The Human Centipede II rejected by BBFC!

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No UK release for the horror sequel

06 June 2011 | Source: BBFC


Last year's The Human Centipede was mad, bad and really quite grotesque. But this year's sequel, imaginatively called The Human Centipede II, has been rejected by the British Board of Film Classification on the basis that it is "sexually violent and potentially obscene".

This means that the DVD cannot be legally supplied anywhere in the UK.

The original film was released, uncut, as an 18 last year. This one, however, apparently has "unacceptable material" throughout which cannot be remedied with cuts. The filmmakers have six weeks in which to appeal against the decision.

It's worth noting, before we get all up in arms, that this is a relatively rare decision for the BBFC, who outlined their reasons at some length and stressed that the full Board was in on this one. The full reasoning is given below in the link - but if you're of a sensitive disposition even this may be rather unpleasant.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=31162

[Freak]

I can't say that I'm to upset about this. The first was utterly stupid and over hyped.

[roshiq]

The only way left for them is now a straight torrent release like The Tunnel (http://www.thetunnelmovie.net/index.php). :D

[TheWickerFan]

*Sigh* The filmmakers will probably end up editing it.

[ferretchucker]

Like it will really stop people. In this day and age, the internet is God. And the BBFC have very little control over that.

To be honest, I don't think it's bad news either way. Really couldn't care less about the first. There are far sicker, more twisted films. This one just happened to get publicity.

[The Villain]

The first one was terrible, i wish they would stop an American release of it as well.

[neverending]

Wow... people supporting censorship. Incredible.

[Ferox13]

Wow... people supporting censorship. Incredible.

For sure. It doesn't matter the quality of the film - a group of adults deciding what is fit for the majority of people to watch isn't right.

[The Villain]

For sure. It doesn't matter the quality of the film - a group of adults deciding what is fit for the majority of people to watch isn't right.

Hey i dont care about the so called gruesomeness of the movie (for the record, i didnt think the first one was as brutal as people make it out to be) I just think its a terrible movie. That being said, you're right. Censorship of this nature isn't right.

Also just so everyone knows, my comment before was just a joke. I don't want to see the movie but i can just choose not to watch it, i dont need it be banned. Also movies getting censored and banned only makes people want to watch it more so its pointless anyway.

[Elvis_Christ]

Damn, this will almost certainly be the same case for NZ and Australia then. Not that it'll stop me seeing it of course and if I want to buy it I'll hopefully be able to sneak a R1 release onto my shelf.

The original was a tad underwhelming but I enjoyed it especially for Dieter Laser performance.

this is a relatively rare decision for the BBFC

:confused: really? These guys have been heavy handed for decades if I'm not mistaking?

[ferretchucker]

Wow... people supporting censorship. Incredible.

I don't think it's so much supporting it, as really not caring in this case. It's not a political/religious view being suppressed or an enlightening, life changing film that will revolutionise the way we see the world. It's just another shock film.

Censorship isn't right, but in this case, I'm not going to kick up any fuss.

[neverending]

That's lazy thinking, young man. You have to protect freedom of expression in all cases, or when you really want that freedom, it will have disappeared.

Are political & religious views the only type of speech that's worthy of protection? If that's the prevailing attitude in England I can see why they have institutionalized censorship to the degree they do. Thank goddess over here we hold freedom of speech to a near absolute degree.

And how do you know that film won't revolutionize the way you- or somebody else- sees the world? You haven't seen it. How can you judge whether it's worthy of the same protection other works of art get or not?

[newb]

That's lazy thinking, young man. You have to protect freedom of expression in all cases, or when you really want that freedom, it will have disappeared.

Are political & religious views the only type of speech that's worthy of protection? If that's the prevailing attitude in England I can see why they have institutionalized censorship to the degree they do. Thank goddess over here we hold freedom of speech to a near absolute degree.

And how do you know that film won't revolutionize the way you- or somebody else- sees the world? You haven't seen it. How can you judge whether it's worthy of the same protection other works of art get or not?

agreed....and I think ferret should be banned for that comment.

[neverending]

agreed....and I think ferret should be banned for that comment.

You're always trying to get me in trouble!

[newb]

You're always trying to get me in trouble!

ha....never...you're one of my favorite posters.

