Have you ever had a supernatural experience?

[rachMiel]

I'm guessing a thread like this exists somewhere in the forum ... but I searched and couldn't find one.

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I thought it would be cool if we shared experiences we've had that seemed to be in the realm of the supernatural: ghosts, poltergeists, ouija, clairvoyance, astral projection, channeling, that kind of thing.

[The Bloofer Lady]

My sister, who is the most no-nonsense , head-on-straight person you will ever meet, sees ghosts regularly and has visions quite often. I, on the other hand...nada! Except once.

I often used to take a little boy I babysat to see some antique trucks in a subdivision across the highway from mine. It wasn't far..I would walk and pull him in a wagon. Long story short, I saw a man wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses and mechanic's overalls standing by one of the trucks. He seemed to appear out of nowhere and did startle me. I started to say "Hi" and he vanished. A really unsettling thing was that he appeared to have his entire face bandaged.

I know I saw him, it doesn't bother me that I can't prove it and I've never seen him since.

[rachMiel]

Cool! Spooky ... Thanks for sharing. :-)

I've had a few experiences that I can't explain in consensus reality terms ... at least not with any kind of certainty.

The most dramatic was with a ouija board.

Years ago I used to hang out with a young woman -- she was 16 at the time -- who claimed to have seen ghosts on a regular basis when she lived in England.

One day she made a makeshift ouija board: drew letters on a piece of paper, cut them out, arranged them on a glass table, used the plastic top of a container as a planchette. I asked if I could try ouija-ing with her. I asked several questions, of increasing obscurity ... and the answers were all correct.

Finally, as a test, I asked for the name of a friend from my childhood that I had forgotten, and closed my eyes (so I couldn't subconsciously lead the planchette to letters). The planchette moved a few times, then stopped. I opened my eyes and Vanessa told me the name it had spelled out. It was the name of a guy I used to be best friends with through junior high school, then had grown distant from in high school.

At this point I got kind of spooked, so we stopped. Vanessa was btw unimpressed. She expected results like this. In fact, she thought it was kind of dull because the planchette hadn't jumped around or moved on its own.

The next day we tried again, but this time the board gave very nasty and malicious answers to everything. So we stopped, both of us kind of spooked. I've never done ouija since then.

[horcrux2007]

I don't believe in the supernatural, so I would have to say no.

[rachMiel]

Luckily, the supernatural believes in you. :danger:

[horcrux2007]

Can't really feel threatened by something I don't believe in...

[rachMiel]

It's a blessing, not a threat! ::wink::

[The Bloofer Lady]

Years ago I got my daughter a ouija board for xmas and she and her friends would never use it! Some people are very spooked by them.

[Dead Bad Things]

Good ole Ouija...I got possessed by usin' one by myself back in the days.Crazy thing is how these things are mass produced along with other board games,yet considered supernatural....

[rachMiel]

Possessed? For real?

[Dead Bad Things]

Yep. Ya know the old story about how yer never supposed to use one by yerself? Went and did just that, ended up invitin' somethin' in, got pretty freaked out and tried to go after a neighbor with a claw hammer......

[Angra]

Luckily, the supernatural believes in you. :danger:

No, that's Jesus.

[horcrux2007]

No, that's Jesus.

I didn't expect it to turn into religion so quickly.

[rachMiel]

Hey, how about a splatter series with Jesus as the hero?

The Man from Nazareth
The Man from Nazareth II
Son of the Father of The Man from Nazareth
Jesus in Space

The tagline could be:

Before Ash ... there was The Man from Nazareth. Groovy.

[rachMiel]

Yep. Ya know the old story about how yer never supposed to use one by yerself? Went and did just that, ended up invitin' somethin' in, got pretty freaked out and tried to go after a neighbor with a claw hammer......
1. You're funnin' with us.
2. You're delusional.
3. You're telling the truth.

Hmm ... not sure which of the above I'd prefer. ::roll eyes::

[Sculpt]

I don't believe in the supernatural, so I would have to say no. = ) You are too funny! That's one of those "leading answers". Do you mean the "supernatural" things that happen are really natural, we just don't fully understand them yet? I think most would agree to those semantics.

