Chrono's Horror Marathon Week 1: Frankenstein's Monster

[ChronoGrl]

Hello Friends and Fiends!

I'm starting to plan for

HORROR MARATHON WEEK 1: FRANKENSTEIN'S MONSTER

Viewing Schedule:

Sunday, September 14th, 6:00 p.m. EST: Frankenstein (1931)
Tuesday, September 16th, 8:00 p.m. EST: Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
Thursday, September 18th, 8:00 p.m. EST: Young Frankenstein (1974)


... And my Netflix discs have arrived!!

I will be using the website meetings.io to organize a private chat room (that also supports video chat). I will share out the link prior to each screening...

CAN'T MAKE IT?

No worries! Join in the conversation here!

WANT TO WATCH SOMETHING ELSE?

Watch/post about other Frankenstein-themed movies through the week - Let's expand the discussion!


Other movies I am considering: Frankenstein's Army (2013) & Frankenweenie (2012)

[Sculpt]

I'll see if I can make it for Young Frankenstein. I've seen Frank and Bride too recently to sit through it, but I'd post on them. I haven't seen Frankenweenie or Franks Army, I'd be up to watch those.

[horcrux2007]

Oh my god Young Frankenstein is one of my favorites!

[Straker]

I should be around, so will do my best to get involved. ::cool::

I'll also recommend you guys to check out the 1910 version of Frankenstein, its like 10mins long so you got no excuse. ::stick out tongue::

TcLxsOJK9bs

[The Villain]

I should be around, so will do my best to get involved. ::cool::

I'll also recommend you guys to check out the 1910 version of Frankenstein, its like 10mins long so you got no excuse. ::stick out tongue::

TcLxsOJK9bs

That ones great. Really creepy for a short silent movie

[hammerfan]

I'm going to pick 3 other Frankenstein movies, as I don't have any of those listed. ::embarrassment::

[Damn Heathen]

Tuesday, September 16th, 8:00 p.m. EST: Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
This is on my Halloween playlist, so I'll watch it on 9/16.

[realdealblues]

I'll try to watch something Frankenstein related over the next week.

Frankenstein and Bride Of Frankenstein are my favorites so I watch them quite frequently. Actually, all the Universal Frankenstein series gets regular watching from me so I may pass on one of them.

I just watched Frankenhooker last weekend which I probably hadn't seen in 15 years.

It's probably been 5 or 6 years since I've seen the Hammer Frankenstein series though so maybe I'll rewatch one of those.

I also haven't seen Mary Shelly's Frankenstein with Bob De Niro in probably 15 years so that might be an option for me too.

Ah, decisions, decisions...

[The Villain]

I'm gonna try and make an effort to watch Frankenstein and Bride

[DrFrankensteinsGirl]

I have all 3 of those Frankenstein films and I'm totally down for watching and discussing them on here :)

[hammerfan]

I have all 3 of those Frankenstein films and I'm totally down for watching and discussing them on here :)

I had a feeling you would be ::wink::

[ChronoGrl]

I'll see if I can make it for Young Frankenstein. I've seen Frank and Bride too recently to sit through it, but I'd post on them. I haven't seen Frankenweenie or Franks Army, I'd be up to watch those.

Awesome!

I really adore Frankenweenie - I think that it was overlooked the year it came out (probably because of the silly name); I really can't wait to watch it again.

As for Frankenstein's Army, well, I won't say it's a good movie per se, but I enjoyed the HECK out of it. ::wink::



Oh my god Young Frankenstein is one of my favorites!

Me too! Essentially grew up with it but it's been a while since I've seen it. Can't wait for the rewatch.

Iiiiiiiiiiii ain't got no booooooooodyyyyy...


I should be around, so will do my best to get involved. ::cool::

I'll also recommend you guys to check out the 1910 version of Frankenstein, its like 10mins long so you got no excuse. ::stick out tongue::

TcLxsOJK9bs

Awesome! I'll check it out tonight - Thanks!


I'm going to pick 3 other Frankenstein movies, as I don't have any of those listed. ::embarrassment::

Yay! I'm loving that folks are going to watch other Frankenstein-related films!



This is on my Halloween playlist, so I'll watch it on 9/16.

Sweet! What else is on your playlist?



I'll try to watch something Frankenstein related over the next week.

Frankenstein and Bride Of Frankenstein are my favorites so I watch them quite frequently. Actually, all the Universal Frankenstein series gets regular watching from me so I may pass on one of them.

I just watched Frankenhooker last weekend which I probably hadn't seen in 15 years.

It's probably been 5 or 6 years since I've seen the Hammer Frankenstein series though so maybe I'll rewatch one of those.

I also haven't seen Mary Shelly's Frankenstein with Bob De Niro in probably 15 years so that might be an option for me too.

Ah, decisions, decisions...

I've never seen Frankenhooker - Tell me about it! Tell me! Tell me! Tell me!! :danger:



I'm gonna try and make an effort to watch Frankenstein and Bride

YAY!

I have all 3 of those Frankenstein films and I'm totally down for watching and discussing them on here :)

Awesome. ::cool::

I'm so pumped, guys!! This is totally making my week!

[Sculpt]

I really adore Frankenweenie - I think that it was overlooked the year it came out (probably because of the silly name); I really can't wait to watch it again.

As for Frankenstein's Army, well, I won't say it's a good movie per se, but I enjoyed the HECK out of it. ::wink::
Frankenweenie is a Tim Burton film; been in my queue a long time.

Watched a little of the opening of Frank Army with a buddy, and he hit the hyperspace button, and I couldn't blame him. Love the concept, but the opening wasn't promising.

[metternich1815]

I have always been a huge Frankenstein fan; in fact, the novel is actually one of my favorites of any genre. I will definitely try to make those viewings, if I am not too busy. I can definitely make the Young Frankenstein one and I will try to make the others. I still have not replaced my Young Frankenstein VHS, so it looks like I will be watching it via VHS. I am not sure how popular it is, but another one I really loved was Curse of Frankenstein (1957). It is classic Hammer and actually one of my favorite Frankenstein adaptations.

[ChronoGrl]

Hello Ghouls and Boys! I have the DVD in the XBox, it's PRIMED and I'm getting ready for Frankenstein Movie #1 - The iconic 1931 version.

Join in the live chat here: http://m1.io/1zrQgj0hcYM
(I'm currently troubleshooting voice/video)


When I think of iconic Monsters, I absolutely think of the '31 Frankenstein but it's been SO LONG since I've seen the movie that I'm not sure if my previous viewing counts any more.

Needless to say, I'm excited to kick this off with a BANG and a HOWL.

Hope you can join in the fun!

[Straker]

I will come say hello. ::cool::

[ChronoGrl]

I will come say hello. ::cool::

::smile::

My first time using a video chat so bear with me if my technical ignorance shines through. ::wink::

[hammerfan]

Sorry I'm late! Wasn't expecting to be at my friend's house that long!

I'm watching

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/margie1959/curse_zps7f950bca.jpg (http://s169.photobucket.com/user/margie1959/media/curse_zps7f950bca.jpg.html)

[Straker]

I keep getting bounced out of the live chat! ::sad::

[Straker]

Sorry I'm late! Wasn't expecting to be at my friend's house that long!

I'm watching

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/margie1959/curse_zps7f950bca.jpg (http://s169.photobucket.com/user/margie1959/media/curse_zps7f950bca.jpg.html)

Love that movie!!

Come join in the live chat!