[cheebacheeba]

My only thoughts on this are "Do they really need another one?"
That said, I don't care much for censorship - I think it's peoples right to watch even any pathetic drivel they should so choose to waste their time on.

[Fearonsarms]

Damn, this will almost certainly be the same case for NZ and Australia then. Not that it'll stop me seeing it of course and if I want to buy it I'll hopefully be able to sneak a R1 release onto my shelf.

The original was a tad underwhelming but I enjoyed it especially for Dieter Laser performance.



:confused: really? These guys have been heavy handed for decades if I'm not mistaking?

He means in recent years only Murder Set Pieces and A Serbian Film have been repeatedly banned by the BBFC but yes over ten years ago the BBFC has been a overkill censorship joke-whocan forget their counterparts in the 80s creating their "video nasties" list-most of those films have had their ban lifted in recent years so now people use the video nasties list as a shopping list. The publicity this will generate will save the studios millions in advertising expenditure in this day and age-the UK ban will not last long as it hasn't stopped anyone I know from watching A Serbian Film for example if they really wanted to.

[neverending]

Maybe not anyone you know, but there sure are plenty of people who don't pirate films. If they can't see a film in a theatre or rent it from a legal source, they don't see it. And banning a film certainly hurts its bottom line, making it more difficult for them to work on future projects.

[cheebacheeba]

If they can't see a film in a theatre or rent it from a legal source, they don't see it.
I don't usually download movies, but I think that the circumstances you mention here are a valid time to do so.
If there's no way you can legitimately buy/see a film in your area and give some small portion of funds to those that work on said film, then I myself feel I would be doing them more credit by obtaining the film any way possible, and giving good feedback on an open/online forum or imdb.
Sometimes credit is all you can give a film - if of course, it's deserving.

[swiss tony]

It has clearly made a bit of a splash in the national press. The story was covered on both Radio 5 Live and Talksport.

The BBFC description didn't make it sound that bad. It's not really my sort of movie but I do strongly object to the state saving us from ourselves with this kind of over-zealous scrutiny.

I guess, with the freedom of the internet, the BBFC is a fairly toothless government agency these days anyway. Maybe they're just rocking the boat a bit to justify their own, little Hitler existence.

FUCK THOSE GUYS!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

rant over

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Director Six furious over BBFC banning


The Human Centipede director Tom Six has slammed British film officials for banning his upcoming sequel to the graphic horror movie and posting scene spoilers on their website.

The original film, about a German doctor who kidnaps three tourists and surgically joins them mouth to anus to form a human centipede, received mixed reviews upon its limited release last year, and now the follow-up The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) is causing controversy over its sexually violent plotline.

The disturbing new movie, written and directed by Six, was due for release on DVD this year, but it will not hit the U.K. market following a ruling by officials at the British Board of Film Classification, which deemed the film "unacceptable" for viewers.

And Six is not at all pleased.

In a statement released to Empire, he says, "Thank you BBFC for putting spoilers of my movie on your website and thank you for banning my film in this exceptional way. Apparently I made an horrific horror-film, but shouldn't a good horror film be horrific? My dear people it is a f**king Movie.

"It is all fictional. Not real. It is all make-belief. It is art. Give people their own choice to watch it or not. If people can't handle or like my movies they just don't watch them. If people like my movies they have to be able to see it any time, anywhere also in the UK.”

Filmmakers have six weeks to appeal the decision.

[TheWickerFan]

In the U.S. we have the dreaded NC 17, which means the film in question won't get a wide release , so the filmmakers usually end up releasing an edited version for the movie theaters. When it's time for a DVD release, the unrated version will usually be available.

If the BBFC bans a film from the theaters, does this include DVD releases?

[_____V_____]

(BEWARE OF POSSIBLE HUGE SPOILERS!)


BBFC defends itself - http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jun/06/human-centipede-sequel-bbfc

If the BBFC bans a film from the theaters, does this include DVD releases?

The BBFC refusal means it cannot be legally supplied anywhere in the UK – even on DVD or download.

[TheWickerFan]

That is pretty ridiculous.:mad:

[bwind22]

I guess my confusion is how there really could be a sequel at all given the state we left all the characters in at the end of the 1st one.

