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bwind22
05-04-2004, 12:47 PM
The latest issue of Entertainment Weekly had a blurb stating that New Line Cinema had purchased the rights to the character Ash (from Evil Dead series). The reson for this purchase was solely so that they would be able to use him in FvJ2!

I don't know about you, but I'm pretty damn excited by this.

(There is also a post in the 'upcoming movies' forum about this, but in case you didnt feel like reading through several pages of banter, I posted it here. Plus, I felt that news this big deserved it's own thread. )

So, what do you guys think? Who will win round 2?

Arioch
05-04-2004, 03:35 PM
ughhhhhhhhhhh..........i think its a new highwater mark to flush 3 different series down the toilet with one movie. Way to go New Line:rolleyes:

Evis™
05-04-2004, 04:14 PM
Proof please.

K thnx.

feral cat
05-04-2004, 04:16 PM
... tell me its not true? ... at least tell me it's gonna be Bruce as Ash!

Feral Cat

massacre man
05-04-2004, 05:48 PM
as long as halloween and tcm dont go down the drain with a vs movie im fine

jay o2 waster
05-04-2004, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Arioch
ughhhhhhhhhhh..........i think its a new highwater mark to flush 3 different series down the toilet with one movie. Way to go New Line:rolleyes:

Originally posted by feral cat
... tell me its not true? ... at least tell me it's gonna be Bruce as Ash!

Feral Cat

Originally posted by massacre man
as long as halloween and tcm dont go down the drain with a vs movie im fine

Personally I don't understand why everybody gets so pissed of and upset about this kind of thing. Whenever a remake or a VS is announced, people tend to flip and say "don't do it" "it will reuin the sereis'' and stuff like this. But why? Is it really that bad. We are all on this message board because we all share the same love for horror MOVIES. But when the announce a remake or vs we disown them. I have done it before. But when I really think about it, it gives me something to look foward to. If they wern't making sequels, and remakes, and vs films, there would be less movies to see and do we really want that? Well i sure as hell don't. I want to see these movies. And if they end up sucking, then don't pay attention to it. I mean if this FvJvAsh thing ever sees the light of day, and it ends up sucking ass, so what, it's not like it is going to make the original Nightmare, or Evil Dead, or Friday the 13th movies any less cool.

In My Own Big Fuckin Useless Opinion:D

bwind22
05-04-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Evis™
Proof please.

K thnx.

As I said, it's in the newest Entertainment Weekly. Go buy it.

K thnx.








Yeah Bruce Campbell is going to be reprising his role as Ash. I guess I should have said that, but I must have figured it went without saying.

Sistinas
05-04-2004, 08:58 PM
I agree with Jay-if it sucks will NOES,Fri 13th,and Evil Dead be any less valid?Alot of people think Jason X was shit,but did it ruin the others?No.Did FvsJ ruin the 2 franchises for the people who hated it?No.Maybe it will be awsome,maybe it will suck,but how can you judge it before you've seen it?

jay o2 waster
05-04-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Sistinas
I agree with Jay-if it sucks will NOES,Fri 13th,and Evil Dead be any less valid?Alot of people think Jason X was shit,but did it ruin the others?No.Did FvsJ ruin the 2 franchises for the people who hated it?No.Maybe it will be awsome,maybe it will suck,but how can you judge it before you've seen it?

Thank you, It is so true though

alixzander
05-04-2004, 09:25 PM
i personal would just like to see more creativity. since when was it so hard to come up with your own ideas for a movie?

last bad move
05-04-2004, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by alixzander
i personal would just like to see more creativity. since when was it so hard to come up with your own ideas for a movie? agreed im sick of the whole vs concept

Sistinas
05-04-2004, 10:39 PM
Did FvsJ alone make you sick of the concept?I'm 26 and I can't recall anytime in my years that horror icons have squared off in a movie.I know there have been alot of rumors floating around about new vs movies-but other than the Alien vs Predator movie they've all turned out to be bullshit(Helloween).
I think pitting icons against each other is a cool idea that hasn't been done in decades.When I see "The Creeper meets Chucky at The House Of 18,000 Corpses",I'll agree,the shit got out of hand.