[hammerfan]

I can't, I don't have a webcam ::sad::

[ChronoGrl]

You don't need one. :)

[Straker]

I can't, I don't have a webcam ::sad::

You don't need one, and you can just type to chat if you want! I keep getting booted out of there though. ::sad::

[hammerfan]

I didn't see any way of typing chat. I can hear and see you and Villain, but that's all. There's nowhere for me to type. And, yes, Wilmington is me.

[hammerfan]

All I see is video on and volume on

[ChronoGrl]

Yeah, it's not clear- Look for the little Chat button under the video boxes. You click that and then you can type at the very bottom.

[hammerfan]

I don't have those buttons

[ChronoGrl]

Sad face - Post a screenshot?

[hammerfan]

Actually, Villain is muted, can't get sound on his

[hammerfan]

I do!

[ChronoGrl]

Yeah, Villain is muted so he's just typing. I tried to screenshare but it won't work. :(

[hammerfan]

This is making me want to go out and buy a webcam!

[ChronoGrl]

This is making me want to go out and buy a webcam!

LOL! What if you unmute yourself and talk?

[Straker]

I keep getting caught in some weird limbo when the room loads.... I can see and hear everything but no one can hear me. ::embarrassment::

I'll have one more go and if I can get it working I'm gonna give up for tonight and give it another try next time.

[hammerfan]

Let me try that

[ChronoGrl]

I keep getting caught in some weird limbo when the room loads.... I can see and hear everything but no one can hear me. ::embarrassment::

I'll have one more go and if I can get it working I'm gonna give up for tonight and give it another try next time.

Sounds good! Glad you were able to make it at all. Hope my talking didn't bug you. :)


HF - What browser are you using?

[hammerfan]

Nope, didn't work. I'll take a picture of the screen with my phone and I'll message it to you

[ChronoGrl]

Nope, didn't work. I'll take a picture of the screen with my phone and I'll message it to you

Cool - Sorry for the trouble! This is new to me too! Can you at least hear us?

[hammerfan]

Look at your cell phone

[ChronoGrl]

Oh crap, it's across the room, one sec. ::stick out tongue::

[Straker]

That was a blast.... Not sure how I'll manage the midweek/ later viewings, someone might have to wake me up half way through next time. ::cool::

[The Villain]

I enjoyed it as well. Glad i was able to take part. I'm gonna try and do the others as well

[ChronoGrl]

Yes!! That was a lot of fun. I can actually probably schedule next Sunday's earlier if that's better for you; I went to King Richard's Faire today (dorky pictures to follow) so I wanted to make sure that I got home in time to set stuff up.

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So I think we had a pretty successful viewing!! Straker and Villain were able to make it - HF could hear and see us (and I translated through her texts), and my friend Mike attempted to join in as well.

So this is the first time that I've seen Frankenstein since I was very very young - Here is what stood out to me:


The "Warning" at the beginning of the movie from the "Host" - I had absolutely forgotten about that as being the opener for the movie; I had forgotten about how iconic those kinds of introductions are (makes me think of Simpsons' Tree House of Horror and Rocky Horror Picture Show - I understand no what they're emulating).
The set pieces were phenomenal - From the cemetery at the beginning to the castle; I loved how the director used light and shadow and truly framed each shot.
Colin Clive as Doctor Frankenstein - He really embodied the part. What stood out to me particularly is that he made me think a LOT Jeffrey Combs's Herbert West in Re-Animator (a now obvious parallel) - I was just so struck by Clive; his appearance wan and harried.
The scene with the little girl really moved me; in terms of what I remember from the last time I saw the movie (20+ years ago), that's one of the scenes I remember - And it still moves me now - It's sad (making you realize that he has the mentality of an infant) and it's truly horrifying (realizing that he doesn't have the concept of what it is to be "alive" and how easy it is to snuff out that life).
I also thought the scene with Fritz hanging was especially powerful, as it's our first glimpse into the Monster's strength.
What's also interesting is to look at the true differences between filmmaking then and filmmaking now - The scenes are shorter, and with no score it really does feel sparse. I found myself distracted at times (though, to be fair, it could have been me chatting - I was trying to strike a balance between watching the movie and chatting with folks


I think what I enjoyed most about this movie was the iconic scenes, the direction, and set pieces - I was more interested in these visuals than I was with the dialogue.

I'm super-psyched to watch Bride of Frankenstein, which I haven't seen before.



Frankenweenie is a Tim Burton film; been in my queue a long time.

Watched a little of the opening of Frank Army with a buddy, and he hit the hyperspace button, and I couldn't blame him. Love the concept, but the opening wasn't promising.

Oh, man - The opening really is horrible. But stick with it. Pleeeeeeeeeease. The climax is really what did it for me. SO GREAT.



I have always been a huge Frankenstein fan; in fact, the novel is actually one of my favorites of any genre. I will definitely try to make those viewings, if I am not too busy. I can definitely make the Young Frankenstein one and I will try to make the others. I still have not replaced my Young Frankenstein VHS, so it looks like I will be watching it via VHS. I am not sure how popular it is, but another one I really loved was Curse of Frankenstein (1957). It is classic Hammer and actually one of my favorite Frankenstein adaptations.

I haven't read the novel! I really should. And HF & Villain brought up Curse, too. I'll have to see if I can track that down (either that or Poltergeist, so I can participate in Villian's Viewings too!)

Sorry I'm late! Wasn't expecting to be at my friend's house that long!

I'm watching

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/margie1959/curse_zps7f950bca.jpg (http://s169.photobucket.com/user/margie1959/media/curse_zps7f950bca.jpg.html)

So now I want to hear about Curse of Frankenstein - Please elaborate!

[hammerfan]

Starts when Victor Frankenstein is a young boy, and follows his life with a tutor with whom he conducts his experiments. It's very different from Universal's Frankenstein, but has some similar points (fiancee/wife that the creature goes after). It's always interested me seeing Peter Cushing portray a villain. In Hammer's versions, the good Doctor is definitely a villain, not the sympathetic person in the Universal movies.

[ChronoGrl]

Starts when Victor Frankenstein is a young boy, and follows his life with a tutor with whom he conducts his experiments. It's very different from Universal's Frankenstein, but has some similar points (fiancee/wife that the creature goes after). It's always interested me seeing Peter Cushing portray a villain. In Hammer's versions, the good Doctor is definitely a villain, not the sympathetic person in the Universal movies.

Cool! Interesting to hear the differences in the Monster/Doctor portrayals!

[neverending]

Just saw on FB you said you'd never seen Bride of F, and here you say Young Frank is one of your favorites. Wait till you've watched Bride and then watched Young F again- a lot of the jokes come from Bride... and Son of F as well...

[The Bloofer Lady]

Wasn't able to find full Frankenstein 1931 on YouTube but remember it somewhat. So I chose to watch Teenage Frankenstein 1957. A descendent of Victor Frankenstein's decides to put his theories to test on a modern day teenager. Conveniently, while describing his plans to an associate, a horrific car crash outside his home provides him with his human guinea pig!

Bit of a spoiler ahead. Even though his laboratory is in the basement, there is apparently a basement in the basement where he keeps crocodiles to eat his "leftovers".. ::confused::. All in all, good fun.

[roshiq]

I second Hammer's Curse and also like to recommend its first 4 sequels! Love them all! Cushing owned the part by every means! A year or two ago, I had even a special Hammer's Frankenstein Movie Marathon just before the Halloween....it was a blast!::cool::

[Straker]

Well, I didn't manage to concentrate on the movie to much last night due to some technical issues both with my connection to the room and my inability to multitask successfully, but I'll get to grips with that next time.

