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TheBossInTheWall
04-14-2015, 06:23 PM
Anyone else besides me only like the first Nightmare on Elm Street and the first Friday the 13th? Its rare I like a slasher flic so it makes sense for me to not be into the rest, but the other Nightmare on Elm Streets just didn't do much for me. Maybe the 2nd. Maybe.
As a contrast the only Hellraiser I didn't think was great was the third one and the last one Revelations which was awful.
Jake.Ashworth
04-15-2015, 04:16 AM
Anyone else besides me only like the first Nightmare on Elm Street and the first Friday the 13th? Its rare I like a slasher flic so it makes sense for me to not be into the rest, but the other Nightmare on Elm Streets just didn't do much for me. Maybe the 2nd. Maybe.
As a contrast the only Hellraiser I didn't think was great was the third one and the last one Revelations which was awful.
Im with you on Hellraiser. Im an addict, so I watch them all the way through a handful of times a year. As for Freddy and Jason, I am a slasher fan. I love all the gore and fun, I mean how could you not like Jason wrapping a girl up in her sleeping bag and beating her against a tree. Also to note, I thought Freddy vs. Jason was pretty legit. A good piece of the franchises.
horcrux2007
04-15-2015, 05:16 AM
Anyone else besides me only like the first Nightmare on Elm Street and the first Friday the 13th? Its rare I like a slasher flic so it makes sense for me to not be into the rest, but the other Nightmare on Elm Streets just didn't do much for me. Maybe the 2nd. Maybe.
As a contrast the only Hellraiser I didn't think was great was the third one and the last one Revelations which was awful.
I really liked Dream Warriors, Dream Master (my fav sequel), and Dream Child.
The only Friday sequel I liked was The New Blood, the one with the girl with telekinesis. All the others were boring....
I've only seen the first 4 Hellraisers. First one is my favorite, and the 4th one (Bloodlines?) is my favorite sequel. I didn't like Hellbound or Hell on Earth.
Jake.Ashworth
04-15-2015, 08:08 AM
I really liked Dream Warriors, Dream Master (my fav sequel), and Dream Child.
The only Friday sequel I liked was The New Blood, the one with the girl with telekinesis. All the others were boring....
I've only seen the first 4 Hellraisers. First one is my favorite, and the 4th one (Bloodlines?) is my favorite sequel. I didn't like Hellbound or Hell on Earth.
Bloodline was fantastic, I saw it in theaters with my pops when I was 12. It was fantastic. There are some good entries in the later ones but its just hard to enjoy without Doug Bradley.
TheBossInTheWall
04-15-2015, 08:17 AM
Hellbound and Deader are tied for my favorite sequals. Hellbound was amazing visually and the story was done well too. The sets, etc. Deader was different from the others. Investigation, spooky cult but not as a trope/cliche, experiencing all this in a foreign country/city. Visually the scale was a lot smaller, but it really worked to express the dread/terror of the unfamiliar.
TheBossInTheWall
04-15-2015, 08:20 AM
Bloodline was fantastic, I saw it in theaters with my pops when I was 12. It was fantastic. There are some good entries in the later ones but its just hard to enjoy without Doug Bradley.
Heh reminds me I got my parents to take me to see Lost Boys 3 or 4 times in the theater. And Pump Up The Volume at 15. Oh and Robocop at 12. For my birthday I also got them to take me to see Kids(1995) in the theater. It made them very uncomfortable. : )
Jake.Ashworth
04-15-2015, 08:47 AM
Heh reminds me I got my parents to take me to see Lost Boys 3 or 4 times in the theater. And Pump Up The Volume at 15. Oh and Robocop at 12. For my birthday I also got them to take me to see Kids(1995) in the theater. It made them very uncomfortable. : )
That's great. My dad was awesome, he loved this shit. We used to sit in the kitchen (I know its strange, our TV was in the kitchen growing up.) and drink "blood" red koolaid and watch horror movies. He was really into Troma so Toxie was one of my heros growing up.
TheBossInTheWall
04-15-2015, 09:26 AM
That's great. My dad was awesome, he loved this shit. We used to sit in the kitchen (I know its strange, our TV was in the kitchen growing up.) and drink "blood" red koolaid and watch horror movies. He was really into Troma so Toxie was one of my heros growing up.
That's rad. My parents were not into any horror movies. I watched em all by myself most of the time. Oy vey, more memories. Reminds me my hero was Dwayne Wayne from A Different World. So old....