Or do you mean it like, if an out-of-control car was moving towards you, and you didn't believe in cars, then you wouldn't see it, and the car couldn't make physical contact with you?

Luckily, the supernatural believes in you. :danger:LOL! That's close to the phrase that crossed my mind; from Stephen King's The Stand (movie), the old black woman said something like that to Rob Lowe the mute.

Can't really feel threatened by something I don't believe in...Not until it threatens you.

Years ago I got my daughter a ouija board for xmas and she and her friends would never use it! Some people are very spooked by them. LOL! I love you, Bloo. I laughed out loud when I read this! The irony of that is perfect for a SNL script.

Yep. Ya know the old story about how yer never supposed to use one by yerself? Went and did just that, ended up invitin' somethin' in, got pretty freaked out and tried to go after a neighbor with a claw hammer......What happened when you went after your neighbor with the claw hammer?

[horcrux2007]

I'm pretty sure my post made it clear that I don't believe in ghosts, demons, angels, gods, etc.

[MichaelMyers]

I'm pretty sure my post made it clear that I don't believe in ghosts, demons, angels, gods, etc.

So why the interest in horror? Not that one can't be a materialist and a fan, I suppose...

[Dead Bad Things]

Some friends rounded me up and got me outta there before the fuzz showed up.
Ahh the ole days...good times good times�

[horcrux2007]

So why the interest in horror? Not that one can't be a materialist and a fan, I suppose...

Well, I don't believe in magic, but I love Harry Potter.

I find the plots and overall experience more entertaining than other genes. Those are the biggest reasons I like horror.

[Sculpt]

Have you ever had a supernatural experience?

I don't believe in the supernatural, so I would have to say no.I'm just kidding around with you, cause I thought your answer's sentence structure was interesting...

Your answer reads like, "I don't believe in the supernatural" "therefore a supernatural experience cannot happen to me."

You know, as if you believed your own personal decision to believe one way or another could have an effect on the actual existence (or nonexistence) of demons, angels, all manner of ESP, space aliens, God, etc. You do realize your belief can't make any of things blink into, or out of, existence, right?

I'm pretty sure my post made it clear that I don't believe in ghosts, demons, angels, gods, etc.Do you mean you're a skeptic, meaning you've never seen anything as of yet, that makes you certain ghosts, demons, angels, God exist?

Or do you mean you're a man of faith, that is, even though you can't know/prove ghosts, demons, angels, God don't exist, you still make the leap of faith to believe they don't exist?

[horcrux2007]

I'm just kidding around with you, cause I thought your answer's sentence structure was interesting...

Your answer reads like, "I don't believe in the supernatural" "therefore a supernatural experience cannot happen to me."

You know, as if you believed your own personal decision to believe one way or another could have an effect on the actual existence (or nonexistence) of demons, angels, all manner of ESP, space aliens, God, etc. You do realize your belief can't make any of things blink into, or out of, existence, right?

Do you mean you're a skeptic, meaning you've never seen anything as of yet, that makes you certain ghosts, demons, angels, God exist?

Or do you mean you're a man of faith, that is, even though you can't know/prove ghosts, demons, angels, God don't exist, you still make the leap of faith to believe they don't exist?

I don't believe in any of it because the idea of that stuff just sounds incredibly stupid to me. It's not that I need to see it because I can't see bacteria, but I know they exist.

[MichaelMyers]

So, Sculpt, prithee tell us about your experiences with supernatural phenomena.

[Sculpt]

= ) Just making sure I understand your response... I don't believe in any of it because the idea of that stuff just sounds incredibly stupid to me.
You faithfully don't believe in, let's say demons, because they "sound stupid"?

It's not that I need to see it because I can't see bacteria, but I know they exist.
And, hmm... this part is tough to understand. You know bacteria exist, even though you can't see them... I got that part. It's not that you need to see a demon... to know they exist?

I noticed you ignored my question asking you which of these two (mutually exclusively) options you were: "skeptic" or "man of faith"... which is fine, you don't have to answer that if you don't want to. ...if it confuses you, or makes you uncomfortable ::stick out tongue::.

