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allmykids
06-20-2004, 05:17 AM
like thinking we all worship saten, or like we really want to kill people. has anybody had people thinking there a little nuts for likeing horror movies so much???

XKillerX
06-20-2004, 05:51 AM
No.

movieman64
06-20-2004, 06:39 AM
I remember back in the late 70's early 80's when the "slasher" films gained a lot of attention. Thoughs of us who went to see them did get some raised eyebrows. Some of the theatres in my area would only show them after 9:00 pm or as a Midnight movie, which was fine with me. Although There might have been some marketing reasons for that.

thEsounDofdirT
06-20-2004, 08:29 AM
showing those movies after 9 may have been a good strategy to keep young children out of them... also, i always love to see a good horror movie at night... rather than during the day.. it seems like a theatre is more alive when it's a nighttime ONLY showing...

also, it seems now days that when you watch a lot of horror, people worry that you're depressed...

massacre man
06-20-2004, 08:37 AM
iv been watching horror movies for like 12 years (13 now) and im fine


must kill,must kill

ShankS
06-20-2004, 10:38 AM
na not realy, the only nut that comes here is the nazi scumbag that preaches crap about us being nuts......wtf he should take a look in the mirror.

jay o2 waster
06-20-2004, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by allmykids
like thinking we all worship saten, or like we really want to kill people. has anybody had people thinking there a little nuts for likeing horror movies so much??? My Mom thinks im fucked up, cause i watch dead alive like 2 or 3 times a week

ShankS
06-20-2004, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by jay o2 waster
My Mom thinks im fucked up, cause i watch dead alive like 2 or 3 times a week


you must know that film word for word by now :)


lol you should tell your mum she's fucked up cos she cleans the house 2 or 3 times a week maybe more ( thats if she does clean ;) )

nine9
06-20-2004, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by allmykids
like thinking we all worship saten, or like we really want to kill people. has anybody had people thinking there a little nuts for likeing horror movies so much???

YES TOTALLY!

That is why I am so glad I found you guys.........mention a horror to most people and the look at you like you are sick or something!

Have never really had anyone to talk to about them other than my husband, and we see the same movies!

I think horror fans are open minded, and seem to have a good moral base, without leaning on right wing religious beliefs!:)

Hate_Breeder
06-20-2004, 05:39 PM
Cause we're all crazy!!!!!

Vampenguin
06-20-2004, 05:51 PM
All my friends love horror, so I really dont care if people think thats strange. Itz not like we model ourselves after the characters we see.

HappyCamper
06-20-2004, 06:03 PM
I read the bible occasionally, and I see nothing wrong with watching a good slasher film or horror films in general....I see them as an enjoyable form of entertainment. It's not like watching TCM is going to make me pickup a chainsaw and go running after attractive scared females

HappyCamper
06-20-2004, 06:04 PM
although I'd like to run after attractive scared females (minus the chainsaw of course)

newb
06-20-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by jay o2 waster
My Mom thinks im fucked up, cause i watch dead alive like 2 or 3 times a week

Your mom may be onto something?

jk...its a great movie.

Maybe you should ask your mom to watch it with you. Have her make some custard first.:)

orangestar
06-20-2004, 06:46 PM
My family thinks Im really weird because I watch them so obsessively.

but hey, I think they're weird because they hate gory movies.

kpropain
06-20-2004, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by jay o2 waster
My Mom thinks im fucked up, cause i watch dead alive like 2 or 3 times a week

I watch that quite often myself....

I kick ass for the lord !!!!!! LOL

Hate_Breeder
06-20-2004, 07:06 PM
My mom thinks im fucked up because i find the Ted Bundy movie funny at times lol

thEsounDofdirT
06-20-2004, 08:02 PM
i had my mom watch dead alive with me... she thought it had some really funny parts.. lol

oh... the first time i saw evil dead.. i rented it... and we watched it together... she was like... geez this movie is horrible.. and i fell in love with it.. :)

of course i took that movie very seriously the first time i watched it... makes you see it in a different light...

oooooohhhhhh.. and some day.. i want to marry a woman... that i can hide from.. and stalk.. in dark clothes...

Rebel Yell
06-20-2004, 09:28 PM
I get a lot of shit for liking horror movies as much as I do. It doens't bother me. It actually makes me laugh quite a bit.

thEsounDofdirT
06-20-2004, 09:34 PM
yea.. it doesn't bother me in the least.. people that don't like it are ignorant and are missing out.. they need to be more open minded

thEsounDofdirT
06-21-2004, 09:18 AM
oh?... and just how many people have you killed Freddy...

so much of a bad boy act :)

bloodrayne
06-21-2004, 10:22 AM
I don't care what anyone says about me..So, it doesn't bother me at all

movieman64
06-21-2004, 11:04 AM
I catch a lot of stuff for being such a fan of horror movies, just because I'm 40! I'm supposed to be that responsible Dad who doesn't watch those types of films. Oh well to bad.

kpropain
06-21-2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
I don't care what anyone says about me..So, it doesn't bother me at all

Ditto

Arioch
06-21-2004, 11:12 AM
I dont ever talk to anyone who could condemn me for liking one thing or another.....im alone often...

