True Horror in this world....

[Vodstok]

Okay, I just finished readin the two "Manhunt Murder" threads in the true crime forum, and i have concluded that the most frightening thing in this world is humankind's lack of responsibility over the past couple of decades.

We are no longer responsible fo rour own actions apparently. Why does everyone think the government has been trying so hard to control everything? There are MASSES of dumb bastards in the bible belt BEGGING the government to control what we see and hear so that they dont have to worry about seeing anything "offensive", or better still, ahev to explain to their 12 year old what a "tit" is because they overheard it somewhere.

It has grown beyond the days when they tried to ban elvis because he moved his ass. Now, because we have kids with fuses so short they snap and kill other kids because of frustration, ignorance and hate, supposedly the media is to blame?

What about 50 years ago when the KKK was killing people because they were nice to a black person, or a Jew? What was that blamed on? Did bugs bunny influence them to commit acts of violence? NO!

Did Al-Queda watch too many slasher flicks as kids? NO!

Did HITLER have access to Doom and Quake?!?!?

I could go on.

Now, what if someone blew up an abortion clinic and they found a copy of "Postal" in his apartment? Would they blame the game?

I suppose i should shut my trap... One of you may go commit a crime because I talked about lack of responsibility.....:rolleyes:

[Egekrusher]

It sickens me as well. I can't believe the number of stupid people out there blaming their problems on other people. It's especially bad when they blame their problems on a faceless mass, such as "the media", because all they are really trying to do is make themselves feel better, as if they are justified in standing by and doing nothing.

BAAAHHHH!!!!

[Stingy Jack]

I'd be willing to wager that if you search the house of someone (almost anyone) who commits a violent crime, you'd probably find a copy of The Bible. But, nobody seems to want to ever blame "the book", even though many hate crimes are committed as a result of what is taught in this book. Of course, if it's The Bible, then there's something wrong with the person. If it's anything else, like a game, then there's something wrong with the game (or movie, or music, etc.)

[Haunted]

Remember when they blamed Marylin Manson for Columbine? Marylin Manson??? Are you serious?? It's like blaming a Mystique actor. The kicker is that they also blamed...get ready...Monty Python, because the kids liked Monty Python. Monty Python:rolleyes: And I'm the Pope's ho.

Further more...I'm not given to conspiracy theories, but my dad did work for the CIA. He's said time and again that its the FBI that you have to watch out for.

[massacre man]

Originally posted by Vodstok
\ahev to explain to their 12 year old what a "tit" is because they overheard it somewhere.
hahaha

[Vampenguin]

I think Marylin Manson said it best, in Bowling for Columbine:

Marilyn Manson: The two by-products of that whole tragedy were, violence in entertainment, and gun control. And how perfect that that was the two things that we were going to talk about with the upcoming election. And also, then we forgot about Monica Lewinsky and we forgot about, uh, the President was shooting bombs overseas, yet I'm a bad guy because I, well I sing some rock-and-roll songs, and who's a bigger influence, the President or Marilyn Manson? I'd like to think me, but I'm going to go with the President.

Michael Moore: Do you know that on the day of the Columbine massacre, the US dropped more bombs on Kosovo than any other day?

Marilyn Manson: I do know that, and I think that's really ironic, that nobody said 'well maybe the President had an influence on this violent behavior' Because that's not the way the media wants to take it and spin it, and turn it into fear, because then you're watching television, you're watching the news, you're being pumped full of fear, there's floods, there's AIDS, there's murder, cut to commercial, buy the Acura, buy the Colgate, if you have bad breath they're not going to talk to you, if you have pimples, the girl's not going to fuck you, and it's just this campaign of fear, and consumption, and that's what I think it's all based on, the whole idea of 'keep everyone afraid, and they'll consume.'

[Chainsaw Guy]

True horror is................................................ ...................barbera strisand

[Tubalcain]

i can honestly say i understand why people want to blame tv, music, and video games for all the bad stuff their kids do. and dont freak out, im not saying i agree. people want to blame it on these things because we as a society have allowed these things to become the baby-sitters of america. how can you expect kids to behave if you never teach them how. Vodstok asked earlier if al-queda watched too many slasher films as kids. hell no. they did exactly what they were trained to do. if you train your kids to be killers, thats what they will do. If you expect your kids to create their own morale standards, then you deserve whatever they come up with.

