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tic

10-11-2006, 05:06 AM

I was looking at this list of so-called "Video Nasties" (by The UK censorship Board) and was wondering how many had seen them. They all under British Titles so U.S. May be different (I've marked the ones I've seen - x) :

Absurd
Anthrpophagus The Beast
Axe
The Beast In Heat
The Beyond - x
Bloodbath - x
Bloodfeast
Blood Rites
Bloody Moon
The Bogey Man - x
The Burning - x
Cannibal Apocalypse
Cannibal Ferox
Cannibal Holocaust - x
Cannibal Man - x
Cannibal Terror
Contamination
Dead & Buried - x
Death Trap - x
Deep River Savages
Delirium - x
Devil Hunter
Don't Go In The House
Don't Go In The Woods - x
Don't Go Near The Park
Don't Look In The Basement - x
Driller Killer - x
Evil Dead - x
EvilSpeak - x
Expose
Faces Of Death
Fight For Your Life
Flesh For Frankenstein - x
Forest Of Fear
Frozen Scream
Funhouse - x
The Gestapo's Last Orgy
House By The Cemetry - x
House On The Edge Of The Park
Human Experiments
I Miss You Hugs and Kisses
I Spit On Your Grave - x
Inferno - x
Island Of Death
Killer Nun
Last House On The Left - x
Night Train Murders
Living Dead At The Manchester Morgue - x
Love Camp 7
Madhouse
Mardi Gras Massacre
Night Of The Bloody Apes
Night Of The Demon - x
Nightmare Maker
Nightmares In A Damaged Brain - x
Possession
Prisoner Of The Cannibal God
Revenge Of The Bogey Man - x
Shogun Assassin - x
The Slayer - x
Snuff - x
SS Experiment Camp
Tenebrae - x
Terror Eyes - x
Toolbox Murders
Unhinged - x
Visiting Hours - x
Werewolf & The Yeti
The Witch Who Came From The Sea - x
Women Behind Bars
Xtro - x
Zombie Creeping Flesh
Zombie Flesh Eaters - x

All good family entertainment I'm sure you'll agree.
My Personal faves are, I Spit On Your Grave, Night Of The Demon and The Burning.

Elvis_Christ

10-11-2006, 05:22 AM

The worst one I've seen is SNUFF. Haha what a piece of shit.

urgeok

10-11-2006, 05:48 AM

The Beyond - x
Bloody Moon
The Bogey Man - x
The Burning - x
Cannibal Holocaust - x
Dead & Buried - x
Delirium - x
Don't Go In The House
Don't Look In The Basement - x
Driller Killer - x
Evil Dead - x
EvilSpeak - x
Flesh For Frankenstein - x
Funhouse - x
House By The Cemetry - x
I Spit On Your Grave - x
Last House On The Left - x
Living Dead At The Manchester Morgue - x
Possession
Shogun Assassin - x
The Slayer - x
Tenebrae - x
Toolbox Murders
Visiting Hours - x
The Witch Who Came From The Sea - x
Women Behind Bars
Xtro - x

those are the only ones i've see/own ... havent heard of most of the others

_____V_____

10-11-2006, 06:29 AM

Absurd - x
Anthrpophagus The Beast - x
Axe - x
The Beast In Heat
The Beyond - x
Bloodbath - x
Bloodfeast - x
Blood Rites
Bloody Moon - x
The Bogey Man - x
The Burning - x
Cannibal Apocalypse
Cannibal Ferox - x
Cannibal Holocaust - x
Cannibal Man
Cannibal Terror
Contamination - x
Dead & Buried - x
Death Trap - x
Deep River Savages
Delirium - x
Devil Hunter
Don't Go In The House
Don't Go In The Woods
Don't Go Near The Park
Don't Look In The Basement - x
Driller Killer - x
Evil Dead - x
EvilSpeak - x
Expose
Faces Of Death - x (excellent series of movies)
Fight For Your Life - x
Flesh For Frankenstein
Forest Of Fear - x
Frozen Scream
Funhouse - x
The Gestapo's Last Orgy
House By The Cemetry - x
House On The Edge Of The Park - x
Human Experiments
I Miss You Hugs and Kisses - x
I Spit On Your Grave - x
Inferno - x
Island Of Death - x
Killer Nun
Last House On The Left - x
Night Train Murders
Living Dead At The Manchester Morgue
Love Camp 7
Madhouse - x
Mardi Gras Massacre
Night Of The Bloody Apes - x
Night Of The Demon - x
Nightmare Maker
Nightmares In A Damaged Brain
Possession - x
Prisoner Of The Cannibal God
Revenge Of The Bogey Man - x
Shogun Assassin - x
The Slayer - x
Snuff - x
SS Experiment Camp
Tenebrae - x
Terror Eyes
Toolbox Murders - x
Unhinged
Visiting Hours - x
Werewolf & The Yeti
The Witch Who Came From The Sea
Women Behind Bars
Xtro - x
Zombie Creeping Flesh - x
Zombie Flesh Eaters - x

Thats as far as I know, have some of em on my list too tho...but Toolbox Murders, The Beyond, Tenebrae in this list...looks like someone in the Queen's Land has a real soft heart...:rolleyes:

tic

10-11-2006, 08:45 AM

Tell me about it! If someone sneezes in a film then "oh, it's a health hazard, maybe in the interests of public safety we should ban it".

They can't be doing a particularlly great job when as i in the post i have seen a few of them (Uncut versions)

zwoti

10-11-2006, 09:39 AM

you missed out

pranks

and

night train murders was called late night trains

tic

10-11-2006, 10:07 AM

you missed out

pranks

and

night train murders was called late night trains

yeah, i know - (Pranks) seen it as well.

The Mothman

10-11-2006, 11:34 AM

urgeok

10-11-2006, 11:45 AM

hopefully we're not at the point where we're judging people on what video nastys they've seen or not.

tic

10-11-2006, 11:53 AM

Absurd - x

The Beyond - x

Cannibal Ferox - x
Cannibal Holocaust - x

Evil Dead - x

House By The Cemetry - x

Last House On The Left - x

Night Of The Demon - x

Zombie Creeping Flesh - x
Zombie Flesh Eaters - x

damn.....i am a loser..
o well. i mostly watch movies that absolutley no one has heard about, so that gives me an exuse for not knowing that many of these.