One thing I would suggest though is that you add a little Hammer to your watch list, if you can make room. I know that Villain said he hadn't seen any (most?) of the hammer vampire flicks and you (Chrono) haven't seen much hammer either. I think Dracula (1958) aka Horror of Dracula would make a great addition to your marathon. Its one of the benchmarks of the modern vampire genre and as close to essential viewing as almost anything in the horror genre.

Also, the most surreal moment of the evening, for me, was listening to a bunch of Americans, who know way more than me about Dr. Who, gossiping away about David Tennant, and whoever else has taken over the role in recent years..... Anything post Sylvester McCoy goes over my head. ::embarrassment::

[ChronoGrl]

Just saw on FB you said you'd never seen Bride of F, and here you say Young Frank is one of your favorites. Wait till you've watched Bride and then watched Young F again- a lot of the jokes come from Bride... and Son of F as well...

Oh man - I can't wait!



Wasn't able to find full Frankenstein 1931 on YouTube but remember it somewhat. So I chose to watch Teenage Frankenstein 1957. A descendent of Victor Frankenstein's decides to put his theories to test on a modern day teenager. Conveniently, while describing his plans to an associate, a horrific car crash outside his home provides him with his human guinea pig!

Bit of a spoiler ahead. Even though his laboratory is in the basement, there is apparently a basement in the basement where he keeps crocodiles to eat his "leftovers".. ::confused::. All in all, good fun.

hahaha - I haven't even heard of that one... And, what, YOU don't have a basement within a basement for YOUR crocodiles?? ::wink::



I second Hammer's Curse and also like to recommend its first 4 sequels! Love them all! Cushing owned the part by every means! A year or two ago, I had even a special Hammer's Frankenstein Movie Marathon just before the Halloween....it was a blast!::cool::



Well, I didn't manage to concentrate on the movie to much last night due to some technical issues both with my connection to the room and my inability to multitask successfully, but I'll get to grips with that next time.

One thing I would suggest though is that you add a little Hammer to your watch list, if you can make room. I know that Villain said he hadn't seen any (most?) of the hammer vampire flicks and you (Chrono) haven't seen much hammer either. I think Dracula (1958) aka Horror of Dracula would make a great addition to your marathon. Its one of the benchmarks of the modern vampire genre and as close to essential viewing as almost anything in the horror genre.

Also, the most surreal moment of the evening, for me, was listening to a bunch of Americans, who know way more than me about Dr. Who, gossiping away about David Tennant, and whoever else has taken over the role in recent years..... Anything post Sylvester McCoy goes over my head. ::embarrassment::

Yeah, I really should. I'm curious about Curse of Frankenstein and would love to see their Horror of Dracula - I'll see what I can fit in (just sent away for Poltergeist to participate in Villain's thread!!

hahaha - And I assumed all you Brits watched Dr. Who! ::wink::


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OK Folks! Tonight's viewing is the iconic Bride of Frankenstein (1935)

I'll be back here before 8:00 p.m. EST with the Live Chat link (though I will probably be less talky since I haven't seen this one!) - I'm so psyched!

[hammerfan]

Not sure yet which Frankenstein movie I'll be watching. I'll let you know before 8:00!

[metternich1815]

I just want to comment on Curse of Frankenstein, which was a topic of discussion in this thread earlier. I had already discussed it previously, but I just want to say it is my second favorite Frankenstein adaptation after Frankenstein (1931). The characters appeared appropriately complex and it is fascinating to observe the deterioration of the relationship of Dr. Frankenstein and his friend Paul, as well as Dr. Frankenstein more broadly. The thing with Dr. Frankenstein is that he is definitely an immoral character, but it is far from black and white. He really does feel he is doing good and that he will be vindicated. At the same time, he does many horrendous things. There is a certain tragic element to his character. Sadly, the sequels do sort of undo the greatness of the ending, but they are still good nonetheless. The film also includes some really good effects and is in color, a trademark of Hammer films of the period. As alluded to earlier, there are some tremendous performances in this film. Peter Cushing was particularly excellent, but there really are many shining performances. The person who played Paul delivered a good performance as well. Christopher Lee was interesting as the monster, a role he played very differently than the 31 original. The role did not allow him the room to act as later films like Horror of Dracula will, but he still did really well within the confines of his character. Definitely frightening even by today's standards. There really is much more, but that is a good summary of many of the things I enjoyed. In my honest opinion, the film has held up remarkably well and is easily my favorite of the Hammer films. As a historical note, this is the first major Hammer film which re-adapted the films made by Universal Studios.

[hammerfan]

Excellent review, metternich! If I hadn't already seen it, I'd be stoked to watch it!

[Straker]

Don't think I'll make tonight's viewing, the midweek slots are a bit on the late side for me.... Sunday slots are fine for me, so I'll make sure I get to as many of those as possible and hit the odd midweek slot when I can.

Hope you guys watching Bride have a good one, looking forward to see what you guys make of it, one of my favourites.

[hammerfan]

I'll be watching House of Frankenstein (1944)

Deranged scientist, Gustav Niemann (Boris Karloff), escapes from prison and overtakes the director of a traveling chamber of horrors. Pulling the stake out of a skeleton, he revives the infamous Count Dracula (John Carradine) and commands him to kill the man responsible for his imprisonment. He then finds the frozen Frankenstein Monster (Glenn Strange) and the Wolfman (Lon Chaney, Jr.) buried under the ruins of the infamous Frankenstein laboratory. When he brings them back to life, the Monster is uncontrollable and drags him to a watery grave.

[ChronoGrl]

Excellent review, metternich! If I hadn't already seen it, I'd be stoked to watch it!

Agreed and agreed! I really need to grab it from Netflix!

Don't think I'll make tonight's viewing, the midweek slots are a bit on the late side for me.... Sunday slots are fine for me, so I'll make sure I get to as many of those as possible and hit the odd midweek slot when I can.

Hope you guys watching Bride have a good one, looking forward to see what you guys make of it, one of my favourites.

I figured as much - Rest up so you can stay up late with us on Sunday! ::cool::



I'll be watching House of Frankenstein (1944)

Deranged scientist, Gustav Niemann (Boris Karloff), escapes from prison and overtakes the director of a traveling chamber of horrors. Pulling the stake out of a skeleton, he revives the infamous Count Dracula (John Carradine) and commands him to kill the man responsible for his imprisonment. He then finds the frozen Frankenstein Monster (Glenn Strange) and the Wolfman (Lon Chaney, Jr.) buried under the ruins of the infamous Frankenstein laboratory. When he brings them back to life, the Monster is uncontrollable and drags him to a watery grave.

Is this your first time seeing it? I can't believe there are so many Frankenstein movies!!

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OK, Folks! Joined a little earlier this time around - My DVD is primed and ready for 8:00.

I am really excited to watch Bride of Frankenstein - She is just so beautiful, so iconic; I really think this will help round out some of my Frankenstein viewing.


Meeting.io URL for tonight:

http://m1.io/lEekFEGi5Mo

BTW, there seem to be issues if you're watching the movie on your computer and trying to use your mic. Good thing is that the Chat seems to work well.

I'll be putzing around for the next 17 minutes, so don't freak if you see an empty chair!

