new matrix only for those who seen it

[last bad move]

i know its not horror but what the fuck
i just seen it and i dont understand how he killed mr smith did anyone get it or was there no reason

[Leper Messiah]

The movie was a big smelly piece of shit. It's best to just forget any questions you have about the movie and forget about the matrix.

[Arioch]

Alot of people dont understand that part, or the significance of neo dieing at the end, so they call it shitty.

He knew the only way to beat mr.smith was to sacrifice himself, ie. he let himself be infected so as he was hooked into the mainframe machine, they had a lock on the smith program. Then the main computer deletes the smith program (you can see it as it sends a jolt of electricity into neo's body).

Thus mr.smith is deleted and all the mr.smiths are destroyed. The movie leaves alot up to interpretation so alot of people dont get it and dont understand it...

Watch how many people respond to this thread saying the movie and the whole series is shit...

[Sam The Egg]

the movie would have made a lot more sense if they'd gone with the Ninja Bandit ending

[last bad move]

Originally posted by Arioch
Alot of people dont understand that part, or the significance of neo dieing at the end, so they call it shitty.

He knew the only way to beat mr.smith was to sacrifice himself, ie. he let himself be infected so as he was hooked into the mainframe machine, they had a lock on the smith program. Then the main computer deletes the smith program (you can see it as it sends a jolt of electricity into neo's body).

Thus mr.smith is deleted and all the mr.smiths are destroyed. The movie leaves alot up to interpretation so alot of people dont get it and dont understand it...

Watch how many people respond to this thread saying the movie and the whole series is shit... thanx arioch i thought it was a ok movie and the fight sene at the end was cool.
i just finished watching it again and before i read this i came up with a theory not as good as yours but here it is
when the orical tells neo that mr smith is hisopisite and the arctect is there to make balence and she is there to make it go out of balence. well what i thought is that she let mr smith take her over because she knew it would throw the matrix off balence when he took over neo, and throwing it out of balence so much as it was would kill him because the matrix needs balence

its hard to explain but i think your theory makes more sence any way

[otis]

Wow those are both good theories. Matrix Revolutions is probably my favorite movie. I love the matrix series way more than the Lord of the Rings series. I just thought Neo sacrificed all his power to kill him. But I will go with the first one you all proposed.

[last bad move]

maby where not supposed to know

[Arioch]

This is what makes the trilogy and its ending so good IMO. That its open ended, doesnt give you the typical hollywood ending, and leaves it so open to interpretation. It makes the series stronger as a whole i feal. I think youll find, as i have, the people who trash the ending and the interpretive nature of the third film wanted the matrix to be just another action movie.

While the people who like it and enjoy the trilogy for what it is, are often the people that were into the deeper significance of the movies as a whole....atleast thats been my expierence...

[Leper Messiah]

They should have left it at the first matrix. That movie was awesome. The 2nd a 3rd installments were too much bad cgi, too much bad acting, and too much meaningless conversations that didn't go anywhere. I "understood" the movie completely, just because it makes sense doesn't mean it's good.

I suppose you're all going to see chronicles of Riddick? It should be all the same crap you love from Matrix Revolutions. Vin Diesel is just as bad an actor as Keanu and it looks like half of the damn movie is going to be CGI.

[Sistinas]

I thought Pitch Black was cool,but I think i'll just wait for this one to come out on video.

[jay o2 waster]

matrix=poop

[Arioch]

They should have left it at the first matrix. That movie was awesome. The 2nd a 3rd installments were too much bad cgi, too much bad acting, and too much meaningless conversations that didn't go anywhere. I "understood" the movie completely, just because it makes sense doesn't mean it's good.

Wait, so the first one didnt have TOO MUCH cg but the second 2 DID? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight:rol leyes: The first one is complete cg as well....

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by Arioch
Wait, so the first one didnt have TOO MUCH cg but the second 2 DID? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight:rol leyes: The first one is complete cg as well....

If you think the first has more CG than the third one you're just stupid.

[cheebacheeba]

My thoughts on the matrix 3 situation.
So, it's all happened before right?
That means that there was another "one"? Maybe.
If so, there would have been another smith, or something like him in a similar role? again, maybe...
I can't remember exaclty why, but some of the stuff said in the 2nd and 3rd one gave me the distinct impression that when smith tried to "take over" Neo, the two "cancelled eachother out"....ying and yang kinda shit....hard to explain, but I thought of neo and smith kinda as counterparts on the opposite end of the spectrum...
Like u said, open to interperitation I guess...

[Arioch]

If you think the first has more CG than the third one you're just stupid.

I think they all had about equal amounts of CG, in fact i believe the second one had much more CG in the fight scenes, as the third only had 1 big fightscene. The MULTIPLE fights in the first and second had just as much CG, although they weren't flying around Dragon Ball Z style.

