Indiana Jones

[Jigsaw Killer]

Any fans of this series here? It's one of my all-time favorite series and I love all the films very much in their own way, even the much-maligned fourth chapter. Disney recently bought the rights to more films, I'm excited. My ranking for the series is probably quite untraditional and controversial, but it goes:


Temple Of Doom
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull
The Last Crusade


I think in a lot of ways Raiders is truly the best one, though I find Temple Of Doom to be the most entertaining. I actually go back and forth on Last Crusade and Crystal Skull. I like The Last Crusade but it tends to be my least favorite due to being so deriative of the original, though it's still a tremendous film.

[phantomstranger]

one of my all time favorite film franchises. "Raiders" is my favorite, but I love "Temple Of Doom".
"Last Crusade" is probably my least favorite, and , yes I enjoyed " Crystal Skulls".

[The Ugly Duchess]

Love this series. Can watch them over & over again & again.

Raiders my favorite!:scared to death:

Love them all but Last Crusade would be my fourth choice. But I still think that it is great especially with Sean Connery as Dad.

[Sculpt]

Any fans of this series here? It's one of my all-time favorite series and I love all the films very much in their own way, even the much-maligned fourth chapter. Disney recently bought the rights to more films, I'm excited. My ranking for the series is probably quite untraditional and controversial, but it goes:


Temple Of Doom
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull
The Last Crusade


I think in a lot of ways Raiders is truly the best one, though I find Temple Of Doom to be the most entertaining. I actually go back and forth on Last Crusade and Crystal Skull. I like The Last Crusade but it tends to be my least favorite due to being so deriative of the original, though it's still a tremendous film.
Raiders is one of my all-time favorite films. I think all the sequels paled in comparison, though I enjoyed them all.

Temple delivered on the exotic, but that wore off. Thought it was formulaic and a bit too much of a caricature of Raiders. I found the ending of Temple disappointing.

I liked Crusade a bit better than the other 2 sequels. I thought it was a bit more thoughtful and original. The scene of Indy backing into Hitler is all-time film classic.

Monkey Skull was a tad bit forgettable to me. The atom bomb scene was memorable, the rest not so much.

[Despare]

One of my favorite part about the Indiana Jones movies are the obstacles he faces. I remember watching Crystal Skull around the same time Iron Man (which had its share of great moments don't get me wrong) came out and noticing such a difference between the small amount of adversity Iron Man had to face compared to Indie. Stark had a tough time in the beginning, leveled everything, and then had an anti-climatic "boss fight". The antagonists in the Jones films are always on his tail and there's really no breathing room.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Good to see there's other fans here :) I still got to get the Blu-ray set of all four that came out last year.

[Jigsaw Killer]

On a related note, what's everyone's favorite action scene in the series? The mine cart chase in Temple Of Doom is mine by a big margin. Still an incredible scene and one I always look forward to every time I watch the film.

[Ferox13]

One of my favourite trilogies ever. Next to Jaws, Raiders was my most memorable childhood cinema experience.

[_____V_____]

One of my most cherished series. Can watch all 4 movies umpteen times and never get bored.

Rank:

1) Raiders
2) Last Crusade
3) Temple of Doom
4) Crystal Skull

TBH, I have forgotten most bits of Crystal Skull, except that fantastic CGI-filled ending. As for chase sequences, three immediately come to mind:

1) Indy on a horse taking on ze Germans and their tanks to rescue Dad Connery in Last Crusade,

2) Young Indy being chased over a moving train (with bogies filled with circus shows, one had a snakes pit) in Last Crusade.

3) Indy and Dad Connery chased by Germans in motorcycles, again in Last Crusade.

Not so much as a chase sequence, but the one in Raiders where they are running around the streets of Cairo with Karen Allen loaded into a tall basket, culminating with the vegetable market scene.

Another good one is at the beginning of Raiders - Indy, booby traps, huge chasing boulder, natives and Belloq.

[urgeok2]

just like Star Wars, i really only like the first one ..

[Jigsaw Killer]

One of my most cherished series. Can watch all 4 movies umpteen times and never get bored.

Rank:

1) Raiders
2) Last Crusade
3) Temple of Doom
4) Crystal Skull

TBH, I have forgotten most bits of Crystal Skull, except that fantastic CGI-filled ending. As for chase sequences, three immediately come to mind:

1) Indy on a horse taking on ze Germans and their tanks to rescue Dad Connery in Last Crusade,

2) Young Indy being chased over a moving train (with bogies filled with circus shows, one had a snakes pit) in Last Crusade.

3) Indy and Dad Connery chased by Germans in motorcycles, again in Last Crusade.