Maybe it's an age thing?
I saw most of them when i was perhaps a little too young to understand what all the fuss was about (12 or 13). When VHS first came out, we were one of the first in our street to get a VCR and rented 2 or 3 films a night. Just happened that some of films we got happened to be the banned ones. I think most of them are available if you know where to look (mostly heavily cut); I've still got the original "The Burning" (Uncut Version) including the infamous cutting the fingers off scene with the garden shears, lovely!

doctor satan

10-11-2006, 11:59 AM

Growing up in the age of the tyranny that was the Video Nasties debate & having seen or owned the majority of films on the BBFC register, you can't really call this thread "the Return..." Your not likely to likely to see these type of films again not while those soulless bastards in Hollywood keep pumping out safe pg13 horror.
The true Nasties had lashings of gratuitous sex & violence & not forgetting needless animal cruelty the staple diet of the Italian gutmunchers.
i'm getting all emotional here......happy days!

crippler666

10-11-2006, 06:17 PM

Absurd
Anthrpophagus The Beast - x
Axe
The Beast In Heat
The Beyond - x
Bloodbath - x
Bloodfeast
Blood Rites
Bloody Moon
The Bogey Man - x
The Burning - x
Cannibal Apocalypse - x
Cannibal Ferox - x
Cannibal Holocaust - x
Cannibal Man
Cannibal Terror - x
Contamination
Dead & Buried - x
Death Trap - x
Deep River Savages
Delirium - x
Devil Hunter
Don't Go In The House
Don't Go In The Woods
Don't Go Near The Park - x
Don't Look In The Basement
Driller Killer - x
Evil Dead - x
EvilSpeak - x
Expose
Faces Of Death - x
Fight For Your Life
Flesh For Frankenstein
Forest Of Fear
Frozen Scream
Funhouse - x
The Gestapo's Last Orgy
House By The Cemetry - x
House On The Edge Of The Park - x
Human Experiments
I Miss You Hugs and Kisses
I Spit On Your Grave - x
Inferno - x
Island Of Death - x
Killer Nun
Last House On The Left - x
Night Train Murders
Living Dead At The Manchester Morgue - x
Love Camp 7
Madhouse - x
Mardi Gras Massacre
Night Of The Bloody Apes
Night Of The Demon - x
Nightmare Maker - x
Nightmares In A Damaged Brain - x
Possession
Prisoner Of The Cannibal God
Revenge Of The Bogey Man - x
Shogun Assassin - x
The Slayer - x
Snuff
SS Experiment Camp
Tenebrae - x
Terror Eyes - x
Toolbox Murders - x
Unhinged
Visiting Hours - x
Werewolf & The Yeti
The Witch Who Came From The Sea
Women Behind Bars
Xtro - x
Zombie Creeping Flesh
Zombie Flesh Eaters - x

The ones I have seen.... A couple more for the list (as far as I am aware):

Mother's Day: a bunch of interbred hill billies rape and murder women (hey I can call them that as the family admit to having sex with each other during the film, hence interbred).

Don't Torture a Duckling: has had an American release, but still waiting in the UK.

The Mothman

10-11-2006, 06:50 PM

Maybe it's an age thing?

its more of a time thing. ive only been collecting for 2 years, plus i only buy and dont rent so it stunts the amount a movies i see in a certain amount of time.

Davids

07-17-2007, 01:33 PM

A list of several good o'l nasties. Any recomendations from this list? Many of the movies sounds good but i doubt they all are...

http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/nasties.htm

scarecrow666

07-18-2007, 06:35 AM

If you can get ALL of them UNCUT and cheep ,then go for all of them. But it depends on what you want out of it . My 2 cents anyway.

alkytrio666

07-18-2007, 06:39 AM

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you want a real video nasty, watch Nekromantik.

Even the mention of it makes my dick shrivel.

Davids

07-18-2007, 09:46 AM

hehe...i remember i saw Necromantik 6-7 years ago. Promised my self i'd never watch it again, but i think i wanna watch it again just to see if it was as nasty as i remeber..

alkytrio666

07-18-2007, 12:08 PM

hehe...i remember i saw Necromantik 6-7 years ago. Promised my self i'd never watch it again, but i think i wanna watch it again just to see if it was as nasty as i remeber..
Haha, good sport.

But David, I'll warn you...it is as nasty as you remember!

Another one that was brought up recently here is Hei tai yang 731, known elsewhere as Men Behind the Sun. It'll knot you up. Give it a go if you're really looking for nasty.

Davids

07-19-2007, 12:53 AM

Another one that was brought up recently here is Hei tai yang 731, known elsewhere as Men Behind the Sun. It'll knot you up. Give it a go if you're really looking for nasty.

I think Men Behind The Sun is a good movie :) But it's nasty, i give you that!

corpse_grinder

07-19-2007, 01:19 AM

Dudes ... where can I get my hands on these movies?? They sound like real must sees!! :D

Shazbut

07-19-2007, 01:20 AM

I think Men Behind The Sun is a good movie :) But it's nasty, i give you that!

I cant watch video nasties based on true events - atrocities dont do it for me!
Fantasy is far more entertaining IMO.

ManchestrMorgue

07-19-2007, 04:36 AM

Dudes ... where can I get my hands on these movies?? They sound like real must sees!! :D

Some of these movies are available locally (eg Last House on the Left, Zombie Holocaust, Cannibal Ferox, Cannibal Holocaust, I Spit on Your Grave, Tenebrae, Zombie Flesh Eaters, Snuff, Flesh For Frankenstein, The Beyond, Blood Feast, Evil Dead, Driller Killer, etc). Amazon will satisfy your craving for many others.

The right column of the article has links to many of them at either the Amazon US or UK site.

Not sure if any are still banned in Australia, but some definitely were (eg Cannibal Holocaust until last year...)

_____V_____

10-11-2010, 10:47 AM

It was an era that remains notorious to this day and gave Sam Raimi some widespread publicity when he was just a young kid making goofy horror films in the backwoods of Michigan.

Now the Video Nasty era is subject of a new collection and documentary. Video Nasties: The Definitive Guide directed by Jake West and Marc Morris, which is released by Nucleus Films on 1st November.

