this isn't the first time this has happened with a member.

FOLKS! An internet forum is a place for conversation, and disagreements are the stuff of good conversation. To be honest, I would probably have left this site LONG ago had I discovered that everyone here was pretty much in agreement about everything and never voiced their true opinions out of fears of offending someone or making themselves look stupid. Imagine how boring this place would be, and how much each of us would feel like an insignificant part of a group instead of a unique, free-thinking individual, if we all just sat around saying: "You're right about that. I agree 100%." The threads would be two posts long, and nobody would learn anything about themselves, each other, or the topics they post about.

When someone disagrees with me, I enjoy it. I look at it as a chance to interact with someone I don't know on a personal, meaningful level as opposed to just surface "I'm with you!" bandwagoning. And I suppose this is why I am so active in the controversial threads (politics and religion). I crave this type of interaction. Not so I can try to show off and make anybody feel stupid, but because it gives me the chance to a) get to know people better, and b) reevaulate my own beliefs if they don't hold up in discussion.

Take bwind22 and wufong. I consider these two to be my nemeses, and wufong has certainly resorted to personal insults on occasion (see Vodstok's "Manhunt: The cause of 1000 Murders" thread (or whatever the fuck it was called.)) But I like both of these people, and I look forward to reading their replies to my opinions (no matter how insulting those replies may be). Sure, I may get frustrated and pissed off ... but that's expected in debate. I just don't take it personally and let it pass.

To make a long post short (too late): Don't post your opinion about anything if you're too damned sensitive to engage in an arguement. Because someone will disagree with you and let you know. Just sit around and agree with everyone ... and see how memorable a member you become.

newb
08-13-2004, 04:04 AM
HOW DARE YOU SAY THOSE AWFUL THINGS ABOUT ME......FUCK OFF STINGY...I HATE YOU.

Vodstok
08-13-2004, 04:11 AM
I completely agree!!!


No really, i do. No bandwagon... Ahh hell, never mind.


Hey, not all meaningfull conversations here are argumentative (not saying you said/implied that). And another thing i agree on is bwind22. I have never seen him get pissy or insulting, no matter how heated the debate.

Thesoundofdirt (wherever he went off too..) and i had a discussion over wether or not serial killers were crazy or just evil. i believe evil, he believed crazy, and no matter what they other said, we wouldnt agree. But the conversation stayed amicable (sp?) throughout.

So ease up, people. and remember when you start to get REAL pissed off:

bloodrayne
08-13-2004, 04:14 AM
LOL @ Newb

Stingy...I thought maybe you were going to make a list...I just wanted to see if I was a "Pissy" person:D

Actually...I would just like to jump on the old "I'm with you!" bandwagon, and say, "You're right about that. I agree 100%."...OOPS:eek: ...:p

Okay, all kidding aside...I truly do believe that this is the FIRST time that I have to agree with everything that you have said, and I couldn't have said it better myself:)

movieman64
08-13-2004, 06:40 AM
Only when Charlie (Manson) comes back to the Ranch, will we all truly be able to get along.

Vodstok
08-13-2004, 06:46 AM
LOL! Ahhh Charlie.......So misunderstood.....

massacre man
08-13-2004, 06:52 AM
i wanted to see a list


*pssst bloodrayne i bet R.Kelly is on the list*

Egekrusher
08-13-2004, 07:26 AM
I have a list:

Poop
Boobs
Boogers

massacre man
08-13-2004, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Egekrusher
I have a list:

Poop
Boobs
Boogers yay a list

newb
08-13-2004, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Egekrusher
I have a list:

Poop
Boobs
Boogers

Ege.......why poop before boobs?

massacre man
08-13-2004, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by newb
Ege.......why poop before boobs? it has less letters

newb
08-13-2004, 07:43 AM
OH........I see. It flows better.[ pun intended ]

Kind of a feng shui thing

Egekrusher
08-13-2004, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by newb
Ege.......why poop before boobs?

Bottom to top of the body. Poop, boobs, boogers.

orangestar
08-13-2004, 08:31 AM
back on topic.....


I am actually a member of a forum where everyone agrees with everyone, and I miss the arguments. :( Thank God/Allah/whoever-the-fuck-else for HDC.

bwind22
08-13-2004, 08:37 AM
Wait a minute... I'm your nemesis? I thought you were on my side Stingy. I know you felt kind of insulted by something I said on the abortion thread, but I apologized and explained that it wasn't directed at you specifically. I thought we were cool, man.... Remember how we both wipe our rears in the same manner? I thought that meant something to you... ;)

Anyways, I agree 100% with what you are saying so somebody save me a seat on the bandwagon.

Vodstok
08-13-2004, 08:40 AM
Here you go, right next to me. Careful, the seat has a loose spring that will probably poke you in the ass...:)

Stingy Jack
08-13-2004, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by bwind22
Wait a minute... I'm your nemesis? I thought you were on my side Stingy. I know you felt kind of insulted by something I said on the abortion thread, but I apologized and explained that it wasn't directed at you specifically. I thought we were cool, man.... Remember how we both wipe our rears in the same manner? I thought that meant something to you... ;)

Anyways, I agree 100% with what you are saying so somebody save me a seat on the bandwagon.