Not so much as a chase sequence, but the one in Raiders where they are running around the streets of Cairo with Karen Allen loaded into a tall basket, culminating with the vegetable market scene.

Another good one is at the beginning of Raiders - Indy, booby traps, huge chasing boulder, natives and Belloq.


Those are all great moments and I'd also add the bar shoot-out, truck chase and Ark opening in Raiders, the opening of TOD and the bridge showdown in TOD.

It's one of my favorite series to marathon in one day. Though I usually like to watch them chronologically because even with TOD being a prequel, I feel it works better watched after Raiders because of it's incredible pace.

[adamhenderson]

Cool idea for a thread. Love Indiana Jones. Here goes-- my ranking and justification:

1. The Last Crusade

This comes first purely for nostalgia reasons-- it was the first Indy movie I saw. The sense of adventure in Crusade is massive. I love all the different locations, I love the epic mood of it. When viewing Crusade in context, I still think it holds up as a sequel. There is a scene in the beginning of the film, the transition between young Indy to older Indy where Ford says a line like 'I said... this belongs in a museum!' and then the familiar theme swells on the soundtrack. It's pure movie magic.

2. Raiders of the Lost Ark

The original, though I don't necessarily think the best. That beginning temple sequence, and then the chase through Egypt, it's all good.

3. Temple of Doom

A lot of people don't like this movie, but I do. I like how the second act takes place entirely indoors and underground, and then just explodes to the great outdoors with that stunning bridge sequence.

4. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

I didn't like this one at all. Too much CGI. No cool moments.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Nice summarization of the films though I do like the fourth much more than quite a few others.

[cheebacheeba]

As a kid, I'd hadn't seen many things I'd consider as exciting as Temple.
Though now, I find it grates on me a little. My mind has it held as the "dumb" one, of the real parts of the series.

These days I'd probably rate them -
3, 1, and 2 slightly ahead of 4, which I didn't like too much for different reasons.

[Jigsaw Killer]

If they make a fifth one how would you like to see it done? I'd like to see it darker in tone like TOD was and use a different mythology. I always thought the lost city of Atlantis would've been awesome for Indy to pursue for a final quest.

[Sculpt]

If they make a fifth one how would you like to see it done? I'd like to see it darker in tone like TOD was and use a different mythology. I always thought the lost city of Atlantis would've been awesome for Indy to pursue for a final quest.
If there was a 5th one, I'd like to see a new young actor. It could just be a "prequel". It's really hard to top the Ark of the Covenant as far as archeological discoveries.

I think finding the city of Atlantis would be a good overall premise. He could find key artifacts acrosss the world before ending up there. Could have some extra terrestrial or secret society connection.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I don't know if a prequel could be done, since the Young Indy TV series covered pretty much everything that could be done with a younger Indy. But maybe they could squeeze in another chapter.

[Sculpt]

I don't know if a prequel could be done, since the Young Indy TV series covered pretty much everything that could be done with a younger Indy. But maybe they could squeeze in another chapter.
They, whoever owns the rights, can do whatever they want, and nobody would blink an eye. (Current post company excluded. ::wink::) They could just allude to it being 1938, and Indy is trying to find Atlantis. This isn't Star Wars or Star Trek. Nobody would care if that somehow appeared to contradict the timeline of the Young Indy TV series. Fans would just be very happy Indy films didn't die with Harrison Ford's age.

[Jigsaw Killer]

There's all sorts of cool artifacts that could be tied into the Atlantis mythology too for Indy to pursue.

[knife_fight]

One of my most cherished series. Can watch all 4 movies umpteen times and never get bored.

Rank:

1) Raiders
2) Last Crusade
3) Temple of Doom
4) Crystal Skull



This is the same for me, except I like to pretend Crystal Skull doesn't exist. I have the same attitude about it as the Star Wars prequels.

[Sculpt]

This is the same for me, except I like to pretend Crystal Skull doesn't exist. I have the same attitude about it as the Star Wars prequels.

Really? You didn't even enjoy the first 98% of last film Revenge of the Sith? The ending Vader scene was a bit abrupt, short, stiff and seemed like a throw in, but I thought the first 98% it was quiet well done. I think the material in Revenge should have been slit into two films. Make it seven parts.

I did enjoy all the films. But I had problems with some aspects of the prequels (midichrorians, Jar-Jar, some disjointed one-liners). Actually, what I didn't like about the prequels is what I didn't like about Return of the Jedi, as much of those things started in that film (yub-yub Ewoks, mellodramatic end of the Vader/Luke fight: Vader taking "the pose" hanging the railing). Still, Return of the Jedi's Emperor/Luke and Death Star space battle is fantastic. And the prequels have similair fantastic aspects.

