You have GOT to be kidding me.

[missmacabre]

I know we all go on rampages about Hollywood remakes, and often. This one just takes the cake for me:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/11/martyrs-remake-pascal-laugier-daniel-stamm.html

The Last Exorcism's Daniel Stamm plans to remake french cult classic Martyrs.

His take on the ending: "The American approach [that I'm looking at] would go through all that darkness but then give a glimmer of hope. You don't have to shoot yourself when it's over."

Are you fucking kidding me?

[TheWickerFan]

I know we all go on rampages about Hollywood remakes, and often. This one just takes the cake for me:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/11/martyrs-remake-pascal-laugier-daniel-stamm.html

The Last Exorcism's Daniel Stamm plans to remake french cult classic Martyrs.

His take on the ending: "The American approach [that I'm looking at] would go through all that darkness but then give a glimmer of hope. You don't have to shoot yourself when it's over."

Are you fucking kidding me?

Perfect.:mad: This is exactly why there's so much prejudice against American remakes. "Let's change the ending". Anyone remember the American remakes of 'Les Diaboliques' and 'The Vanishing'?

[GoreHound13]

Thats straight bull! tell them to remake their own movies... better be english or ill be pissed

[Sistinas666]

^^^ If its an American movie I'm sure it will be in english.





I'm boycotting this one already.:mad:

[Despare]

Perfect.:mad: This is exactly why there's so much prejudice against American remakes. "Let's change the ending". Anyone remember the American remakes of 'Les Diaboliques' and 'The Vanishing'?

I own both Spoorloos and The Vanishing though... and I dig em' both. :)

[TheWickerFan]

I own both Spoorloos and The Vanishing though... and I dig em' both. :)

The American version of The Vanishing was a travesty I thought. You can't change a classic ending like that.

[Despare]

The American version of The Vanishing was a travesty I thought. You can't change a classic ending like that.

Why? It brings something new to a great flick. Fairy tales, folk tales... they all get passed around and altered... changed... and it's fine. Why not film? Why can't you have to things that are very similar but altered to be something new? I think if people want to remake something go for it, I like new attempts at telling a story in different ways... if it isn't good however... I simply won't buy it. :)

[GoreHound13]

^^^ If its an American movie I'm sure it will be in english.





I'm boycotting this one already.:mad:


Im with you on the boycotting, unless i actually hear good things about it... but i doubt it lol

[TheWickerFan]

Why? It brings something new to a great flick. Fairy tales, folk tales... they all get passed around and altered... changed... and it's fine. Why not film? Why can't you have to things that are very similar but altered to be something new? I think if people want to remake something go for it, I like new attempts at telling a story in different ways... if it isn't good however... I simply won't buy it. :)

I understand your point, I just feel The Vanishing attempt was a failure. I don't automatically hate all remakes; I just get VERY concerned when a filmmaker says he's going to make a more 'upbeat' version of a classic film. That's normally not a good sign.

[good vs evil]

I know we all go on rampages about Hollywood remakes, and often. This one just takes the cake for me:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/11/martyrs-remake-pascal-laugier-daniel-stamm.html

The Last Exorcism's Daniel Stamm plans to remake french cult classic Martyrs.

His take on the ending: "The American approach [that I'm looking at] would go through all that darkness but then give a glimmer of hope. You don't have to shoot yourself when it's over."

Are you fucking kidding me?

I here you!:mad: I threw up at Kirsten Stewart! Why can't they just leave well enough alone!

[TheWickerFan]

I here you!:mad: I threw up at Kirsten Stewart! Why can't they just leave well enough alone!

Kristen Stewart?! Good grief, I missed that! She is one of the most God-awful actresses I have ever seen.

[good vs evil]

Kristen Stewart?! Good grief, I missed that! She is one of the most God-awful actresses I have ever seen.

Talk about a flat affect!

[Despare]

I understand your point, I just feel The Vanishing attempt was a failure. I don't automatically hate all remakes; I just get VERY concerned when a filmmaker says he's going to make a more 'upbeat' version of a classic film. That's normally not a good sign.

I hear ya, but you have to go after different audiences right? I've read (and seen) version of Red Riding Hood where the Grandmother doesn't even get eaten and others where the neither the old lady or Red survive.