Vodstok
06-21-2004, 11:13 AM
I condemn you for being alone, Arioch. :D

thEsounDofdirT
06-21-2004, 04:21 PM
being alone is ok ... but being around people is really cool too... just gotta find the right people, which is sometimes difficult

nine9
06-21-2004, 04:39 PM
Thing I find about liking or LOVING horror flics is that a lot of people don't share your interest, so it is frustrating when you have just seen an amazing movie and want to share it. It seems most people are really into comedy. I like some comedy too, but most of what has been put out there is just steamy shit!

Romantic comedies are the WORST!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am around a lot of people through work but on my off time, I LOVE being alone! Also comes from having my husband at home 24/7 in the winter! Hard not to want to kill anyone you see that much LOL!
;)

ShankS
06-21-2004, 04:45 PM
I dont know many people into horror, but then that dont bother me, means I dont have to lend em my DVD's and wait ages for them to be returned. lol

A couple of firiends though, have told me about a few good films that I'd probably not know about yet.

massacre man
06-21-2004, 05:07 PM
my mom says horror is all i talk about and im always like i talk about simpsons

lol


alot of my realatives and friends are into horror except they like the newer stuff and hate halloween

thEsounDofdirT
06-21-2004, 10:17 PM
yea.. people are always disrespecting others.. and i hate them... but it does seem like the world is getting back some cool people.. but the mean people are getting meaner

Miss Britt
06-21-2004, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
yea.. people are always disrespecting others.. and i hate them... but it does seem like the world is getting back some cool people.. but the mean people are getting meaner

And it seems like the nicer you are to the mean ones the meaner they get...

Arioch
06-21-2004, 10:33 PM
And it seems like the nicer you are to the mean ones the meaner they get...

Ya i was like that for a while....you can only turn the cheek so many times....

crytel
06-22-2004, 02:21 PM
they just think i need a life or i should spend my money on other things besides horror films...:rolleyes:

thEsounDofdirT
06-22-2004, 02:25 PM
ehh.. if people are dicks and crabby.. it just means they're miserable.. so fuck em...

Stingy Jack
06-22-2004, 02:43 PM
When I first began college, I was strong into horror. A HUGE portion of my library was loaded with cheap horror paperbacks, and Stephen King hardcovers. Because I majored in English, I found myself often in the company of artistic snobs. This wasn't an entirely awful experience: it helped me to develop my own objective opinions as to what constitutes a literary work as opposed to something written simply to entertain the masses. However, it did cause me to suppress my love of horror for a time while I devoured (and developed a deep love for) the literary genre. I also stopped watching horror movies on such a frequent basis, limiting my time to those movies that were deemed "important" or "influential". The artistic films. I'm not too ashamed I did this, either. My experiences with Art (capital "A") in the realm of literature and film have deepened my understanding of the human condition, and played a major role in the ways I look at the world and interact with those around me. BUT -- and this is the point for my writing this -- many people in my circle see horror fans as people with "no taste in art". If it isn't complex, delves into understanding some deep aspect of humanity, and of superior quality ... then it isn't worth the time to enjoy. It is just fluff thrown together by people who aren't really artists, but artistic whores pandering to the masses (more interested in money than creating art.)

I agree on a certain level with this view. I think the real Art out there is far more important to us, as human beings, than the mindless fluff. BUT, I also think that horror (fear, despair, terror) produces emotions in people that are real and genuine, and CAN be explored on a higher, more artistic level ... and to discount the entire genre because it is "horror" is closed-minded and self-destructive. There are things you can find in the field of horror that you can ONLY find in the field of horror ... and if one is to say that one's understanding of humanity is well-rounded, one MUST experience a lot of what horror has to offer.

Plus, it's fun! We (I mean English teachers) don't always have to be stuffy scholars. We should be able to indulge every once in a while! By the way, one of Julia Child's favorite snacks was Cheetos!

jay o2 waster
06-22-2004, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
ehh.. if people are dicks and crabby.. it just means they're miserable.. so fuck em... lol

maximus
06-22-2004, 05:48 PM
Bravo, art-type dude!!!!!