[Sculpt]

I'd really like to see a sharp director make Star Wars films from the Timothy Zhan trilogy books. Those were excellent stories, and take place from the second Revenge of the Sith ends. I think Guillermo del Toro
would be a good choice. Can anyone think of a good director for those?

[Jigsaw Killer]

Del Toro would be awesome for SW, he has an excellent style.

Back on the subject of Indy, I think a darker relic could be cool for him to pursue too, maybe even something rooted in demonology. Something like the Pazuzu statue.

[Sculpt]

Del Toro would be awesome for SW, he has an excellent style.

Back on the subject of Indy, I think a darker relic could be cool for him to pursue too, maybe even something rooted in demonology. Something like the Pazuzu statue.
That might work. American audiences really liked seeing the Ark be proven real to Indy. The rather loose "Indian vudoo" they used in Temple of Doom, was not well received. Along with it being poorly researched and presented. I think a subject with a strong historical basis, a tie to reality and faith reafirming, is the track Raiders showed worked. What's the Pazuzu statue?

[adamhenderson]

If they make a fifth one how would you like to see it done? I'd like to see it darker in tone like TOD was and use a different mythology. I always thought the lost city of Atlantis would've been awesome for Indy to pursue for a final quest.

You are aware there is a point and click adventure game called 'Indiana Jones and the Fate of Lost Atlantis' and it's f-ing AWESOME!?!?!?!?

[urgeok2]

wrong thread -

"Please delete me, let me go .."

[Jigsaw Killer]

You are aware there is a point and click adventure game called 'Indiana Jones and the Fate of Lost Atlantis' and it's f-ing AWESOME!?!?!?!?


Heard of that game and been meaning to play it, seems cool.

[cheebacheeba]

Heard of that game and been meaning to play it, seems cool.
For...22+ years?

Yeah I remember it. Not bad. If you like old sierra games and things like Broken Sword it'll work for you.

Though for a more action oriented title, with a pretty decent script, go with the much more recent "Emperors Tomb" Very satisfying title.

[Jigsaw Killer]

That might work. American audiences really liked seeing the Ark be proven real to Indy. The rather loose "Indian vudoo" they used in Temple of Doom, was not well received. Along with it being poorly researched and presented. I think a subject with a strong historical basis, a tie to reality and faith reafirming, is the track Raiders showed worked. What's the Pazuzu statue?


Pazuzu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazuzu).

[Jigsaw Killer]

On the subject of a fifth film, I was reading the newest issue of Starburst magazine and they had a section about upcoming movies and said Indiana Jones 5 is looking likely with Disney's plans for another film and a greenlight is expected anyday by now. Not exactly a confirmation but it's looking pretty probable we'll get an official announcement not too long from now.

[Sculpt]

Pazuzu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazuzu).
Thanks for the info. I see Pazuzu was used as the demon in the Exorcist.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Yes, but not shown in his demon form sans the statue.

[Sculpt]

Yes, but not shown in his demon form sans the statue.
Actually, I always wondered what that statue was. I was a child when I saw the film on TV. I figured it was the demon, but thought it was merely a creepy shot. When I saw as an adult, I took a mental note to find out if that was an actual idol/demon, but hadn't thought about it till now.

The use of the idol find is an interesting story devise. The priest and demon meet again, so to speak. The film shows Merrin and a larger image of the demon idol, and then shows the dogs fighting. That was meant to indicate Merrin and the demon would fight. But to many that indicated the demon was somehow released by the find. The film doesn't reveal this, but in the wider novels/films, Merrin exercised Pazuzu years early, and Pazuzu is following Merrin. In the Exorcist film itself, the use of Pazuzu and it's link to Reagan and Merrin are left rather puzzling, IMO.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I find the use of Pazuzu as the antagonist all the stranger too considering he's actually a protector who wards off other evil spirits, according to mythology. But seeing as he himself is a demon, I guess his protection comes with a cost.

[Sculpt]

I find the use of Pazuzu as the antagonist all the stranger too considering he's actually a protector who wards off other evil spirits, according to mythology. But seeing as he himself is a demon, I guess his protection comes with a cost.
Pazuzu is, at least on the surface, an odd choice for the possessing demon within the Exorcist film. Would have expected just a demon, or the Devil. But Pazuzu is the king of the demons of the wind. There's an attachment to Judeo-Christianity. One in particular is in Daniel 10, where assumedly an angel, was sent to Daniel, but "the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia." The "fallen angels" of Genesis were on the Earth for centuries. One might expect these demons to be the demons/gods of ancient civilizations.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I always wondered what made William Peter Blatty choose Pazuzu as the demon to possess Regan when he wrote The Exorcist. I guess he might've wanted to use a more unique demon instead of just the Devil or a random one?

