American Horror Story: Coven

[neverending]

A new season warrants a new thread, so here you go!

Pictures from the set:

http://www.fearnet.com/news/news-article/first-pictures-set-american-horror-story-coven

Who is playing who in the cast!

http://www.fearnet.com/news/news-article/finally-official-details-american-horror-story-coven

[Giganticface]

Can't wait! I loved the first two seasons. Sounds like this season it's mostly a female cast. (Kathy Bates, awesome!) I hope they find roles for Evan Peters (Kit, Tate) and Zachary Quinto (Dr. Thredson, Chad) though.

[The Villain]

I remember reading that Evan Peters was once again going to be playing a sad pathetic character like Tate in the first season

[CaraBloodyCara]

I'm really excited for this. Looks like it's a voodoo-centric theme and I can definitely dig on that.

[hammerfan]

I'm really looking forward to the new season!

[neverending]

Dueling Witches!

http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/ryan-murphy-on-american-horror-story-coven.html

[hammerfan]

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[neverending]

I'm not sure I like what Ryan Murphy's been saying about a "lighter tone" for this season. I loved that he was pushing the envelope so far in past seasons, but we'll have to see!

[Giganticface]

I'm not sure I like what Ryan Murphy's been saying about a "lighter tone" for this season. I loved that he was pushing the envelope so far in past seasons, but we'll have to see!

Yeah hopefully that doesn't mean more choreographed musical numbers. That was pretty off the wall last season. Not saying I hated it, but I hope they don't do it again.

[neverending]

Oh my, I thought the name game was BRILLIANT. Perfect in conception and execution, considering it as a peek inside Jude's drug addled mind.

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Like something right out of a David Lynch movie...


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[ImmortalSlasher]

This should be better than the last season. I thought it kind of flopped at the end. At least this time I not going to be surprised by the change of theme/location like I was last time.

[hammerfan]

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[neverending]

That one had a bit of a Blair Witch feel to kit.

[hammerfan]

That one had a bit of a Blair Witch feel to kit.

I thought so, too.

[shiningm]

I am very excited about this new season of AHS though I did not like season two all that much. I think my interest is piqued because of my love for New Orleans. I think New Orleans is one of the scariest cities in the U.S. and I wish there were more horror films set there. I absolutely loved "Skeleton Key" mostly for the bit of history/voodoo/hoodoo we get to see

[hammerfan]

Premiere is set for October 9th at 10:00 pm.

[hammerfan]

This doesn't have to do with "Coven", but I know neverending loved this:

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Can you tell I'm bored at work? :D

[neverending]

Yes, I do love it!

[ImmortalSlasher]

All the quick teases make this season look really good. I like the one with the three witches that are hovering the most. Being set in New Orleans should make this even better. I've always thought that witches were interesting. I met a girl once who told me she was into Wicca. I didn't know what it was and thought she was joking when she explained it.

[hammerfan]

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[knife_fight]

So, do you guys think this will be more like Suspiria, or more like Harry Potter?

I'm excited to see the show set in New Orleans. I don't live in New Orleans proper, but I know the city well enough that I expect to see a lot of locations that I recognize. I have to say that I, personally, think a story about a school for witches is dumb, and that it is set in New Orleans is kind of lazy writing and a little obvious.

That said, I'll definitely watch it, even though I didn't enjoy Season 2 nearly as much as I liked Season 1.

Also, as a side note, my faith in the world and humanity died a little bit more when I watched the trailer on youtube. The background music is "House of the Rising Sun" (of course :rolleyes:), and I couldn't believe how many comments of, "What song is this?" or "What's the name of the song?" I saw. People these days don't know shit about shit.

[darkchamber]

Anyone know of a good way to get American Horror Story: Asylum. I'd like to watch it before I start Coven.

I loved the first season and unfortunately didn't get a chance to watch the second.

[neverending]

It might be on Netflix, I'm not sure. Even if you can't track it down, it won't matter. Each season is a completely different storyline, characters, etc., so you won't be missing out on anything you need to know.

[darkchamber]

Good to know, thanks!

[neverending]

Looks like season two is not on Netflix, but is available on Amazon streaming for two bucks an episode.

[knife_fight]

For what it's worth, I didn't think Season 2 was nearly as good as Season 1.

[neverending]

And I thought it was better.

[The Villain]

I'll agree with Knife Fight. I liked the first season better. Although i did like the second season and i thought the finale was better.

[ImmortalSlasher]

I just watched the first real commercial with the actors. I don't know about this one now. The teasers were really good and spooky. With the actors it doesn't feel that way. I saw another teaser with a lady doing something in a chair and she had a snake tail for legs. Spooky stuff like that is what I'm expecting. Not what might be a modern day witch school / sanctuary.

[neverending]

After two seasons of delving into our national psyche and all the horrible things that can be found there, playing out on a rich tapestry of themes, multi-generational storytelling, with layer upon layer of subtext, you really think all this coming season will be about is a school for witches? That's like saying the first season was just a haunted house story and the second season was about some crazy nuns.

[knife_fight]

After two seasons of delving into our national psyche and all the horrible things that can be found there, playing out on a rich tapestry of themes, multi-generational storytelling, with layer upon layer of subtext, you really think all this coming season will be about is a school for witches? That's like saying the first season was just a haunted house story and the second season was about some crazy nuns.


True enough. I think my snide comment in the post above, comparing this season to Harry Potter, was made just after I finished season 2, which I was disappointed with. Incidentally, I completely forgot that my previous post said the same thing that I posted this morning.

Spoiler Alert!!!
I still thought it was great, just not as great as season 1, but I'm biased against anything involving aliens. I hate alien crap, for some reason, but I still like scifi. It's easier for me to go along with ghosts and serial killers, than to believe that aliens came down out of the sky.

[darkchamber]

Looks like season two is not on Netflix, but is available on Amazon streaming for two bucks an episode.

I wish there were more free episodes for Prime members. Thanks for checking.

[ImmortalSlasher]

After two seasons of delving into our national psyche and all the horrible things that can be found there, playing out on a rich tapestry of themes, multi-generational storytelling, with layer upon layer of subtext, you really think all this coming season will be about is a school for witches? That's like saying the first season was just a haunted house story and the second season was about some crazy nuns.

I still think the first season was the best. That was the one that was constantly trying to push things with surprises and reveals. I've already forgotten about the second season. I guess that's why I was disappointed by the first real trailer with the actors. It didn't look anywhere near and spooky and dark as those teaser trailers.


Spoiler Alert!!!
I still thought it was great, just not as great as season 1, but I'm biased against anything involving aliens. I hate alien crap, for some reason, but I still like scifi. It's easier for me to go along with ghosts and serial killers, than to believe that aliens came down out of the sky.

Against aliens in general? Or just in the aliens are messing with us type of thing?

[darkchamber]

New teasers and a brilliant motion poster! I love the poster.

http://alienbee.net/american-horror-story-coven-gets-two-more-teasers-and-a-new-motion-poster/

[neverending]

Season 2 was far more extreme, both in the amount of horror depicted and in diverse subject matter, than season 1. I think it might be a generational thing, as season 2 dealt with a lot of things that were very much straight from the headlines in the 50s-70s- uncovering of Nazi atrocities, the Lee Harvey Oswald case, UFO sightings, forced medical experimentation, ostricization of lesbians in public life...

If you didn't grow up hearing about these things, season two might not resonate with you the way it might with older viewers.

[The Villain]

Season 2 was far more extreme, both in the amount of horror depicted and in diverse subject matter, than season 1. I think it might be a generational thing, as season 2 dealt with a lot of things that were very much straight from the headlines in the 50s-70s- uncovering of Nazi atrocities, the Lee Harvey Oswald case, UFO sightings, forced medical experimentation, ostricization of lesbians in public life...