The film-makers cut together 72 horror films that were successfully prosecuted for corrupting the nation. The folks over at FilmShaft have seen it and they can firmly say it’s a brilliant and intelligent montage of not particularly brilliant and intelligent cinema. But there in lies the mystery and repulsion.

If you want the version longue there’s a four hour cut featuring intros from leading horror critics like the ace Kim Newman and Alan Jones. Also on the extra features is a feature-length documentary VIDEO NASTIES: MORAL PANIC, CENSORSHIP & VIDEOTAPE. So if you know your SS Experiment Camp from your Driller Killer, you’ll be in gorehound heaven.

Jake West, director of the documentary and co-owner of Nucleus Films, says:

“The Video Nasties era was the most shameful time in British film history that lead to the Video Recordings Act being enforced under false information. People went to prison and lost their livelihoods because of what happened and that, unfortunately, still has a bearing on what is going on today. Hopefully, what Marc (Morris) and I have served up is a pleasurable but timely reminder that we need to be aware of the kind of rhetoric being used around issues of censorship”.

Check out the trailer and repeat to yourself: it’s only a video montage, it’s only a video montage, it’s only… you get the idea...

http://www.filmshaft.com/video-nasties-the-definite-guide-trailer/

TheWickerFan

10-11-2010, 11:00 AM

Looks like fun.:)

Ferox13

10-11-2010, 11:27 PM

I love this piece of history - it was very much part of my youth...I did my college dissertation on this and the 90's witch hunt being used to fuel Media moral Panics...

Must get this - I love Kim Newman..

ManchestrMorgue

10-12-2010, 04:49 AM

Thanks for the heads-up on this one, ___V___.

Looks like it would be an interesting viewing. I have been interested in the "video nasties" history, probably because Australia still struggles with a fairly draconian censorship.

It would be interesting to get an insight into some of the "video nasty" films that I haven't managed to see yet.

HardCoreKid

11-13-2010, 04:27 AM

Here is a list of the banned and controverial films that i own.

A Clockwork Orange
Antropophagus
Antichrist
AXE
Barbed Wire Dolls
Bay of Blood
Begotten
Black Sunday
Blood On Satans Claw
Cannibal Apocalypse
Cannibal Ferox I
Cannibal Ferox II
Cannibal Holocaust
Cannibal Man
Chopper
Contamination
Dead and Buried
Deep River Savages
Diary of a Sinner
Driller Killer
Faces of Death
Gozu
Hitch Hike
House on the Edge of The Park
Ichi The Killer
Ilsa She Wolf Collection
I Spit on Your Grave
Island of Death
Jungle Holocaust
Last house on The Left
Martyrs
Men Behind The Sun
Mountain Of The Cannibal God
Natural Born Killers
Nekromantik
Peeping Tom
Romper Stomper
Scum
Snuff
SS Camp Womens Hell
Taxidermia
Tetsuo The Iron Man
The Candy Snatchers
The Beyond
The Witch Who Came From The Sea
Titicut Follies
Traces of Death
Traces of Death II
Vistor Q
Weekend
Women Behind Bars

If you know any other good video nasties please recommend them :D

TheWickerFan

11-13-2010, 04:44 AM

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30312

HardCoreKid

11-13-2010, 04:50 AM

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30312

O_O im in heaven.....

I'm around people who share my passion xD i believe i have over 450 horror movies alone

Thecryptkeeper

11-09-2011, 08:54 AM

Hey guys, I was just wondering what some of your favourite exploitation and video nasties were.

Some of my favourites are:
House on the Edge of the Park
Cannibal Holocaust
The Toolbox Murders (original)
Zombie Holocaust
The Driller Killer

The list continues, but I'll post more as the thread goes on. :)

ZombieDrone

11-09-2011, 09:08 AM

....hmmmm...on the Nasties list...

Can't go wrong with Blood Feast. Pure schlocky exploitation at it's best. Only offensive to people who can't contextualise violence and approaches to violence.

The Beyond and it's sister, House By The Cemetery (still a complete mystery, other than probable inconsistansy on a large scale, why City Of The Living Dead wasn't a nasty if the other two films in Fulci's "trilogy" are...)

Zombie Flesh Eaters (Zombi 2) Zombie Vs. Shark, afterall...

Tenebre, a brilliant Giallo film.

And of course, who doesn't love The Evil Dead.

Planning on getting Inferno soon. I saw a copy of Posession on the shelves of HMV today. Broke my heart that I didn't have the cash to buy it as it's probably quite difficult to find as a DVD on a shop shelf. Ah well, I'll probably buy it soon...

Thecryptkeeper

11-09-2011, 10:27 AM

ZombieDrone

11-09-2011, 10:40 AM

Love all of those movies. Out of the three Fulci films I'd have to go with The Beyond as my favourite, it has a very ominous atmosphere and the end scene just does it for me. While I enjoyed both City of the Living Dead and House by the Cemetery, I found the stories a little more difficult to follow.

Zombi and The Evil Dead are both classics and are some of my favourite movies.

I haven't heard of Possession.

Although not exactly a Video Nasty, I really enjoy Blue Sunshine, a film that shows what could happen when experimenting with LSD. Very creepy and recommended.

Possession was on the Video Nasties list and it's one of the more bizarre titles in more ways than one.

First of all, it's very odd. It's an art film, basically, and it relies on surrealism.

That it is an art film is also makes it an odd inclusion on the list. Admittedly not all of Nasties were completely horror films (though pretty much all of them floated around horror somewhere, Posession included.) but it's also, arguably the most "prestigious" film on the list. It starred a high-calibre cast in Sam Neill and Isabelle Adjani who, I believe, even won an award at Cannes for her work on the film (although, of course, both worked in horror films, especially around this period) and had a very revered director in Andzrej Zulawski.

It also featured the work of special effects artist, Carlo Rambaldi who was working on E.T around the same time. Although Rambaldi worked on his share of horror films, including fellow Nasty, Bay Of Blood.

TheWickerFan

11-09-2011, 11:36 AM

fortunato

11-09-2011, 02:16 PM

Yeah, big-time rec on Possession. It's a brilliant mess of a film.
I hear-tell that it's going to be re-released on DVD at some point in the near future.