Could be interesting to see such mythology used in the next Indy film.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Indy 5 looking possible (http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-wars/233124/exclusive-star-wars-episode-7-indiana-jones-5-update).

If they really make it within the next two years maybe it can be done as a two-part finale to end the series, something like what's being done with Mockingjay for The Hunger Games. I'd love to see an epic finale like that for the saga with Ford reprising Indy for the final time before he has to retire the role due to his advancing age.

[Sculpt]

Indy 5 looking possible (http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-wars/233124/exclusive-star-wars-episode-7-indiana-jones-5-update).

If they really make it within the next two years maybe it can be done as a two-part finale to end the series, something like what's being done with Mockingjay for The Hunger Games. I'd love to see an epic finale like that for the saga with Ford reprising Indy for the final time before he has to retire the role due to his advancing age.
For me, it depends what the scripts are. If they have scripts to move on from the 1957, then yes, include Harrison as Indy passing the torch to a new hero. But please, not Shia LaBeouf.

Otherwise, if there's a good script for an earlier period, I'd rather they start fresh, with an "alternate universe", with no harrison ford.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I doubt Shia would be in it, given that he publicly trashed the fourth film which drew to ire of Ford and also with his recent antics that had pretty much made him a pariah in the film industry.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Word is out now that two more sequels are planned. If that's the case they'll probably have to be shot back-to-back given Ford's age. I think a two-part series finale is a great way to end the series before Ford has to retire the role for good due to his age.

[Sculpt]

If Ford is in them, I'd love it if he was alone. But I doubt anyone has enough faith or vision for that. Have you heard who the new young gun will be next to Ford?

[Jigsaw Killer]

Seems so far Ford is the only definite cast member.

[Jigsaw Killer]

If we get a new Indy film, what kind of relic do you want to see Indy pursuing? I mentioned the Pazuzu statue a few posts back, I'd like to see a darker, more occult-themed relic for Indy to go after for the next film.

[Sculpt]

Ya, they could just make something up too. The stones and cult in Temple of Doom are made up.

"Occult" is basically a somewhat arbitrary label. Technically, or it's root, is 'hidden knowledge'; which itself is an arbitrary measure. Today it's more used in reference to the paranormal, which is also a rather arbitrary label.

They could do it on a made up ancient Gaelic or Norse religion, maybe tie it to Stonehenge, and some relic.

Or they could do Merlin book or crystal ball.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I wouldn't mind a fictional artifact as long as it fits. I liked the Sankara Stones in TOD. The Thuggee Cult was actually real, though.

[Despare]

Atlantis, go big or go home Indie.

[Sculpt]

I wouldn't mind a fictional artifact as long as it fits. I liked the Sankara Stones in TOD. The Thuggee Cult was actually real, though.
Why do you say the Thuggee Cult was actually real? The research I've done says the Thuggee were just road pirates, and not a cult. There was some organization among the members, but that's pretty much were the comparison ends to the Thuggee Cult portrayed in TOD. Some research suggests some Thuggee may used killing for Kali as merely an excuse, as people were clearly killed for their possessions and to leave no witnesses. They had no castle, no priesthood, no Kali religion, no rituals, no mind-altering special powers and no slaves. TOM used the name, that's about it.

[Jigsaw Killer]

It might be a stretch to say they're a cult but they were definitely real and definitely not a good group.

Thuggee entry on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee).

[Jigsaw Killer]

There's been some talks of a reboot of the series, now. Doesn't come off as a huge shock.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I just realized this year both Temple Of Doom and The Last Crusade respectively turn 30 and 25 next month. Time sure has flown. I marathon the series constantly during the Spring and Summer months anyway, now I've got an even more appropropriate reason to do it again soon.

[Jigsaw Killer]

On a related note, anyone ever been on the Disneyland Indy ride? Been on it a few times, very fun and definitely captures the feeling of being in an Indy film. I haven't been on it in years.

[Jigsaw Killer]

This weekend both Temple Of Doom and The Last Crusade turn 30 and 25 respectively on Friday and Saturday. Anyone plan to watch them to celebrate? I definitely will. Recently got the Blu-ray set with all four and can't wait to see how they look in HD.

[Sculpt]

I havent seen Last Crusade since it came out. I should check it out again.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I didn't get time to marathon them sadly, had a busy weekend that time. I'll see them all again soon. I can't wait to see how they all look in HD.