Targangil
05-05-2004, 01:43 AM
I was hoping this wouldn't happen, and Ash, Ash! How the hell do they plan to work him into a FvJ rematch?

I mean, Ash!

Freddy versus Jason worked because both characters are so similar, they are instantly recognizable and have come to epitomise the slasher genre, becoming popular icons in the process. One could imagine them existing in the same demented universe.

What I was hoping for was that FvJ would be followed by continuations of both franchises, for which FvJ would just be the stepping stone, but... ahhh crap, hail to the king!

feral cat
05-05-2004, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by jay o2 waster
Personally I don't understand why everybody gets so pissed of and upset about this kind of thing.
In My Own Big Fuckin Useless Opinion:D
It doesn’t upset me I have better things to worry about so I agree with you too a point! I guess it’s to do with nostalgia you don’t want something you really enjoy to be spoilt for the sake of some extra dollars! When you think about it things can be tarnished I’m sure a lot of people are enjoying Michael Jackson classics a lot less now there’s a chance he’s a pedo!

For me I find remakes unimaginative and sometimes pointless such as the psycho remake and the TCM one! It’s always better to see something fresh and new or at least with a plot of its own!

… Well that’s my thoughts anyway!

Evis™
05-05-2004, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by bwind22
As I said, it's in the newest Entertainment Weekly. Go buy it.

K thnx.








Yeah Bruce Campbell is going to be reprising his role as Ash. I guess I should have said that, but I must have figured it went without saying.

Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.

I could say there's a naked picture of Britney Spears and tell you to go pick it up.

Tumper
05-05-2004, 04:12 AM
I don't see anything wrong with the idea. It's just a continuation of a tradition. Think of the werewolf and mummy pictures back in the forties. Films like these provide a little light entertainment, they make money for the industry, some of which trickles into new ideas, and they keep the horror market alive. Another bonus is the fact that most cinema hooligans will go to these show's, and leave the better stuff to us!

massacre man
05-05-2004, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Evis™
Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.

I could say there's a naked picture of Britney Spears and tell you to go pick it up.


where?

jay o2 waster
05-05-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by massacre man
where?

lol

bwind22
05-05-2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Evis™
Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.

I could say there's a naked picture of Britney Spears and tell you to go pick it up.

Then don't take my word for it. I don't really give a shit if you do or not because you are easily one of the biggest assholes on this forum. I can't say that I care at all what you think of this post or me.

I told you where I saw it. I'm not sure what you want me to do here, mail you an issue? Go to the bookstore, newsstand, library and get it yourself.

I posted this info for people that might care AND I posted a source, so if that's not good enough for you, too bad. If you are too lazy to go out and get yourself a copy, then I guess you'll just have to wait and see.

crazy clown
05-05-2004, 02:02 PM
:rolleyes: believe it when i see it.

Evis™
05-05-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by bwind22
Then don't take my word for it. I don't really give a shit if you do or not because you are easily one of the biggest assholes on this forum.

Why thank you.

I can't say that I care at all what you think of this post or me.

Well obviously you do.

bwind22
05-05-2004, 02:56 PM
You think?

Just because I replied to your posts does not mean I care what you think of me. You think I'm a dickhead, and asshole, a fag, I really don't care because your opinion means nothing to me.

I replied to your posts because you are attempting to discredit my post and/or make me look as if I am making this all up. (Which is not the case.)

While it means nothing to me, your opinion may or may not mean something to someone else, and that is the reason I have responded to your posts. I don't want someone coming on here, seeing this thread and then seeing you attempt to discredit it with no rebuttal post from me because at that point, they would probably think that you're right and it's all made up. (I know I would probably think that if I didn't know any better and the original poster disappeared.)

Anyways, like I said, believe it or not, it's true.

Evis™
05-05-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by bwind22
You think?