Miss Britt
06-22-2004, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Arioch
Ya i was like that for a while....you can only turn the cheek so many times....
I agree, Sometimes Turning the other cheek just means your open for another slap on that cheek..

bloodrayne
06-23-2004, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by crytel
they just think i need a life or i should spend my money on other things besides horror films...:rolleyes: You mean this ISN'T a LIFE??? :confused: :cool:

Miss Britt
06-23-2004, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
You mean this ISN'T a LIFE??? :confused: :cool:

Then someone Has alot of explaining to do lol....

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 05:34 AM
My case in point (a continuation of my previous rant): I just responded to the "your favorite book" thread in the "Books" forum, and said that my favorite horror story of all time is Shakespeare's MacBeth. I actually carry a copy of this with me most places I go. Shakespeare tried to explore the entire gamut of human existence and what it meant to be a human being, and he did it with such poetry and genius. Naturally, he HAD to explore the frightening and horrific at some point. You can't escape it! It's part of human life! AND (and here's a cool tidbit I like to teach) Shakespeare was like the Stephen King of his day. People came to his plays not only for the stories he told, but also for the BLOOD. They LOVED it! Actors would fill thin sacks with the blood and guts of pigs and hide these under their costumes. During a sword fight, if a character happened to get stabbed or sliced, the actor would bust this sack with his arm, letting the blood and guts spill out all over the stage from under his shirt. And would anybody call Shakespeare sick? MacBeth is a prime example that horror can be Art, and worth experiencing not just for the fun of it.

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 06:14 AM
Just checking to see if my quote works now...

Miss Britt
06-23-2004, 06:28 AM
William Shakespear.. Was it MacBeth or Hamlet that was poor yourich for I knew him well????

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by Miss Britt
William Shakespear.. Was it MacBeth or Hamlet that was poor yourich for I knew him well????

That was Hamlet. The awesome quotes: "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" and "Murder most foul" both come from that play as well.

Miss Britt
06-23-2004, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by Stingy Jack
That was Hamlet. The awesome quotes: "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" and "Murder most foul" both come from that play as well.
Hubble Bubble Toil and trouble... MacBeth Right

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by Miss Britt
Hubble Bubble Toil and trouble... MacBeth Right

Actually, it's "Double, double toil and trouble; / Fire, burn; and caldron, bubble." But, yes, that's Macbeth.

Vodstok
06-23-2004, 06:53 AM
"Alas, poor Yorick, i knew him, Horatio."


People always mess that one up :)

Miss Britt
06-23-2004, 07:19 AM
Not offend, I like Shakespear, But I prefer Poe.

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
"'Tis some visitor," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door-
Only this, and nothing more."

I had to shorten it...

Vodstok
06-23-2004, 07:20 AM
I like me:D
http://scaredyet.net/gloom/

newb
06-23-2004, 07:35 AM
One of my favs

THE COW

The friendly cow, all red and white,
I love with all my heart:
She gives cream with all her might,
To eat with apple-tart.

She wanders lowing here and there,
And yet she cannot stray,
All in the pleasant open air,
The pleasant light of day;

And blown by all the winds that pass
And wet with all the showers,
She walks among the meadow grass
And eats the meadow flowers.

Miss Britt
06-23-2004, 07:44 AM
Thats cute... Where'd You get it?

newb
06-23-2004, 07:50 AM
I googled childrens poems.

Its actually from Robert Louis Stevenson

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Miss Britt
Not offend, I like Shakespear, But I prefer Poe.

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
"'Tis some visitor," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door-
Only this, and nothing more."

I had to shorten it...

Yeah, Poe is great. Some truly fucked up stuff with him. The problem with him is, though, is that a LOT of his stuff his not so good. I quote a critic whose name eludes me for the moment: "Poe: 20% genius, 80% pure shit." However, he's still read today thanks for some random gems of his. He influenced more artists in France than in America when he was at the height of his career. But when it comes to pure artistic creepiness, you can't go wrong with "Masque of the Red Death", "The Tell-Tale Heart", "The Fall of the House of Usher", and "The Pit and the Pendulum". :D I make my students read "The Raven" every Halloween.

Vodstok
06-23-2004, 07:59 AM
Ahhh! Stingy! You evil bastard....


Just kidding, i always looked foward to reading Poe in school. I wish Lovecraft was more widespread in the education system. I think we read a very short story by him once in my 12th grade class...

Of course, we also read "A Rose for Emily"... Talk about messed up...

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Ahhh! Stingy! You evil bastard....


Just kidding, i always looked foward to reading Poe in school. I wish Lovecraft was more widespread in the education system. I think we read a very short story by him once in my 12th grade class...

Of course, we also read "A Rose for Emily"... Talk about messed up...