[hammerfan]

No, not my first time watching it, I own the DVD. ::wink::

I won't be able to text you this time, my phone is charging, and it doesn't reach to the computer. I'll have to chat with you here or on Facebook.


Yep



I wish we were watching the same movie, but you're finding out about new movies to watch

[ChronoGrl]

Yeah... We're watching different movies and people are watching me on the Video Chat WITHOUT REVEALING THEMSELVES>

Creeps. I should charge for this. ::stick out tongue::

[metternich1815]

Yeah... We're watching different movies and people are watching me on the Video Chat WITHOUT REVEALING THEMSELVES>

Creeps. I should charge for this. ::stick out tongue::

That would probably be me...lol. I am having the same issue as hammerfan (in terms of finding the chat button) and I do not have a webcam on this computer.

[ChronoGrl]

That would probably be me...lol. I am having the same issue as hammerfan (in terms of finding the chat button) and I do not have a webcam on this computer.

OH! I feel better then. ::cool::

Can you see the chat box? We can chat after the movie.

[hammerfan]

My nephew was giving me advice on what equipment to buy (webcam and microphone). It's going to have to wait, don't have the money right now.

[metternich1815]

OH! I feel better then. ::cool::

Can you see the chat box? We can chat after the movie.

I do not see a chat box on there.

[hammerfan]

I do not see a chat box on there.

Oh good, it's not just me! ::wink::

[ChronoGrl]

Ugh - That's weird.. And annoying. Sorry, guys! Even on the FAQ it just says:

How do I use the chat?
To use chat, select the chat button on the toolbar underneath your video panel. When you have selected chat, the chat panel will slide up for you to use. You will be able to chat with all other users in the room.

::sad::

[metternich1815]

I'll be watching House of Frankenstein (1944)

Deranged scientist, Gustav Niemann (Boris Karloff), escapes from prison and overtakes the director of a traveling chamber of horrors. Pulling the stake out of a skeleton, he revives the infamous Count Dracula (John Carradine) and commands him to kill the man responsible for his imprisonment. He then finds the frozen Frankenstein Monster (Glenn Strange) and the Wolfman (Lon Chaney, Jr.) buried under the ruins of the infamous Frankenstein laboratory. When he brings them back to life, the Monster is uncontrollable and drags him to a watery grave.

An interesting sidenote, I actually just purchased the Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (which I already own as part of my Universal Legacy Wolf Man collection) and House of Frankenstein double feature over this past weekend. Hope to get it sometime this week. One thing I do not like about the Universal DVD releases are that they are all full screen. It's not too bad, I just am not a big fan of the bars on the side, though you adjust to it after a short while.

[ChronoGrl]

Guys. Would you kill me if I said I thought the end was abrupt and slightly disappointing? ::embarrassment::

[metternich1815]

I can see that, but I am not sure where else they could take it. In some ways, there is a certain brilliance to that because it is so unexpected. Like you mentioned elsewhere, the film is named "Bride of Frankenstein", yet the bride is only a very minor character. Interestingly, James Whale, the director of the film, was actually openly homosexual (a rare thing back then). Some have suggested that plays into the idea of the bride rejecting the monster. There is definitely some complexity to that particular scene. On a related note, while this was probably not something that Whale directly intended, one thing that the film had me thinking about was in relation to mental illness. Often, individuals are shunned and the like because society does not understand them. As an openly homosexual individual, I am sure that Whale can understand that. In fact, many people then actually regarded that as a mental illness and for many years it was treated as such (this finally began to change in the 1970s). In the same way, the monster is simply misunderstood. When he is actually treated like a normal person, he is able to develop sufficiently. There is little doubt that rejection is an important element to the film that Whale clearly intended, even if he did not directly intend the meaning I got out of the film. Of course, there are many other fascinating themes throughout the film. Religion is a recurring theme. There are many religious objects and other references (such as the "archbishop"). Definitely a complex and multi-layered film. By the way, the name you were looking for was Peter Cushing.

[neverending]

An interesting sidenote, I actually just purchased the Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (which I already own as part of my Universal Legacy Wolf Man collection) and House of Frankenstein double feature over this past weekend. Hope to get it sometime this week. One thing I do not like about the Universal DVD releases are that they are all full screen. It's not too bad, I just am not a big fan of the bars on the side, though you adjust to it after a short while.

You realize, of course, that this is the original aspect ratio of the films. Correct?


Guys. Would you kill me if I said I thought the end was abrupt and slightly disappointing? ::embarrassment::

I'd think about it.

[metternich1815]

You realize, of course, that this is the original aspect ratio of the films. Correct?

I just want the film to fit my screen. I am not very knowledgeable from a technical standpoint.

[neverending]

I just want the film to fit my screen. I am not very knowledgeable from a technical standpoint.


So, you'd want them to chop off the top and bottom of the picture to make the film conform to modern screen size?

I'd rather see the whole picture.

[metternich1815]

So, you'd want them to chop off the top and bottom of the picture to make the film conform to modern screen size?

I'd rather see the whole picture.


Can't they show the whole picture and make it fit modern screens. If not, then, yes, I agree I would prefer to see the whole picture. I would just deal with the bars on the side.

[Damn Heathen]

I was able to watch only the first half today. It is more humorous than remembered. Love the Franken-slap.

[ChronoGrl]

metternich1815 - That's a fascinating analysis. I actually feel really ignorant for my comment because, honestly, it's the perfect ending-

If we're thinking about rejected for being considered a "Monster" and you're presented with something (someone) who is very much LIKE you but hasn't been tainted through society - That person is horrified of you - It's a perfect but very sad ending. The rejection absolutely had to happen.

I love the reading that he is being rejected by Heterosexual Love as well...

It sounds really simple to say "Well, it's called The Bride of Frankenstein," but that wasn't necessarily the crux of my disappointment - We get so much character development from him in this movie that I was just hoping to deconstruct her further -

But like most other characters in the film, she is mostly there to reject him (I understand it; as a female horror fan, I would have liked to see more of her as the second abomination)...


A few other notes that I took...

I loved the "meta" beginning with Shelley, Byron, and Shelley - That was absolutely unexpected and setting it up as a tale within a tale added another element of grotesque fantasy to it - I was also very interested in the portrayal of Mary, who was both grotesque but also, ultimately weak (needing to be held up, much like the Bride).
I loved that this movie had comedy in it
And I loved the religious imagery; when they literally tie The Monster to a cross... That was truly disturbing.
Also - The concept of this other Mad Doctor 'growing' people - I wanted to explore that a bit more, especially the microcosm of Beauty (the Queen), Lust (the King), Guilt/Abstinence/Fascism (The Archbishop), and The Devil - It was interesting that he put aside the miracle of GROWING life for the twisted science of "reanimating" life
The conversation of what is "Good" and what is "Bad" is an interesting commentary on the false dichotomy of Dualism (just as the Doctors are trying to create the Yin to his Yang, it's impossible; there isn't just black and white or right and wrong)
Definitely very very layered; I think I'd need to watch it again before analyzing it further.

Just the rant at the top of my head - I needed to compose my thoughts and say farewell to my friend before returning.

Also - This was definitely an interesting experience; keeping the video feed on, even though you and HF couldn't really participate, but could obviously hear (and see?) us - Made me think about people who post movie reactions to YouTube; was that what the experience was like for you? Watching us react to the movie?

I was hoping for more interactive dialogue and am totally bummed that technology thwarted us BUT I like that we were able to interact, even if it's delayed.