Just because I replied to your posts does not mean I care what you think of me. You think I'm a dickhead, and asshole, a fag, I really don't care because your opinion means nothing to me.

I replied to your posts because you are attempting to discredit my post and/or make me look as if I am making this all up. (Which is not the case.)

While it means nothing to me, your opinion may or may not mean something to someone else, and that is the reason I have responded to your posts. I don't want someone coming on here, seeing this thread and then seeing you attempt to discredit it with no rebuttal post from me because at that point, they would probably think that you're right and it's all made up. (I know I would probably think that if I didn't know any better and the original poster disappeared.)

Anyways, like I said, believe it or not, it's true.

I never called you those things.

But I do think you're retarded.

Stop your bitching mam, you're proving yourself to be a hypocrite. Not to mention a blubbering pussy.

And of course it's my opinion, whose else's would it be? Dipshit.

If you have no proof to post; don't post at all, let alone post a reply crying about your credability.

massacre man
05-05-2004, 04:53 PM
evis is awesome


but im taller than you *holds your hat in the air*

Evis™
05-05-2004, 04:55 PM
Yeah, but my penis is bigger than you. I'd post the picture here, but I'd get in trouble.

Arioch
05-05-2004, 05:02 PM
believe it when i see it.

Agreed. And F vs. J, ok its a stretch but ok plots aside it kinda works. Now ash doesnt fit in AT ALL, no where, Evil dead is a whole different world, it doesnt match up plot wise at all, and a blatent cash in on the VS. franchise, its just sad, and it WILL tarnish F vs. J. My opinion.....

HappyCamper
05-05-2004, 05:08 PM
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

Arioch
05-05-2004, 05:11 PM
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

Qua?!?:confused:

massacre man
05-05-2004, 05:11 PM
keep Michael Myers stalkin
kepp Jason campin
keep Freddy dreamin
keep Ash boomstickin

Evis™
05-05-2004, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by massacre man

keep Freddy dreamin


Wait...back up...Freddy is the one that dreams!?

And all this time I thought it was the kids.

And did you get my towering penis? Quite large, huh?

massacre man
05-05-2004, 05:22 PM
small buildings

Evis™
05-05-2004, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by massacre man
small buildings

Everythings smaller when you put my dick next to it.:cool:

bwind22
05-05-2004, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Evis™
I never called you those things.
I didn't say that you did. I was saying you can think whatever you want, I don't care.

But I do think you're retarded.
Don't care.

Stop your bitching mam, you're proving yourself to be a hypocrite. Not to mention a blubbering pussy.
Hypocrite? Hmm, that's interesting. How so? Maybe if you didn't attack people when they post, they wouldn't feel any need to explain themselves to you and the other members of the forum.

And of course it's my opinion, whose else's would it be? Dipshit.
Can you show me somewhere in my post where I said it was anyone's opinion other than yours? I was talking about your opinion and my lack of caring about it. Dipshit.

If you have no proof to post; don't post at all, let alone post a reply crying about your credability.
I posted my fuckin' source! If you want proof, go to the library. I can't even imagine what else you think I can do here. If I had a scanner (or access to one) I'd scan the blurb for you to see, but in truth it would probably come out too small to read anyways. I could mail you the article, but that's not too realistic.

Hmm... Here how about this... Back in October, Fangoria.com posted this piece. Please note that this IS NOT the same atricle that I saw(I just found this one today while looking online for the same blurb I saw.), but it should (possibly) give some credibility to this post. The article is entitled Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash CONFIRMED. Now remember this is from October 2003 and the article that I made this post about is current.

http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=1530

Arioch
05-05-2004, 08:00 PM
Well, thats the end of this thread....everyone but bwind and evis, seek your entertainment elseware.....carry on...

