View Full Version : Dog Soldiers...NOT a horror film..cheap slasher
TrueFan
08-04-2004, 03:23 PM
Remember, lesson 1...difference between horror and slasher.
zwoti
08-04-2004, 03:26 PM
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kpropain
08-04-2004, 03:31 PM
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kpropain
08-04-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by MD2
OUT-FUCKING-STANDING!!!!!
Hey True Fan, get a clue will ya?
Nobody gives a fuck what you think!!!!!!!
Participate, dont walk your "I know it all!" ass in this house and start with the lessons.
Damn right cause you will get slapped down like a two dollar hooker in the street...
jay o2 waster
08-04-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by TrueFan
what am I to do? Bend over and brace your self
kpropain
08-04-2004, 03:36 PM
Also don't forget....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/kpropain/FLAME%20PICS/SHITTY_THREAD_DOG.jpg
jay o2 waster
08-04-2004, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by kpropain
Damn right cause you will get slapped down like a two dollar hooker in the street... yeah but a two dollar hooker would at least have the decency to gain 500 posts before trying to tell us what is what, and also she would suck my dick while doing it
TrueFan
08-04-2004, 03:37 PM
I see I am in the midst of true grit and wit here! "Fuck off" and "get lost" well said. Why try being, "all fucking adult and stuff" (sorry, gotta speak the native tounge i guess) and see what i am saying.....I guess ignorance really IS bliss
kpropain
08-04-2004, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by TrueFan
I see I am in the midst of true grit and wit here! "Fuck off" and "get lost" well said. Why try being, "all fucking adult and stuff" (sorry, gotta speak the native tounge i guess) and see what i am saying.....I guess ignorance really IS bliss
And this is coming from the "all knowing" n00b with 9 post..
Congrats chief you deserve a fucking oscar...;)
jay o2 waster
08-04-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by TrueFan
I see I am in the midst of true grit and wit here! "Fuck off" and "get lost" well said. Why try being, "all fucking adult and stuff" (sorry, gotta speak the native tounge i guess) and see what i am saying.....I guess ignorance really IS bliss not one person on this thread even said "fuck off" or "Get lost" to you, so just so you don't feal like a complete moron I will do u a favor FUCK OFF, GET LOST
Living/Dead
08-04-2004, 04:04 PM
The least you could do is explain why you think Dog Soldiers is a slasher and not a horror movie as you say. Or is that above you?
TrueFan
08-04-2004, 04:07 PM
Good stuff, let's chat it up. First, slasher is just as it decribes. Not much story line, mainly over the top gore which just visually shocks rather than get in you head. Horror, it much different. A great horror film can be made with not a drop of blood. Acutally the best ones are.
zwoti
08-04-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by TrueFan
Good stuff, let's chat it up. First, slasher is just as it decribes. Not much story line, mainly over the top gore which just visually shocks rather than get in you head. Horror, it much different. A great horror film can be made with not a drop of blood. Acutally the best ones are.
Slasher film
The slasher film is a sub-genre of the horror film, also referred to as a splatter film. Typically, a masked, psychotic person stalks and graphically kills teenagers who are away from adult supervision.
The two prototypical examples of the genre were John Carpenter's Halloween (1978) and Sean Cunningham's Friday the 13th (1980), both of which spawned numerous sequels and even more imitators. (Although Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) could be seen as the true origin of the form.) Wes Craven's A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) also generated an enduring series. The simple plots, minimal special effects and potent combination of sex and violence made it an easy choice for low-budget filmmaking in the 1980s.
Carol J. Clover, in her book Men, Women and Chain Saws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film, identified what she called the Final Girl trope, the heroic young woman who ultimately survives and defeats the Killer (at least until the sequel). The Final Girl almost invariably has an androgynous name (e.g. Teddy, Billie, Georgie, Sydney) and does not partake of the sex and drugs the other teenagers do. Often, she has shared history with the Killer.
The slasher genre broke into the mainstream in the 1990s, being extensively parodied in Wes Craven's Scream trilogy and Keenen Ivory Wayans' Scary Movie series, but with also many "straight" imitators.
Living/Dead
08-04-2004, 04:12 PM
TrueFan
Good stuff, let's chat it up. First, slasher is just as it decribes. Not much story line, mainly over the top gore which just visually shocks rather than get in you head. Horror, it much different. A great horror film can be made with not a drop of blood. Acutally the best ones are.
IMO this is what your basically saying.