Also - I really wish your microphone worked so that you could school us on Hammer Films! I think I made a comment of, "If they can hear me, they're probably yelling at the screen..." ::wink::

[Damn Heathen]

So far, I've found the main themes (the pathologization and rejection of the abnormal) and symbolism (of religion) rather generic (though, the portentous owl bit is hilarious). From memory, it is not until the end that a new more important theme emerges.

[ChronoGrl]

So far, I've found the main themes (the pathologization and rejection of the abnormal) and symbolism (of religion) rather generic (though, the portentous owl bit is hilarious). From memory, it is not until the end that a new more important theme emerges.

Ooo. Looking forward to the rest of your analysis!

[metternich1815]

metternich1815 - That's a fascinating analysis. I actually feel really ignorant for my comment because, honestly, it's the perfect ending-

If we're thinking about rejected for being considered a "Monster" and you're presented with something (someone) who is very much LIKE you but hasn't been tainted through society - That person is horrified of you - It's a perfect but very sad ending. The rejection absolutely had to happen.

I love the reading that he is being rejected by Heterosexual Love as well...

It sounds really simple to say "Well, it's called The Bride of Frankenstein," but that wasn't necessarily the crux of my disappointment - We get so much character development from him in this movie that I was just hoping to deconstruct her further -

But like most other characters in the film, she is mostly there to reject him (I understand it; as a female horror fan, I would have liked to see more of her as the second abomination)...


A few other notes that I took...

I loved the "meta" beginning with Shelley, Byron, and Shelley - That was absolutely unexpected and setting it up as a tale within a tale added another element of grotesque fantasy to it - I was also very interested in the portrayal of Mary, who was both grotesque but also, ultimately weak (needing to be held up, much like the Bride).
I loved that this movie had comedy in it
And I loved the religious imagery; when they literally tie The Monster to a cross... That was truly disturbing.
Also - The concept of this other Mad Doctor 'growing' people - I wanted to explore that a bit more, especially the microcosm of Beauty (the Queen), Lust (the King), Guilt/Abstinence/Fascism (The Archbishop), and The Devil - It was interesting that he put aside the miracle of GROWING life for the twisted science of "reanimating" life
The conversation of what is "Good" and what is "Bad" is an interesting commentary on the false dichotomy of Dualism (just as the Doctors are trying to create the Yin to his Yang, it's impossible; there isn't just black and white or right and wrong)
Definitely very very layered; I think I'd need to watch it again before analyzing it further.

Just the rant at the top of my head - I needed to compose my thoughts and say farewell to my friend before returning.

Also - This was definitely an interesting experience; keeping the video feed on, even though you and HF couldn't really participate, but could obviously hear (and see?) us - Made me think about people who post movie reactions to YouTube; was that what the experience was like for you? Watching us react to the movie?

I was hoping for more interactive dialogue and am totally bummed that technology thwarted us BUT I like that we were able to interact, even if it's delayed.

Also - I really wish your microphone worked so that you could school us on Hammer Films! I think I made a comment of, "If they can hear me, they're probably yelling at the screen..." ::wink::

Yes, it really is a brilliant ending which parallels the idea of rejection. Also, the scene has a certain classical feeling to it. It reminds me of the classical tragedies of Greece where the heroes sacrifice themselves in the name of love. In this case, the "monster" believes it better that both of their lives end, so that the "bride" should not have to endure the rejection he has experienced. An interesting reaction considering that he, himself, was rejected by her. If you think about it the film, more generally possess a tragic element. The monster only wishes to be treated normally, but is hated and denounced and there are a number of negative things that occur that only feed into the villager's mistaken idea like when the blind man's house was burned down.

Yes, I have always enjoyed that beginning, though it is interesting that they do not return to it, it sort of reminds of a play by Shakespeare known as the Taming of the Shrew. In that play, there is something known as the Induction where the character of Christopher Sly is convinced he is a lord when he is really a peasant. He then adopts the role, while everyone around carries that idea on and treat him as such (a prank devised by an actual lord). Sly then is convinced to attend a play, which is called the Taming of the Shrew (sort of a play within a play). Sadly though, the play does not really return to that particular subplot. In the same way, Bride of Frankenstein introduces that as a way to introduce the film, but does not really explore that more fully. Granted, to add that at the end would sort of destroy the brilliance of the ending, so perhaps that is for the better. I just feel like more could have been done on that front, maybe I am way off on that.

Yes, the religious themes were of particular note and it is interesting to see that particular allusion. In fact, I suppose the ending could also be seen as a religious allusion. The "monster" is sort of a Christ-like figure. He has been hated and abused and at the end decides to sacrifice himself for what he considers the greater good. Also, the idea of creating a monster and a female for him is definitely a parallel to the Christian story of Adam and Eve. The film is clearly exploring the idea of man playing God and in both cases it does not work out as well as was planned (though I am sure there is some disagreement on this from a Christian theological standpoint). I am sure there are many other religious explorations, but those are some off the top of my head.

That is an interesting analysis of that particular scene. I had always not known what to make of that particular scene. There is a definite surreal aspect to the scene. It is interesting that the archbishop has a particular role, but yet fails to truly fulfill it. In much the same way, the Catholic Church had supported the regime of Adolf Hitler in the same period. I doubt that that is what Whale intended as he does not possess the knowledge that we do, but that is what it reminded me of. There is definitely alot more to that scene. I definitely need to watch it again and pay very close attention to it, so I can get a better understanding of it. As is common in films of this nature, there was definitely alot of exploration of the idea of the old order. In this case, we see the secular and religious structures as manifested by the king, queen, and archbishop. We also see the religious objects previously discussed. One scene that I was thinking about in particular was the one where the "monster" topples the statue of the archbishop or whatever it was. I wonder if that symbolized the idea of the end of the old order. The Dr. (can't think of his name) also referenced the idea of them being burned at the stake as wizards. Another reference to the old order. I cannot help to think that this is an intentional reference by Whale.

Yes, I agree. That is definitely an important theme of this film. The villagers often see things such as the "monster" as black and white. When, in reality, things are far more complicated than that.

Another thing I would like to bring up briefly is the idea of the blind man. I think that is a particularly intriguing scene. As discussed previously, what the monster wants more than anything is to be be accepted. In the case of the blind man, he cannot judge the "monster" on outward appearances. As such, they develop a good, if brief, friendship. During that period, the "monster" clearly develops his cognitive abilities. This will be further enhanced when he is employed as an equal by that doctor. I just found that whole idea fascinating. It is interesting to see how this film is still so relevant to this day, even if not in the same way as was originally intended. There is definitely a great deal of complexity and nuance. In my opinion, this film was significantly better in terms of character development as compared to the original 1931 film. This is not to take away from that film, it is just to comment on the richness of this film. Of course, this is primarily true of the "monster". Though there are certainly other characters that were not fully developed. I would have liked to have seen more development of Henry Frankenstein in particular and, of course, we already noted the female "monster."

Yes, that was what it was like. It was a little strange, but then again I am not all that familiar with telepresence and related technologies. I really wish the site would have had the chat feature as it states it does. I would love to have chatted in that way while the film was ongoing. Still, I think we have had a good conversation here though. Yes, I am sure between me and hammerfan, we could have really been useful in that regard. The Hammer films are quite good, by the way. I have seen quite a number. I really want to reiterate Curse of Frankenstein. Like Bride, that film is very complex and nuanced. That is what I love about it. The only time I was yelling at the screen was when you could not think of Cushing's name...lol.