Thecryptkeeper

11-09-2011, 03:46 PM

Ilsa She Wolf Of The SS
Salo The 120 Days Of Sodom
The Devils
(not video nasties, just exploitation)

Incredibly, Dead And Buried was a video nasty. That was a criminally underrated film.

I'll second Possession, Tenebre, and Evil Dead.

I curse myself for not picking up Salo when I had the chance. Also been meaning to check The Devils.

Dead and Buried is great and very underrated indeed! But apparently Stan Winston's effects are too realistic for the BBFC.

Another great Nasty was Living Dead at Manchester Morgue, also very underrated.

fortunato

11-09-2011, 07:18 PM

Also been meaning to check The Devils.

Huge rec for The Devils along with Possession, although I certainly wouldn't call either one exploitation.

ZombieDrone

11-09-2011, 11:06 PM

Huge rec for The Devils along with Possession, although I certainly wouldn't call either one exploitation.

True, but I mentioned Posession because it's a Video Nasty.

Thecryptkeeper

11-10-2011, 11:15 AM

Have you guys seen any Nazisploitation at all?

Q...

11-10-2011, 12:21 PM

How about Sweet Movie and Pink Flamingos? I'm not entirely sure what is considered exploitation, as there are so many variations of it, but I'm sure those fit in somewhere.

There is also an excellent documentary called Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SICK:_The_Life_%26_Death_of_Bob_Flanagan,_Supermas ochist) which Wiki lists as exploitation (or, more specifically, shocksploitation). I was surprised to see it listed there actually - yes, it's entirely shocking, but it is also real - it doesn't just look real. But anyway, it's great, so I recommend it.

fortunato

11-10-2011, 07:19 PM

True, but I mentioned Posession because it's a Video Nasty.

Oh yeah, I know. I was just saying for anyone that hasn't seen it.
And actually, I think the version of Possession that was circulated during the Video Nasty era was a horribly edited one that cut out a lot of the plot between Sam Neill and Isabelle Adjani; it mainly focused on her seducing men and feeding them to the creature. Which is a shame.

There is also an excellent documentary called Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SICK:_The_Life_%26_Death_of_Bob_Flanagan,_Supermas ochist) which Wiki lists as exploitation (or, more specifically, shocksploitation). I was surprised to see it listed there actually - yes, it's entirely shocking, but it is also real - it doesn't just look real. But anyway, it's great, so I recommend it.

I'd definitely recommend that one, too, and like you said with the caveat that some of the content is rough. Despite the nature of Bob's life, the film is actually quite touching and intimate, and the ending is really intensely affecting.

Ferox13

11-11-2011, 03:10 AM

Have you guys seen any Nazisploitation at all?

Yah, Fraulein Docktor!!

Thecryptkeeper

11-11-2011, 05:09 PM

Yah, Fraulein Docktor!!

Can ya recommend me any of them

I recently watched The Corpse Grinders, really campy, but a fun movie nonetheless.

Ferox13

11-13-2011, 12:30 AM

Can ya recommend me any of them
.

Ok here goes***

Despite me being a big fan of the genre 90% of the films are pretty shit.

The best of the bunch by a mile is of course Ilsa She wolf of the SS. (you should have course check out its sequals Ilsa Harem Keeper of the Oil sheiks, Greta the Mad Butcher and Ilsa Tigress of Siberia - though the latter is the weakest in the series). There is an ok rip off called 'Helga, She Wolf of Spilberg'.

Now the standards drop a lot..LOL.

Personally, I like The Gestapo's Last Orgy. Its a bit artier than the others and trys to rip off 'Night Porter'. 'SS Experiment Camp' is worth checking out for the cheesey dialogue (though its pretty tame).

You should watch LOVE CAMP 7 for historical purposes - its (to my knowledge) the first of the genre. Its pretty dull but does have David Friedman as the very camp comander :-)

There were 3 of the genre banned in the UK as part of the Video Nasty witch hunt. The already mentioned 'SS Experiment Camp' as well as 'The Beast in Heat' and 'Deported Women of the SS Special Section'. Beast has some great scenes mostly envolving Sal Boris - a pussy eating caged cannibal. Unfortunelly the rest of the movie is like watching paint dry. Deported Women is slightly better especially to those with a showering/shaving fetish :-).

Prolly the last of the Camp genre should should see is SS Camp 5 and Womans Camp 119 (by Bruno Mattei). As far as I remember the latter was pretty meant spirited. Can't remember much of Holocaust 2 - so that says a lot. I have never seen 'Nathalie, Fugitive from Hell' but its another Camp film. Also never see 'SS Cutthroats'.

Unless desperate avoid 'Achtung! The Desert Tigers' and 'Fraunleins in Uniform'.

Now there is a kinda subgenre of this genre inspired by Salon Kitty - a brothel in Berlin during WW2 that ws used to spy on the Nazi brass. So there is a dozen or so Brothel/Joy Divison type films. And boy are they the dregs.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kR9bqbCvgeI/TdJwTuXpMYI/AAAAAAAAAGk/Mc_8la9ZYgA/s1600/Red+Nights+of+the+Gestapo+3.jpg

The only one I can really recommend is Tinto Brass' film Salon Kitty. This followed with a ton of crap like:

Elsa: Fraulein SS (Salon kitty on a on a train)
SS Helltrain (damn Nazi Brothel Trains should be a sub genre)
The Red Nights of the Gestapo
Nazi Love Camp 27
SS Girls

I was considering getting a Tshirt of this ( i dunno if I'd get away with it though):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Aw1eqlUQqds/TYFsaBg7LuI/AAAAAAAAOGE/ZYsmbAQN-OI/s400/affiche-SS-Camp-5-l-enfer-des-femmes-SS-Lager-5-L-inferno-delle-donne-1976-1.jpg

*** its kinda hard to keep track of all these film as they kinda all melt into one. Also keep in mind lots of these films have been released under a few different titles...

fortunato

11-13-2011, 07:55 AM

Can ya recommend me any of them

I haven't seen all of the ones that Ferox mentioned, but I would second recommendations on Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS and Salon Kitty. Those are probably the two easiest to find, anyway. I know Blue Underground just re-released Salon Kitty on Blu-ray and DVD. Ilsa, well, you might have to acquire that through other means.