Jake.Ashworth
04-15-2015, 01:35 PM
That's rad. My parents were not into any horror movies. I watched em all by myself most of the time. Oy vey, more memories. Reminds me my hero was Dwayne Wayne from A Different World. So old....
Yes you are... Lol
My dad is a little crazy. He was in a metal band for years in Missouri. He has a pentagram tattoo on his palm.
Joe @ AltInn Games
05-22-2015, 07:46 PM
On the subject of Nightmare on Elm Street, I revisited the second one after finally sitting down and watching 3 all the way up. I think it might be my favorite one.
Call me crazy, but I see a common subtext in almost all of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies (and no I don't mean the underlying gay subtext of pt. 2). See, you can look at the movies from the perspective that Freddy represents problems that teenagers face. Crises that they have to deal with at this big point in their lives where they're starting to grow up. I think Dream Warriors captured it best; I caught on from the very first dream scene when I watched it recently. When Kristen goes inside the Freddy house and finds the hanging bodies of so many teenagers, it clicked for me.
The kids in the mental hospital are all facing problems. Big problems. One of them burns herself with cigarettes. Another formerly used drugs. Etc. (not remembering any others off the top of my head) but one common bond they have is that they're facing big problems in their life.
Look at part 2. The reason this one is quickly becoming my favorite is because Jesse spends the whole movie wondering if he's insane or not. For a little while, it might've even fooled me. He shows signs of suffering from mental illness or drug addiction, problems that haunt lots of people. The movies just seem like metaphors for very real things; they're giving life crises a face and a name. I think they go a lot deeper than just slasher films, if you look hard enough. Not to say that this subtext is intended, or even easy to see. It might just be me. But that's why I love the Nightmare series so much.
(first post btw)
Roiffalo
05-23-2015, 01:31 PM
This topic seems a bit redundant but I'll indulge.
I haven't seen all the Elm Street films, but from the first few I have, they're all about the same to me. Freddy's style of killing isn't my preferred. Like shooting fish in a barrel if you can get them in their sleep.
Fri13th I just love them all. Some more than others, but I can't think of one out of the lot that I wouldn't watch again.
Same for Hellraiser, but Inferno, Hellseeker, and Deader... The first was kind of interesting, although it took FOREVER to go anywhere, but then they did it again for 2 more sequels? Why? It was predictable overkill and just boring. And Revelations I just couldn't get behind. The story and characters were okay, but it didn't have the same feel, and I didn't care for Pinhead for once.
Im with you on Hellraiser. Im an addict, so I watch them all the way through a handful of times a year.
As for Freddy and Jason, I am a slasher fan. I love all the gore and fun, I mean how could you not like Jason wrapping a girl up in her sleeping bag and beating her against a tree.
Including Revelations, Jake? I couldn't take Pinhead seriously without Doug behind the makeup myself. Believe me I tried.
Omg I'm not the only one who loved that scene. XD
JasonX is worth watching for that alone. I couldn't stop laughing. Dad thought I was fucking nuts.
Joe @ AltInn Games
05-24-2015, 07:19 AM
Including Revelations, Jake? I couldn't take Pinhead seriously without Doug behind the makeup myself. Believe me I tried.
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Good god! I didn't know they got a different actor for that one! Jesus that's weird.
Omg I'm not the only one who loved that scene. XD
JasonX is worth watching for that alone. I couldn't stop laughing. Dad thought I was fucking nuts.
That was probably the best kill of the series, even if the movie was so weird. Jason X wasn't a bad movie in my opinion, but it was basically like a comic book movie with a bunch of murders.
Roiffalo
05-24-2015, 01:25 PM
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Good god! I didn't know they got a different actor for that one! Jesus that's weird.
Please tell me you're kidding. XD
That was probably the best kill of the series, even if the movie was so weird. Jason X wasn't a bad movie in my opinion, but it was basically like a comic book movie with a bunch of murders.
Agreed. I was actually getting pretty hyped over it. The beginning was smart enough and intense, but somewhere along the line I got bored. That "death" (they were holograms) scene brought me back to full attention though.
MichaelMyers
05-24-2015, 01:59 PM
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LOL they set up a Dunkin Donuts in hell?
Joe @ AltInn Games
05-25-2015, 12:11 PM
Please tell me you're kidding. XD
I never saw it haha. Didn't pay attention to posters and etc well enough to see it was another guy.