If you didn't grow up hearing about these things, season two might not resonate with you the way it might with older viewers.

That makes a lot of sense. It definitely didn't resonate in any kind of personal way with me. I think a problem i had with it was that there was a lot going on all at once. The first season had a lot too but it all seemed to fit together. The second season just seemed all over the place.

It definitely wasnt bad. It was a lot creepier then the first season and as i've said before had a better ending. I think i just enjoyed the ride better during the first season.

[knife_fight]

Season 2 was far more extreme, both in the amount of horror depicted and in diverse subject matter, than season 1. I think it might be a generational thing, as season 2 dealt with a lot of things that were very much straight from the headlines in the 50s-70s- uncovering of Nazi atrocities, the Lee Harvey Oswald case, UFO sightings, forced medical experimentation, ostricization of lesbians in public life...

If you didn't grow up hearing about these things, season two might not resonate with you the way it might with older viewers.

My wife, who is actually younger than me, said the same thing. I was bitching about the aliens and she, more or less, said, "Aliens were hot shit in the 60's!"

The point being that the show was being true to what was in the headlines at the time, as far as unexplained stuff goes.

[knife_fight]

Against aliens in general? Or just in the aliens are messing with us type of thing?

I really don't know. To me, it's just hard to believe that aliens are "among us" or whatever you want to say about them. I find it much easier to believe in ghosts and monsters, for some reason.
In my mind, including aliens is kind of lazy writing. Aliens can do anything, so if you need something to happen, that couldn't possibly happen in real life, throwing an alien in there makes it plausible.

I fully realize this is flawed logic, and my rational mind tells me that, but I can't help it.

Aliens in scifi or outer space = ok

Aliens on earth interfering in human affairs = dumb

[Angra]

I really don't know. To me, it's just hard to believe that aliens are "among us" or whatever you want to say about them. I find it much easier to believe in ghosts and monsters, for some reason.
In my mind, including aliens is kind of lazy writing. Aliens can do anything, so if you need something to happen, that couldn't possibly happen in real life, throwing an alien in there makes it plausible.

I fully realize this is flawed logic, and my rational mind tells me that, but I can't help it.

Aliens in scifi or outer space = ok

Aliens on earth interfering in human affairs = dumb



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[ImmortalSlasher]

I really don't know. To me, it's just hard to believe that aliens are "among us" or whatever you want to say about them. I find it much easier to believe in ghosts and monsters, for some reason.
In my mind, including aliens is kind of lazy writing. Aliens can do anything, so if you need something to happen, that couldn't possibly happen in real life, throwing an alien in there makes it plausible.

I fully realize this is flawed logic, and my rational mind tells me that, but I can't help it.

Aliens in scifi or outer space = ok

Aliens on earth interfering in human affairs = dumb

I think aliens are always possible. It's like the what's over the hill story. It's just a matter of getting over the hill. There were a lot of good sci-fi stories from that time period. I'm still catching up on a bunch. I saw a good Twilight Zone about a year or so ago about aliens in a bar.

[staceybethh]

I'm with neverending on this one. Asylum was far better than the first season. Both were equally great, IMO.

I am way too excited for Coven, though.

[neverending]

Interview with Kathy Bates! Check out her costume.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/kathy-bates-brings-hell-to-american-horror-story-20131008

[staceybethh]

See going to be SO amazing in that role. Madame LaLaurie is always fascinating to read about so I'm excited to see her play this role.

[DrFrankensteinsGirl]

I'm watching it right now. I've only seen the first season but so far Coven looks amazing I love witches so when I heard that season 3 was going to be witches I got super excited and it is not disappointing.

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"Enjoy that dead girl's body."

[staceybethh]

I'm watching it right now. I've only seen the first season but so far Coven looks amazing I love witches so when I heard that season 3 was going to be witches I got super excited and it is not disappointing.

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"Enjoy that dead girl's body."

I'm watching it now too! Already off to a great start.

[Giganticface]

That was a freaking awesome opener. This season is going to be killer.

[staceybethh]

Holy crap that premiere episode was awesome!!

[neverending]

There was definitely a lot going on. It felt kind of scattered to me. One particular plot device even shocked me. I'm sure all the elements will come together and be amazing, but to me, it wasn't quite there yet.

Please remember to post spoiler warnings if you discuss any specifics,

[Giganticface]

There was definitely a lot going on. It felt kind of scattered to me. One particular plot device even shocked me. I'm sure all the elements will come together and be amazing, but to me, it wasn't quite there yet.

Please remember to post spoiler warnings if you discuss any specifics,

*no true SPOILERS, but don't read if you want to be completely untainted*

Yeah, it was a bit inconsistent, perhaps because of the stark difference in the two settings/eras. Also, something tells me this season isn't going to be as gritty as season 2, but who knows. That basement scene near the beginning was pretty harsh. I just love how stylized this show is. I also love seeing the same actors each season in different roles. And the opening credit sequence, once again, is pure goosebump juice.

[ChronoGrl]

There was definitely a lot going on. It felt kind of scattered to me. One particular plot device even shocked me. I'm sure all the elements will come together and be amazing, but to me, it wasn't quite there yet.

Please remember to post spoiler warnings if you discuss any specifics,

Ooo - I'm curious; what shocked you?

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I thought that it was a good, solid opener. I'm not sure if this season is really touching on a sub-genre of horror that I particularly like but that being said, the casting and direction (and knowing how much I've loved the last two seasons) definitely kept me a fan. The fiance wasn't a huge fan of the season opener, but come on - You only have an hour - I thought that it did just what it wanted to - Introduced a peak into history and characters effectively... And I can't wait for the rest of the season.


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Two things in particular shocked me:


Delphine LaLaurie's atrocities upon her captive slaves, especially the placing of the cow's head (shudder)
Zoe Benson's "power" - When we see what happens when she has sex with her boyfriend at the start of the episode, I assume that the bleeding was a byproduct of something else... But the reveal at the end that her sexuality literally kills - That was unexpected and definitely shocked me.

[ImmortalSlasher]

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I think this will be the best season of the show yet. It's like a real show instead of the whole "let's see how crazy we can get and how far we can push things" of the past two seasons. But they do push things in this show pretty far for normal TV. There was tons of good dialog with all the characters. I like Emma Roberts character the most. That dinner scene was funny. I've never seen her in anything before. I think her Nancy Drew movie is on my list. Also, Scream 4 but I haven't seen Scream 3 yet. It was surprising what happened to her. I didn't catch how they were able to drug her. Perhaps the drink and one of the girls was in on it? You hear about this sort of thing happening a lot in the news these days and how people brag about it on the Internet. It's really disgusting behavior. What she did was more than warranted and it was a great shot too. I can't wait for tonight's episode. Witches, the undead, and voodoo. This is going to be awesome.

And I love the new theme song in this show too.

[neverending]

I enjoyed the second episode more than the jumble of the first. The plots have been set, and we get down to storytelling. Some great acting pyrotechnics between Lange and Bates. Looking forward to next week.

[DrFrankensteinsGirl]

I love watching Kathy Bates and Jessica Lange going at it, those ladies are incredible actresses. I also loved the little quip last episode about Stevie Nicks being a witch, I'm sure she got a kick out of that :). Can't wait for Wednesday this new season looks like it's gonna be killer.

[ChronoGrl]

I love watching Kathy Bates and Jessica Lange going at it, those ladies are incredible actresses. I also loved the little quip last episode about Stevie Nicks being a witch, I'm sure she got a kick out of that :). Can't wait for Wednesday this new season looks like it's gonna be killer.

Absolutely! Not to mention, I love Lily Rabe - I got really excited when I saw her appear on screen - Looking forward to seeing her character.