ZombieDrone

11-13-2011, 08:09 AM

Deported Women Of The SS isn't on the Nasties list. Gestapo's Last Orgy is (and will likely remain banned in the UK for a long time from what I've seen and heard of it.)

I do have an interest in films around Nazis, although purely in historical and non-exploitative terms (Das Boot and Downfall are two of my favourite war films and from a non-German perspective I'm an Indiana Jones fan and loved Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds, big budget but with a pure explotation ethos). But I've never seen a Nazisploitation film. I remember a few years ago (before I was that much into horror) coming across a copy of SS Experiment Camp and thinking how violent and disturbing a film called that would be. I wasn't alone, as there were a few articles in the news a couple of years ago about films with those sorts of names.

However, from what I've seen, it's remarkably tame. The violence seems almost lacking in gore and there's crazy Dirty Dozen-esque battle sequences. Like TCM, it's a film who's title is far more shocking than what is shown...or rather not shown.

Thecryptkeeper

11-13-2011, 08:20 AM

Thanks alot guys, I've been meaning to pick up the SS triple features released by Shriek Show, but sadly they are pretty hard to come by in my neck of the woods :(

On the topic of tame Video Nasties, Lenzi's 'cannibal film', Man From Deep River is a great adventure film. However, there is hardly enough cannibalism to satisfy Gorehounds. I'm guessing the film was banned mostly due to the frequent scenes of animal cruelty. Nonetheless, still a great movie that led to even greater movies. (Cannibal and Jungle Holocaust)

Sistinas666

11-13-2011, 08:32 AM

fortunato

11-13-2011, 08:53 AM

Stupid question time, aren't video nasties a list of movies that were banned in the UK at some time or is this a horror genre? I've only seen a few of the films that have been mentioned. I've seen video nasties mentioned here several times but I've never been totally clear on what they are.:confused:

Yeah, the "Video Nasties" were a list of films that were banned by the Video Recordings Act of 1984 in England. It was another instance of mass "witch hunt" mentality, similar to what was seen here in the States in the 1950s, with the horror/crime comics. The big difference here is that while the Comics Code was merely self-imposed by the industry, the Video Recordings Act was enforced by law, and people were actually imprisoned. Some proprietors of video rental stores that had maybe one of these on their shelves were put out of business. If you can get your hands on it, you should check out the documentary Video Nasties: Moral Panic, Censorship, & Videotape. I believe it's only had an R2 release, but you might be able to find it somewhere online.

A.R. Wise

11-13-2011, 08:56 AM

fortunato

11-13-2011, 08:57 AM

Here's the list of films:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_nasty#DPP_list

Sistinas666

11-13-2011, 09:31 AM

Here's the list of films:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_nasty#DPP_list

Cool, thanks for the link! I bookmarked that page and i'm going to see what I can find on Netflix. I've only seen a few of these:

Cannibal Holocaust
Dead & Buried
Evil Dead
Faces Of Death
I Spit On Your Grave
The Funhouse
The Last House On The Left

Ferox13

11-13-2011, 09:51 AM

I know people always bring up Cannibal Holocaust when talking about this type of movie, but I thought that one went a little too far. The animal killing just made the film too disgusting, even for me.

Animals are kept in poor conditions and slaughtered for food all the time and though I cannot condone the killing of a turtle, a pig and muskrat for the purposes of a film I think its a small drop compared to supermarkets filled with veal, foi gras and battery chickens.

Cannibal Holocaust is an amazing film and though the killing of a few beasts is regrettable. As least the turtle and pig were eaten by cast and crew which I can't see as any worse than buying a battery chicken from Walmart. But peace out to the (fake)muskrat, spider and snake who might have died in vein.

fortunato

11-13-2011, 11:21 AM

Cool, thanks for the link! I bookmarked that page and i'm going to see what I can find on Netflix. I've only seen a few of these:

Cannibal Holocaust
Dead & Buried
Evil Dead
Faces Of Death
I Spit On Your Grave
The Funhouse
The Last House On The Left

My personal recommendations would be:

Axe, Don't Look in the Basement, Flesh for Frankenstein, The House by the Cemetery, Inferno, Possession, Tenebre, Blood Feast, The Beyond, and Bay of Blood.

Thecryptkeeper

11-13-2011, 03:37 PM

Cool, thanks for the link! I bookmarked that page and i'm going to see what I can find on Netflix. I've only seen a few of these:

Cannibal Holocaust
Dead & Buried
Evil Dead
Faces Of Death
I Spit On Your Grave
The Funhouse
The Last House On The Left

Those are all great movies. I recommend The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue (Let Sleeping Corpses Lie), Don't go into the Woods Alone (for hilarity mostly), Maniac, Fulci's zombie movies (City of the Living Dead, House by the Cemetery, The Beyond, and Zombi 2) as well as some of his other films like The New York Ripper and Touch of Death.

Ferox13

11-14-2011, 12:23 AM

My personal recommendations would be:

Axe, Don't Look in the Basement, Flesh for Frankenstein, The House by the Cemetery, Inferno, Possession, Tenebre, Blood Feast, The Beyond, and Bay of Blood.

Wow, I never heard of anyone liking Axe...

I wonder how Forest of Fear ended up on the list.

ZombieDrone

11-14-2011, 01:02 AM

Wow, I never heard of anyone liking Axe...

I wonder how Forest of Fear ended up on the list.

I wonder that with Dead & Buried...and Inferno...and The Beyond...

Elvis_Christ

11-14-2011, 01:08 AM

I wonder how Forest of Fear ended up on the list.

It was considered a public menace because it bored nearly everyone who watched it to DEATH.

Chief Brody

11-14-2011, 10:33 AM

Incredibly, Dead And Buried was a video nasty. That was a criminally underrated film.

I've never understood why this became one of the nasties. It's well made, produced and acted - everything the nasties aren't. I can understand it having some censoring to the first murder, but nothing more.

Elvis_Christ

11-14-2011, 02:05 PM

Sistinas666

11-14-2011, 02:22 PM

I know this isn't a video nasty but it almost seemed like a tribute to me:

Isle Of The Damned....It seems the story kind of parodied Cannibal Holocaust and is more comedy than exploitation...Its currently available on Netflix instant queue...:cool:

fortunato

11-14-2011, 04:21 PM

Wow, I never heard of anyone liking Axe...