Horror = Good Horror Movie
Slasher = Bad Horror Movie
Slasher is a sub-genre of horror, they are not two seperate categories.
zwoti
08-04-2004, 04:17 PM
Horror film
A horror film is a film dominated by elements of horror. This film genre incorporates a number of sub-genres and repeated themes, such as slasher themes, vampire themes, zombie themes, demonic possession and Satanism, alien mind control, evil children, cannibalism, werewolves, animals attacking humans, haunted houses, etc. The horror film genre is often associated with low budgets and exploitation, but major studios and well-respected directors have made intermittent forays into the genre. Some horror films exhibit a substantial amount of cross-over with other genres, particularly science fiction.
Certain stories and themes have proven popular and have inspired many sequels, remakes, and copycats. See Frankenstein, The Creature from the Black Lagoon, Dracula, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, werewolves, and zombies.
wufong
08-04-2004, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Living/Dead
The least you could do is explain why you think Dog Soldiers is a slasher and not a horror movie as you say. Or is that above you?
because it wasn't scary?
Living/Dead
08-04-2004, 04:38 PM
Living/Dead
The least you could do is explain why you think Dog Soldiers is a slasher and not a horror movie as you say. Or is that above you?
wufong
because it wasn't scary?
So you have to be scared of watching a movie for it to be considered horror?
wufong
08-04-2004, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Living/Dead
Living/Dead
wufong
So you have to be scared of watching a movie for it to be considered horror?
pretty much yes. not saying it was a bad movie or anything. i liked it. but for a true horror ( for me) is one where it freaks/ makes me jump etc. dogs soldiers didnt do it to me. but like isaid it was a good movie.
Vampenguin
08-04-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by wufong
pretty much yes. not saying it was a bad movie or anything. i liked it. but for a true horror ( for me) is one where it freaks/ makes me jump etc. dogs soldiers didnt do it to me. but like isaid it was a good movie.
If that was the case, Id have seen 3 horror movies in my life!
mixojoe
08-05-2004, 03:56 AM
horror/comedy yes with an unoriginal plot lol and poor effects
Vodstok
08-05-2004, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Living/Dead
The least you could do is explain why you think Dog Soldiers is a slasher and not a horror movie as you say. Or is that above you?
Exactly.
ShankS
08-05-2004, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by mixojoe
with an unoriginal plot lol and poor effects
dissagree with that part.
zwoti
08-05-2004, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by ShankS
dissagree with that part.
disagree with that spelling :D
ShankS
08-05-2004, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
disagree with that spelling :D
oh stfu
:D:D :)
zwoti
08-05-2004, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by ShankS
oh stfu
:D:D :)
:D :D :D :D
dantehorrorfan
08-07-2004, 01:17 PM
horror is horror its not any different and i have seen no horror movies that have scared me so basiclly there are no horror movies that scare me so byebye
mixojoe
08-08-2004, 03:10 AM
It just did not achieve anything new or compelling.
zwoti
08-08-2004, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by mixojoe
It just did not achieve anything new or compelling.
that sounds like virtually every horror film coming out of hollywood to me.
Vodstok
08-09-2004, 05:05 AM
These days "Original, new or compelling" is virtually impossible.
I have descibed Dog Soldiers to people as "Aliens with werewolves, set in Scotland". That is basically it. it is simple, and because of it, it is beautiful.
The fact that someone decided to take an ancient "horror" like werewolves and modernise them in this way IS original, the same way Reign Of Fire turned the old Dragon legends into a modern threat. Now, i can see people turning this pseudo-genre into a shit-museum the way they did with "giant killer animals" with Anaconda, curse of the komodo, python, etc..
but it is still new enough to be somewhat "original"
Plus, i LOVE listening to foul-mouthed brits and scots going off. They invented the language, so they use it ina way most of us americans couldnt dream....
"I would rather slog it out with these 'grunts' than take orders from a toffee nosed twat like you, Ryan.." Classic line :)
Preacher
08-17-2004, 05:14 AM
Few things......
1) Dog Soldiers is a fuckin good movie
2) Werewolves usually means a horror movie
3) You can mix genres for example Dog soldiers is definately a comedy horror.
But more imprtantly........
4) The most annoying thing Americans do is confuse the words English and British.
BRITAIN IS NOT A COUNTRY - it is made up of a number of different countries. Please learn the difference.
Scottish people ARE ALSO BRITISH
I'm sure some americans/canadians would be offended if people assumed they were from canada/america.
Rant over......bye.
P x
Vodstok
08-17-2004, 05:57 AM
Most americans grow up in a shell. all most know about the rest of the world is from movies and tv, neither of which are particularly reliable. Never hurts to correct us :)
I actually lived in europe for 9 years, and no one ever bothered to explain that difference to me.