So, Sculpt, prithee tell us about your experiences with supernatural phenomena.I have a few biggies. But I'll pass. I love reading about them. But we know if you didn't experience them yourself, or someone you trust, it doesn't doesn't mean much.

[hammerfan]

A few years ago, I was working at a jobsite in Connecticut. On Superbowl Sunday 2010, there was an explosion at the plant, and 6 men were killed. A few weeks after the explosion, I'm sitting at my desk in the trailer, and I feel like someone is standing in my doorway, and kind of saw a "shape". You know when you see something out of the corner of your eye, and you're not sure if it's real or not? Anyway, I look up and there's nothing there. Kinda weirded me out after what had happened there.

[Dead Bad Things]

Demons? He'll I got got a few... one in my bed, one in my pipe, one in my gin bottle, and another one in my coffee pot!😈

[The Bloofer Lady]

Demons? He'll I got got a few... one in my bed, one in my pipe, one in my gin bottle, and another one in my coffee pot!😈

I like you.

[rachMiel]

Back when I was around 20 or so I got myself a tarot deck and started doing readings for people. (I worked at a summer camp at the time.)

At the beginning, I felt like I needed to put creative energy into the readings, to connect the dots of the cards so to speak, weave a plausible story from them.

But then the stories began to create themselves (or so it felt). It wasn't as if I were reaching for a connection between the cards and the person being read, it was like the person's story (or answer to their question) became clear to me, like I was merely reporting, not creating.

At some point I became so confident in what I said and the people I was reading said I hit it so squarely on the head ... that I got spooked and backed off. I figured either it was the power of suggestion (which is creepy, kind of like a con game) or I was in fact getting a real insight into their private lives via the cards. Either way, it felt uncomfortable.

[Dead Bad Things]

Gave up on cards years ago...seems like they always were tellin' me things I already knew.Nowadays I use the I-Ching,less complicated more philosophical...

[Sculpt]

Back when I was around 20 or so I got myself a tarot deck and started doing readings for people. (I worked at a summer camp at the time.)

At the beginning, I felt like I needed to put creative energy into the readings, to connect the dots of the cards so to speak, weave a plausible story from them.

But then the stories began to create themselves (or so it felt). It wasn't as if I were reaching for a connection between the cards and the person being read, it was like the person's story (or answer to their question) became clear to me, like I was merely reporting, not creating.

At some point I became so confident in what I said and the people I was reading said I hit it so squarely on the head ... that I got spooked and backed off. I figured either it was the power of suggestion (which is creepy, kind of like a con game) or I was in fact getting a real insight into their private lives via the cards. Either way, it felt uncomfortable.
You must have looked into the various theories of where the info comes from. (I used to read about it in books, & grill people in the know, but now of course there's the internet, including parapsychical research.) Where do you feel you were getting the info? And what theories do you think are most likely?

[Anthropophagus]

I love horror and all the strange and horrible things that are part of the genre but i am also a realist and know that all things supernatural are pure clap trap.

There are no such things as ghosts,nor fortune tellers or physics the same for tarot and palm reading or its many forms.

There are also no such things as Aliens visiting Earth or the Loch Ness Monster,Bigfoot or Sasquatch and the Yeti.Crop circles have been proven to be fake,i could go on and on.

The year is 2014 not 1614.Wake up people and get a grip on reality,stop living in a fantasy world.

[horcrux2007]

I think people made up all that stuff to explain things that they couldn't answer at the time that we can pretty easily explain now.

[Dead Bad Things]

Wait.....It's Not 1614!??!!

[Dead Bad Things]

Wait.....It's Not 1614?!!?

[rachMiel]

You must have looked into the various theories of where the info comes from. (I used to read about it in books, & grill people in the know, but now of course there's the internet, including parapsychical research.) Where do you feel you were getting the info? And what theories do you think are most likely?
I think a bunch of the accuracy of what I said was due to suggestion. The same thing that makes daily horoscope predictions always seem to apply. You could pick a random horoscope, give it to a believer, and they would find a way to make it seem to apply directly to them.

Going along with that, I was surely picking up clues from their reactions to the readings as they progressed. So it was a feedback loop. And the increasing effortlessness of the readings for me was surely due a bunch to developing skills and fluency with the form.