[ImmortalSlasher]

Madison is just awesome. She's the girl with a dangerous side that you just let slide because she's so cool and hot. You even see how dangerous she is when Fiona mentions her mass murder and then we really get to see the results a scene later. Yet the shot with her in her undies made me 99% sure I wanted the Blu-ray. Most girls can't pull off the animal print bikini. But wow. Plus she drives the new Jaguar. And even with her smoking dope in public during the day like it's no big deal and abandoning her roommate. You just have to like her. The conflict between her and Queenie is great. I'm sure there will be a real blow up later.

This season already has more interesting stuff compared to the previous two. Maybe it's just the whole theme of witches and the setting. But this is far better than I expected it was going to be. I love the new theme song too. And the songs in Episode 2. I used to listen to the second one a lot when I was young. It's funny that the singer is supposed to be a witch. It's like all the actors and writers are on their game. And so much crazy stuff is going on in the show. I can't wait for episode 3 tonight and to see what the real life Minotaur will do!

[neverending]

Well, I agree that this season is awesome, but not with your assessment of the previous seasons. I think you're just mesmerized by the hot young girls. :p

Having grown up in the 60s and 70s, I can tell you there were a lot of subtle little touches in several of the plot lines of Season 2 that a younger viewer might not necessarily pick up on.

[DrFrankensteinsGirl]

SPOILERS!!! SPOILERS FOR EP. 3






What? What? That was crazy, a bag of craziness just exploded all over American Horror Story. Poor FrankenTate (that's what my fiancee has been calling Kyle lol) Watching him and his mom...yuck really disturbing. Fiona really is the baddest witch in town and I love her more each time she's on screen. Also um WTF Queenie???? Also Zoe is a terrible judge of character and I just want to hug Misty Day and sing Fleetwood Mac songs with her until she feels loved. Those are my jumbled crazy thoughts about tonights episode, I'll be more coherent later I just need to process everything lol.

[hammerfan]

Apparently, Jessica Lange is leaving after next season.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/jessica-lange-quit-acting-bang-article-1.1494312

[neverending]

Apparently, Jessica Lange is leaving after next season.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/jessica-lange-quit-acting-bang-article-1.1494312

Seems like a smart move for her. She'll spend four years wowing people with her bravura performances on the show and then she'll have her pick of major film projects in what is certainly one of the most sucessful comebacks in movie history.

[neverending]

After watching the third episode all I can say is WOW. They're really amping things up. Watching all the amazing veteran actresses in this show is pure joy; not only Lange and Bates, but Angela Bassett and now Patti Lupone and is that... can that be?... YES, it's MARE WINNINGHAM. Where in the world did they dig her up? She certainly has changed! Loved her any years ago, and it was really a treat seeing her pop up on this show.

This season is already amazing.

[hammerfan]

After watching the third episode all I can say is WOW. They're really amping things up. Watching all the amazing veteran actresses in this show is pure joy; not only Lange and Bates, but Angela Bassett and now Patti Lupone and is that... can that be?... YES, it's MARE WINNINGHAM. Where in the world did they dig her up? She certainly has changed! Loved her any years ago, and it was really a treat seeing her pop up on this show.

This season is already amazing.

I agree. So far, this is my favorite season.

[ferretchucker]

I'd never got round to watching this show before and oh BOY what a mistake! I'll be retracing the earlier seasons in the agonising week-long gaps between these episodes. Absolutely gripped.

SPOILERS (in white)

Not sure how much of this applies to the earlier seasons but I do love the feeling of expendibility of the characters - seeing Roberts' throat cut this early was not expected. Likewise, what the fuck has happened to Miss. Sidibe? (Her power is so hilarious and awesome)

I also love the equality-message undertones. No, it's not majorly subtle, but it is interesting and there's enough surface level action that it doesn't feel like we're being beaten over the head with it. The scene where Bassett refuses Paulson the magic just because she was born into the wrong family - so beautifully ironic whilst also being SOOO frustrating, but that being the aim, I love it.

[neverending]

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I'm not sure how I feel about this latest episode. The "Council of Witches" seemed a bit like an episode of Bewitched, though the parody of Truman Capote was delicious.

[DrFrankensteinsGirl]

Holy cow tonight's episode was awesome!!

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Fiona has been cemented as my favorite character after she brought that woman's baby back to life. Fiona's trying to find redemption as a mother to Cordelia is so far one of my favorite parts of the show. You can tell that she loves her and she really does want to be a good mom but all she knows how to be is the selfish HBIC that she doesn't really know where to start to fix things. I wasn't really digging Zoe's character too much until this episode, the zombie chainsaw massacre was awesome. I'm glad she's gone from standing in the background looking like a scared bird at everything to being the one that slaughters all the zombies and saves the school. Also whatever that shit was that she did at the end is a way better power to have than killer vagina. Also Cordelia's husband is a piece of shit and I hope Fiona roasts him.

[hammerfan]

DrFrankensteinsGirl:

I totally agree with you on all counts. And, I really think Cordelia's husband is in for a world of hurt - both from Fiona AND Cordelia. Remember, Cordelia "saw" what he did!

[ImmortalSlasher]

Two episodes and the show is missing something or someone. But things were crazy last episode. I love the butler's reaction about going to his room. And one character finally stepped up and stopped acting stupid. Also the chainsaw! Things are really building up.

[ChronoGrl]

I just want to hug Misty Day and sing Fleetwood Mac songs with her until she feels loved.

ME TOO. Can't wait to see more from that character - Loved the end of last week's episode. :cool:


Seems like a smart move for her. She'll spend four years wowing people with her bravura performances on the show and then she'll have her pick of major film projects in what is certainly one of the most sucessful comebacks in movie history.

Plus hopefully she'll still make the occasional guest appearance, which would be awesome.

Holy cow tonight's episode was awesome!!

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Fiona has been cemented as my favorite character after she brought that woman's baby back to life. Fiona's trying to find redemption as a mother to Cordelia is so far one of my favorite parts of the show. You can tell that she loves her and she really does want to be a good mom but all she knows how to be is the selfish HBIC that she doesn't really know where to start to fix things. I wasn't really digging Zoe's character too much until this episode, the zombie chainsaw massacre was awesome. I'm glad she's gone from standing in the background looking like a scared bird at everything to being the one that slaughters all the zombies and saves the school. Also whatever that shit was that she did at the end is a way better power to have than killer vagina. Also Cordelia's husband is a piece of shit and I hope Fiona roasts him.


I agree with all of this, especially Zoe - I really want to see her become badass.



I actually rewatched episode 4 ("Fearful Pranks") and then episode 5 ("Burn Witch Burn") in succession; I feel as though the two together were one long, fantastic episode - Here are my thoughts:






I am really fascinated by the treatment of male characters this season, in particular Evan Peters (Kyle, though I keep wanting to call him Tate) and Denis O'Hare (Spalding), whom we have seen in past seasons. It took me a while to pick up on this but I enjoy how American Horror story has played with our my expectations for these characters - Since Peters played a major role in the previous seasons (last season especially), I expected him to surface with a major role opposite Farmiga (Zoe) once again. Instead, he's been diminished to a drooling Monster - Likewise with O'Hare; I was incredibly excited to see his name in the credits and it took me a second episode with Spalding to notice that he was actually O'Hare - Again, my expectations of O'Hare (hopes that he would be fulfilling a larger, edgier role - I would love to see another Russel Edgington!) were completely confounded; Like Kyle, Spalding is a mumbling Monster... Coupling this realization with the reveal of Josh Hamilton (Hank Foxx), who referred to (and revealed) himself as a Monster ("What were you last Halloween?" "A Monster"), it seems as though, while our heroines discover and dispense more power, our men are dissolving into Monsters (it'll be interesting to see what happens to our Neighbor Boy)... I really like this theme of female-empowerment.
Fiona breathing life into the stillborn infant reduced me to tears. Such a moving scene. In fact, all of the hospital scenes with her have revealed a lot about her relationship with her daughter, her regrets, and ultimately her love.

