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ozzy554
03-31-2014, 11:34 AM
Almost every movie series has at least one movie sequel you wish did not exist. Here are some of mine.

The exorcist II - the heretic
Halloween Resurrection
Hellraiser Deader/Hellworld/Revelations
Jason takes Manhattan, Jason goes to hell
Freddy's dead the final nightmare
Scream 3
The Toxic Avenger 3
Alien Resurrection
Zombie 4/5 (although I question the legitimacy of these sequels)
Return of the living dead necropolis/Rave to the grave
Seed of chucky
Halloween 5
Curse of the puppet master
Silent night deadly night 3 (2 was at least fun, I found this one boring)

The Villain
03-31-2014, 12:41 PM
Scream 4
Freddy's Dead
Jason Goes To Hell
Halloween Resurrection
Every Child's Play after the third
The Leprechaun in The Hood movies
The new Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie
Alien 3 and Resurrection
Tremors 3 and 4

totem
03-31-2014, 01:34 PM
Alien 3

Alien [1979] was brilliant & original. I mean, who'd ever seen an alien-horror flick like that before?

Then Aliens [1986] was an incredible sequel - equally brilliant & original. Aliens [1986] had me ramped up for the next installment in the Alien series as much as Empire Strikes Back [1980] did for Star Wars.

But then Alien 3 [1992], not unlike Return of the Jedi [1983], not unlike learning there really was no Santa Clause showed me the magic was gone. ::sad::

Oh, on its own merits, Alien 3 is probably ok as a movie. But it's never shaken the stigma of being the film that violated me with the knowledge that the Alien franchise was forever done being innovative.

When the two prisoners run into each other & fall down frightened in that "You thought I was the alien? Ha ha - I thought you were the alien!" scene ::mad::... oh the cinemanity! (ooo I hope that isn't taken I just thought of it! ::embarrassment::)

Like Yoda with Luke's X-Wing, my hope is that Prometheus [2012] & its remaining installments will elevate the franchise out of the one-note cliche swamp it's sunken into.

Sculpt
03-31-2014, 01:40 PM
Almost every movie series has at least one movie sequel you wish did not exist. Here are some of mine.

Halloween Resurrection
Hellraiser Deader/Hellworld/Revelations
Jason takes Manhattan, Jason goes to hell
Freddy's dead the final nightmare
Scream 3
The Toxic Avenger 3
Alien Resurrection
Zombie 4/5 (although I question the legitimacy of these sequels)
Return of the living dead necropolis/Rave to the grave
Seed of chucky
Halloween 5
Curse of the puppet master
Silent night deadly night 3 (2 was at least fun, I found this one boring)

Scream 4
Freddy's Dead
Jason Goes To Hell
Halloween Resurrection
Every Child's Play after the third
The Leprechaun in The Hood movies
The new Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie
Alien 3 and Resurrection
Tremors 3 and 4
You guys didn't enjoy Alien Resurrection even a bit? Alien 3 sucked, but I thought Resurrection was decent. Res had interesting concepts, and interesting story, they just didn't explore those ideas deeply enough.

Wasted sequels I saw would be:
Alien 3
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
The exorcist II - the heretic
King Kong Lives (1986)
Poltergeist II: The Other Side
Jaws 2
Howling II: Your Sister Is a Werewolf

shadyJ
03-31-2014, 03:24 PM
While Alien 3 is a step down from the previous movies, I can not bring myself to hate it. There is too much good about it. First of all, I like the mode of almost total despair. It saturated everything in the movie. I think that was a bold step after its rambunctious predecessor. The visual style is terrific; cinematic but not over-done. I think Resurrection was over-directed, but the visual composition in Alien 3 is dead on for the material. Fincher would go on to fulfill the promise he showed in Alien 3. I loved the film's score. I think Elliot Goldenthal's score is every bit as good as Jerry Goldsmith's and James Horner's classic scores for the previous movies. It's a shame the Alien 3 script could not match the quality of the score.

That brings us to the Alien 3's weakness, the script. It has some serious problems. Considering that they were literally making it up as they went along, as in they were rewriting it during filming, it could have been worse. For those who don't know, the filmed screenplay was a toned down version of Vincent Ward's far out original script, and by toned down I mean more 'down to Earth', not less bloody. Here is an article about it (http://www.empireonline.com/features/alien-3-tale-of-the-wooden-planet/),- bizarre! The producers improvised from characters and sets built for Ward's ideas, and I think this accounts for the movie's lack of ambition. It's a shame, but, to be honest, Ward's ideas were pretty nuts and perhaps not as fitting to the series' tone as what ended up being filmed.

Anyway, for the mess that the screenplay is, it does have some good moments. I liked the opening credit sequence and Newt's funeral sequence. I also liked when Andrews got wasted.

By the way, Vincent Ward's screenplay can be read here (http://www.horrorlair.com/scripts/alien3_fasano.html). For those who don't know, cyber-punk meastro William Gibson was also commissioned to do a script for Alien 3, his idea were pretty far-out too, but in an entirely different direction than Ward's. Their treatments are almost opposites. Gibson's is not bad though, it can be read here (http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt).

Kandarian Demon
03-31-2014, 04:38 PM
Hellraiser 5 and up
The Grudge 3
Jason X

Fearonsarms
04-01-2014, 07:17 AM
Leprechaun In The Hood and Back To The Hood
The Brotherhood 3
Creepshow 3
Wishmaster 4
Halloween Resurrection
Hellraiser Revelations
Survival Of The Dead
The Amityville Curse

The Villain
04-02-2014, 03:30 AM
Hellraiser 5 and up
The Grudge 3
Jason X

Jason X is terrible but I found it hilarious so it gets a pass with me

realdealblues
04-02-2014, 04:46 AM
Of all the ones mentioned, the only ones I really agree with are:

Exorcist II: The Heretic
Leprechaun: Back 2 Tha Hood

All the others mentioned I enjoy for one reason or another.