Haha, yeah. Me neither, except me. I probably shouldn't have recommended it, because no one that I've shown it to enjoyed it. I don't know why, I just always liked it. It has a strange, understated rhythm to it that I've always been able to get into. I know a lot of people find it boring, and I guess not much happens, but it's just always gotten to me for some reason.

Elvis_Christ

11-14-2011, 05:39 PM

Chief Brody

11-14-2011, 10:15 PM

Couple of nasty kill scenes did it I'm guessing.... like the one with the syringe.

Yes, forgot about the syringe. But as i say, you think those couple of seens would have been censored rather than baning the whole film.

Ferox13

11-15-2011, 12:17 AM

I've never understood why this became one of the nasties. It's well made, produced and acted - everything the nasties aren't. I can understand it having some censoring to the first murder, but nothing more....

Yes, forgot about the syringe. But as i say, you think those couple of seens would have been censored rather than baning the whole film.

The video nasty list wasn't anything to do with the censorship board. It was made by Director of Public Prosecutions under the Obscene Publications Act. There a number of films on the list that were already censored (by the BBFC for a cinema release) or self censored by the distibution company.

Cannibal Holocaust, Faces of Death and Nightmares in a Damaged Brain among others were all banned despite being cut. The poor UK distributor of Nightmares got 6 months in prison for supplying a censored print.

ZombieDrone

11-15-2011, 01:00 AM

It was a crap shoot essentially. I feel that virtually any horror film made past-1960 could've potentially crossed the line.

I relate it to the DPP's attitude towards Tobe Hooper.

Hooper had two films in the list, I believe. He's by no means the only director to have more than one film on the list. Dario Argento had 2 (Inferno, Tenebre) so did Ruggero Deodato (Cannibal Holocaust, House On The Edge Of The Park) Lucio Fulci had 3 (The Beyond, House By The Cemetery, Zombie Flesh Eaters) Jess Franco had god knows how many.

Anyway, the two films that Hooper had on the list were Death Trap and Funhouse. The story behind Funhouse ending up on the list (so far as I've heard) was that there were two films circulating around that time with the title, Funhouse. One was Hooper's film, the other was also known as Last House On Dead End Street. I believe that the the DPP looked at these two films and thought that it was obviously the film by the man who made such "obscene" films as the Texas Chainsaw Massacre...they banned the wrong film.

The hysteria around TCM is also considered the reason why they also banned The Toolbox Murders, Axe, Pranks and Driller Killer for their use of home implements as weapons in the film or in advertising (I'm sure if you were going to kill someone with something you could find in the home, you wouldn't wait for a film to give you the idea).

The odd thing is, is that whilst it was technically banned, TCM was never officially a "Nasty" and as such was perfectly legal to be circulated in it's un-certificated VHS release...madness.

Heaven knows, had the craze held out a little longer perhaps Poltergeist would've been a Nasty.

Ferox13

11-15-2011, 01:44 AM

Anyway, the two films that Hooper had on the list were Death Trap and Funhouse. The story behind Funhouse ending up on the list (so far as I've heard) was that there were two films circulating around that time with the title, Funhouse. One was Hooper's film, the other was also known as Last House On Dead End Street. I believe that the the DPP looked at these two films and thought that it was obviously the film by the man who made such "obscene" films as the Texas Chainsaw Massacre...they banned the wrong film..

I read this on Melon Farmers too and i always confused me as Last House didn't have a UK release back then. Maybe they were refering to a bootleg tape or film release but they should have known that there was no version of the film available in UK video shops at the time...

That being said they did confiscate 'innocent' films all the time based on title alone.

Thecryptkeeper

11-15-2011, 05:22 PM

Some of the Nasties were even banned due to their UK VHS artwork.

Sistinas666

11-15-2011, 09:13 PM

Thank all of you, not only did I discover the meaning of "video nasty" but I also got an excellent list of movies to search for.:) Sorry for sounding cheesy but my meds just kicked in and I'm a happy fella....:D

Ferox13

11-15-2011, 10:39 PM

Some of the Nasties were even banned due to their UK VHS artwork.

Really? Some did come to the attention of the authorites but I can't think of a single film that was banned because of the case cover. What ones are you thinking of?

leezuki

11-16-2011, 12:28 AM

driller killer was one of the covers that got alot of attention.

Fearonsarms

11-16-2011, 03:50 AM

According to Video Nasties:Moral Panic, Censorship....when the Uk police raided video stores-they had no idea what films were actually on the list so they would confiscate and put out of business sellers who had things like "The Last Little Whorehouse In Texas" an anodyne Dolly Parton flick on their shelves. I think it was more of a case of the authorities not liking independant business owners and distributors making so much money.

Anyway my faves on the list:

The Beyond
House By The Cemetary
Dead and Buried
Possession
The New York Ripper
Inferno
Tenebrae
The House On The Edge Of The Park
Nightmares In A Damaged Brain
The Funhouse (I think at the beginning when the teens were smoking pot while driving was what upset the censors as well as it being a Tobe Hooper film as already mentioned)
Death Trap
Evil Dead
The Hills Have Eyes
Exploitation:

Salo
Last House On Dead End Street
Ilsa:She Wolf Of The SS (thanks ferox for the info on the sequals me and mate are gonna watch them back to back soon)
The Devils (I know there;s more to it than exploitation)
The Killer Nun (also a video nasty)

Thecryptkeeper

11-17-2011, 09:22 AM

Really? Some did come to the attention of the authorites but I can't think of a single film that was banned because of the case cover. What ones are you thinking of?

The Driller Killer was one of the films that authorities banned due to the overly gory and misleading cover art (the guy getting the drill pushed into his head)

There were a few more but I'm not at my house this week so I'm unable to give you the full list as I left the article at home.

Ferox13

11-17-2011, 12:18 PM

The Driller Killer was one of the films that authorities banned due to the overly gory and misleading cover art (the guy getting the drill pushed into his head)

There were a few more but I'm not at my house this week so I'm unable to give you the full list as I left the article at home.