[ferretchucker]

Absolutely loving this show to pieces. I'll always enjoy a show/film that leaves you to decide if you like the characters or not because they all have their flaws. And this isn't just little flaws - Batman is sometimes reckless but he's undoubtedly the hero.

Instead, I find myself sympathising with Kathy Bates' racist maid of torture and a Butler with a (SPOILER TO FOLLOW ) dead girl in his bedroom (SPOILER OVER, SIGH WITH RELIEF). As for Cordelia, WOW. Despite her loveliness, I WAS finding her kinda boring. Guess THAT won't be a problem anymore.

[ImmortalSlasher]

Last episode was over too soon. I'm glad my favorite character is back though. Even if she's not right yet.

[ferretchucker]

Zoe is quickly becoming one of the most annoying characters on TV. There's not a single decision she makes that doesn't cause a facepalm.

[Wednesday]

I'm really liking this season so far, but i feel like it lacks something that the first & second season had (not sure what, LOL)

My favourite character so far is Misty :D

& like others, I keep wanting to call Kyle, Tate haha

[darkchamber]

I've only seen the first episode, so far. Does it pick up? I'm feeling like this season is lacking something. It hasn't pulled me in like the other two seasons.

[ChronoGrl]

Maybe it's a genre thing for you, like it was for me... Wasn't totally psyched by the Pilot (just not my favorite sub-genre) but now I'm hooked. Good solid story-telling, acting and direction. Definitely stick with it, especially if you've liked previous seasons.

[darkchamber]

Maybe it's a genre thing for you, like it was for me... Wasn't totally psyched by the Pilot (just not my favorite sub-genre) but now I'm hooked. Good solid story-telling, acting and direction. Definitely stick with it, especially if you've liked previous seasons.

Thanks! It could be a genre thing for me as well. I love the actors, they did so well the first two seasons. And the new ones seem promising. I'll start up again tonight.

[ImmortalSlasher]

I don't know about this now. The show is kind of losing steam just like with the other seasons. It's of course headed for a big blow up. But it feels like they are starting the whole twist thing again. Maybe things will be more to my liking in the next episode.

[ChronoGrl]

Oh, man, I disagree with you! I thought the last episode was fantastic!!








Fiona and the Axeman - I thought that the Axeman was going to blackmail her into - I don't know - Making him into some kind of super-human or something... But the twist I found delightfully creepy! (also I'm always impressed when my assumptions with a plot twist are wrong) - It's so a macabre yet oddly romantic tale - I love the idea that he's always watched over her like a daughter and then fell in love with her - So beautifully macabre!
Spalding SPEAKS! - I love Dennis O'Hare; seeing Spalding speak was fantastic - I hope that he's not actually dead; this character is so eccentric and interesting. The concept of the living tongue was also creepy and well-done. I'm enjoying watching Zoe's powers extend - I like the idea of her potentially following the Fiona path
The Madison & Kyle relationship was creepy and well-done (What struck me in particular is that it really hit me that here are two DEAD PEOPLE fucking - Whereas I never really had that problem with, say, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I liked that the scene unnerved me) - And the threesome with Zoe just added to the creepiness. Brilliant.
As for Queenie and Delphine... I wasn't sure how to feel about this relationship with Queenie supposedly was warming up to Delphine... I didn't buy it and wasn't really a fan... But yet, when she turns Delphine over, I couldn't help but feel some sympathy (WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME?? DELPHINE IS AWFUL!!) - The fact that I feel so conflicted with it just punctuates how well-done the writing is!









Loved that episode. Can't wait to see what happens next!

[zombiegummiebear]

I love this season maybe it's just because, I love witches but, this messed up crazy show just has me hooked. Jessica Lange is amazing and I never thought we'd see such a diverse cast on TV. There's so much going on that just drives soccer moms mad and I'm loving every second.

[The Villain]

I'm not liking this season as much as the others. There just seems to be something missing

[neverending]

This may be a generational and/or gender based thing, I'm thinking. I'm not digging this season as much as previous seasons either. I still like it and watch every episode, but it's not wowing me like last season. I think they're definitely focusing on the younger demographic this year.

I want more Kathy Bates, and I want to see her duking it out with Lange the way Lange and Cromwell did last season.

[hammerfan]

This may be a generational and/or gender based thing, I'm thinking. I'm not digging this season as much as previous seasons either. I still like it and watch every episode, but it's not wowing me like last season. I think they're definitely focusing on the younger demographic this year.

I want more Kathy Bates, and I want to see her duking it out with Lange the way Lange and Cromwell did last season.

I agree. I also think they're aiming toward a younger demographic. I want more Kathy Bates, too! The scenes with her and Fiona are so good. I'd also like to see more scenes with Jessica Lange and Angela Bassett.

[zombiegummiebear]

Not only a younger audience but, primarily a female audience. I find it easier to connect with female characters that have to hide secrets as a homosexual. That being said I'm not saying all do, not trying to stereotype. There's also a lot that I think mothers relate to a lot in this In both good and bad ways. Pretty much all lead males are either evil or a side dish so it's hard for most men to find a Character to connect with.

[NightOfTheLiving_Sam]

I heard they're planning on making a Season 4 already, but I'm not for sure yet. At first I only thought they would only make three seasons but I read in a article that there might even be a Season 4: once I find the article I'll be sure to reply back and post it up.

[The Villain]

I heard they're planning on making a Season 4 already, but I'm not for sure yet. At first I only thought they would only make three seasons but I read in a article that there might even be a Season 4: once I find the article I'll be sure to reply back and post it up.

I've seen plenty of articles about them making a season 4 with the most recent one stating that the theme may be a Carnival. I hope they go with that, i think theres a lot of possibilities there.

[ferretchucker]

If you've gone this far into a thread on a show you haven't seen you deserve to read these spoilers.

I love Delphine and I don't know why. I just find large, older women adorable. Especially as she doesn't have much idea what's happening around her. I like to think that over a century in a box underground gave her a lot of time to think on her sins, I'd say she's changed. She's had a pretty good punishment. When she was wearing that jumper and getting all excited about a haircut I just wanted to scream at her to run and save herself.

I have problems.

As for Fiona, I'm not loving her. I just find her a little dull - interesting, particularly earlier on, but her recent changes of heart are pretty meh and a bit too reminiscent of Sister Jude, who I adored. Come to think of it, there's another example of an cruel character who I always felt sympathy for - even before we were meant to.

[NightOfTheLiving_Sam]

As for Fiona, I'm not loving her. I just find her a little dull - interesting, particularly earlier on, but her recent changes of heart are pretty meh and a bit too reminiscent of Sister Jude, who I adored. Come to think of it, there's another example of an cruel character who I always felt sympathy for - even before we were meant to.

Yeah I loved Jessica Lange playing as Sister Jude, I actually cried during Season Two believe it or not which I haven't cried for any other character but her's. She was a very likeable character and I actually had a lot of sympathy for her.

[neverending]

I really enjoyed this week's episode. It seemed like all the different plot threads are coming together, and Jessica Lange was AMAZING.

Also, I've been waiting for this song to show up and it finally did:

B5aPhGQ0L9Q

[ChronoGrl]

This may be a generational and/or gender based thing, I'm thinking. I'm not digging this season as much as previous seasons either. I still like it and watch every episode, but it's not wowing me like last season. I think they're definitely focusing on the younger demographic this year.

I want more Kathy Bates, and I want to see her duking it out with Lange the way Lange and Cromwell did last season.

Well, if I compare it to the previous seasons, I found last season more wow-worthy, but, like you I do enjoy this season. Makes me want to re-watch the first season because I think that I'd probably rank them Season 2, Season 1, and Season 3.