Actually, I'm glad you brought up Lovecraft (again! Yay! :D ) Your twelfth grade teacher must have been awesome to have let you experience him. I agree that Lovecraft should be taken more seriously by academians. In fact, it was not until quite recently (as early as 1999) that Lovecraft's writings were printed in a Penguin Twentieth-Century Classics edition ... and categorized as "Literature"! You can thank the scholarship of S.T. Joshi for this. When I go for my doctorate degree, I may do my thesis on Lovecraft to give him a boost (I was going to do it on Joyce) ... so far, I think Joshi is the only Lovecraft scholar out there that is taken seriously, so I'll definitely be able to tap into an hugely unexplored field ... as far as professional criticism and study goes.

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 08:27 AM
A couple of other "Artful" horror tales (sans Poe and Shakespeare):


Frankenstein: Mary Shelly
Dracula: Bram Stoker
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde: Robert Louis Stevenson
The Legend of Sleepy Hallow: Washington Irving
"Christabel" and "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner": Samuel Taylor Coleridge
The Book of Evidence: John Banville
The Yellow Wallpaper: Kate Chopin

and...

Pick up Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural, edited by Phyllis Cerf Wagner and Herbert Wise and published by The Modern Library

I should really get off this subject ... this goes in the "Books" forum.

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 09:29 AM
Actually, I'm sliding this thread back to the top. I want Vod to post an opinion on the Lovecraft thing. :D

Vodstok
06-23-2004, 09:34 AM
If you do a thesis on lovecraft, you must publish it :)
He is one of my favorite authors, and i have had the honor of having my story Gloom (http://scaredyet.net/gloom) compared to his works. I would definately love for him to get more recognition from the world at large.

I would locve to see a REAl and good lovecraft movie get made, not just cult-classics like reanimator, or the usual crapfests like "Dagon".

Stingy, you show me time and again that you are a good person :)

bloodrayne
06-23-2004, 09:35 AM
Well...Before he does...I just wanted to jump in here and say that I LOVE "The Yellow Wallpaper"...It has an amazingly eerie, creepy feel to it...Really cool:)








EDIT:...lol...You beat me:D

Stingy Jack
06-23-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by bloodrayne
Well...Before he does...I just wanted to jump in here and say that I LOVE "The Yellow Wallpaper"...It has an amazingly eerie, creepy feel to it...Really cool:)








EDIT:...lol...You beat me:D

I agree!! "The Yellow Wallpaper" has one of the creepiest endings I have ever read in a work of fiction. Man, Bloodrayne, you're awesome!

Thanks Vod on the "good people" thing. And I totally agree with your opinion on the Lovecraft films. I'm tired of his stuff getting raped by hacks. That's probably one of the main reasons he's still ignored.

Vodstok
06-23-2004, 09:43 AM
Hey, Dean R Koontz has had some good books, and look what they made out of them.....

Watchers and Phantoms come to mind... Both great books, both OBSCENELY awful movies.

And bloodrayne, i believe John tuturro said it best:
"I am very very sneaky, sir" (or ma'am.)

bloodrayne
06-23-2004, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Hey, Dean R Koontz has had some good books, and look what they made out of them.....

Watchers and Phantoms come to mind... Both great books, both OBSCENELY awful movies.

And bloodrayne, i believe John tuturro said it best:
"I am very very sneaky, sir" (or ma'am.) LOL...Mr. Deeds was cool...

Vodstock...Did you notice that Watchers and Watchers II did NOT have a sequential storyline? It seemed more like the first Watchers was SO far from the book (except that it had a creature in it, and a man...Even though the man was totally different and of a completely different age:rolleyes: ), that the second one was just the same story, only with an attempt to get closer to the actual story in the book?...That's the way it felt to me

Stingy Jack...Thanks...You rock pretty hard yourself:cool: :)

Vodstok
06-23-2004, 10:57 AM
I never saw watchers 2... Never wanted to after seeing the first.

Miss Britt
06-23-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Hey, Dean R Koontz has had some good books, and look what they made out of them.....

Watchers and Phantoms come to mind... Both great books, both OBSCENELY awful movies.

And bloodrayne, i believe John tuturro said it best:
"I am very very sneaky, sir" (or ma'am.)
Yea well, It was all the directors fault for those imitation of Koontz book's, They even did a t.v. movie for Face of Fear, My personal favorite Koontz Book.... It sucked (the Movie, Not the Book):D

thEsounDofdirT
06-23-2004, 11:43 AM
you know it's bad when your friend asks you in all seriousness... "you wouldn't REALLY kill anyone .. would you?"

this has happened to me... and of course i wouldn't.. i'm a really nice person.. i just really love the horror element in life.. it seems to be the largest part

i couldn't believe this was asked of me in seriousness