So far, I've found the main themes (the pathologization and rejection of the abnormal) and symbolism (of religion) rather generic (though, the portentous owl bit is hilarious). From memory, it is not until the end that a new more important theme emerges.

I am not sure exactly what you mean by generic, so I cannot really comment on your statement. Personally, I thought those themes were very well explored in a very novel way. I am curious, what theme in particular?

[Damn Heathen]

I am not sure exactly what you mean by generic, so I cannot really comment on your statement. Personally, I thought those themes were very well explored in a very novel way. I am curious, what theme in particular?These themes and symbols are and were overdone, even back then (not that being generic is necessarily bad). The new theme, again from memory, involves the battle within the realm of science and the frequent partial reliance (in method or theory) of new science on old/rejected science.

[metternich1815]

These themes and symbols are and were overdone, even back then (not that being generic is necessarily bad). The new theme, again from memory, involves the battle within the realm of science and the frequent partial reliance (in method or theory) of new science on old/rejected science.

Yes, they are common themes, but it is all in how they are explored that matters. In my opinion, the film explored them in a very novel way that really adds to the body that already exists. I definitely agree that this film deserves its iconic status. There is so much in this film and several ways it can be interpreted. Yes, I agree that was an important theme of the film. It was a very excellent one an that. That goes into what I mentioned about the old versus new order.

[neverending]

So far, I've found the main themes (the pathologization and rejection of the abnormal) and symbolism (of religion) rather generic (though, the portentous owl bit is hilarious). From memory, it is not until the end that a new more important theme emerges.

Bollox. Save us from hipster cynicism.


Can't they show the whole picture and make it fit modern screens. If not, then, yes, I agree I would prefer to see the whole picture. I would just deal with the bars on the side.

A film is not made of silly putty, you know. You can't stretch it or compress it at will. Any time you see a movie filmed in the old aspect ratio of 1.33:1 on a wide screen and there are no stripes along the sides, then the image has been cropped on the top and bottom.
Any time you see a wide screen movie shown on an old set and it doesn't have dark bands at the top and bottom, it's been cropped on the sides.

That's the only way to do it. There's no magic way to refilm old movies.

[Damn Heathen]

Bollox. Save us from hipster cynicism.There's nothing cynical about it. It's a fact of science.

Yes, they are common themes, but it is all in how they are explored that matters. In my opinion, the film explored them in a very novel way that really adds to the body that already exists. I definitely agree that this film deserves its iconic status. There is so much in this film and several ways it can be interpreted. Yes, I agree that was an important theme of the film. It was a very excellent one an that. That goes into what I mentioned about the old versus new order.Sorry, I haven't fully read the earlier posts, but I'll browse them after I finish the movie.

[neverending]

There's nothing cynical about it. It's a fact of science.
.


Whether the themes presented in Bride of Frankenstein are "overdone" or "generic" is not a fact of science.

[Damn Heathen]

I like the irony of the monster making his jailbreak on the proclamation of it being a resolved minor problem.
Whether the themes presented in Bride of Frankenstein are "overdone" or "generic" is not a fact of science.
I see you dislike science. Take a gander at the predominant themes in literature and film since the dawn of literature and film.

[neverending]

I like the irony of the monster making his jailbreak on the proclamation of it being a resolved minor problem.

I see you dislike science. Take a gander at the predominant themes in literature and film since the dawn of literature and film.


HAHAHAHAHAHA... what a silly lot of twaddle.

[Damn Heathen]

HAHAHAHAHAHA... what a silly lot of twaddle.I'm being trolled by a mod. That's rich. ::big grin::

[neverending]

I'm being trolled by a mod. That's rich. ::big grin::


Yes, there's a troll about, indeed...

I point out your cynical and hipsterish attitude about a film that has been lauded by many as not only one of the greatest horror films ever made, but one of the best films ever made, and for that I am told I hate science and I've never read a book in my life.

And I'M the one who's trolling?


Sorry for the hijack, Chrono...

[Damn Heathen]

I have finished my viewing and give Bride a 10/10 on its merits of pre-climax narrative, conclusive theme, horror aesthetic, and stellar performances.

I do have a few quibbles, some of which were previously discussed, but nothing that would warrant a point deduction. Although the lever of doom ending is narratively weak, it has tremendous cinematic appeal, and as the primary goal of a movie is to be VISUALLY interesting, it works well.

Yes, they are common themes, but it is all in how they are explored that matters. In my opinion, the film explored them in a very novel way that really adds to the body that already exists. I definitely agree that this film deserves its iconic status. There is so much in this film and several ways it can be interpreted. Yes, I agree that was an important theme of the film. It was a very excellent one an that. That goes into what I mentioned about the old versus new order.
Some of these themes cinematically predate Bride. I must rewatch Metropolis to determine how much it influenced Bride.

Yes, I have always enjoyed that beginning, though it is interesting that they do not return to it, it sort of reminds of a play by Shakespeare known as the Taming of the Shrew.I wish they had used the bookend, with a less subtle meta-comparison between Mary and the Bride.

But like most other characters in the film, she is mostly there to reject him (I understand it; as a female horror fan, I would have liked to see more of her as the second abomination)...
Great point. She is merely there to reject him (and die), as she should be. Honestly, I expected more backlash from the "OMG I need oodles of characterization or I can't relate" crowd. ::big grin::

[newb]

Missed both....been a bit under the weather since Sunday

Will try to hop on next one

[hammerfan]

Missed both....been a bit under the weather since Sunday

Will try to hop on next one

Sorry to hear you've been sick. Hope you're better soon!

[metternich1815]

I decided to watch Son of Frankenstein tonight in preparation for tomorrow. I had seen it before, but it's been awhile. I will also try to watch Frankenstein as well (that I have seen several times, but I missed Sunday's viewing). I might end up re-watching Bride before the film tomorrow too, not sure.

[metternich1815]

I decided in favor of one I have not seen in the place of the original Frankenstein. The film I chose was Ghost of Frankenstein. I will try to fit in House of Frankenstein tomorrow, I have never seen that one either. As time permits, I will see which ones, if any, I will rewatch. I get home around 2:15-2:30 CST, so I will just see where I feel like going.

[DrFrankensteinsGirl]

Sorry I've totally missed the first 2 movies but my sister-in-law just had her baby so its been a little crazy around here lately. I'm going to try and be available for today because I love Young Frankenstein so hard core.

[ChronoGrl]

I have finished my viewing and give Bride a 10/10 on its merits of pre-climax narrative, conclusive theme, horror aesthetic, and stellar performances.

I do have a few quibbles, some of which were previously discussed, but nothing that would warrant a point deduction. Although the lever of doom ending is narratively weak, it has tremendous cinematic appeal, and as the primary goal of a movie is to be VISUALLY interesting, it works well.


Some of these themes cinematically predate Bride. I must rewatch Metropolis to determine how much it influenced Bride.

I wish they had used the bookend, with a less subtle meta-comparison between Mary and the Bride.


Great point. She is merely there to reject him (and die), as she should be. Honestly, I expected more backlash from the "OMG I need oodles of characterization or I can't relate" crowd. ::big grin::

I've been thinking about this a lot on my commute this morning, especially the latter point about the Bride's role in the film - I'll comment more once I can organize my thoughts and have a break from work.

I already know that I am going to watch the film again; I need to put some space between the previous viewing.