As for this week's episode...


SPOILERS



I honestly don't get why they don't go after Fiona through the Council when their elaborate ruse didn't work - I mean, they have a case to set her on fire, so why don't they go through that route?

[neverending]

OMG!! This season is getting better with each episode, and now we have to wait till Jan. 8th!

So many interesting developments this episode, and I loved Queeni's big moment!

[metternich1815]

If you've gone this far into a thread on a show you haven't seen you deserve to read these spoilers.

I love Delphine and I don't know why. I just find large, older women adorable. Especially as she doesn't have much idea what's happening around her. I like to think that over a century in a box underground gave her a lot of time to think on her sins, I'd say she's changed. She's had a pretty good punishment. When she was wearing that jumper and getting all excited about a haircut I just wanted to scream at her to run and save herself.

I have problems.

As for Fiona, I'm not loving her. I just find her a little dull - interesting, particularly earlier on, but her recent changes of heart are pretty meh and a bit too reminiscent of Sister Jude, who I adored. Come to think of it, there's another example of an cruel character who I always felt sympathy for - even before we were meant to.

I actually love both Fiona and Delphine. There are many tremendous performances in this show and those are, in my opinion, two of the best. I am really loving this season.

[ferretchucker]

OMG!! This season is getting better with each episode, and now we have to wait till Jan. 8th!

So many interesting developments this episode, and I loved Queeni's big moment!

At some point every day since the last episode I've thought to myself "ooh, a new one must be out by-AHH fucking hell."

[Izuna Uchiha]

So tell me, is it really that good? I hear literally everyone talking about it lol.

[neverending]

So tell me, is it really that good? I hear literally everyone talking about it lol.

No, we all love it cuz it's shit.

[Izuna Uchiha]

No, we all love it cuz it's shit.

Well that's good to hear. Netflix, here I come.

[PishPosh]

Starts back up tomorrow night. Can't wait. Love this show.::cool::

[neverending]

SOME SPOILERS BELOW


I'm loving this season more and more every episode. This new ep. was a work of art right from the opening scene. The framing of the scene, a dialogue between two people, and one of them shown only in a small mirror behind the other, was masterful. And the performances of Lange and Basset, so subtle and powerful, telling us through their eyes only, that they are both lying to each other.

I have marveled at the show's ability to find personal favorite actresses of mine and giving them meaty roles to play; Mare Winningham, Patty Lupone, and now pulling a classic rock icon out of left field and in a bit of truly inspired metacasting, playing on everything that Stevie Nicks means to us.

I also particularly loved seeing the theramin in use. The mystery of who will be the next supreme keeps me intrigued. I started this season feeling it didn't quite meet up to the first two seasons, but I now feel it's every bit the equal, and if they come up with a mind blowing finale, it may well be the best yet.

[neverending]

It wasn't until I saw some idiot on Facebook proclaiming "Stevie Nicks cannot sing anymore" and "That was embarressing," that my thoughts on her role really coalesced.

Not only was her singing beautiful, it was brilliant, because they weren't presenting Stevie Nicks the popstar, they were presenting Stevie Nicks the witch, the CRONE, and she was weaving a magical spell, keening, crooning a literal spell, passing her magic onto the younger version of Stevie, and that was carried forth in the passing down of the shawl.

Powerful.

This was all very personal for me as I was transported back to the mid-70s when I saw Fleetwood Mac in concert, and of course they performed Rhiannon. This was long before the Cult of Stevie though. Back then, she was just the female singer in the band...

[ChronoGrl]

NE, your thoughts are so eloquent - Can't really add much there outside of saying F that person for commenting on Nick's voice; they're missing the point and I think that you've really captured the magic of that scene.

I'm incredibly intrigued with who is the next supreme and I am absolutely in love with Fiona's love story as well as her attempt at making a Deal (such a horrifying yet sad scene at the same time) - It's also interesting to see her path parallel to the Potential Supreme's paths - It's a path of corruption and death - Really interested to see where this season goes.

[ferretchucker]

It wasn't until I saw some idiot on Facebook proclaiming "Stevie Nicks cannot sing anymore" and "That was embarressing," that my thoughts on her role really coalesced.

Not only was her singing beautiful, it was brilliant, because they weren't presenting Stevie Nicks the popstar, they were presenting Stevie Nicks the witch, the CRONE, and she was weaving a magical spell, keening, crooning a literal spell, passing her magic onto the younger version of Stevie, and that was carried forth in the passing down of the shawl.



One thing in particular I loved was that the audio was clearly live. The polished yet disconnected feeling of having a separate studio recording overlaid on the image is always frustrating. Stevie was beautiful, was thrilled that she made a reappearance at the end.

As for the rest of it, what can I say? I guess I shouldn't have been as shocked as I was at all of these developments considering the show has a habit of entering "bat-shit crazy" mode this far in. Nice to feel like characters are expendable again - though it was an interesting story dynamic bringing everyone back to life earlier on, it had the fault of removing much of the risk factor.

HOWEVER, I must admit I'm not majorly bothered about the Witch-hunters. Fearing it'll all boil down to a magic vs guns firefight. Sure it might be an interesting spectacle but what I love so much about AHS is the way simple scenes of dialogue have such power. The Season 2 finale was a masterstroke for just that reason.

[The Villain]

SOME SPOILERS BELOW


I'm loving this season more and more every episode. This new ep. was a work of art right from the opening scene. The framing of the scene, a dialogue between two people, and one of them shown only in a small mirror behind the other, was masterful. And the performances of Lange and Basset, so subtle and powerful, telling us through their eyes only, that they are both lying to each other.

I have marveled at the show's ability to find personal favorite actresses of mine and giving them meaty roles to play; Mare Winningham, Patty Lupone, and now pulling a classic rock icon out of left field and in a bit of truly inspired metacasting, playing on everything that Stevie Nicks means to us.

I also particularly loved seeing the theramin in use. The mystery of who will be the next supreme keeps me intrigued. I started this season feeling it didn't quite meet up to the first two seasons, but I now feel it's every bit the equal, and if they come up with a mind blowing finale, it may well be the best yet.

I definitely agree with you on the framing, dialogue, and the performances. Plus i thought the Stevie Nicks cameo was great. Im just not liking the story this season. Death's are thrown around for shock value which wasn't done in the other season. If there ends up being a purpose for their deaths (Like in the other seasons where dead characters came back) then i'll be ok with it but right now its just kinda ruining things for me. How am i supposed to find a death scene tragic and worry about the characters when they all just keep coming back? Plus the whole supreme mystery just seems a little predictable to me.

[neverending]

Really? Who is the next supreme then?

[The Villain]

Really? Who is the next supreme then?

To me, like I stated before, it just seems like its going to be revealed that its Zoe. She was the first character shown, shown that she had influence with fire and can bring people back from the dead. Plus she's the only character who hasn't come out and said they could be the next supreme or who hasn't been named as a potential. Plus she just seems like the obvious choice. Hopefully they'll surprise me though.

[Giganticface]

How am i supposed to find a death scene tragic and worry about the characters when they all just keep coming back?

I'm having a bit of an issue with that too. Not only is each death only temporary, even Cordelia's tragic blindness has been cured. It definitely lessens the impact of each event.

Misty getting buried alive though -- that's pretty messed up.

Also, in general, I just don't think this season is as scary or shocking as the last two. There have been a few moments that compete -- episode 1 was straight brutal. Regardless, I still love the show and look forward to each episode.

[neverending]

To me, like I stated before, it just seems like its going to be revealed that its Zoe. She was the first character shown, shown that she had influence with fire and can bring people back from the dead. Plus she's the only character who hasn't come out and said they could be the next supreme or who hasn't been named as a potential. Plus she just seems like the obvious choice. Hopefully they'll surprise me though.