No, no, no. When I say that you're my nemesis, I mean that you and I will usually present opposing views on a topic (choose one). Hence, we are usually locked in a debate with each other. This in no way means that I hate you and am out to kill you, though. :D

moonsorrow
08-13-2004, 10:07 AM
how far do we realy have to take this? debating a debate?
how shitty is this? i mean jesus fucking christ not all our posts are intelligent, im pretty sure you have one or two fucked posts yourself just like the rest of us, i have more then my share...though those were mostley drunken ramblings...ay...
thats about all i got to say on the matter.

fluffho
08-13-2004, 10:20 AM
am i ur nemesis stingy? actually i think im pretty sure ive agreed with you on most things, but than again i could be wrong

normally though i dont have seroius discussion, i just say something really random..

bwind22
08-13-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
No, no, no. When I say that you're my nemesis, I mean that you and I will usually present opposing views on a topic (choose one). Hence, we are usually locked in a debate with each other. This in no way means that I hate you and am out to kill you, though. :D

I can dig it! :D

orangestar
08-13-2004, 11:17 AM
I can only think of one or two things that Stingy and I disagree on. but with some other people its a whole different story. I just hate it when people make baseless personal attacks on an internet forum.

Vodstok
08-13-2004, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by orangestar
I can only think of one or two things that Stingy and I disagree on. but with some other people its a whole different story. I just hate it when people make baseless personal attacks on an internet forum.

Oh yeah!? well, shut up you little bitch! you dontknow anything!


Just kidding. We love you orange. You and your pizza :)

Haunted
08-13-2004, 01:03 PM
Well said, Stingy. Personally, as I've said before, I don't argue with people here. If a conversation is about to turn into a war, I step out. I don't generally want to argue with people in a nonpersonal setting. In public/personal situation, I'm a little more abbrasive and confrontational, because I do stand up for myself.

It's like the picture of the retarded kid picture....

Stingy Jack
08-13-2004, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by moonsorrow
how far do we realy have to take this? debating a debate?
how shitty is this? i mean jesus fucking christ not all our posts are intelligent, im pretty sure you have one or two fucked posts yourself just like the rest of us, i have more then my share...though those were mostley drunken ramblings...ay...
thats about all i got to say on the matter.

I don't know what the fuck you're referring to. You make it sound as if I'm bitching about untillegent posts or some shit. I never did that. Just want people to know that arguements can be a good thing just in case anybody else is considering running like a bitch over hurt feelings.

And yes, I've made several fucked posts myself. But that's part of the fun! :D

Stingy Jack
08-13-2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Haunted
Well said, Stingy. Personally, as I've said before, I don't argue with people here. If a conversation is about to turn into a war, I step out. I don't generally want to argue with people in a nonpersonal setting. In public/personal situation, I'm a little more abbrasive and confrontational, because I do stand up for myself.

It's like the picture of the retarded kid picture....

I'm almost the exact opposite. I'm more aggressive and abrasive here than I am in real life ... and I suppose that's just through conditioning. When you've been physically assaulted during a debate, you tend to tone it down a little. However, here nobody can touch me! :D

Stingy Jack
08-13-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by fluffho
am i ur nemesis stingy? actually i think im pretty sure ive agreed with you on most things, but than again i could be wrong

normally though i dont have seroius discussion, i just say something really random..

No, you are not a nemesis o' mine ... even though you have threatened to kill me several times. :D

Egekrusher
08-13-2004, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
I'm almost the exact opposite. I'm more aggressive and abrasive here than I am in real life ... and I suppose that's just through conditioning. When you've been physically assaulted during a debate, you tend to tone it down a little. However, here nobody can touch me! :D

Same here. I can be.. well, let's just say that if you said "boo" to me in real life I'd run away. I'm a chickenshit for the most part, due to the fact that if I DID get into a fight, I'd probably kill someone. When I get truly angry, I turn into something not quite human.

fluffho
08-13-2004, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
No, you are not a nemesis o' mine ... even though you have threatened to kill me several times. :D

oh stingy... dont take it so personally. you know i picked you at random, it was the principal of the whole thing remember (censorship and such)

die stingy... die

Stingy Jack
08-13-2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Egekrusher
Same here. I can be.. well, let's just say that if you said "boo" to me in real life I'd run away. I'm a chickenshit for the most part, due to the fact that if I DID get into a fight, I'd probably kill someone. When I get truly angry, I turn into something not quite human.

I'm not really chicken, nor am I The Hulk. Just a pacifist, I suppose. Don't like fighting. And I've learned that I can drive someone to hit me rather easily ... so I have to watch it. 'Cause then, you know, you have to hit back so the folks standing around won't think you're a pussy, and that just leads to more received and returned blows. It gets messy ... and it hurts like hell. Plus, it's so frickin' barbaric. And I have a big nose too, which could easily get broken. Then I would look funny... (er ... funnier. Sorry.)

Stingy Jack
08-13-2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by fluffho

die stingy... die

Eh? I didn't quite hear ya. What's that you said?

juanhacko
08-13-2004, 02:37 PM
Stingy Jack.

I agree 100% with everything you said in your original post.

That doesn't mean that I will always agree with everything you say.

Keepup the good work.