I didn't hate the first one. It was kinda disgusting, but not in a horror movie kinda way. Just in the mental image of someone shitting down my throat kinda way. I'm sure I'll check this one out when it's released.

[neverending]

I guess you didn't read the article, since it explains the plot....

[swiss tony]

FYI the national radio stations in the UK were covering the directors response to the banning today. It is unusual for the media to pick up both sides of the story in a case like this, to be fair to them.

I read his statement and thought he argued his point well. I guess in this situation the only defence is to come across reasonable, logical and forward thinking. Although, he did direct Human Centipede, so that probably undermines his credibility (A to M :eek:)

[ferretchucker]

That's lazy thinking, young man. You have to protect freedom of expression in all cases, or when you really want that freedom, it will have disappeared.

Are political & religious views the only type of speech that's worthy of protection? If that's the prevailing attitude in England I can see why they have institutionalized censorship to the degree they do. Thank goddess over here we hold freedom of speech to a near absolute degree.

And how do you know that film won't revolutionize the way you- or somebody else- sees the world? You haven't seen it. How can you judge whether it's worthy of the same protection other works of art get or not?

The censorship of one film will hardly lead to the removal of freedom of speech in England. The freedoms I care for are still very much intact. And Indeed, my views on the censorship of a particular film represent the prevailing attitude entire English population. ALL HAIL SUPPRESSION, SO SAYETH GABRIEL!

Come on, now. We both know that the chances of this film having any revolutionary effect - a positive one - is basically nil. To suggest that the chance that there COULD potentially be one is just being nit-picky. And whilst I am in no way suggesting that art doesn't provide a profound contribution to culture and should be protected, I personally care not for it in this particular instance. Call it apathetic, but I know that if I want to, I will be able to get this film and that's all that matters to me in this case. As will anybody else who puts their mind to it. For those who wish to see it but are against illegal downloads - their loss. In times gone by, the banning of this film may have annoyed me more, but with the power of the internet, it will have little effect on me.

[swiss tony]

Yeah, but you can't ignore censorship just because it's ineffective. What happens if the state develop full proof technology to censor the internet? The BBFC will have the restrictive powers they enjoyed in the eighties. I know that'll never happen but you gotta defend the principle (even if it is over a shitty movie :))

[zwoti]

He means in recent years only Murder Set Pieces and A Serbian Film have been repeatedly banned by the BBFC

A Serbian Film wasn't banned - just butchered.

BBFC have their no-go areas, the last one being sexual violence. their stance on animal violence has softened recently, leading finally to UNCUT releases of Dario Argento's Deep Red & Inferno (looking might fine on BD i might add). hell, in anticipation of the forthcoming BD release of Deodato's brand new director's cut of Cannibal Holocaust, the full uncut version was sent to the BBFC for rating and it had only 1 scene has been cut

[TheWickerFan]

The censorship of one film will hardly lead to the removal of freedom of speech in England. The freedoms I care for are still very much intact. And Indeed, my views on the censorship of a particular film represent the prevailing attitude entire English population. ALL HAIL SUPPRESSION, SO SAYETH GABRIEL!

Come on, now. We both know that the chances of this film having any revolutionary effect - a positive one - is basically nil. To suggest that the chance that there COULD potentially be one is just being nit-picky. And whilst I am in no way suggesting that art doesn't provide a profound contribution to culture and should be protected, I personally care not for it in this particular instance. Call it apathetic, but I know that if I want to, I will be able to get this film and that's all that matters to me in this case. As will anybody else who puts their mind to it. For those who wish to see it but are against illegal downloads - their loss. In times gone by, the banning of this film may have annoyed me more, but with the power of the internet, it will have little effect on me.

I will indeed call it apathetic and naive. The censorship of one little film can set the benchmark for the banning of others (some you might care about) for other things people might find offensive. The longer you do nothing, the more they'll abuse their power.

And I would rather not illegally download movies because it's, you know, illegal.:rolleyes:

[neverending]

Bah- never mind. It's not worth the bother.

[Ferox13]

The censorship of one film will hardly lead to the removal of freedom of speech in England. The freedoms I care for are still very much intact.