But that might just have been part of what was going on. There might well have been some ESP-ish stuff in the mix. Where does intuition end and ESP begin?

What do you think makes good readers (card, palm, ball) so accurate?

[Goathead]

Even if I like stories about ghosts, demons and so on, I don't believe in any of this stuff. It is a great topic for fiction but here we are at the core, it's fiction. Not more. I am a realist...having a girlfriend who prays to nordic gods, reading tarot cards and talking about magnetism and sprits though...well other topic :D

But before I moved together with my girlfriend, I had for many months a very strange experience in my old room, when I still lived together with my mother.

The thing was, nights, when I was sitting in my room at the pc, I heard almost every night voices...very silent, no understandable words, coming from another language (I think it sounded something like russian), it was like if I was listening to a conversation of two people, mostly a man and a woman.
But if it would not be enough, there was even very often jazz music on top of it, with sometimes a woman singing....and I am not shitting here guys, it's really true.
And just one time, one single time, I heard a voice completely different, take Satan from the movie Legend, it sounded like that.

And that shit was almost every night, but so silent, that you could only hear it when you don't make any noise, and always just for some seconds, sometimes more often the night, sometimes just once.

So, as a realist, there were four possibilities to explain this situation in a logical way. a) It was the neighbours; b) my PC had a virus; and c) (and I really believed that) I was sick in my mind

But every explanation failed:
a) I am not stupid. Hearing the voices, day for day for many months, I could easily know if it's coming from my neighbour, or if the voices were in my room. And believe me, even if the voices were very silent, the source was 100% in my room. Like if it came out of my desk that I was sitting infront of.
b) this would be the most plausible explanation. Problem is, the voices still existed, even with my boxes plugged out.
c) So I really was thinking I was going mad or something, as I could not show anybody these voices as they lasted only for a few seconds...but one day I managed to get my mother in my room in time, and she heard the voices too. So no, I am not sick in my mind.

So, three failed explanations. As I said, I am a realist, but I ran out of logical explanations for that. Anyone any comments?

[Sculpt]

I think a bunch of the accuracy of what I said was due to suggestion. The same thing that makes daily horoscope predictions always seem to apply. You could pick a random horoscope, give it to a believer, and they would find a way to make it seem to apply directly to them.

Going along with that, I was surely picking up clues from their reactions to the readings as they progressed. So it was a feedback loop. And the increasing effortlessness of the readings for me was surely due a bunch to developing skills and fluency with the form.

But that might just have been part of what was going on. There might well have been some ESP-ish stuff in the mix. Where does intuition end and ESP begin?

What do you think makes good readers (card, palm, ball) so accurate?Well, rachMiel, that's why I was asking you. You were the one who said,

But then the stories began to create themselves (or so it felt). It wasn't as if I were reaching for a connection between the cards and the person being read, it was like the person's story (or answer to their question) became clear to me, like I was merely reporting, not creating.

"Merely reporting, not creating". I don't know what info you gave compared to what info the readee/client gave. You'd know if you got a clue from the readee or not. I know when someone's read my mind, or grabbed from source beyond logic or clues. When something is very specific, and there's no clues, there you have it.

Where does intuition end and ESP begin?There's no difference between intuition and ESP.


What do you think makes good readers (card, palm, ball) so accurate?Or 'how does it work?'... There's lots of theories. The collective subconscious (or unconscious) is one. Humans, and animals, share a subconscious, that transmits through energy connections not yet discovered (or not revealed to general public).

Experiments have demonstrated telepathy. Even saw one demonstrating a dog knows when it's master is coming home (at earlier time) when sound of car has been ruled out.

Then there's spirit beings, or other dimensional beings, who watch, giving info to readers through 'telepathy'. There are readers who are expert at reading the readee's cues, manipulating, or doing research, etc. Then there are those who say they have a 'spirit guide', who tells them things.

The I-ching, reading entrails, tea-leaves, seeing images, hearing voices, 'playing in the zone', are all possible examples of connecting to one's own subconscious, reading the collective subconscious, or getting help from spirit beings.