Sistinas
05-05-2004, 09:00 PM
I would like to get back to the subject at hand.Does everyone think this would be a bad idea?
From what I've heard(not to be taken whole-heartedly) Ash is only after Freddy and he's using the Necronomicon to do it.How Jason fits that scenario,I have no idea.The way i understand it,its gunna be Ash & Jason vs Freddy-and this will be the end of the NOES franchise.
I do want to make clear these are all rumors I've encountered in the last few weeks,I have no documented proof-so take it like a rumor.

last bad move
05-05-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Sistinas
I would like to get back to the subject at hand.Does everyone think this would be a bad idea?
From what I've heard(not to be taken whole-heartedly) Ash is only after Freddy and he's using the Necronomicon to do it.How Jason fits that scenario,I have no idea.The way i understand it,its gunna be Ash & Jason vs Freddy-and this will be the end of the NOES franchise.
I do want to make clear these are all rumors I've encountered in the last few weeks,I have no documented proof-so take it like a rumor. i really dont really like this idea i think ash should stay in evil dead movies and not mix them like they are doing. if anythink i wish they made another evil dead instead of having him in the new fvj movie

bwind22
05-05-2004, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by Sistinas
I would like to get back to the subject at hand.Does everyone think this would be a bad idea?
From what I've heard(not to be taken whole-heartedly) Ash is only after Freddy and he's using the Necronomicon to do it.How Jason fits that scenario,I have no idea.The way i understand it,its gunna be Ash & Jason vs Freddy-and this will be the end of the NOES franchise.
I do want to make clear these are all rumors I've encountered in the last few weeks,I have no documented proof-so take it like a rumor.

I love the idea. I'll be the first to admit, I wasn't too crazy about FvJ when I first heard about it because I thought they'd botch it up, but in reality, it turned out pretty good. I'm not sure how Ash will work into the storyline, but I do like the rumor you heard about him going after Freddy via the Necronomicon. That would be cool.

It will be interesting to see how they work out the plot. One thing I would wager is true though is that Ash will, inevitably, make it out alive. (I'm just guessing, but how could they kill our Ash?)

last bad move
05-05-2004, 10:41 PM
by the way i just want to let people know i dont think the idea is the greatist but that wont stop me from seeing it the first day it comes out

Sistinas
05-05-2004, 10:48 PM
All three are icons-all three will live-but it will seem Ash came out on top.

Rotting Eye
05-05-2004, 10:53 PM
I thought FvJ was kinda corny, but I like Robert Englund, so eh.

Ash being in the new FvJ won't bother me, as long as they cast Bruce Campbell. If they don't cast Bruce, I'll hate the movie with a passion.


... and something tells me they're not going to cast him.

bwind22
05-05-2004, 10:59 PM
It will be Bruce Campbell.


You can't have Ash without casting Bruce Campbell. You just can't. There is no way anyone could play that character and I think New Line will be smart enough to recognize that.

Evis™
05-06-2004, 04:06 AM
Oooh; see, now was it that hard? I'm sure you really strained your brain for that. And you're still being hypocritical, the fact that you say you don't care, then you proceed to bitch like a housewife with PMS. And yes, I'm going to find an October issue of whatever stupid maganize in May.

That makes a lot of sense. :rolleyes:

It’s true. FANGORIA has learned that New Line Cinema is seriously considering adding Ash (Bruce Campbell) to the inevitable FREDDY VS. JASON Round Two that the studio has in development. This is not some Internerd rumor, though the notion has been tabled out there in horror fandom for months. Sure, we’ve heard about other permutations for a follow-up to the blockbuster rumble (everything from FREDDY VS. JASON VS. LEATHERFACE to …VS. CHUCKY to …VS. MICHAEL), but the Ash scenario, evidently, is the only one that New Line is treating as a legitimate idea. We’ll keep you updated.

Yet the article doesn't say New Line has confirmed it. New Line is "Considering" adding Ash and it's a "Legitimate idea".

Nothing say's that he is going to be in it.