You'd be suprised. The whole Chuckie witch hunt in the early 90's nearly lead to a new video recording bill which would have come down hard on any violence show in British releases of Video. It would have been such a step backwards. The bill was interduced by a backbencher (i think) who were using it to puh their own religious/moral agenda.

Because violence in Horror films was so big in the media at the time the bill was taken seriously..

And I agree with TheWickerFan - anything like that can be the thin end of the wedge. That been said British censorship is getting far more permissive - compare it now to back when James Ferman was weilding the scissors..

[swiss tony]

And I agree with TheWickerFan - anything like that can be the thin end of the wedge. That been said British censorship is getting far more permissive - compare it now to back when James Ferman was weilding the scissors..

Good point, British censorship is much more sensible now. I think that's why this case really stands out as a backward step.

On illegal downloading, I'm not publicly endorsing it, but I remember being a young teenager and, if I wanted the latest CD from my favourite band, being forced to pay £15 - £20 for the 'European' release. [European because they'd stuck a live version of one of the studio tracks at the end]. This was completely exploitative by the big retailers.

Apologies for the off-topic rant:)

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It's a move that should surprise no-one but it is now official.

When announcing their ban of Tom Six's The Human Centipede 2: Full Sequence, the BBFC noted that the parties affected would have up to six weeks to appeal the decision. UK distributor Eureka Entertainment has just announced their intention to do so, releasing an ultra-brief press release stating only:

In the light of the decision of the BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) not to grant The Human Centipede 2 (Full Sequence) a classification certificate, Bounty Films (Australia), in conjunction with its UK distribution partner Eureka Entertainment Ltd. intends to appeal the decision.

Bounty MD Tony Romeo said:

"In Australia the film has been granted a certificate with no cuts. We are extremely surprised therefore by the BBFC's decision."

At this time we do not wish to comment further.

It's presumed that the quote from Australia's Bounty are included purely as a reminder that the film was passed uncut by a country with a similar censorship code to the UK's, as an Australian decision will have no official legal standing or influence whatsoever.

[cheebacheeba]

as an Australian decision will have no official legal standing or influence whatsoever.
Wow, such a surprise there :rolleyes:

[bwind22]

I guess you didn't read the article, since it explains the plot....

You are correct sir. I didn't want the spoilers. I assume it's an all new cast? Or a prequel perhaps.

[Fearonsarms]

I don't usually download movies, but I think that the circumstances you mention here are a valid time to do so.
If there's no way you can legitimately buy/see a film in your area and give some small portion of funds to those that work on said film, then I myself feel I would be doing them more credit by obtaining the film any way possible, and giving good feedback on an open/online forum or imdb.
Sometimes credit is all you can give a film - if of course, it's deserving.

I completely agree with this in the early 90s when the whole video nasties thing flared up yet again my sisters were forced to get pirate copies of some of those films-I guess I'm lucky that I grew up in a horror household but nevertheless if the BBFC are going to behave like this then I wholeheartedly encourage people to get pirate copies of banned films-it was extremely frustrating that we had to wait till LAST year to get full uncut versions of Inferno and Deep Red-if people have a love of horror and there is no availability of the films UNCUT on dvd in the UK then a lot of people will turn to the Internet-let's just hope there is never full censorship online.

[neverending]

You are correct sir. I didn't want the spoilers. I assume it's an all new cast? Or a prequel perhaps.

All new, and there's a logical explanation for a sequel.

[fiend_skull]

I was not a huge fan of the first, but, the fact that a group of people can sit and decide to completely deprive anyone of a cinematic experience (no matter the quality) has always deeply irked me.

It is exactly the same as banning a work of literature or a painting. You are restricting someone's ability to express an idea or theme and restricting someone's ability to choose to experience it. Aesthetic pleasures is extremely important and to gate it to a few select styles and ideas is ridiculous.

[swiss tony]

[QUOTE=Fearonsarms;894471]...we had to wait till LAST year to get full uncut versions of Inferno and Deep Red...QUOTE]

So my copies of those movies, that are older than last year, aren't complete? Shit! Is it worth obtaining the 'full' versions, or are virtually the same?