[GhostDog]

Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favorite film of all time. I even wanted to be an archeologist when I was kid until I discovered that they don't do any of that cool stuff.

But nevertheless Indy made my childhood. My best Christmas memory ever was getting the Indiana Jones VHS box set as a kid and running around with my friends playing Raiders of course I was always Indy because my uncle got me a fedora and a whip for my birthday. Great memories.

I love all three Indian Jones though. They're all great.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I rememer we had Raiders and Temple Of Doom on VHS but not Last Crusade for some reason. It was a surprise for me to find out about Last Crusade when I learned about it in a making-of book covering the original Star Wars and Indy trilogies.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Harrison Ford's recent ankle injury on the set on Star Wars Episode VII makes me worried it might interfere with him returning for a fifth Indy film. He's arguably already too old as is, but with this delaying his Episode VII participation this could certainly seriously affect Indy 5 :/

[Sculpt]

Harrison Ford's recent ankle injury on the set on Star Wars Episode VII makes me worried it might interfere with him returning for a fifth Indy film. He's arguably already too old as is, but with this delaying his Episode VII participation this could certainly seriously affect Indy 5 :/
They nearly took him out and shot him. But he pleaded the revisions to the script came out later in the day... long enough that when the gun jammed, they just let him off with the butt of the gun.

[Jigsaw Killer]

::big grin::

I think it's unfortunate back in the 90s they didn't make at least a couple of new Indy films, but I guess with the Young Indy TV show at the time that was considered to be the 90s Indy.

[Sculpt]

Yep, Young Indy was the Indy in the 90s.

Harrison was a great Beatle, and Ford was a great Indy, but the films don't require Ford. Bogart would have made a great Indy. There's actors out there who can do a great job. Leave Ford to nap in Flockheart's lap.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Doing prequels with a Young Indy might be difficult since the Young Indy series covered that, but maybe there might be room for it if they can cover at least a decade before the events of the original trilogy, with an actor who bares a decent enough resemblance to Ford.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I was rummaging through my closet recently and going through a box of books I found my old copy of From Star Wars To Indiana Jones: The Best Of The LucasFilm Archives. It came out in the 90s and I remember getting it as a gift. Covers the original three Indy and Star Wars films with all sorts of great production stills and artwork as well as prop pictures. It comes highly recommended for both Star Wars and Indy fans and you should be able to get a good condition used copy for a decent price.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I finished watching Temple Of Doom just a moment ago and while it's not a straight-up Horror movie it definitely has some very strong elements of Horror in it. The much darker, harsher tone and macabre vibe and imagery of it, the occult undertones and moments in it like the bug chamber, the human sacrifice, Indy being possessed, etc. definitely very Horror-like along with the setpieces. It's easily the most pulp-inspired of the series and has the feeling of a 50s-era EC Horror comic with the supernatural aspects and the lighting effects.

What do you think? I think it might count as at least being semi-Horror. It certainly wouldn't be out of place in a Horror movie marathon and I think this October I'll throw it into my Halloween playlist.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I'll have an all-day marathon of them all this weekend. Anyone ever marathoned the whole series in one sitting? I've done it many times, one of my favorite series to do it with. I usually watch them in order of release, even though TOD is a prequel set before Raiders, I think they flow better when Raiders is viewed before the rest, mainly due to TOD's frantic pacing.

[Jigsaw Killer]

When viewing the series, do you prefer watching them chronologically (Temple Of Doom before Raiders) or in release order? I far prefer watching them in release order, TOD's frantic pacing makes it work better when viewed after Raiders and it also adds some nice variety in between Raiders and TLC.

[Sculpt]

When viewing the series, do you prefer watching them chronologically (Temple Of Doom before Raiders) or in release order? I far prefer watching them in release order, TOD's frantic pacing makes it work better when viewed after Raiders and it also adds some nice variety in between Raiders and TLC.
Maybe you can enlighten me. I've never seen how Temple of Doom functions as a prequel to Raiders. What's notable?

[Jigsaw Killer]

TOD is set in 1935, a year before Raiders which is set in 1936.

[Sculpt]

TOD is set in 1935, a year before Raiders which is set in 1936.
OK. But what I mean is, what's important about that? All the things that happen in Doom could have happened after the events of Raiders, right? Or am I missing something?

For instance, Shortround doesn't die in Raiders, India didn't become uninhabited after the Nazis took power in Germany. Seems to me labeling Doom a 'prequel' is 100% arbitrary.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Well the chronological canon has TOD set a year before the events of Raiders, but I feel TOD would've been better as a direct sequel. I feel the much more frantic pace of the film makes it work better when watched after Raiders and the different mythology and locales also add good variety since Last Crusade shares so much with Raiders.