I always thought it was more horror/action. the comedy was just the result of good writing, rather than it actually being a "comedy"
ABnormaL
08-17-2004, 04:57 PM
I loved Dog Soliders! I thought the characters and dialogue were brilliant and the special effects stood up well in my opinion.
massacre man
08-17-2004, 05:58 PM
i liked the dog
Sick_As_Fuck
08-18-2004, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Vampenguin
If that was the case, Id have seen 3 horror movies in my life!
Exactly.
massacre man
08-18-2004, 07:40 PM
the dog was awesome!
KRUGERKID13
08-18-2004, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by ABnormaL
I loved Dog Soliders! I thought the characters and dialogue were brilliant and the special effects stood up well in my opinion.
its an amzing movie
nightbreed
09-04-2004, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Preacher
4) The most annoying thing Americans do is confuse the words English and British.
BRITAIN IS NOT A COUNTRY - it is made up of a number of different countries. Please learn the difference.
Scottish people ARE ALSO BRITISH
P x
hey preach i need a lil clarification please. what is the difference between britain and whales? is whales a geographic location or is it a term used for all of britain?
Whales are mammals.:D
My PERSONAL (not imposing on anyone) definition of a slasher is a film with a single protagonist (generally a fella with a weapon/tool of some kind :o ) and little or no nods to the supernatural (aside from resilience to injury).
Vodstok
09-10-2004, 09:14 AM
Two of the 3 biggest slashers are supernatural:
Jason Voorhees
Freddy Kreuger
That aside, Dog Soldiers could not be farther from slasher...
massacre man
09-10-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Two of the 3 biggest slashers are supernatural:
Jason Voorhees
Freddy Kreuger
That aside, Dog Soldiers could not be farther from slasher... whoooooo michael myers is different
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I'd put Jason and Michael Myers in the slasher bit (using my own criteria) in that 'resilience to injury' can include coming back from the dead, it's a very flexible categorising system in my house :D
Mr Krueger however has extending arms, kids screaming faces in his chest and appears in dreams.
I find the whole idea of a large strong man, albeit seemingly lumbering and slow - but able to catch up with you nonetheless (MM, JV) quite unnerving.
Should keep those knitting needles out whenever I babysit, eh?
The_Return
08-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Not one of the best Truefan threads, but still proves what a dolt he is:)
slasherman
08-23-2005, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by TrueFan
Remember, lesson 1...difference between horror and slasher.
hey this is just wrong......slasher is an sub-genre under the genre horror...
bloodrayne
08-23-2005, 06:36 AM
Let's just call it a 'werewolf movie' and say that it kicks ASS!
Seriously...I'm not really all that crazy about werewolf movies, in general...But, Damn I love Dog Soldiers:cool:
Killer Clown#1
08-23-2005, 07:38 AM
I agree
:)
hellfire1
08-23-2005, 09:36 AM
dayum.... look who's back !
filmmaker2
08-24-2005, 11:01 AM
I think Dog Soldiers is a big poop festival. The biggest poop festival ever made!
Wait, I have not seen this film. I was confusing it with FROG SOLDIERS, that is something totally different.
I must now see Dog Soldiers so I can then comment.
Darkling
08-27-2005, 02:58 PM
Who gives a shit what it is - It's a good film, you don't need to know the difference between horror and slasher movies to know whether they are good or not - I'm just wondering what point TrueFan was trying to make with this thread :confused:
zwoti
08-27-2005, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Darkling
I'm just wondering what point TrueFan was trying to make with this thread :confused:
that he was an idiot
kpropain
08-28-2005, 02:48 PM
LMFAO, it's funny to see this thread come back up...
Dog Soldiers is a kick ass film btw...
Kreech
08-28-2005, 06:33 PM
I'm just amazed at what a pro-Dog Soldiers battalion exists on this board. About three years ago when i first saw the film i couldn't find anyone who'd even heard of it, and now people are being banned over comments related to the movie. (well, really they were banned for other reasons as well) It's kind of creepy, and good that this film is becoming a cult classic (and i do believe it is).
Vodstok
08-29-2005, 03:31 AM
It would have been an overt classic like aliens had it actually recieved a release in America
Zombee
08-29-2005, 07:32 AM
Dog soldiers was a solid movie .. I enjoyed it a lot. A buddy of mine showed up at my house one night with Dog Soldiers, Ginger Snaps and Boondock Saints (I had not seen any of these yet). Needless to say this was one of the better evenings in my life. I own all three now. I personally would not call Dog Soldiers a slasher film.. more of a creature feature.