I don't believe there is a drastic INCREASE in CG in the second two films, the whole fucking series is based of CG....

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by Arioch
I think they all had about equal amounts of CG, in fact i believe the second one had much more CG in the fight scenes, as the third only had 1 big fightscene. The MULTIPLE fights in the first and second had just as much CG, although they weren't flying around Dragon Ball Z style.

I don't believe there is a drastic INCREASE in CG in the second two films, the whole fucking series is based of CG....

Do you remember that long part of the movie (or atleast in seemed long) where the army of zion just kept destroying wave after wave of stupid looking CG (aliens, robots, ships I don't know what they were).

The fight with neo and agent smith was so bad in this one. No pay off I was just hoping for a quick finish. What a waste of money.

[last bad move]

Originally posted by cheebacheeba
My thoughts on the matrix 3 situation.
So, it's all happened before right?
That means that there was another "one"? Maybe.
If so, there would have been another smith, or something like him in a similar role? again, maybe...
I can't remember exaclty why, but some of the stuff said in the 2nd and 3rd one gave me the distinct impression that when smith tried to "take over" Neo, the two "cancelled eachother out"....ying and yang kinda shit....hard to explain, but I thought of neo and smith kinda as counterparts on the opposite end of the spectrum...
Like u said, open to interperitation I guess... thank you that is pretty much what i was trying to say but i couldnt put it into the right words


and i dont think that the thrid one had any more cgi then the first two

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by last bad move
thank you that is pretty much what i was trying to say but i couldnt put it into the right words


and i dont think that the thrid one had any more cgi then the first two

That's because you're a moron.

[last bad move]

Originally posted by Leper Messiah
That's because you're a moron. now why did you have to go and say that. it just seems to me your saying it sucked because the cgi but i just think you just want a reason to hate it

[Leper Messiah]

Bad use of CG in this movie, that's not why I hate it though.

I hate it because it was a boring piece of shit. The dialogue was typical matrix style but they took out most of the action and replaced it with flying through the air like a fairy bullshit.



This is Matrix Revolutions

Neo: What is the matrix?
Oracle: I believe you already know the answer
Neo: Why am I here?
Oracle: You will know, when the time is right
Neo: "Insert more redundant crap"
Oracle: "Insert some vague shitty response"

Enter crappy looking CG waves of drones that get blasted away by those mechwarrior rip off type things. I can't stress how boring this part was.

Trinity dies *First good part of the movie

Neo and Smith have the most drawn out fight scene ever, I never thought a fight could be so boring.

Neo dies *last good part of the movie

[last bad move]

Originally posted by Leper Messiah
Bad use of CG in this movie, that's not why I hate it though.

I hate it because it was a boring piece of shit. The dialogue was typical matrix style but they took out most of the action and replaced it with flying through the air like a fairy bullshit.



This is Matrix Revolutions

Neo: What is the matrix?
Oracle: I believe you already know the answer
Neo: Why am I here?
Oracle: You will know, when the time is right
Neo: "Insert more redundant crap"
Oracle: "Insert some vague shitty response"

Enter crappy looking CG waves of drones that get blasted away by those mechwarrior rip off type things. I can't stress how boring this part was.

Trinity dies *First good part of the movie

Neo and Smith have the most drawn out fight scene ever, I never thought a fight could be so boring.

Neo dies *last good part of the movie ok sorry about that i can see why you dont like it at first i thought you where just ardueeing to arguee. but i guess its just the way you see it its a matter of opinion i thought it was ok but i did like the first one more also

[cheebacheeba]

I personally thought 2 & 3 could have been compressed into one "a little longer than average" movie that may have been better than both of them....that way they might not have totally run out of ideas for their gunplay scenes - I mean, upside down??? You just knew the bottom got scraped for that one. That's the one part about #3 that annoyed me the most, just left me thinking "whats the point?" It's not as though the bad guys were even making themselves harder to hit that way, or really giving themselves an advantage, they were JUST upside down.
I didn't mind the mechs, although I was left wondering why better preparations werent made in Zion "just in case" I mean, if EMPs can take them down or disable them, you'd think they'd put them in and around their city as well as in their ships in the event that the war they'd all "been waiting for" happened... anyway...
Didn't much like the whole dbz style thing, I think that smith and neo had their best fight in the first film...
I didn't hate the 2nd and 3rd films, but I have to say that I didn't enjoy either of them half as much as the first one...they just didn't have the "feel".
Nice resolution at the end of #3, but then again, I was good to go with the QUESTION MARK resolution in #1...