Not mentioned yet:

Howling III: The Marsupials
Amityville IV: The Evil Escapes

Sculpt
04-02-2014, 01:26 PM
Of all the ones mentioned, the only ones I really agree with are:

Exorcist II: The Heretic
Leprechaun: Back 2 Tha Hood

All the others mentioned I enjoy for one reason or another.

Not mentioned yet:

Howling III: The Marsupials
Amityville IV: The Evil Escapes

Howling III's subtitle is "the marsupials"?! That is too funny! Sounds like a comedy.

cheebacheeba
04-04-2014, 03:37 AM
Fortress 2.
Ghostbusters 2.
Crank 2.
BATTLE ROYALE 2.
Alien franchise after Aliens.
Scream franchise after #2.
I know what you did last summer 3.
American Ninja 3 and beyond.
Saw past #2.
Critters 3 & 4...hell maybe even 2...has been a while.
Home Alone 3 and beyond.
The Neverending Story - 2 was bad, 3 was worse.
American Pie 2. Though I didn't mind 3. 4 was so-so.
The latest 2 "Universal Soldier" movies.
Terminator 3.
Harold and Kumar 3.
Friday 3
Lost Boys sequels.
Cube 2: Hypercube
Childs Play post-3.
Transformers 2. Though I didn't really like #1 either. 3 I enjoyed.
Hellraiser post-3.

...and from what I mostly hear "Grease 2".

Probably so many more....

realdealblues
04-04-2014, 09:24 AM
Howling III's subtitle is "the marsupials"?! That is too funny! Sounds like a comedy.

Yep, they put a lot of thought into Howling III. Marsupials since it was made in Australia. The name of the town is "FLOW" which is "WOLF" spelled backwards, etc. etc. It had all the elements to be a comedy, but it wasn't. I like "bad" movies, but Howling III is painful to watch at best. I recommend it to friends with insomnia, 20 minutes in and you'll be fast asleep because even the most active of brains can't handle that level of boredom without dozing off.

Vodstok
04-04-2014, 04:37 PM
Oh poor Alien 3. It had everything going against it. David Fincher did a brilliant job with what he had, but it was like Michelangelo carving David out of shit. I liked the return to the claustrophobia, and everything felt dangerous. The twist of having Ripley infected was perfect at that point. The writers and development hell had painted them into a corner so they had no choice but to end it that way.

For me:
The Mummy 2 took the over the top from the first one and just made it stupid.
With the exception of Nolan's Batman movies, I hate any sequel that replaces key characters with actors different from the originals. Like the Crow 2.

The 2nd and 3rd Tremors undid what made the original work.
The Saw movies beyond 2
Any Highlander after the original
The New Testament - Jesus really really pussified the narrative with all that love and understanding shit. That god would never have destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah let alone turn an innocent woman into a pillar of salt for looking over her shoulder. (I'm kidding)

ozzy554
04-05-2014, 11:57 AM
All of the the howling sequels, And all of the crow sequels.

crabapple
04-05-2014, 04:50 PM
Chinese Ghost Story 2, and also 3. Somehow these sequels managed to be very uninvolving. Not without moments, but moments are not enough, I figure...

Sculpt
04-06-2014, 10:20 PM
Fortress 2.
Ghostbusters 2.
Crank 2.
BATTLE ROYALE 2.
Alien franchise after Aliens.
Scream franchise after #2.
I know what you did last summer 3.
American Ninja 3 and beyond.
Saw past #2.
Critters 3 & 4...hell maybe even 2...has been a while.
Home Alone 3 and beyond.
The Neverending Story - 2 was bad, 3 was worse.
American Pie 2. Though I didn't mind 3. 4 was so-so.
The latest 2 "Universal Soldier" movies.
Terminator 3.
Harold and Kumar 3.
Friday 3
Lost Boys sequels.
Cube 2: Hypercube
Childs Play post-3.
Transformers 2. Though I didn't really like #1 either. 3 I enjoyed.
Hellraiser post-3.

...and from what I mostly hear "Grease 2".

Probably so many more....
LOL! Grease 2...

Thanks a lot, cheebacheeba, I had blissfully forgotten about that movie till now! I know it had Edward Sissorhands in it, and most, or all, of the music sucked. But besides that, I don't remember if I ever actually saw it. I don't know if I could stand watching it.

Ghostbusters 2 was a big letdown. I saw it for the 2nd time recently, some 20yrs later. It wasn't as bad as I remembered, thanks to the cast (McNichol), it was mildly entertaining.

cheebacheeba
04-11-2014, 05:54 AM
Some games also came to mind...

Resident evil 4 & beyond. Do not dig that perspective.

Ghoul Patrol.

Resistance 2 (cept for the multiplayer)

Fade to (fucking) black.

Sonic 2 - The master system version

Saints Row 3, and 4.

GhostDog
06-12-2014, 01:39 PM
Dark Knight Rises. (The only movie where I actually asked the manager for my money back.)

X-Men The Last Stand

Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Machete Kills

Son of the Mask

Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd

Speed 2: Cruise Control

Superman III, Superman IV: The Quest for Peace and Superman Returns

Matrix Revolutions

Bourne Ultimatum

Spider-Man 3

The Hangover 3

Rocky V

2 Fast 2 Furious

Alien 3

Crow: City of Angels

Mortal Kombat: Annihilation

All Highlander Sequels

All The Howling Sequels

Just to name a few.

Sculpt
06-12-2014, 09:22 PM
Godzilla (2) Raids Again 1955
Exorcist II: The Heretic
Howling 2
Ghostbusters 2
Alien 3