[Fearonsarms]

SPOILER ALERT!
As far as I know as Zwoti said earlier in the discussion-the animal cruelty laws have been relaxed last year so in deep red you see the pin going through a lizard.
In Inferno you see a cat whacked against something and then a cat eating a mouse.

But there may be more-I saw the cut version of Deep Red years ago that was missing 20mins of footage and I've only seen the uncut version of Inferno that came out last year

[leezuki]

have not seen first human centipede is it worth watching i allways avoided this movie.

[Fearonsarms]

I haven't either it sounded too ridiculous to even bother with.

[Cradle of Death]

I thought it was very good, but I'm a sick dude !! IMO, it's much better than most of the movie's I've seen lately. prob my favorite of the genre since Martyrs

[Fearonsarms]

That is actually a quite funny post given the context whoever you REALLY are lol

[Scarebaby]

Yay for not living in a country that censors everything.

[zwoti]

after the big hoo-ha over the banning of the film,

no surprise there was no coverage of the fact it has now been passed with 157 seconds of cuts.

[silentmovieman]

Having read the reasons for banning it I can say I don't think we'll be missing much, sounds terrible

[ZombieDrone]

My two cents.

Being a Brit, I'm well aware of the BBFC and I think for a film board in a western and somewhat liberalised society, they are very sensitive when it comes to objectionable material.

I read a BBC report earlier and it said that it was one of only 11 films that the BBFC ever banned. Now, I'm quite interested in the Video Nasties phenomenon (though I've stated there's a few of the films, I don't think I'll ever watch because they're "too much" such as Cannibal Holocaust) and though most of them are now available uncut, I think there's at least 11 films on that list alone which still aren't distributable legally.

Though this is probably more the fact that the films never got resubmitted for classification than for the fact that these films would still be regarded as obscene. And some of the choices for the list were insane (for example banning The Beyond or Inferno and not Salo, which I've heard is pretty nasty)

But, I don't believe in censorship, at least not any heavy form of it. Do I find some things hard to stomach or offensive, of course I do, most people do. Do I feel that that should stop other people from watching these films? Certainly not.

[SteyrAUG]

I can't say that I'm to upset about this. The first was utterly stupid and over hyped.


Yep, as much as I hate censorship and am a raging Libertarian, some movies aren't controversial so much as just fucked up. But in the end, I think grown adults should be made capable of making that determination for themselves.


http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8381/001mad1zo2.jpg

[Ferox13]

But in the end, I think grown adults should be made capable of making that determination for themselves.


No need for adults to decide what I should be able to watch no matter how trashy anyone thinks it is.

[SteyrAUG]

No need for adults to decide what I should be able to watch no matter how trashy anyone thinks it is.

I think it is possible you misread my statement.

[Pariah.]

The first film was so awful that I wanted to kill myself after watching it.

So I'm not particularly worried that I wont be able to see the second.

I am however surprised they got the money to make a second one. You know, on account of it being utter trash and all.

[TheWickerFan]

It never ceases to amaze me; "I hate censorship, but---". No matter how trashy a film looks, how morally bankrupt or stupid you might think it is, it should not be censored.

[Ritualistic]

In my opinion, the first one was ridiculous and all hype. I laughed at it because it was so stupid, ive seen far far far worse films. I really dont see the point of them banning the film, you see things worse on the news. Like I said, just my opinion. I will watch this one just because I know it will make me laugh. I too am against censorship.

[Ferox13]

I think it is possible you misread my statement.

I was actually totally agreeing with you..

[SteyrAUG]

I was actually totally agreeing with you..

Ah gotcha. I misinterpreted your reply then. As has been demonstrated inflection can be difficult on the internet.

At least everyone seems to be on the same page, even if we don't always know it at the time.

:D

[zwoti]

and guess what snuck out onto dvd today without a word of complaint from anyone

[Fearonsarms]

I bet its a severely cut version though-Distributors have often claimed new releases in the UK are "uncut" as anyone knows who was fooled into buying the supposedly uncut recent release of "Cannibal Holocaust" (though I think its fully uncut now after last year's relaxing of censorship laws) knows-not my cup of tea cos of the non stimulated animal cruelty but people should be able to watch full films-no censorship is needed. Banning films just gets more kids interested in seeing them like the farce with Child's Play and Mikey (this one is still ridiculously banned by the BBFC!)