Missed both....been a bit under the weather since Sunday

Will try to hop on next one

Bummer! Pneumonia seems to be making the rounds - Suffered through it the last couple of weeks... Hope you're on the mend!



I decided to watch Son of Frankenstein tonight in preparation for tomorrow. I had seen it before, but it's been awhile. I will also try to watch Frankenstein as well (that I have seen several times, but I missed Sunday's viewing). I might end up re-watching Bride before the film tomorrow too, not sure.

Tell me about Son of Frankenstein - I'm honestly curious; is this a franchise that can hold up so many sequels?



Sorry I've totally missed the first 2 movies but my sister-in-law just had her baby so its been a little crazy around here lately. I'm going to try and be available for today because I love Young Frankenstein so hard core.

Well congrats to your SIL!!

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OK Fellow Fiends - I'm pretty psyched about tonight's viewing...


YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN (1974)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Chronogrl/yf_zpsc5b60580.jpg

Why did I pick this movie?

Despite it being an obvious and incredibly entertaining choice, the fact is - It's been a REALLY long time since I've seen it. And I am really interested to view it so closely to having seen Frankenstein and Bride. I'm especially excited that I'll be able to understand more of the Bride callbacks with this viewing.


SPEAKING of Frankenstein-related comedies - How many others can you name and are they worth watching?


The showing is at 8:00p.m. EST - I'll log on prior to post the link to meetings.io.

Hope to "see" you then!

[hammerfan]

The first one that comes immediately to mind is Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein. Hilarious! And, you also get Dracula and the Wolf Man! I highly recommend it.

BTW, I don't think I'm going to be able to make it tonight, sorry.

[metternich1815]

Tell me about Son of Frankenstein - I'm honestly curious; is this a franchise that can hold up so many sequels?

*Possible Spoilers*

I briefly described my thoughts in the vintage thread, but, yes, I really enjoyed it. The basic plot is that Frankenstein's son comes to Frankenstein's castle, I did not catch why, but does not really intend to continue his father's work. He believes that what his father did was good, but that certain circumstances resulted in the infamous disaster. Though, he does add that he believes the stories are greatly exaggerated. As you would expect, he does end up continuing his father's work by reviving the monster. Much of the rest of the film is chacterized by his interaction with Igor and the monster, as well as the Inspector. Ultimately, culminating in the destruction of the monster. I know some of it sounds a little standard, but it really isn't. The story is really interesting and it definitely takes the series in a fascinating direction. Even though the whole "son of" plot may sound cliché, it really is done quite well. I was captivated from beginning to end. One of the strongest reasons for this captivation is the strong characters. While they are all well done, particular note must be given to Bela Lugosi as Ygor. In fact, that whole sub-plot was quite brilliant. In my personal opinion, the film did not have the depth that the original or Bride had, but it was a solid sequel. As neverending said on the vintage thread, the first three films form a very strong and high-quality trilogy, which the later ones just never matched. I have not seen House of Frankenstein yet, but from the Frankenstein films I have seen, I would have to agree, though I know Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man was not bad. In truth, while the later films may not match the original three, they are all worth a watch.

As a seperate note, on that vintage thread I mentioned, hammerfan said she would post her review of the film later in case you were interested.

[hammerfan]

I'm really not as good as the rest of you at putting my thoughts in writing. A big draw from me that everyone leaves out is the fact that Basil Rathbone plays Wolf Frankenstein. I've always loved his work, and feel that he does some of his best in this movie. Yes, Bela Lugosi is great, too. The little boy (Wolf's son) is a hoot.

Yeah, that's all I have. Otherwise, I'd be repeating what neverending and metternich have said.

[neverending]

Ygor is one of my favorite Lugosi portrayals. He's so sly and conniving. And hammerfan is right- Rathbone is great as Wolf von Frankenstein. The iconic battle of wits/game of darts scene between he and Inspector Krogh is masterfully parodied by Brooks in Young Frankenstein.

Let me add that Inspector Krogh, played by Lionell Atwill, a B-level horror icon, is a fascinating character. His backstory leads to a pivotal moment in the film that I won't spoil....

[ChronoGrl]

OK Horror Fiends!

I'm getting ready for Frankenstein Viewing #3:

YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN

This is a movie that my parents have always loved and quoted incessantly when I was younger, so this also has very fond memories for me...

Here's the meetings.io link:

m1.io/3nnsyhjY1iK

I'll probably be putzing around so if you see an empty chair for a tick, I'll be right back!

[horcrux2007]

OK Horror Fiends!

I'm getting ready for Frankenstein Viewing #3:

YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN

This is a movie that my parents have always loved and quoted incessantly when I was younger, so this also has very fond memories for me...

Here's the meetings.io link:

m1.io/3nnsyhjY1iK

I'll probably be putzing around so if you see an empty chair for a tick, I'll be right back!

Oh my god, my childhood (up to this point) was that movie. It was one of the first movies I ever saw.

[metternich1815]

Looks like I lost you ChronoGrl...lol.

[ChronoGrl]

Yeah... Internet died on my laptop... Troubleshooting now...

[ChronoGrl]

Back in! I blame Xfinity. Just pushed PLAY - Sorry for the delay!!

[newb]

Room does not exist!

The current room you are looking for does not exist.

Please check your url and try again..

[neverending]

Tried to login, but the system got hungup on flash player settings- it refused to believe I don't have a webcam or mic.

On top of that, the sound was way overamped, and whoever was "ST. Louis" typing on his keyboard sounded like a thunderstorm played triple time.

On top of that, I misunderstood it was one of those video chats like Jen ran a few years ago that broadcast the movie as well. Since I don't have the movie..

One top of that, I didn't have the buttons on the bottom for typing chat either.

So, faced with the prospect of listening to a couple people watch a movie I'm not watching, sound echoing and feeding back, while I can't participate in any way, I bailed.

[ChronoGrl]

Room does not exist!

The current room you are looking for does not exist.

Please check your url and try again..

Maybe try this?

http://m1.io/3nnsyhjY1iK



Tried to login, but the system got hungup on flash player settings- it refused to believe I don't have a webcam or mic.

On top of that, the sound was way overamped, and whoever was "ST. Louis" typing on his keyboard sounded like a thunderstorm played triple time.

On top of that, I misunderstood it was one of those video chats like Jen ran a few years ago that broadcast the movie as well. Since I don't have the movie..

One top of that, I didn't have the buttons on the bottom for typing chat either.

So, faced with the prospect of listening to a couple people watch a movie I'm not watching, sound echoing and feeding back, while I can't participate in any way, I bailed.

Sorry for the trouble and that I'm not as sophisticated as Jen. ::sad::

I don't understand the issue with the chat; maybe I could find a different site for the next viewing!

[metternich1815]

On top of that, the sound was way overamped, and whoever was "ST. Louis" typing on his keyboard sounded like a thunderstorm played triple time.

St. Louis would be me, not sure why typing was loud, I am on a laptop.

[newb]

Maybe try this?

http://m1.io/3nnsyhjY1iK





Sorry for the trouble and that I'm not as sophisticated as Jen. ::sad::

I don't understand the issue with the chat; maybe I could find a different site for the next viewing!

already tried that from your facebook page

must be some firewall issue on my comp.

will tinker a bit

[ChronoGrl]

already tried that from your facebook page

must be some firewall issue on my comp.

will tinker a bit

"Firewall"?? Then how do you access all your porn??

[newb]

"Firewall"?? Then how do you access all your porn??

ha

this is what the help says:

You may have a firewall that's blocking your connection to the meeting.