You're not paying attention. Madison has made a couple of comments to Zoe about how she would suck as the supreme.

[neverending]

I'm having a bit of an issue with that too. Not only is each death only temporary, even Cordelia's tragic blindness has been cured. It definitely lessens the impact of each event.
.


Really? Where's Queenie then?


Plus, I think you guys are missing the point. They're exploring the concept of immortality, and the effects it would have on the soul. I loved the bit where the voodoo god couldn't make a bargain with Lange because she had nothing to bargain with.

[Elvis_Christ]

I didn't think much of that version of Rhiannon either... pretty badly off key in parts.

The second song she did sounded better and you could tell the first one was a bit messed up.

But yeah no biggie it's just an opinion.

Madison has made a couple of comments to Zoe about how she would suck as the supreme.

Probably why it will happen. It'll be a disaster.

[neverending]

You guys are probably right, but I'm enjoying the ride. I try to not have expectations about things, and just see where they go.

[The Villain]

You're not paying attention. Madison has made a couple of comments to Zoe about how she would suck as the supreme.

Someone saying she would make a bad supreme isn't the same as Zoe Stating that she could be the next supreme or Fiona incorrectly declaring her as such. I am paying attention.

Really? Where's Queenie then?


Plus, I think you guys are missing the point. They're exploring the concept of immortality, and the effects it would have on the soul. I loved the bit where the voodoo god couldn't make a bargain with Lange because she had nothing to bargain with.

They made a point to have the girls state that the names of the dead werent released so Queenie could be alive especially since if she's dead that means Kathy Bates is unceremoniously gone from the show as who would find her?

Just because we don't like the way something is playing out doesn't mean were not getting the point. I understand that's what they're doing but its getting repetitive and boring. Its still good just lacking something and I personally don't find it as good as the other seasons.

[Elvis_Christ]

You guys are probably right, but I'm enjoying the ride. I try to not have expectations about things, and just see where they go.

It's definitely been entertaining so far. Bound to be some twists that prove everyone's theory wrong. This season has had more of them than the previous entries.

[neverending]

Well, you can't really explore the concept of immortality without some characters that are immortal. Does it have less "impact" when the apparent death of a character turns out to not be final? Sure, in one traditional sense, but the death means something different in the long run. :scared to death:

This show has never done things the traditional way. They've always twisted things around and they're doing it again this season.

And they have addressed the issue of Zoe being the supreme. I can't recall the exact scene, but it was in an early episode, and ever since then the others have been trying to prove they're the next supreme. Zoe is a shrinking violet, so she doesn't push the issue. You guys may be right that she will be revealed as the one in the end. If so, I'll see how they handle it. The finales have tended to be a mess. We'll see what happens this time!

[Elvis_Christ]

I hope they sew Queenie and Delphine together ::big grin::

[neverending]

I hope they sew Queenie and Delphine together ::big grin::


Perfect!

[Elvis_Christ]

You're right about the finales being a mess. I thought both seasons really dropped the ball in that regard. Here's hoping this one doesn't.

[ferretchucker]

I'm currently working my way through season 1, but I for one really enjoyed the season 2 finale. Though it's a crude reduction, for the sake of argument let's say that a TV series such as this is like a very long film. In this respect, many (not all) films feel the need to give us that final closure scene, which is how I found Season 2's ending. The penultimate episode gives us the big thrills, the finale ties up the loose ends. Whilst sometimes it's nice to leave things open/not draw it out, Ryan Murphy has addressed how it's necessary to treat TV characters differently due to the attachments we form with them.

In any case - the last episode was...strange. Not keen on the apparently easy solution to the witch hunter problem. Whilst I didn't want a big shoot out, this was a tad too simple. Perhaps it was to show LaLaurette and Fiona's descent into true evil, but quite frankly I hardly think that's already been well established! Delphine's return to sickness is a bit eh. I was enjoying her development, and this particularly undoes the power of the crying head scene.

I must say, whilst I appreciate NE's argument about it being an interesting exploration of immortality, it HAS reduced the stakes. I mean, okay, the main characters - but now Queenie's back, Spalding keeps showing up and the fucking Axeman seems to be just living a normal life off on the music scene. Similar to how I feel with season 1 at the moment and the ghost aspect - if almost everyone (Addy WAS a sad and powerful moment) can come back it's tough to fear too much for them. I mean, no, you might not want your favourite character to become a ghost, but let's face it - as an audience member, we MAINLY care about an old favourite dying because it now means their absence. If they're still present, we're still placated with continual exposure to their character. Season TWO had stakes.

[neverending]

Yah, this season is really running hot and cold. The two previous episodes I really enjoyed. This one was just, as you say- strange.

[NightOfTheLiving_Sam]

The one thing I got confused about this series was.... why did they end up drowning Nan? Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter?

[hammerfan]

Now I see why everyone has been saying the last episode was strange - it definitely was strange! And the camera angles were making me dizzy! LOL

[ImmortalSlasher]

Somehow once again like the other seasons I'm losing interest in this show. And I thought I would own this season too. I guess only a few episodes are left. But too much stuff happens just to happen.

[neverending]

I enjoyed this week's episode more than the previous one. I'm looking forward to the finale'. IMO at this point I think they'll pull off some surprising twist. I'm not convinced Chloe is the next supreme. Anything could happen. Lange could get resurrected and take back control. Bates could execute a power play and take over. So could Basset. Or nobody becomes supreme. Or they all rule as a council. Anything.

Even the stylish red haired theremin player could wind up supreme.

Whatever happens it's bound to piss off some people and satisfy others. Some will say they dropped the ball and the season was a mess. Some will love it.

[hammerfan]

I enjoyed this week's episode more than the previous one. I'm looking forward to the finale'. IMO at this point I think they'll pull off some surprising twist. I'm not convinced Chloe is the next supreme. Anything could happen. Lange could get resurrected and take back control. Bates could execute a power play and take over. So could Basset. Or nobody becomes supreme. Or they all rule as a council. Anything.

Even the stylish red haired theremin player could wind up supreme.

Whatever happens it's bound to piss off some people and satisfy others. Some will say they dropped the ball and the season was a mess. Some will love it.

I've loved it so far. Personally, I'm hoping Misty Day is the next supreme.

[The Villain]

Not liking this season. Too many inconsistencies, characters coming back from the dead and endless back stabbing. For a show that show that should be showcasing female empowerment, it sure is making all the girls come across as power hungry untrustworthy bitches.

This season has been more about Jessica Lange than any of the others and I'm really getting tired of her character. Honestly its like watching The Jessica Lange show. Her death last episode was way too anticlimactic and since Ryan Murphy has such a hard on for her, there's no way she's not coming back.

My prediction is Fiona cones back and kills all the girls like in Cordelias vision and she wins. Boring.

Either that or Nan will come back as the next supreme.

Just my opinion.

[ImmortalSlasher]

I don't know how this will end but I'm looking forward to it. Not in a good way but it will finally be over way. It started off so well too. Now they are just cleaning stuff up. Even with the two characters that are trapped in their own Hell. That was just an "oh" moment. It was surprising what happened to the main character. But since she I assume has all the powers she'll be back tomorrow to do something bad.

[Rawhead Rex]

Whatever happens...
Misty Day should get naked.
That should not be argued.

Past that...I'm sure Jessica Lange will be back...no way an axe takes her out for good.

[Crude]

Someone saying she would make a bad supreme isn't the same as Zoe Stating that she could be the next supreme or Fiona incorrectly declaring her as such. I am paying attention.



They made a point to have the girls state that the names of the dead werent released so Queenie could be alive especially since if she's dead that means Kathy Bates is unceremoniously gone from the show as who would find her?