Plus, in Raiders Indy says he doesn't believe in the supernatural when in TOD he clearly witnesses supernatural occurances. Granted, I always wrote that off as him simply not making mention of TOD's events so he wouldn't lose credability with the university he taught at, but still, it makes more sense that he'd have a cemented belief in the supernatural after what he witnessed and experienced during the finale of Raiders and much of TOD.

[Sculpt]

Well said. I agree, all good reasons for Doom not to have been labeled a prequel.

When Indy said he didn't believe in all that hocus pocus stuff, he was only talking to Marcus, who believed the Ark was different. Also, I think Raiders works better when we believe Indy really doesn't believe in the 'supernatural'. A main character that changes through his experiences is almost always a better story.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Definitely. It'd make sense if prior to Raiders that Indy didn't believe in the supernatural simply because he never experienced such an occurance, but after what he sees and experiences in Raiders and TOD, there's no way he wouldn't not believe.

That said, I think him saying he doesn't believe in Raiders can easily be chalked up to him not wanting to ruin his teaching credentials. He surely would've raised more than a few eyebrows if he'd told of his experiences during TOD's events and could've risked having his license revoked.

[Jigsaw Killer]

On a related note, anyone ever been on the Disneyland Indy ride? Been on it a few times, very fun and definitely captures the feeling of being in an Indy film. I haven't been on it in years.


Here's a good video of it for anyone interested:

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Been years since I was last on it. I remember it being very fun, makes you feel like you're part of an unmade Indy film.

[Jigsaw Killer]

KOTCS DP returning for the fifth film? (http://www.slashfilm.com/janusz-kaminski-indidna-jones-5/)

Perhaps a fifth movie is already in the early pre-production stages? Could be a false report but it's certainly attention-grabbing.

[Jigsaw Killer]

A fifth was recently confirmed. Hope it gets going soon with the production since Ford is almost 73.

[Roiffalo]

I'm one of those hard assed fuddy duddies who things that they should've stopped making Indiana movies after the third. Although I am curious what they'd make a fifth about. Especially when Harrison is getting up in years (assuming he'll be in it, it just wouldn't be an Indiana Jones movie without him).

[Jigsaw Killer]

I remember reading somewhere that he's contracted for at least one more.

[Roiffalo]

If he lives that long. Considering the yearS in between sequels.

[Jigsaw Killer]

A new film would likely be set sometime during the 1960s, corresponding with his age.

[Jigsaw Killer]

No word on when a new film might be happening but with the huge success of Jurassic World I bet execs are eager to have Chris Pratt as Indy for the next film. After seeing him in JW I could get behind him as the new Indy. It'd be good to have one more with Ford at least before, though.

[Roiffalo]

Can we not make Chris Pratt the new Ryan Reynolds...

[Jigsaw Killer]

A fifth film was confirmed recently. After seeing The Force Awakens and how awesome Harrison did as Han Solo, I've got no doubt he has it in him for a final go as Indy. Just hope production gets rolling on it this year.

[Chevalier]

I was a big fan of the first three films, but not a fan of Crystal Skull.

[Morningriser]

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[Jigsaw Killer]

I was a big fan of the first three films, but not a fan of Crystal Skull.


It's grown on me although the first time was definitely a disappointment.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Posted my ranking before, but:


Temple Of Doom
Raiders
Crystal Skull
Last Crusade


Controversial and unpopular to rank them that way, I know. I like all of them, bear in mind.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Indy 5 was confirmed for July 2019.

[hammerfan]

Indy 5 was confirmed for July 2019.

I'm sorry, I think it's time to hang up the whip

[Roiffalo]

I'm sorry, I think it's time to hang up the whip

That time is long past.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I think Ford can still reprise the role for a final time.

[Sculpt]

Indy 5 was confirmed for July 2019.

Wow, 3 years is a long wait. Indiana's son to be main character? I wasn't happy with Shia LaBeouf, but there's far worse.

Who'd make a good new Jones?

[Jigsaw Killer]

I think after Ford finishes the fifth film it might be best to retire the series after that, Ford is just too iconic in the role to me.

[Ghoulies4Life]

Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favorite movie of all time. I have a framed poster on my wall and dress up as Indiana Jones ever year on Halloween. Seriously. Every year. I'm well into my twenties...I should probably re-evaluate some things.

[Martha]

I love this series and watch over and over again.

Raiders is my favorite with Temple Of Doom following.