BudMan
05-06-2004, 04:48 AM
hmmmm This thread looks familiar.
http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4563

jay o2 waster
05-06-2004, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by Evis™
Everythings smaller when you put my dick next to it.:cool:

lmao

bwind22
05-06-2004, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Evis™
Oooh; see, now was it that hard? I'm sure you really strained your brain for that. And you're still being hypocritical, the fact that you say you don't care, then you proceed to bitch like a housewife with PMS. And yes, I'm going to find an October issue of whatever stupid maganize in May.

That makes a lot of sense. :rolleyes:

Yet the article doesn't say New Line has confirmed it. New Line is "Considering" adding Ash and it's a "Legitimate idea".

Nothing say's that he is going to be in it.


Dude, I'm seriously beginning to doubt your ability to read. I know what the article says, I also pointed out very specifically, just for dumbasses like you, that this is not the same article that I made the post about. What I saw wasn't an article, just a little blurb. This was 'considered' as a 'legitimate idea' back in October. Now it is May, and New Line has purchased the rights. If you read a little bit more carefully, maybe next time you won't make youself look like such a fuckin' douchebag.

And yes I'm going to find an October issue of whatever stupid magazine in May.

That makes a lot of sense.

Maybe if you were literate it would make more sense. Learn how to read kid. What are you, 14? You should know how to read by then.

I found the link above on the Fangoria website. It's from October, but I never said anything about going to find that magazine. (Hell, it might not even be in their magazine for all I know, I got it off their website.) I told you that if you wanted PROOF, then go get the CURRENT ISSUE of Entertainment Weekly for the little blurb about New Line purchasing the rights.

newb
05-06-2004, 09:32 AM
bwind, your wasting your time trying to reason with this dope. He's a very nasty teen who's only pleasure is talking down to people on here. From the looks of him , I'm sure he gets his ass kicked daily in high school.:)

jay o2 waster
05-06-2004, 09:55 AM
i smell a mini flame war

newb
05-06-2004, 10:09 AM
Don't get all excited Jay.
No flame war here. Just stating a fact. All you have to do is read 90% of his post and they are either bashing someone or talking about his dick. A shrink would have a field day with him. And he does have a few fools on this board whos seem to idolize him [ yourself included] . I've given this dork too much of my time already just typing this. :rolleyes:

bwind22
05-06-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by newb
bwind, your wasting your time trying to reason with this dope. He's a very nasty teen who's only pleasure is talking down to people on here. From the looks of him , I'm sure he gets his ass kicked daily in high school.:)


You're right. I should have just ignored him completely from the get go.

Evis, I'm done with this. I know that you will probably continue trying to carry this on (after you get out of school.), but I'm done. Obviously, you don't care what anyone on here thinks of you, but I do happen to care what some of the people think of me. (Not you, of course, but the normal, non-asshole type people.)

You can post if you want (I'm sure you will.), but I'm done replying to you. I've stated my case. I've delivered all the proof that I can (without actually mailing the article out to people.) If you don't want to believe this post, that's fine, don't.

Sistinas
05-06-2004, 11:21 AM
I've seen it,so I believe you.It would be kinda stupid to make up something and say its from a major magazine that millions of people read.:rolleyes:
Does anyone else agree that Michael Myers would be alot cooler than Ash in a new vs movie?

bwind22
05-06-2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Sistinas
I've seen it,so I believe you.It would be kinda stupid to make up something and say its from a major magazine that millions of people read.:rolleyes:

Exactly! Why would I come on here for months and then totally negate my 200+ posts by making up a lie about something like this. If I wanted to lie, I would have used a much smaller more obscure publication that no one had ever heard of as my basis. (And I probably wouldn't be encouraging everyone to go see for themselves either.)

Steve_Hutchison
05-06-2004, 02:57 PM
Lets keep this simple : how come you know about it and I don't?

Targangil
05-06-2004, 03:15 PM
Myers may be cool, but he's still only human, it would take Jason one swing of the machette and the game is up. Of course it wouldn't be the real Michael Myers, he's still out there...

bwind22
05-06-2004, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Steve_Hutchison
Lets keep this simple : how come you know about it and I don't?