Just because we don't like the way something is playing out doesn't mean were not getting the point. I understand that's what they're doing but its getting repetitive and boring. Its still good just lacking something and I personally don't find it as good as the other seasons.


Completely agree with the above statement, def missing something I am even finding myself a little bored with this season compared to the last 2

[neverending]

I'm calling out The Villain on this one! ::big grin::

All that Sturm und Drang about being bored cuz you knew exactly what was going to happen.

Well, guess what? ::embarrassment::

[neverending]

MANY SPOILERS BELOW! STOP READING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.


Thoughts on the finale'.

I'll have to admit I didn't get as involved in this season as I did the first two. I think women might have a different opinion- particularly younger women. Stilll, there was enough to keep me interested, some real high points that make this show stand far above most other shows on TV.

This finale' was more cohesively plotted than previous finales' I think. The "who's the next supreme" kept me guessing, and I liked how it resolved.

Seeing Fiona after she came back from the dead was shocking- she really looked frail and near death. And her version of Hell I thought was very effective. I felt sorry for her being stuck with that guy for eternity.

The 7 trials- the girls' visions of Hell were kind of lame, IMO. Seriously? Hell is breaking up with your boyfriend?

I liked the symetry of the young guy being the new butler.

Olive was one of my favorite characters. She was just quirky and odd, and I was sorry to see her get burned again.

Overall I give this season a solid B, with the first two seasons rank A. It was flawed, but still enjoyable, with plenty to recommend it.

[newb]

just finished this

agree that this for me was the weakest season.Personally I'm not a big fan of witches and voodoo. Still very watchable though.

[The Villain]

I'm calling out The Villain on this one! ::big grin::

All that Sturm und Drang about being bored cuz you knew exactly what was going to happen.

Well, guess what? ::embarrassment::

I admit my predictions were wrong and I'm happy they were. However this doesn't change the fact that for me the finale was dull.

Cordelia being the new supreme was interesting but the way it played out was anticlimactic and boring.

This felt like any old episode instead of the finale. They did a terrible job building to this point. I honestly didn't care what happened and who the supreme was unlike the other seasons where I was excited to see how it ended.

This was definitely the weakest finale and season to me.



Olive was one of my favorite characters. She was just quirky and odd, and I was sorry to see her get burned again.



Do you mean Myrtle?

[neverending]

Ooops- yes, Myrtle. I have a soft spot for anyone that plays a theremin.

[hammerfan]

I agree, with everyone, it was very lackluster for a finale. Disappointing that Cordelia ended up being the supreme - I was rooting for Misty. LOL

However, they did set it up nicely for it's own series. Which is what I've heard is going to happen.

[Honoko]

I agree, with everyone, it was very lackluster for a finale. Disappointing that Cordelia ended up being the supreme - I was rooting for Misty. LOL

However, they did set it up nicely for it's own series. Which is what I've heard is going to happen.

I agree I was also rooting for Misty. I didn't like how they killed her. I also didn't like how the remaining living characters are so boring and lack personalities. Even if they tried so hard to make them relevant or interesting.

[The Villain]

I agree, with everyone, it was very lackluster for a finale. Disappointing that Cordelia ended up being the supreme - I was rooting for Misty. LOL

However, they did set it up nicely for it's own series. Which is what I've heard is going to happen.

I read in a recent interview that Ryan Murphy will never go back to something he's already done in relation to AHS. So I dont see that happenening

[Honoko]

MANY SPOILERS BELOW! STOP READING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.


Thoughts on the finale'.

I'll have to admit I didn't get as involved in this season as I did the first two. I think women might have a different opinion- particularly younger women. Stilll, there was enough to keep me interested, some real high points that make this show stand far above most other shows on TV.

This finale' was more cohesively plotted than previous finales' I think. The "who's the next supreme" kept me guessing, and I liked how it resolved.

Seeing Fiona after she came back from the dead was shocking- she really looked frail and near death. And her version of Hell I thought was very effective. I felt sorry for her being stuck with that guy for eternity.

The 7 trials- the girls' visions of Hell were kind of lame, IMO. Seriously? Hell is breaking up with your boyfriend?

I liked the symetry of the young guy being the new butler.

Olive was one of my favorite characters. She was just quirky and odd, and I was sorry to see her get burned again.

Overall I give this season a solid B, with the first two seasons rank A. It was flawed, but still enjoyable, with plenty to recommend it.

Pretty much this season was more for the tween girls. This season does have a huge fan base of them. The fans started from first season because of Tate and Violet and now it's Kyle and Zoe. So far Taissa Farmiga is the Kristen Steward of American Horror Story and the director knows it. Why else so many teens vote for her to be the next supreme when she was probably the least interesting and the most illogical character there?

Taissa characters in all American Horror Story is just a Mary sue character which teen girl wish to be her because they want Peter Evans. I could tolerate first season with Violet and Tate but this season was just pure stupid unnecessary teen love triangle and teen angst. Zoe's character is just not interesting and poorly develop from beginning to end. Her version of hell was even more stupid. "Oh my boyfriend dumped me!" First thing I thought was Twilight.

What I don't like is all the plot holes and the poor story structures American horror story always had. Seems like everything always started out good and ends up really half-assed in the end. More so in this season especially how character changed so fast but still have no character development.

I'm so just so disappointed on how a 300 years old voodoo witch started out so power, strong and smart end up being so dumb and weak. Same with the Ancient witch hunter society. I was expecting them to be the final boss but they ended up being killed off so easily. I would assume an ancient witch hunter group would have at least magic repellents.

I'm just not going to expect anything good from American horror story anymore. I still like it because of all the amazing actors, they always make the character their own. It's just the story development was bad as if the writer and director just got lazy in the end.

[newb]

I wonder what it will be next year

so far we've had

ghost
insane asylums
aliens
gestapo
sadistic scientist
demonic possession
serial killer
witches
voodoo
zombies
resurrection

any guesses?

[Honoko]

I wonder what it will be next year

so far we've had

ghost
insane asylums
aliens
gestapo
sadistic scientist
demonic possession
serial killer
witches
voodoo
zombies
resurrection

any guesses?

I don't know werewolves and shape shifters.

[ImmortalSlasher]

I'm glad that's over. I went from buy the DVD at the opening of the season to barely having any interest in watching the show. It was all over the place. Like the writers were just throwing stuff up on the board and going with what sounded cool or fun. Characters die and come back, do stuff that makes no sense, can be powerful in one instance and weak in the next. I guess I'll watch the fourth season. But I'll probably watch them in groups, not every week. Three seasons is more than enough for them to make a consistent show. All of these start strong and fall off. Coven started the strongest too.

[hammerfan]

I wonder what it will be next year

so far we've had

ghost
insane asylums
aliens
gestapo
sadistic scientist
demonic possession
serial killer
witches
voodoo
zombies
resurrection

any guesses?

I vote for vampires or werewolves.

[neverending]

Well, this is AMERICAN Horror Story. They've used the show to explore uniquely American legends and comment on American life. Vampires and werewolves are very much European legends. I don't see them going there.

[hammerfan]

Well, this is AMERICAN Horror Story. They've used the show to explore uniquely American legends and comment on American life. Vampires and werewolves are very much European legends. I don't see them going there.

Killjoy ::stick out tongue::

[neverending]

Killjoy ::stick out tongue::


I could see them doing a circus, sideshow or carnival...

[Honoko]

Well, this is AMERICAN Horror Story. They've used the show to explore uniquely American legends and comment on American life. Vampires and werewolves are very much European legends. I don't see them going there.

I don't think they are following any kind of legends. They pretty much making stuff up or loosely base things on certain legends.

[neverending]

You've completely missed the point of the entire series then.