[ZombieDrone]

I bet its a severely cut version though-Distributors have often claimed new releases in the UK are "uncut" as anyone knows who was fooled into buying the supposedly uncut recent release of "Cannibal Holocaust" (though I think its fully uncut now after last year's relaxing of censorship laws) knows-not my cup of tea cos of the non stimulated animal cruelty but people should be able to watch full films-no censorship is needed. Banning films just gets more kids interested in seeing them like the farce with Child's Play and Mikey (this one is still ridiculously banned by the BBFC!)

Ah yes, this is true. I don't think we'll see Cannibal Holocaust truly uncut for a long time in the UK, mostly because of the animal cruelty, which as an animal lover I do feel a little sympathetic towards.

It is worth pointing out however that the first cut of Cannibal Holocaust brought before the BBFC was already cut before the BBFC banned it.

As for the case involving Child's Play and Mikey, I sympathise with the family of James Bulger and it was a terrible thing, but it's knee-jerk ill-thought-out populism that's responsible for banning these films.

Ah, the ever-proceeding trudge of the censorious.

[friday13thfan]

Watched it last night with a few friends. My personal opinion? Worst movie I have ever seen. Violent and Disgusting just for the sake of it. Didn't add to the story or anything. Will watch the 3rd and "final" one when it comes out.

[proficient]

I have an extremely open mind about artistic expression. Just, no, no, no and no. Horror needs a purpose, good horror anyway. That's just my opinion but really?

There was just nothing there. It is a crying shame that my independent stories are just better than that crap. Nothing is there and move on.

I think I'd rather listen to Rape Me by Nirvana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLwQ7Qlxr4&NR=1fifty thousand times than watch that piece of shit ever again. Excuse the pun if you actually watched that crap. Again sorry about the crap reference because the creators obviously have a shit fetish. Hey, I just call it like I see em. Unfortunately, assholes like that have more money that I have so there shit goes to the screen.

I read the rules of this forum and I'm sorry for the rant. However, when I spend the time to craft meaningful work that moves the genre forward and I even see that Human Centipede gets a scent of recognition that grabs my goat, and he has big balls!

[crazy raplh]

I couldn't watch it

[roshiq]

Here's my review....

The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) [2011]

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g348/sanjidhdc/HC2A.jpg

This is a highly self indulgent aka controversy+attention grabbing effort from Tom Six that mainly focused on shock value. Even now it seems kinda funny that there are 2 min. & 37 sec. footage got cut in this release when they allowed quite a sufficient amount of gore, shit & disturbing elements in this version. Except of that reported (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Human_Centipede_2_%28Full_Sequence%29#Classifi cation_refusal_in_United_Kingdom) brutal rape & masturbating scene I don't see the points why they removed all those other 'seemingly tolerable' scenes. Perhaps to boost the US or international theatrical & DVD release I guess.
Anyway, first of all the thing that disappointed me most was its premise or in what ground or character around this sequel story started off. This time they introduced another seemingly interesting character on the lead...a mentally handicapped fat little guy who works as a security guard in an underground garage somewhere and also a huge FAN of Tom Six's original HC film. Now, the way Mr. Six developed & portrayed this character in the film is actually kinda interesting with a tortured background but I just didn't like the fact that he's a crazy fan of HC-1ST SEQ & conducted the whole 10 person ass-to-mouth experiment by himself alone. May be there's a hidden dark meaning or message out there somewhere which I failed to get but I think this character of "Martin" needed a helping hand or would better suited as a helper/assistant of another crazed surgeon or failed/frustrated/freak medical student (or an apprentice of Dr. Heiter) by still getting the main attention throughout the movie as it was Martin who would control the major tricks & turns all the way. The way Martin presented in the story, he was actually quite unfit or incompetent for conducting HC experiment. Moreover, the way he was collecting 'the samples' from his regular job place without grabbing any attention from any authority/anyone or consequences was absurd. The black & white photography was an interesting & nice touch by Tom Six that little bit seems to gave a Lynchian-Eraserhead vibe on Martin's inside house sequence but overall Mr. Six didn't manage or not even intended to gave an artistic look to his film as he deliberately made an over-the-top grotesque showcase of bizarre sadism. There's actually nothing added to the story or consequence of original or 1st HC story. Moreover, they presented the original as a 'film' in this sequel (where I expected & preferred a follow up of the events happened in the 1st film) and who knows...may be we'll see another psycho in the "Final sequence" watching the 'Full Sequence' and conducting a 20 people linked gruesome centipede-experiment.