Then there's the theory of the Akashic records - a space-time dimension where a trail of events, & maybe even thoughts & emotions, are left (etched) in this plane, as they occur. One can access this trail through certain senses.

Then of course some believe the Holy Spirit can reveal any info through one's spirit.

[Dead Bad Things]

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[Dead Bad Things]

My bad.....

[rachMiel]

Or 'how does it work?'... There's lots of theories. The collective subconscious (or unconscious) is one. Humans, and animals, share a subconscious, that transmits through energy connections not yet discovered (or not revealed to general public).

Experiments have demonstrated telepathy. Even saw one demonstrating a dog knows when it's master is coming home (at earlier time) when sound of car has been ruled out.

Then there's spirit beings, or other dimensional beings, who watch, giving info to readers through 'telepathy'. There are readers who are expert at reading the readee's cues, manipulating, or doing research, etc. Then there are those who say they have a 'spirit guide', who tells them things.

The I-ching, reading entrails, tea-leaves, seeing images, hearing voices, 'playing in the zone', are all possible examples of connecting to one's own subconscious, reading the collective subconscious, or getting help from spirit beings.

Then there's the theory of the Akashic records - a space-time dimension where a trail of events, & maybe even thoughts & emotions, are left (etched) in this plane, as they occur. One can access this trail through certain senses.

Then of course some believe the Holy Spirit can reveal any info through one's spirit.
Of all of these, connecting to one's unconscious mind seems the likeliest to me. My take on the collective unconscious is that, sure, members of the same species have similar brains, bodies, experiences, feelings, etc. The jump to World Mind is too much of a leap of faith for me.

It does seem likely to me that minds can be read, to some extent. I picture it as a type of transmission, like a radio wave, but (currently) undetectable by science. I also think it likely that future events can, to some extent, be foreseen. Again, inexplicably.

What seems most plausible to you?

[Dead Bad Things]

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[Dead Bad Things]

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[Sculpt]

Of all of these, connecting to one's unconscious mind seems the likeliest to me. My take on the collective unconscious is that, sure, members of the same species have similar brains, bodies, experiences, feelings, etc. The jump to World Mind is too much of a leap of faith for me.

It does seem likely to me that minds can be read, to some extent. I picture it as a type of transmission, like a radio wave, but (currently) undetectable by science. I also think it likely that future events can, to some extent, be foreseen. Again, inexplicably.

What seems most plausible to you?I'm convinced of mind reading. Subconscious to subconscious reading can't be much different. That's the most likely.

[rachMiel]

And what's your take on precognition? Not best guessing, extrapolating into the future based on past/current events. Rather: An ability to see future events.

[Sculpt]

And what's your take on precognition? Not best guessing, extrapolating into the future based on past/current events. Rather: An ability to see future events.
You're really going to ask about this? ::wink:: Well, that's a difficult one.

First off, there's a difference between knowing "the actual future" (if that were to exist) and 'sensing coming events' or being told of scheduled events.

Personally, I don't believe there is an unchangeable future... neither in the capital 'D' Determinism sense, nor the 'has already happened' sense, nor the 'can travel to a real existing future or past' sense. I believe there is only now. (Although I've had some experiences that could be construed to contradict that.)

Science Research
Having said that, scientific studies have demonstrated "Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli". Stuff like, subjects are shown 'random' images that evoke physiological responses, that is: like horrific or sexual images that cause measurable changes in the body. Subjects have demonstrated physiological changes (sexual response) -- matching the stimuli immediately coming (sexual image), before that stimuli (sexual image) was viewed. Many different types of studies, not just the one I'm describing, displaying results well beyond chance. (current source http://www.zmescience.com/research/studies/human-precognition-real-science-study-finds-04143122/)

To anyone interested, I recommend the book "Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking", which is an easy-to-read, entertaining book (written by a writer, not researcher) describing many of the studies, intuition, & practical & interesting subjects related to it.

From what I read of the researchers, it's generally agreed, that there's some physical stimuli being experienced to cause the knowledge, but the nature of the stimuli & perception isn't understood. I think that's certainly in the big subconscious realm.