[Arioch]

Agreed on the upside down fight. That WAS lame, i enjoyed the mech battle scene tho. I thought that was pretty well done, dispite being despised CG:rolleyes:

[last bad move]

Originally posted by Arioch
Agreed on the upside down fight. That WAS lame, i enjoyed the mech battle scene tho. I thought that was pretty well done, dispite being despised CG:rolleyes: ya there wasnt even a point to a fight there anyway let alone the upside down thing

[Sam The Egg]

Preston/Brandt fight from Equilibrium > Neo/Smith fight from Matrix Revolutions


ah, hell, Preston/Brandt fight > Matrix Revolutions period

[Evis™]

Originally posted by Leper Messiah
The movie was a big smelly piece of shit. It's best to just forget any questions you have about the movie and forget about the matrix.

I second that.

All 3 movies sucked. Most people then refute that with "You just didn't get it!" No I got it, and it sucked.

[cheebacheeba]

Why'd it suck?
Because YOU say it did?
What are you, about 6 years old, man??
It's called a movie DISCUSSION for a reason. In order for one to adequetly discuss, shouldn't they have a basis or explanation for such statements?
I'd be interested in hearing why.





















I hope you don't take my statements to heart - I wouldn't wanna think you were a stupid DICK or anything...

[Evis™]

You spend millions of dollars on a movie and the plots suck, the acting sucks, the fight scenes suck, boring and dry, not to mention the same lines are reiderated every 10 minutes in all 3 movies.

"Why am I here?"

"Because you choose to be."

"How will I know when I'll be there?"

"You will know, because my foot will be up your ass."

[last bad move]

Originally posted by Evis™
, the acting sucks are you crasy kenue was god in bill and ted

"something is afoot at the circle k"


you just cant beat that

[cheebacheeba]

OK Evis...thanks for explaining.
I agree with you on the recycling of lines...
I myself didn't much mind the plot of #1 at all - although I DID think it more than slightly resembled "dark city" which IMO was a superior film.
I am NOT a fan of the sequels - I guess they musta thought "when plotline fails, confuse 'em".
The fight scenes - like I said before, again, the first was the best, the 2nd one had one "ok" fight scene...if that was the one with the asian guy on the tables...
I've often said that I think the first film would have had more of an impact if just left without sequels - but, there's always gotta be a cash-in right?
I enjoyed the ideas in the animatrix, and thought that some of those short films out-did the last 2 movies. The "2nd renaissance"
ones were definately the best thing the guys had done since the first film...

[jay o2 waster]

there is so much cgi in the matrix reloaded and revolutions that they could proly get away with showing it on cartoon network

[Evis™]

That's the only reason why Keanu was in the movies, because of Bill and Ted. That's all he was known for.

Now he'll be known for bullet-time.

What a jack off.

And I thought the Animatrix was equally as shitty. The movies are supposed to go along with the movies story lines. Um, no. The only one I could see going along with the movie is that first one with the chick and black dude fighting.

Matrix is nothing more than a trend.

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by Evis™
That's the only reason why Keanu was in the movies, because of Bill and Ted. That's all he was known for.


It's funny because who would of thought he would never get any better. I mean he should have come a long way since Bill and Ted, but he hasn't.

He's such a bad actor it's unbelievable, goes to show that any lucky asshole can make it in hollywood.

[jay o2 waster]

keanu reeves is a fart kmocker

[Evis™]

Originally posted by Leper Messiah
It's funny because who would of thought he would never get any better. I mean he should have come a long way since Bill and Ted, but he hasn't.

He's such a bad actor it's unbelievable, goes to show that any lucky asshole can make it in hollywood.

Agreed.

And you would think he'd change his tone of voice for at least 3 seconds. But he insists on keeping that boring mono-tone voice.

Now if I was Neo, it would be something like this....

"Why am I here?"

"Because you chose to be."

"Well no shit sherlock, but there has to be a reason, now tell me bitch."

"You know the reason."

"Obviously not. I wouldn't be asking your black ass if I knew. For someone who's all fuckin high and mighty on the food chain, you sure don't act very intelligent."

*Kicks the old bitch in the chest, does various back flips for no apparent reason, then elbow drops the retarded bitch*

"You're my bitch now, remember that."

Yup, I would've made The Matrix so much better.

[last bad move]

lol the evismatrix coming this fall

the one, evis hacks in to the matrix, saves ziaon and saves the girl all while ass fucking mr smith in the process




rated R

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by Evis™
Agreed.

And you would think he'd change his tone of voice for at least 3 seconds. But he insists on keeping that boring mono-tone voice.

Now if I was Neo, it would be something like this....

"Why am I here?"

"Because you chose to be."

"Well no shit sherlock, but there has to be a reason, now tell me bitch."

"You know the reason."

"Obviously not. I wouldn't be asking your black ass if I knew. For someone who's all fuckin high and mighty on the food chain, you sure don't act very intelligent."

*Kicks the old bitch in the chest, does various back flips for no apparent reason, then elbow drops the retarded bitch*

"You're my bitch now, remember that."

Yup, I would've made The Matrix so much better.

tack the Ninja Bandit ending onto that and you've got a ***** ending