>>: C

[Ferox13]

Here's my review....

I didn't read that yet (as I don't want to read too many spoilers before i see it) but are the 'cuts' in it noticable. I think there are nearly 2 and a half minutes gone.

[roshiq]

I didn't read that yet (as I don't want to read too many spoilers before i see it) but are the 'cuts' in it noticable. I think there are nearly 2 and a half minutes gone.

Yeah....some are noticeable & some are not. Except to promote the DVD or other uncut international theatrical releases I don't see the points for making those 'cuts'.

[Fearonsarms]

Ah yes, this is true. I don't think we'll see Cannibal Holocaust truly uncut for a long time in the UK, mostly because of the animal cruelty, which as an animal lover I do feel a little sympathetic towards.

It is worth pointing out however that the first cut of Cannibal Holocaust brought before the BBFC was already cut before the BBFC banned it.

As for the case involving Child's Play and Mikey, I sympathise with the family of James Bulger and it was a terrible thing, but it's knee-jerk ill-thought-out populism that's responsible for banning these films.

Ah, the ever-proceeding trudge of the censorious.

Couldn't agree more I'm a vegetarian so I think animal cruelty should be wiped out-however the film was made to be controvertial and upsetting and I can forget my personal view because I am 100 % against censorship-we all know the film has upsetting scenes I don't see how banning it will make any difference-no one will attempt to replicate these non simulated cruelty scenes so I think that battle is won-but if you ask me it is the cut versions of films that should be banned.

Also yes of course what happened to Jamie Bulger was horrific but it 100 % had nothing to do with Child's Play or Mikey-as you say the knee jerk banning of Mikey was completely uncalled for-they made it a scapegoat-do these people really think that banning Mikey will stop child cruelty? Reality check BBFC these people are always going to commit these crimes regardlesss what they see on TV so banning just gives a film a notoriety and makes it more popular on the black market-Sheesh there must be hundreds of films more disturbing than MIkey people can see Vulgar, Mysterious Skin, Night School, The Cook The Thief His Wife Her Lover and Alice Sweet Alice all featuring far worse child abuse than Mikey. THESE FILMS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CRIMES. I'm sorry for the rant but it really pisses me off the BBFC

[ZombieDrone]

I've always believed very strongly that any claim that a film/song/video game is purely responsible for causing someone to be a sociopathic criminal is absolute nonsense. People are far more complex psychologically for that to be the case. I like horror movies, I listen to rock music, I've played violent video games...I also have a degree, regularly help charities, always ensure to be polite to people and have never been troubled by the police.

Insanity.

[Ferox13]

Also yes of course what happened to Jamie Bulger was horrific but it 100 % had nothing to do with Child's Play or Mikey-as you say the knee jerk banning of Mikey was completely uncalled for-they made it a scapegoat-do these people really think that banning Mikey will stop child cruelty?

I always thought i was wierd that they banned Mikey (in direct reaction to the Bulger Murder) but didn't ban Childs Play 3 which was the film named by the media.

[Mongoose33]

Hey guys, anybody know where I can watch the uncut/banned version of the Human Centipede 2? I know there're like hundreds of torrents of the cut version

Just wondering if anybody saw the real thing...

[elephantnuke]

Hey guys, anybody know where I can watch the uncut/banned version of the Human Centipede 2? I know there're like hundreds of torrents of the cut version

Just wondering if anybody saw the real thing...

My "blokes" and I watched the uncut edition (http://trustedmoviedownloads.com/human-centipede-2/ ) and we were split. Half of us wanted our time back and half of us were puking... but I kinda enjoyed the gore that was missing from the first movie.

[Ferox13]

My "blokes" and I watched the uncut edition

The version doing the rounds is the VOD one and is cut. We'll prolly have to wait for the DVD release for an uncut version.