Anyway, there's people who 'predict', or is it sense info, correctly with consistency in regards to sports, economic markets, award & election contests, by apparently using means beyond "obvious practical concrete research". But again, that suggests reading current info, not 'future' info.

Prophesy
Prophesy is a different animal. Foretelling of future events that one learns from a vision/dream -- like a visitation from angelic/spirit/spacealien conversation, etc, that reveals an event will take place. You have Nostradamus, Daniel, etc.

Again, with these visions, the fact that the event then occurs doesn't mean 'the event already existed' or was unchangeable.

In the area of weather & famine, weather is likely extremely predictable (& unchangeable by 'indigenous' human/animal activity). Sensing future climactic events is extraordinarily impressive, but still makes logical sense.

In other predicted events, such as wars, deaths, change in regimes, if you take the Bible as an example, if God is telling a prophet what's going to happen, (which he is told to tell the people, so when it then happens, people know God did it and why he did it). I think one can naturally assume God has to power to make these things happen through a voluminous number of means, over a great period of time; so that it's silly to ascribe the prophecy to 'seeing the actual future', as opposed to seeing or hearing a representation of what has been 'scheduled'.

Relating to current, or non-God-prophets, such as a psychic/fortuneteller making event predictions... a number of beings can find out about events that have been scheduled by powerful forces, and then tell others about it, these revelations can seem Deterministic when they are simply controlled in the present.

Then of course, there's the scientifically well demonstrated Power Of Suggestion -- such as the placebo effect. Many 'predicted events' are heavily influenced by this... subconscious & foolish 'self-fulfilling prophesy' actions people do; but everybody should already know that.

[rachMiel]

> Personally, I don't believe there is an unchangeable future... neither in the capital 'D' Determinism sense, nor the 'has already happened' sense, nor the 'can travel to a real existing future or past' sense. I believe there is only now. (Although I've had some experiences that could be construed to contradict that.)

So no block universe guy you, eh? If there were a block universe, some people might have the ability to move their consciousness to different times, like moving a play cursor through an audio file.

> Relating to current, or non-God-prophets, such as a psychic/fortuneteller making event predictions... a number of beings can find out about events that have been scheduled by powerful forces, and then tell others about it, these revelations can seem Deterministic when they are simply controlled in the present.

In other words, some people are just good predictors, extrapolators. Futurists make careers on this.

I don't have a theory for how it works – beyond some kind of wave transmission – but I have this gut feeling that it is possible to sense a future event.

[Sculpt]

> Personally, I don't believe there is an unchangeable future... neither in the capital 'D' Determinism sense, nor the 'has already happened' sense, nor the 'can travel to a real existing future or past' sense. I believe there is only now. (Although I've had some experiences that could be construed to contradict that.)

So no block universe guy you, eh? If there were a block universe, some people might have the ability to move their consciousness to different times, like moving a play cursor through an audio file. Nope, not a Block Universe guy (Block Universe/Eternalism = all points in time are equally 'real', as opposed to the Presentist idea that only the present is real). Some people might have the ability to move their consciousness through different times even if there wasn't a Block Universe -- because there's history books, pictures, home videos, and maybe lots of other types of records we don't realize exist (like the proposed Akashic Records). People who practice Remote Viewing (pick your term) purport their consciousness perusing over the past.

> Relating to current, or non-God-prophets, such as a psychic/fortuneteller making event predictions... a number of beings can find out about events that have been scheduled by powerful forces, and then tell others about it, these revelations can seem Deterministic when they are simply controlled in the present.

In other words, some people are just good predictors, extrapolators. Futurists make careers on this.

I don't have a theory for how it works – beyond some kind of wave transmission – but I have this gut feeling that it is possible to sense a future event.Sure, like when someone's hair stands-on-end just before a lighting strike. Like foreseeing a birth when you see a woman looking pregnant. We sense processes. I bet there's a lot of processes going on that our conscious minds don't recognize; things are extremely interrelated. Doesn't mean time 'exists'.

I think time is an abstract way to describe motion, particularly (apparent) constant motion. It's an abstract 'dimension', necessary for making dates, plans & predictions.