It was Ryan Murphy's stated aim, in many interviews before the show started, and since, to comment on things in America's past and present that are troublesome, by using horror tropes filtered through American history and legends. This season alone they had references to the Salem witch trials- this happened in Salem, Massachusetts, not anywhere else- and slavery which plaqued America in it's early years, and used specific historical characters from New Orleans, which were involved in the voodoo religion which arose among the slaves.

The other two seasons did similar things. Ir's like you don't even know what show you've been watching. It's no wonder you have such a low opinion of the show with your lack of knowledge of the show itself. They didn't name the show American Horror Story because it sounded nice- it has a meaning.

I think the third season suffers only in comparison with the first two seasons. Murphy and Falchuck set the bar impossibly high.

[hammerfan]

I could see them doing a circus, sideshow or carnival...

Did you ever see "Carnivale"? Another show that was cancelled too soon.

[neverending]

I have not.

[Elvis_Christ]

Guess I'm alone but I thought the finale was great. Didn't see a few things coming which I dug.

Asylum is definitely the best of the three. I would rate the first season as my favorite if the ending wasn't so fucking atrociously shit ::smile::

I'd love to see a carnival story... although yeah Carnivale has already done it and I doubt very much it would be topped.

A Manson style cult would be interesting too.

[neverending]

A cult might be interesting. He did do serial killers with the Bloody Face thing, but that's not really the same thing.

[newb]

Bigfoot....Mothman...Obamacare

[The Villain]

Was hoping for the circus but I recently read that Murphy has plans for the next two seasons and a circus isn't it.

Urban Legends might be cool.

[Elvis_Christ]

A cult might be interesting. He did do serial killers with the Bloody Face thing, but that's not really the same thing.

Seeing as the series Cult kinda bombed it might be hard pitching the idea. I think it would be excellent. Nothing more American than cults ::big grin::

[neverending]

Unfortunately that's true.

[hammerfan]

I have not.

If you can find it streaming somewhere, I think you would like it.

[newb]

A cult might be interesting. He did do serial killers with the Bloody Face thing, but that's not really the same thing.

Already being done

The Following

[Elvis_Christ]

Already being done

The Following

I forgot about that and I watch it too ::roll eyes::

Still done in the series' stylr it would be a winner especially if the lead is done well. They should bring Ian McShane back again whatever they decide to do.

[newb]

I forgot about that and I watch it too ::roll eyes::

Still done in the series' stylr it would be a winner especially if the lead is done well. They should bring Ian McShane back again whatever they decide to do.

Ian McShane....another one I could watch in anything

[Elvis_Christ]

Ian McShane....another one I could watch in anything

Yeah me too. Deadwood was an amazing show wish it had a longer run.

[Yogobro298]

Wish I could of gotten into this season,but the whole witch thing was a turn off for me..Like really?They couldn't of explored anything else?and The actors they had this season are meh... Earlier season's were the best

[ChronoGrl]

Going after American Cryptids in the fourth Season would be brilliant -

As for this season and the finale... Hmmmmmm - My initial reaction is that I was underwhelmed with it, but I think mostly because I thought that the first two seasons were so strong.

The second season is my favorite, but probably because it hits on more subgenres that I enjoy than the first one does, though I disagree with disappointment in the Finale of the first season - I thought that the Finale of the first season was brilliant and just perfect, and rang true to the title of the series; it's a classic Horror Story trope to end with a semi-happy ending, but with a twist...

As for THIS season - Man, this one was really a mess. I feel like they introduced a LOT of really interesting ideas and characters, but maybe it was too much -

For example - There are three main conflicts that are brought up in the film:


The conflict between the Voodoo Queen and the Salem Set
The conflict between the Witch Hunters and All Witches
Who is the Next Supreme?


I feel as though the first two of these conflicts were solved much too early and were really anticlimactic... So the conflict with the Witch Hunters brought the Voodoo Queen and Salem Set together? They easily kill the Witch Hunters (really? I mean, don't get me wrong - great scene, but seemed waaaay too simplistic) - Then after that, the Voodoo Queen is disposed of rather quickly and unceremoniously...

As for the third point - I don't know - I think I lost interest in who the next supreme was when Madison tried to bury Misty alive - I think because we were distracted otherwise as an audience... So when we return for the 7 Wonders - Man, Honestly, it was too little too late. I loved it in concept but I thought that that episode just really fizzled.

HOWEVER, I like the idea of Cordelia becoming the next Supreme because this show has been a study of how being the Supreme changes and perverts people, so I think there's some ominous undertones there... But I think the last episode was mostly anticlimactic...

Other notes - Mostly echoing what NE said -

I love their exploration of Immortality and Hell. I do agree that making people immortal definitely lessened the Stakes, but on the other end is going to Hell - And the Hells represented here, while seemingly mundane, I found interesting and really horrifying in some ways. You may envision Hell with fire and pitchforks - But just waking up away from your daughter and in the house of a Fling might be another kind of Hell - Like Queenie in the Fried Chicken stand - Hell isn't extreme torture, but it's the mundane awfulness of day-to-day that you need to endure for eternity. It would be like me repeating this day over and over again - Very interesting concept.

The exploration of Immortality could actually be why the two main conflicts sort of dissipated - But that, in my opinion, also means that there was just too much packed into this season.

I was sad to see Myrtle burned. But I suppose part of the point is that no sin goes unpunished...

I liked the bookend of Kyle becoming the new Butler.

The very end - Where we leave the girls - I thought was kinda lame but...

I don't know. I just think it was a relatively uneven season. Still one of the best shows on TV, but a little too uneven for me to be completely forgiving.

[neverending]

I think Kathy Bates was really under-utilized. She's one of the best actresses alive and shne didn't get to do anything really juicy after her first couple episodes.

Next season has to really be strong, since it's going to be Lange's last. The whole series should end after next season, IMO.

[Whych_Doctor<3]

I LOVED the first season!(murder house) so creepy and awesome.
The second one was okay, found myself losing concentration but got good half way through!
The third season (Coven) i felt like i'd had to force myself to watch it, some episodes were fab! but i was expecting more ::confused::
Lets just hope they throw out some other series !
Ive heard a rumor that its either between;
American Horror Story - Circus
&
American Horror Story - Orphanage

AWESOMENESS ! <3

[ChronoGrl]

I think Kathy Bates was really under-utilized. She's one of the best actresses alive and shne didn't get to do anything really juicy after her first couple episodes.

Next season has to really be strong, since it's going to be Lange's last. The whole series should end after next season, IMO.

COMPLETELY AGREE on the Kathy Bates front. In fact, I was really disappointed with how she was utilized to be completely honest. The character was actually pretty interesting - Great backstory, but she sort of became an odd prop. I felt like they didn't know what to do with her.

I had forgotten that next year will be Lange's last. That makes me sad.

[The Villain]

I think Kathy Bates was really under-utilized. She's one of the best actresses alive and shne didn't get to do anything really juicy after her first couple episodes.

Next season has to really be strong, since it's going to be Lange's last. The whole series should end after next season, IMO.

That would be disappointing. The show can live on without her

[ferretchucker]

Well, rumours suggest it'll be set in New Mexico in the 1950s and involve Jessica Lange playing a German. To me this suggests Nuclear testing and aliens which, granted they've done before, but let's face it - aliens offer a wealth of possibilities. A circus would be awesome but I think an orphanage would be too similar to season 2.

[metternich1815]

Well, rumours suggest it'll be set in New Mexico in the 1950s and involve Jessica Lange playing a German. To me this suggests Nuclear testing and aliens which, granted they've done before, but let's face it - aliens offer a wealth of possibilities. A circus would be awesome but I think an orphanage would be too similar to season 2.

I am now imagining Lange in a Nazi uniform. She would be perfect in that kind of role. I could totally picture it. Yeah, I have really enjoyed AHS so far and will be really interested in seeing the fourth season.