Really, are you sure about that?

What 'authorities' are you talking about?

I do know that the film Driller Killer was sent to the DPP and was banned but it was nothing to do with the cover.

ZombieDrone

11-17-2011, 02:10 PM

Really, are you sure about that?

What 'authorities' are you talking about?

I do know that the film Driller Killer was sent to the DPP and was banned but it was nothing to do with the cover.

...Well there was certainly some controversy with the cover when it was advertised in various trade magazines (it was one of the controversies that got the Nasties ball rolling) but I've never heard officially that any film was banned just for the art. However, I think that it may have been the case for a few films, such was the hysteria that was brewing.

Keep in mind that Mary Whitehouse herself, without any shame, once voiced in an interview that she'd never seen a Video Nasty and that she didn't have to see that something was obscene to know it was...which I think completely undermines her argument but c'est la vie.

fortunato

11-17-2011, 09:07 PM

Keep in mind that Mary Whitehouse herself, without any shame, once voiced in an interview that she'd never seen a Video Nasty and that she didn't have to see that something was obscene to know it was...which I think completely undermines her argument but c'est la vie.

It certainly did undermine her argument, but it didn't matter; the mindset was already in place. In fact, there were so many inconsistencies and contradictions on the part of all the advocates, but it didn't seem to matter. One of the things I loved about the Video Nasties documentary was how they gathered a bunch of clips illustrating this.

fortunato

11-19-2011, 09:17 PM

Ferox13

11-20-2011, 12:11 AM

A lot of people mentioned Ken Russell's The Devils in this thread, so just in case you didn't see it in the Upcoming DVDs thread:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/143

BFI will be releasing the UK X certificate version on DVD on March 19 with a bunch of extras. Bad news, it may not be entirely uncut from Russell's original print and WB (the assholes) won't let BFI use the 2004 restoration either. But it's something, I guess.

The correspondence between Russell and James Ferman over the cutting of The Devils was hilarious. Ii was mentioned in some old documentry I saw and just recently in the Timeshift episode, Dear Censor.

Fearonsarms

11-20-2011, 04:13 AM

The correspondence between Russell and James Ferman over the cutting of The Devils was hilarious. Ii was mentioned in some old documentry I saw and just recently in the Timeshift episode, Dear Censor.

Yes we are very lucky that some of the correspondances were made public-sadly we will never see them all.

TheWickerFan

12-03-2011, 02:53 AM

I finally managed to see a Teruo Ishii film, The Joy Of Torture 2 Oxen Split Torture.

The movie certainly delivers on its promise. I guess there were a couple of scenes that made me wince and look away, but overall it had a surprisingly humorous tone and didn't take itself too seriously. A really good exploitation film.

I dare say, if it had come to the attention of the Mary Whitehouse clan, it would have made the nasty list for sure.

Ferox13

12-03-2011, 07:08 AM

I dare say, if it had come to the attention of the Mary Whitehouse clan, it would have made the nasty list for sure.

It nver got a UK VHS release (either did any of the Ilsa moves but they 2 of them got banned from the cinema).

TheWickerFan

12-03-2011, 07:44 AM

It nver got a UK VHS release (either did any of the Ilsa moves but they 2 of them got banned from the cinema).

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. These films are very hard to come by in the US, though I don't think they've been banned.

leezuki

12-03-2011, 08:58 AM

a couple of modern video nasties

a serbian film
august underground

some old ones

the burning moon
guiniea pig movies
schramm
baise moi

i found most of the movies they banned from the video nasties list were crap movies, there were a few good movies but back then they were just getting movies banned left right and centre, when most of them wernt even that bad.

Elvis_Christ

12-12-2011, 10:56 PM

I finally managed to see a Teruo Ishii film, The Joy Of Torture 2 Oxen Split Torture.

Quite fond of Teruo Ishii's stuff. Such vivid imagery and cinematography.

Ferox13

12-13-2011, 05:06 AM

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. These films are very hard to come by in the US, though I don't think they've been banned.

I have the 3 Ilsa films on American DVD (Tigress didn't get a release there).

Do films get banned in the States now? How does it work?

I know the MPAA can refuse a cert but the film can still be released unrated (I know this will affect its profits as many cinemas wouldn't show unrated films and some stores don't carry them either).

TheWickerFan

12-13-2011, 06:11 AM

I have the 3 Ilsa films on American DVD (Tigress didn't get a release there).

Do films get banned in the States now? How does it work?

I know the MPAA can refuse a cert but the film can still be released unrated (I know this will affect its profits as many cinemas wouldn't show unrated films and some stores don't carry them either).

I'm honestly not sure (maybe Neverending knows the process). I haven't heard of a film being banned outright, but there are struggles sometimes. Eyes Wide Shut took the longest time to get released without the hooded figures standing in front of the orgy activities.

Ferox13

12-13-2011, 09:53 AM

Eyes Wide Shut took the longest time to get released without the hooded figures standing in front of the orgy activities.

Stuff like that usually happens as the distributors try to wrangle outta a NC17.

Elvis_Christ

12-13-2011, 02:00 PM

Do films get banned in the States now? How does it work?

I don't think so. Like you said they just get refused certificate and get an unrated release or slapped with NC-17. But this may essentially ban it because the distributors may not won't to put the money into releasing it.

A lot of this kinda stuff is harder to get because the smaller companies end up releasing it in limited quantities and often just do one run.

fortunato

12-13-2011, 07:02 PM

I finally managed to see a Teruo Ishii film, The Joy Of Torture 2 Oxen Split Torture.

Ishii's great. I would definitely recommend two other of his films: Horrors of Malformed Men and The Tattooed Swordswoman (aka Blind Woman's Curse). Both really vibrantly imaginative, grotesque and surreal, with great colors and visuals. They're also really funny, in a dark, absurd way. Really great stuff.

Ferox13

12-14-2011, 12:07 AM

Ishii's great. I would definitely recommend two other of his films: Horrors of Malformed Men and The Tattooed Swordswoman (aka Blind Woman's Curse). Both really vibrantly imaginative, grotesque and surreal, with great colors and visuals. They're also really funny, in a dark, absurd way. Really great stuff.

fortunato

12-14-2011, 12:58 PM

TheWickerFan

12-29-2011, 09:28 AM

Finally saw Caligula, the full uncut version. There were lots of things to admire about it, but the orgy scenes did get rather repetitive.