My fourth would be Crusade with the Crystal Skulls following last.

But I thoroughly enjoyed all 4 of the films.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Nice to see the Temple Of Doom love around here. Always been my favorite.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Animated Indy Movie Coming (http://www.slashfilm.com/animated-indiana-jones-movie-patrick-schoenmaker/)


It may be animated but looks like we're getting a new Indy movie. Always surprised an animated movie wasn't done sooner or even an animated series. Should be interesting to see where it'll rate among the films.

[Sculpt]

Animated Indy Movie Coming (http://www.slashfilm.com/animated-indiana-jones-movie-patrick-schoenmaker/)


It may be animated but looks like we're getting a new Indy movie. Always surprised an animated movie wasn't done sooner or even an animated series. Should be interesting to see where it'll rate among the films.
An animated movie might be pretty cool. Nothing like a Lucas/Kaufman written, Kasdan screenplay and Spielberg directed Indie film... But all things come to an end.


I love this series and watch over and over again.

Raiders is my favorite with Temple Of Doom following.

My fourth would be Crusade with the Crystal Skulls following last.

But I thoroughly enjoyed all 4 of the films.
Yea, Raiders is really on it's own plateau. Doom, Crusade & Skull are fun, but they really don't have the magic.

I used to consider Crusade my second fav, but after seeing it a second time, Doom is probably better, but again, they're really out of Raider's league (IMHO).

[Jigsaw Killer]

I notice most Horror fans tend to like Temple Of Doom and are softer towards it than much of the more casual general public. I guess Horror fans tend to gravitate to the darker tone and Horror-like vibe of it whereas those aspects might be off-putting to a non-fan.

[Sculpt]

I notice most Horror fans tend to like Temple Of Doom and are softer towards it than much of the more casual general public. I guess Horror fans tend to gravitate to the darker tone and Horror-like vibe of it whereas those aspects might be off-putting to a non-fan.
I don't think Doom even explains that at the beginning... but I think some people are like, "whoah, what happened to the brunette?"

I think horror fans were bit more cool with Doom. It was rather unique, taking aim at the darkside of hinduism.

One odd thing about Doom was it was actually a prequel, occurring before the events of Raiders... that's a weird thing for an audience to get.

[Jigsaw Killer]

I think it was a prequel because George Lucas wanted different enemies other than Nazis.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Bringing this back with the recent Indiana Jones talk there was in another thread.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Just remembered the fourth one is turning 10 in 2018. How time has flown, sure doesn't feel like it's going to be a decade since. I still remember the hype very well.

I wonder if we'll finally get some news on the fifth film this year, after Ready Player One (which so far looks great). With the fifth film set for release in 2020 and only two years away, I'd imagine pre-production will begin sometime this year.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Indy 5 recently was announced as being one of Spielberg's next, good to hear something concrete is finally underway.

[Sculpt]

Indy 5 recently was announced as being one of Spielberg's next, good to hear something concrete is finally underway.

Yeah, very cool. Sounds like Harrison will be the star. I'd just assume they do one of two things: One, just make Ford the star throughout, and not try to introduce a young replacement... and then kill off Ford, or leave him in a University. Or two, just star a new young actor as Indiana Jones, or give him a new name, I don't care. One of the two.

BY RIANNE HOUGHTON
27 SEPTEMBER 2017

There are now three years to wait until the next Indiana Jones arrives, so we're going to take every little morsel about the film that we can.

Thankfully, Harrison Ford is happy to oblige on that front, and has been busy teasing a few details about the upcoming sequel to Graham Norton.

Appearing on this week's Graham Norton Show, Harrison revealed that the updated release date is locked in and that it's going to be "great". That's a relief.

Teasing the direction for the movie, Harrison confirmed that number five will revisit the intrepid explorer now that he's a little older.

"I'm looking forward to working with Steven [Spielberg] again and to revisiting the character later in life," he explained. "It's interesting to see it in a different light.

"It will be fun and a good thing to do."

Some fans will be pleased to hear that the film's "different light" won't be including Shia LaBeouf as Indy's son-turned-sidekick. (Sorry, Crystal Skull fans.)

"Harrison plays Indiana Jones, that I can certainly say, and the Shia LaBeouf character is not in the film," screenwriter David Koepp confirmed earlier this month.

While Koepp is clearly not a Crystal Skull fan, Spielberg himself is, apparently, as he recently revealed that his least favourite Indiana Jones instalment is actually Temple of Doom(!).

[Jigsaw Killer]

It's a shame Spielberg is so down on Temple Of Doom. With that movie he was clearly firing on all cylinders. Last Crusade has such a by the numbers feel to it by comparison, like he just wanted to please the masses who hated TOD and felt it was too dark or graphic.