[g star]

it's all about parents. i saw return of the living dead when i was 7 years old and have been addicted to horror movies ever since. but i came from a loving, nuturing household and i have never been in so much as a fist fight all my life. repeat: it's all about the parents.

[wufong]

Originally posted by Stingy Jack
I'd be willing to wager that if you search the house of someone (almost anyone) who commits a violent crime, you'd probably find a copy of The Bible. But, nobody seems to want to ever blame "the book", even though many hate crimes are committed as a result of what is taught in this book. Of course, if it's The Bible, then there's something wrong with the person. If it's anything else, like a game, then there's something wrong with the game (or movie, or music, etc.) O ffs so you're so ignorant. your stupidity at blaming the bible for murders, rapes etc has left me speechless man you have some serious mental problems that you need to get checked out real quickly. you're so obsessed about blaming everything on christians, the bible etc it is making you sound excatly like one of those radical christians you are bad mouthing.
but hey maybe you're right. i bet there wouldn't be no wars murders or rapes if we get rid of god? (that was sarcasim in case your ignorant arse didn't get it)

[Vodstok]

He didnt blame the bible, he asked why the bible isnt blamed like the other "sources of violence".

And many, if not most, hate crimes are done claiming that they are doing gods will. Skin heads say that god says that blacks and jews are inferior and need to be segregated or done away with. Gay bashers say god hates queers.

Make sure you actually read a post before retaliating against it, and then call others ignorant.

I watched a show recently on polygamy, and there were men raping their daughters, claiming god said it was their right. now, i dont think this is ANY different from blaming games or movies, it is just an attempt to shift blame.

[Stingy Jack]

Originally posted by Vodstok
He didnt blame the bible, he asked why the bible isnt blamed like the other "sources of violence".

And many, if not most, hate crimes are done claiming that they are doing gods will. Skin heads say that god says that blacks and jews are inferior and need to be segregated or done away with. Gay bashers say god hates queers.

Make sure you actually read a post before retaliating against it, and then call others ignorant.

I watched a show recently on polygamy, and there were men raping their daughters, claiming god said it was their right. now, i dont think this is ANY different from blaming games or movies, it is just an attempt to shift blame.

Thanks Vod. Couldn't have said it better myself. I certainly don't blame the Bible for violent crimes. Anyone who commits a crime has only him or her self to blame. My point, as Vod stated, is that people will take a crime as an opportunity to ban what they do not like (such a video games, music, movies, TV shows, etc.) rather than putting full responsibility on the individual who committed the crime ... unless the person who committed the crime backs up his actions from Bible teachings. And it is only Bible teachings that get this treatment. When terrorists struck the WTC, people were condemning Islam ... not the terrorists ... because Islam is in competition with Christianity. If the terrorists were Christian, nobody would be attacking the religion. Only the terrorists. Kind of a strange set of standards going on there. I would never blame a religion, or an idea, or a book, for causing violence. Never. I say people who commit crimes should be held completely responsible.

[wufong]

start qoute "I'd be willing to wager that if you search the house of someone (almost anyone) who commits a violent crime, you'd probably find a copy of The Bible. But, nobody seems to want to ever blame "the book", even though many hate crimes are committed as a result of what is taught in this book" end qoute.
that isn't blaming the bible? yeah right. get real will ya and pull ya head out of ya ignorant asses.
P.S the only reason islam is getting a lot of shit lately isn't just because the terrorist were muslim. but their organization says thats its a holy war thats its islam fighting agaisnt the west. not christianity. rarely if ever will you hear bin laden say a word about christianity. and of course only a fool would say that all muslim are bad or what ever. but! when the terrorist say that they are fighting a "ji had" and it's islam v's whom ever then ya islam is gonna get a lot of shit dumped on it rightfully or wrongfuly. i say wrongfully imho.