Fearonsarms

12-30-2011, 07:15 AM

Finally saw Caligula, the full uncut version. There were lots of things to admire about it, but the orgy scenes did get rather repetitive.

I saw it many years ago but have no idea if I saw a cut or uncut version. Is it the orgy scenes that were cut?

paws the great

11-14-2012, 03:16 PM

tallahassee1408

11-14-2012, 03:46 PM

newb

11-14-2012, 04:17 PM

tallahassee1408

11-14-2012, 04:36 PM

those aren't even that bad. i realized that most were made in the US. since the UK hates americans i can see why

neverending

11-14-2012, 04:37 PM

tallahassee1408

11-14-2012, 04:43 PM

sorry. when it comes to censorship and shit like that i get angry. that's why i hate seeing people use the little stars when they are typing a cuss word. or blurring of a nude body part.

neverending

11-14-2012, 04:54 PM

You need to get a sense of perspective. The list was compiled 30 years ago, and many of the films originally banned have been released in the UK either with slight cuts, or even without and cuts at all.

Straker

11-14-2012, 04:55 PM

In terms of what is still banned/ how much is cut, alot of the list Newb posted is dated now. Most of the 'video nasties' that have been resubmitted have been released either uncut or cut to varying degrees... It's mostly extreme sexual violence and animal torture/ cruelty that gets cut over here, these days. I don't really know alot about the rest of the world, but I would still imagine we are pretty strict. It's only been the last 10 years or so that Evil Dead was released totally uncut, for example.

Alot of the 'credit' for our strict censorship guidelines over the years has to go to our media that will do anything to whip the country into a frenzy...

tallahassee1408

11-14-2012, 04:58 PM

yeah 30 years ago people were kinda overprotective to the media.

Straker

11-14-2012, 05:08 PM

those aren't even that bad. i realized that most were made in the US. since the UK hates americans i can see why

They're coming to get you tallahassee.

http://nutshell-movies.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/vlcsnap-2010-11-13-17h09m58s18.png

Dara

11-14-2012, 11:51 PM

Mary Whitehouse was a figure of hate in the Uk .Her views didnt represent those of the general Uk population.I dont think she had a hatred of the US ~ she was just a massive mentalist!

Ferox13

11-14-2012, 11:56 PM

um..... wtf?!?!!? i have got to find this list. the british board of film censorship is probably a board of religious extremist that only does missionary and would rather watch rated G movies 24/7 365. i have nothing against religion since i believe in God, but as i say you can believe in God but don't get crazy with it.

Nothing of the sort - the 1984 VRA bill was hastily put together in response the reaction to the Media outrage at 'violent horror films'. Something had to be done to protect the children..

I always fell sorry for the poor cunt from the company who distributed (the already cut) Nightmares in a Damaged Brain in the Uk. He got 6 months for his trouble.

And the VRA was nothing compared to the bill that David Alton tryed to get in after the Venables/Chucky Media circus (and that did have Christian/religious motivations).

fortunato

11-15-2012, 09:56 PM

I really don't know why films like The Evil Dead , Visiting Hours and Night School made this list? Did the British Board of Film Censorship even watch these films? I can understand why some of these films would be considered offensive to some people, but a lot of the these movies are pretty tame!

You're absolutely right. They didn't watch a lot of the films that they banned; often they would judge them based on promotional materials or the VHS cover. This was one of the myriad criticisms brought against Whitehouse and her cronies during the Video Nasties craze, but of course they prevailed.

Ferox13

11-16-2012, 12:51 AM

You're absolutely right. They didn't watch a lot of the films that they banned; often they would judge them based on promotional materials or the VHS cover. This was one of the myriad criticisms brought against Whitehouse and her cronies during the Video Nasties craze, but of course they prevailed.

You're quite right - Whitehouse admitted many time that she wouldn't watch such filth (how ever SHe had nothing to do with the BBFC).

There is also some confusion here between the BBFC and the famous video nasty list. As far as I remember - the banning of the films had nothing to do with with British Board of Film Censors. It was the DPP who made raids, confiscated tapes and compiled the infamous list.

I agree with fortunato to some extent that they would judge them based on promotional materials or the VHS cover. (add to this title too) but this was for films that were confiscated in raids. The ones that appear on the list had to be prosecuted in turn and of course the material was watched.

The reason The Evil Dead was one the list as it was one of the big names in the newspaper headlines (the media had a huge effect on the whole shitstore) - If I recall the Rami movie went thru a long process of trials before being deemed 'obscene' and subsequently banned.

Of all the films prosecuted 'Forest of Fear' of the one I never understood.

paws the great

11-16-2012, 04:27 PM

Of all the films prosecuted 'Forest of Fear' of the one I never understood.

Yeah, there's not much gore or T&A in it. Most people would find it pretty boring.

Fearonsarms

11-20-2012, 03:43 AM

I recommend that people watch Video Nasties: The Definitive Guide to get the full story of what happened by the people directly involved in this fiasco.

FryeDwight

07-02-2014, 02:16 AM

My wife and I watched a documentary VIDEO NASTIES (2010) that focused on the attempts to regulate gruesome late 70's/early 80's slasher films (DRILLER KILLER, I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE, ZOMBIE, CANNIBAL FEROX, NIGHTMARE IN A DAMAGED BRAIN, etc) in Great Britain and Wales mostly. Lots of film clips, DAILY MAIL excerpts and footage/interviews with Mary Whitehouse, Geoffrey Robertson PC, Sir Graham Bright and Martin Barker among others.
It seemed the main objective was to prevent young children from seeing the films, but it appeared an excessive amount of energy was spent and a lot of heavy handed force (busting and jailing a video shop owner, for example) was used. While I agree a six year old should not watch some of the films listed, it seems that making the films forbidden fruit made them more enticing.
The whole thing reminded me a lot of when the PMRC started their attempt to place stickers on albums to prevent young people from listening, but probably helped those bands get more publicity. Also, both the US and UK had real ultra conservative Government at the time with both Reagan and Thatcher in office.
Do any of you remember these times? Would be interesting to hear what you have to say.