Please check your firewall settings and unsure that your UDP ports are not blocked.
Meetings.io runs on a pure P2P (peer to peer) architecture meaning you connect directly to your meeting peers from your computer to theirs. For direct P2P connections to work you need to enable UDP such that a connection can be made directly with your peers.

it may as well be in French

[ChronoGrl]

ha

this is what the help says:

You may have a firewall that's blocking your connection to the meeting.

Please check your firewall settings and unsure that your UDP ports are not blocked.
Meetings.io runs on a pure P2P (peer to peer) architecture meaning you connect directly to your meeting peers from your computer to theirs. For direct P2P connections to work you need to enable UDP such that a connection can be made directly with your peers.

it may as well be in French

buhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[ChronoGrl]

...

Well Young Frankenstein was a LOT of fun - At my place I was joined by the hubby and another couple and online we were joined by metternich1815...

A few notes before I crash...

WOW I had forgotten how incredibly brilliantly funny Marty Feldman & Gene Wilder are, everything from broad physical humor to the one-liners. The movie is so incredibly tight - Even with how Wilder, Feldman, and Gar crowd together in mock gravity scene over scene...
I could watch this on must and still guffaw with the mugs that Feldman makes!
I never really 'got' the humor to the Inspector, but metternich1815 explained that that's more of a nod to Son of Frankenstein, which I've never seen. I don't find him very funny, to be honest, but would probably appreciate it more if I had seen the original mold.
Madeline Kahn and Gar are also brilliant. Every word and line delivered perfectly. They must have had a BLAST on that set.

Oh, and this:

w1FLZPFI3jc

OMG.

So.

Many.

Funny.

Scenes.


What's your favorite?

Also - Has anyone else seen Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother with Feldman and Wilder? I'm going to have to watch it again.

I think that my only complaint is that it does run a bit long in the middle (I can't even identify specific scenes, but I think that it could have been a bit shorter).

However, still holds up and still is brilliant.

Looking forward to hear your thoughts on this movie and other Frankenstein films!

[horcrux2007]

"Put.... the candle... back! "

[neverending]

Ygor is one of my favorite Lugosi portrayals. He's so sly and conniving. And hammerfan is right- Rathbone is great as Wolf von Frankenstein. The iconic battle of wits/game of darts scene between he and Inspector Krogh is masterfully parodied by Brooks in Young Frankenstein.

Let me add that Inspector Krogh, played by Lionell Atwill, a B-level horror icon, is a fascinating character. His backstory leads to a pivotal moment in the film that I won't spoil....





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I never really 'got' the humor to the Inspector, but metternich1815 explained that that's more of a nod to Son of Frankenstein, which I've never seen. I don't find him very funny, to be honest, but would probably appreciate it more if I had seen the original mold.




::sad::

Also, you need to put the Inspector in perspective of Kenneth Mars' performances in all Mel Brooks' films. In every single one he has some weird accent and in this one he's pretty much unintelligible.


Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother is a funny film, but brilliant is not a word I would use to describe it.

[Straker]

Absolutely love Young Frankenstein, really disappointed to have missed this viewing with you guys.... Mel Brooks, Gene Wilder et al. are a bit of an acquired taste over here, with plenty of my friends over the years really not fans of Brooks' work.

As for Kenneth Mars that's what he does and I guess you either like it or can do without it. I think he's great though, in a film filled with great performances he still manages to do his thing. And his performance in The Producers is unforgettable. He went on to have a pretty solid career in voice work and I thought he was great in Malcolm in the Middle playing the German Hotel owner, stealing every scene he's in with his ridiculous style.

The Puttin' on the Ritz scene might be one of my favourites in any comedy, ever. Perfection.

[neverending]

Absolutely love Young Frankenstein, really disappointed to have missed this viewing with you guys.... Mel Brooks, Gene Wilder et al. are a bit of an acquired taste over here, with plenty of my friends over the years really not fans of Brooks' work.
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He's hit or miss for me. He had a period where he made 4 or 5 of the funniest films ever made, and then, after that, a sharp decline.

[metternich1815]

I am a big Mel Brooks fan myself. I am sure some people will disagree, but I absolutely loved Dracula: Dead and Loving it. I thought it was downright hilarious. As for my favorite scene, that is a hard one. I loved the scene when Elizabeth comes to the castle, the one with the hand after the cemetery is another one, the darts scene with the inspector, the putting on the Ritz scene. Honestly, almost the entire film.

[newb]

High Anxiety

a very funny tribute to Alfred Hitchcock

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[ChronoGrl]

Mel Brooks definitely runs hot and cold for me too... Spaceballs, for example, I think the parts are greater than its whole (the Alien scene being amazing)... History of the World I really don't think is that great with the exception of The Inquisition musical (mwahahaha) and the fake trailers (HITLER ON ICE!!) - I remember loving Silent Movie when I was little and I REALLY need to see High Anxiety.

Back to the topic of Frankenstein movies... Question for you folks... Do you consider The Golem tale and movies to be analogous to the Frankenstein mythos? What makes me think about it is mainly the Monster being the downfall of the Creator, so maybe that's too simplistic...

[The Villain]

Finally finished Bride of Frankenstein. I loved it. Not as much as the original as i prefer a good old fashioned monster story but there was so much more story in this one. There was a lot of depth to the monster's character and even though i didn't like the fact that he talked, the humanization of his character was a smart move to make. The bride was fantastic and i liked that she wasn't a major character and instead was the focal point of the film and they built up the suspense over her being made and the monster having a mate only to have it ultimately end up the way it did. Fantastic ending and a well done movie all throughout.

9/10

[neverending]

Mel Brooks definitely runs hot and cold for me too... Spaceballs, for example, I think the parts are greater than its whole (the Alien scene being amazing)... History of the World I really don't think is that great with the exception of The Inquisition musical (mwahahaha) and the fake trailers (HITLER ON ICE!!) - I remember loving Silent Movie when I was little and I REALLY need to see High Anxiety.

Back to the topic of Frankenstein movies... Question for you folks... Do you consider The Golem tale and movies to be analogous to the Frankenstein mythos? What makes me think about it is mainly the Monster being the downfall of the Creator, so maybe that's too simplistic...


Yah, The Golem is pretty similar to Frankenstein.

[neverending]

Yah, The Golem is pretty similar to Frankenstein.


Wow- that was insightful wasn't it?


It's Sunday night. I'm tired.::roll eyes::

[ChronoGrl]

Wow- that was insightful wasn't it?


It's Sunday night. I'm tired.::roll eyes::

LOL! I was thinking the same thing. ::stick out tongue::

[ChronoGrl]

Can someone help me with this? Is it Son of Frankenstein?

http://horror.com/forum/showpost.php?p=978739&postcount=1747

So I have an image from a horror movie... It's black and white involving a hairy tattooed arm - What made me think about it was Young Frankenstein so this could be a Frankenstein movie - If it's a Frankenstein movie, the scene I'm thinking of is that the Monster was destroyed but the Doctor transplanted the Monster's arm to himself?

What I vividly remember is someone washing his hands and he now has a tattooed arm, and I THINK it's implied that he transplanted it from somewhere (this is where I assume it's a Frankenstein movie - Maybe he took it from the Monster?)

[hammerfan]

I can tell you it's not Son of Frankenstein. As for what movie it is, no clue. Sorry! Maybe one of the Hammer Frankenstein movies?