It'd be great for 5 to be more like TOD with a darker tone and more Horror-oriented storyline. Also bringing back the pulpy style that was sadly missing from TLC and Crystal Skull. One of the things I love about Raiders and especially TOD is the pulpy style which really makes them feel like the vintage adventure serials that inspired the character in the first place. TOD had that plus a distinct EC Comics feel and style as well.

[Sculpt]

It's a shame Spielberg is so down on Temple Of Doom. With that movie he was clearly firing on all cylinders. Last Crusade has such a by the numbers feel to it by comparison, like he just wanted to please the masses who hated TOD and felt it was too dark or graphic.

It'd be great for 5 to be more like TOD with a darker tone and more Horror-oriented storyline. Also bringing back the pulpy style that was sadly missing from TLC and Crystal Skull. One of the things I love about Raiders and especially TOD is the pulpy style which really makes them feel like the vintage adventure serials that inspired the character in the first place. TOD had that plus a distinct EC Comics feel and style as well.

Spielberg definitely needs to bring back the pulpy, serial adventure style of Raiders and TOD, and keep it very serious -- let any humor come out of nowhere.

I don't know if it will be a Lucas story; do you? I read in June 2016 "Marshall has stated that the film would be a continuation of the events following Kingdom of the Crystal Skull."... you know whatever that means. And that Lucas will be Ex Producer. Some guy named Koepp is writing it, but I don't know if that means story and screenplay, or just screenplay. Hard to know what to expect.

[Jigsaw Killer]

No idea. I just hope the script are more up to par with the first two movies. The final film should end the series on a high note and having this film a return to form of the pulpy style with a more serious tone with humor that comes naturally is the way to go. While I enjoy Last Crusade, I disliked how it was deliberately campy and comical, wheras in the other films the humor came naturally out of the situations at hand.

[Jigsaw Killer]

Indy 5 is confirmed to begin filming next year. Very excited and after how good Ready Player One turned out, Spielberg no doubt has it in him for another.

Posted my ranking before, but:


Temple Of Doom
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull
The Last Crusade


Controversial, I know. While I still enjoy Last Crusade, it's too slapsticky and feels too much like Raiders 2.0 for my tastes, whereas the others in the series are more unique.

[Sculpt]

Indy 5 is confirmed to begin filming next year. Very excited and after how good Ready Player One turned out, Spielberg no doubt has it in him for another.

Posted my ranking before, but:


Temple Of Doom
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull
The Last Crusade


Controversial, I know. While I still enjoy Last Crusade, it's too slapsticky and feels too much like Raiders 2.0 for my tastes, whereas the others in the series are more unique.
Filming starts next year? That's great!

If you are ever able to find out who wrote the story (as opposed to screenplay), let me know. I'm very curious. So far all the stories have been from Lucas, but others turned those into screenplays. It would be weird if the story wasn't from Lucas... it would be like the new Star Wars films that are not taken from a Lucas written story. You know how weird those can be.

This new Indy 5 film's screenwriter is David Koepp, who has written (that is the screenplay, not necessarily the story):
"Jurassic Park (1993), The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997), and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008); the action spy films Mission: Impossible (1996) and Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit (2014); the superhero film Spider-Man (2002); the sci-fi disaster film War of the Worlds (2005) and the mystery thriller Angels & Demons (2009). Koepp has directed six films over the course of his career: The Trigger Effect (1996), Stir of Echoes (1999), Secret Window (2004), Ghost Town (2008), Premium Rush (2012), and Mortdecai (2015)."

And I can't believe you like Doom better than Raiders! ::stick out tongue:: You crazy!

I don't remember Skulls very well, so I'd rate them:

1. Raiders
~a vast chasm~
2. Doom
3. Crusade
4. Skull

[Jigsaw Killer]

I actually think Raiders is the best one in many ways and I'd never argue it being ranked number one, but Temple Of Doom is the most entertaining for me. I usually never distinquish between best and favorite although I sort of do with the first two Indy films; the original is the best but TOD is my favorite.

[Sculpt]

I actually think Raiders is the best one in many ways and I'd never argue it being ranked number one, but Temple Of Doom is the most entertaining for me. I usually never distinquish between best and favorite although I sort of do with the first two Indy films; the original is the best but TOD is my favorite.
::cool::

[Jigsaw Killer]

One thing that's for sure is the original two movies are the strongest for sure. I'd love for Indy 5 to be more like then. Bring back the pulpy style and harder edge to end the series on a good note.