[ImmortalSlasher]

I believe I've come across ghosts a few times. I posted about it here some time ago.

[MichaelMyers]

I believe I've come across ghosts a few times. I posted about it here some time ago.

Would love to read those experiences. This is where we need V.

[horcrux2007]

https://www.youtube.com/user/grav3yardgirl

This youtuber used to post a lot of paranormal videos.

If you want to watch any of them, you have to go WAY back because she doesn't do any of those kinds of videos anymore. She had a bad experience in someone's house with a ghost box.

[Sculpt]

https://www.youtube.com/user/grav3yardgirl

This youtuber used to post a lot of paranormal videos.

If you want to watch any of them, you have to go WAY back because she doesn't do any of those kinds of videos anymore. She had a bad experience in someone's house with a ghost box.
What, over the ghost box (modified radio) did a ghost call her a pretentious Polly? Ghosts can be so cruel, especially of the safety of the airwaves.

Anyone know how the ghost box works?

[ImmortalSlasher]

Would love to read those experiences. This is where we need V.

What happened to V?

[horcrux2007]

What, over the ghost box (modified radio) did a ghost call her a pretentious Polly? Ghosts can be so cruel, especially of the safety of the airwaves.

Anyone know how the ghost box works?

No, I don't remember what exactly happened to her.

If I remember correctly, you fix a radio to make it play all frequencies rather than just one.

[Sculpt]

I've never used one, but I read the ghost box moves through the AM or FM band, and picks up bits and pieces from each station, like moving an old fashion radio knob. I'm curious how the radios 'decide' where to go on the band & when.

[rachMiel]

Doesn't mean time 'exists'.
If time doesn't exist, where does that leave causality? An effect always happens after its cause, right? And before/after requires time.

[Sculpt]

If time doesn't exist, where does that leave causality? An effect always happens after its cause, right? And before/after requires time.
When I say time doesn't exist, I mean it has no substance, no energy, no conscience, no matter, no position in space/existence. It exists as a concept, like the number one, or the concept of 'nothing', etc.

Matter and energy move: marble 1 hits marble 2; there's causality, and we have the concept of 'before and after', but it's just a mental construct.

Time is the measurement of matter moving at a constant rate, such as the seconds-arm of a watch. The only way we keep track of duration is with our brains memory (additional dendrite connections & other organizations), writing it down, or since the 1800's photos, records, tapes, computers etc. Neurons, paper & ink, photos, computer code exists, but time still does not.

Video taping a watch, or marble 1 hitting marble 2, does this create some sort of 'time' matter or energy separate from the recording? Of course not.

You can have a dream of Harvey a talking rabbit, but that doesn't mean Harvey really exists, at least not by empirical science, nor valid reasoning logic.

[horcrux2007]

Where the hell did this come from?

[The Bloofer Lady]

No, I don't remember what exactly happened to her.

If I remember correctly, you fix a radio to make it play all frequencies rather than just one.

I have a little shortwave radio and sometimes I will listen to the white noise. You can hear weird beeps that are probably military but sound extraterrestrial and distorted voices that sound otherworldly which could be anything, from hunters to preachers.

[rachMiel]

And ya gotta love the numbers stations, henna?

[rachMiel]

When I say time doesn't exist, I mean it has no substance, no energy, no conscience, no matter, no position in space/existence. It exists as a concept, like the number one, or the concept of 'nothing', etc.
By that reasoning, consciousness doesn't exist. Yet it is the only thing we ever directly experience.

[Angra]

Wow, this is deep.

Are you guys smoking weed? ::big grin::

[The Bloofer Lady]

And ya gotta love the numbers stations, henna?

I'm curious. What do you mean by "henna"? ::confused::

[MichaelMyers]

There is no past, present, or future. Words to tell my bill collected. ::devil::

[rachMiel]

Wow, this is deep.

Are you guys smoking weed? ::big grin::
Not at the moment ... ::wink::

[rachMiel]

I'm curious. What do you mean by "henna"? ::confused::
I learned it growing up in PA. "Henna?" means something like: "Right?"

[The Bloofer Lady]

I learned it growing up in PA. "Henna?" means something like: "Right?"