I'm assuming you are asking this question to me.

I'm not sure why you don't know this, did you read this entire post? I saw a little blurb about it in Entertainment Weekly.

Freddy Krueger.
05-06-2004, 04:10 PM
Oh my fuckin' God. Ash... the gay guy with the chainsaw... -sigh- seem that New Line sure has done somthing stupid: putting Ash In FREDDY VS JASON (reminding you that it says "Freddy vs Jason" and not "Gay Ass Ash Vs Freddy VS Jason.") To put that pathetic waste in the great Freddy VS Jason movie would be dumb, stupid, and just plain retarded. Did I mention that it was dumb? Anyway, if Ash was to put in this movie, which I truely doubt, I would be really ashamed that New Line could sink so low. I mean, really...

Ash: Gay Human Who Enjoys Dropping The Soap. Weapon: Chainsaw hand.

Freddy: Evil-Minded Bastard who has the power to envade your dreams. Can't be killed. Can kill you in your dreams. Seriously wicked and skilled in the art of killing and inflecting pai onto others. Weapon: Evil Mind and a glove on his right hand that has four, 10-inch, razor sharp blades.

Jason: Huge and Powerful Asshole. Can't die. Hard to stop from killing. Weapon: Machete, own two hands, or anything he feels like using.

Sistinas
05-06-2004, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Targangil
Myers may be cool, but he's still only human, it would take Jason one swing of the machette and the game is up. Of course it wouldn't be the real Michael Myers, he's still out there...

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!Good point!

massacre man
05-07-2004, 12:58 PM
michael aint human just bring the thorn plot back jason and freddy are out

michael will still win

Freddy Krueger.
05-07-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by massacre man
michael aint human just bring the thorn plot back jason and freddy are out

michael will still win He is to human. It's that witches curse (or is it a spell?) that keeps him some powerful. Think about it, is Jason not human as well? I personaly believe that Jason is indeed human. Only thing is he's a stubben mutt who don't know when to die nor when to stay dead. Jason is much stronger then Michael and look how well Freddy done with him? Hell, if not for that bitch, Lori, Freddy would've won. Now piture Michael there... and/or Ash, while we're on that subject. Michael may put up quite a fight, but with one mighty blow from Jason or a wicked attack from Freddy in the dream world or real world, Michael would drop dead. Now its Ash's turn... Ash would probley not even stand a small chance in this battle once so ever. If he would be lucky enough to get an attack with that chainsaw, he would probley just piss Freddy/Jason/Michael off and then pow, Ash is dead. Do you even know how gay it's going to luck now with that chainsaw hand? Thats something you can only show in an old movie to look cool, but in a movie such as Freddy VS Jason, it would look just plain stupid. Like in Freddy's Dead, when colors come out of the t.v. and suck that kid in, or the part in NOES 4 when the girl turns into a cockroach, these are things that can only seem neat in a old movie like that. A movie with low graphics.

This is what I, along with quite a few people from my school, believe.

Sistinas
05-07-2004, 02:06 PM
Jason is not human anymore,he became the "undead" in pt 6 I believe.

massacre man
05-07-2004, 04:53 PM
jason has died 8 times and one of those times was in super form michael myers has died how many times 0 :D

jay o2 waster
05-08-2004, 07:41 AM
true, maybe jason is a cat and only has nine lives, if so, he only ha one more

massacre man
05-08-2004, 09:32 AM
i ment to say 7 times sorry

jay o2 waster
05-08-2004, 04:18 PM
ok, then he has 2 more lives left

otis
05-08-2004, 05:47 PM
Does Jason breath? Just wondering, cause he is in space in Jason X.

I really hope they don't ruin FvJ with Ash. I like Ash but Evil Dead dosen't belong with these guys. I wish they would leave it the way it is.

jay o2 waster
05-09-2004, 03:56 PM
doesn't really matter because he can't die

Targangil
05-09-2004, 05:46 PM
Sure he can die, he dies all the time, it's just that he gets better.