You just broadened my world a little! ::cool::

[Sculpt]

By that reasoning, consciousness doesn't exist. Yet it is the only thing we ever directly experience.

Remember, in my first sentence I wrote,

When I say time doesn't exist, I mean it has no substance, no energy, no conscience, no matter, no position in space/existence. It exists as a concept, like the number one, or the concept of 'nothing', etc.

Time has no consciousness. You can't assign time that characteristic (or should I say, you can't lump those two together like that). I think we can prove consciousness exists with logical arguments &/or the empirical method. But we're not considering if consciousness exists. Let's keep this to time. Maybe you can rephrase your question/argument/proposition.

Wow, this is deep.

Are you guys smoking weed? ::big grin::
It has often started that way, hasn't it?

[rachMiel]

Oooh I just remembered another very strange experience I had way back when I lived in Germany in the 70s/80s. I had just seen The Last Wave ... which left me in a kind of daze ... and outside the theater, I saw wet shoeprints that led to a spot in the middle of the sidewalk ... and then stopped, mid-stride so to speak, with no sign of turning around. It was a dry night, no rain. This was particularly spooky after seeing the movie (as anyone who knows it will understand). I never came up with a rational explanation. :-)

[anglewitch]

The closest thing I have to anything supernatural is seeing stuff in my dreams and see the things I saw in my dreams in real life. What we call predictions.

[Sculpt]

Oooh I just remembered another very strange experience I had way back when I lived in Germany in the 70s/80s. I had just seen The Last Wave ... which left me in a kind of daze ... and outside the theater, I saw wet shoeprints that led to a spot in the middle of the sidewalk ... and then stopped, mid-stride so to speak, with no sign of turning around. It was a dry night, no rain. This was particularly spooky after seeing the movie (as anyone who knows it will understand). I never came up with a rational explanation. :-)
Sounds like a good one for Sherlock Holmes.

There's certainly plenty of simple non-supernatural possibilities. They all would probably seem unlikely, but no more unlikely than what you saw.

Your 1st clue is the dry night. Second is wet shoe tracks that immediately stopped. Without a lot of dripping, or other wet spots, the water was likely isolated to the shoes. So, someone may have stepped in a pool of water, or a deep puddle you hadn't noticed.

One rational explanation is the person walking in wet shoes stopped, removed the wet shoes & put them in a bag, and then continued to walk with dry feet or other foot attire. They may have been met by a friend who gave them dry sandals/shoes. They sat on their butt, and switched footware, or had good balance, causing no wet smudges. Or someone simply gave them a towel to dry their feet, & they walked away with dry bare feet. Sounds a simple & rational explanation, far less unusual than what you saw. A less likely option is someone carried them at that point.

[The Bloofer Lady]

I know that movie "Last Wave". Maybe it was some kind of publicity stunt! ::wink::

[rachMiel]

I was wondering the same thing. Not so much publicity (it was a modest theater with a modest budget, and Germany is not as fond of publicity stunts as America is), but some person who wanted to spook someone who had just seen the movie. And maybe that's what happened ... but it seems like a lot of effort for a small payoff ... and one that wouldn't have occurred if I hadn't paid attention to what I saw.

[Sculpt]

I was wondering the same thing. Not so much publicity (it was a modest theater with a modest budget, and Germany is not as fond of publicity stunts as America is), but some person who wanted to spook someone who had just seen the movie. And maybe that's what happened ... but it seems like a lot of effort for a small payoff ... and one that wouldn't have occurred if I hadn't paid attention to what I saw.
The returns on a publicity stunt like that would evaporate pretty quickly. ::big grin::

[rachMiel]

Rack em! ;-)

[anglewitch]

I remember one time I jinxed a friend of mine quite by accident. I was drawing a thank you card for my boss because he gave me my first bee hive, now in the picture there were some beekeepers robbing hives of honey. One of the beekeepers is being stung in the bum (for he was wearing cargo shorts) by a bee. Well I went on trip with my boss and my friend, we were going into the mountains to rob some honey from his hives. I noticed that my friend was wearing cargo shorts. When we started robbing a hive one flew up my friends shorts and stung him right smack in the bum exactly like the picture.