[TheWickerFan]

I hear ya, but you have to go after different audiences right? I've read (and seen) version of Red Riding Hood where the Grandmother doesn't even get eaten and others where the neither the old lady or Red survive.

I honestly hadn't thought of that. You're probably right, some people prefer happy endings (no comment from the peanut gallery please). I've read some of the Grimm tales in their original form; they are really something.

[neverending]

I cast a bemused eye on gen x and y'ers who get so upset at remakes of films from their generation, yet tell me I'm full of it when I say I hate the remakes of older films....

:p

[TheWickerFan]

I cast a bemused eye on gen x and y'ers who get so upset at remakes of films from their generation, yet tell me I'm full of it when I say I hate the remakes of older films....

:p

I never said that.:eek:

[HardCoreKid]

"Throws up everywhere"

[neverending]

I never said that.:eek:

That's true- I said it.

[TheWickerFan]

That's true- I said it.

I mean, I don't think you're full of it for hating remakes of older films.

[fiend_skull]

While I am fairly bewildered by the need to remake martyrs, I can't say I completely hate the idea. Martyrs was a great flick (a perfect example of putting your protagonist through hell), but if they are willing to keep from pulling punches I imagine that they could make something positive from this endeavor.

My thinking is while the ending of the original left me a bit confused (in a good way), but if the give it a positive ending, it could really be an Alfred Hitchcock way of doing it by creating a sense of "relief" (though the ideas behind that and a "less depressing" ending might not collide).

My fear is the thought that they will pull a lot of the punches that made the first movie fairly disturbing/interesting. In the scene where Lucie starts unloading with a shot gun, while extremely violent and unforgiving, also says a lot about her mental state. It also takes away the feeling of sympathy the opening tried to garner from you (something I don't see in a lot of films).

Now, it isn't really fair to just put the word "remake" with "suck". A lot of movies that are thought of as future classics are remakes, such as Scarface, The Departed, Ben-Hur, Cape Fear, and more.

[FreddyMyers]

I agree with you Fiend and Despare but in the same sense its also laziness on hollywoods part. The theroy of remake = suck i believe comes from the kind of movie that is being remade. Some stories are timeless and can be reproduced sweemlessly b/c of the strength of the plot and other things. Others that WE feel are great arent exactly for the typical american audience. We simply have a greater passion for and understanding for this genre.

That being said i also think they are stuggling in the horror genre to come up with anything creative so they are finding cult and underground hits that we know of but mainstream audiences dont. What they dont get is that is why we like them, cause it isnt your typical american horror movie. We are horror addicts that know what good horror is. IMO mainstream audiences dont know shit about the true art of horror.

I honestly have no idea how thier gonna recreate the intensity or complete relentlessness or even the genuine horror that the first half was. I think they'll take away some of the "torture porn" from the second half and dwell more on why she is being put through all the pain. More storyline about why she is a martyr.

Id still rather watch a remake of LTROI or Martyrs than most of the crap horror that is in theatres nowadays. Even though i still hate remakes.

[GoreHound13]

I think some old movies should be remastered rather than remade, let the classics be just that, classics

[Scarebaby]

Woah, that one went right over your head, America!

I've seen similar butchery made to films like The Descent and [REC] so I can't say I'm surprised. If everyone isn't kissing or dancing or holding hands at the ending, it's too 'brusque reality' for Hollywood. Hey, those guys even made Schindler look good..

[stanley_blender]

yeah, they really need to stop doing these remakes.

i HATED the last house on the left remake. it wasn't nearly as gritty and def didn't have the same hold on me the original did.

[Despare]

Woah, that one went right over your head, America!

I've seen similar butchery made to films like The Descent and [REC] so I can't say I'm surprised. If everyone isn't kissing or dancing or holding hands at the ending, it's too 'brusque reality' for Hollywood. Hey, those guys even made Schindler look good..

You have to remember that alot of American movies are remade for foreign countries as well. Ever see any of the Turkish remakes? Chilling...

[Ferox13]

^^^ If its an American movie I'm sure it will be in english.





I'm boycotting this one already.:mad:

I'm going twice to make up for it..

[Scarebaby]

You have to remember that alot of American movies are remade for foreign countries as well. Ever see any of the Turkish remakes? Chilling...

You mean like the Turkish version (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7xlak_badi-turkish-et_shortfilms) of E.T.? I fucking cried.

[GoreHound13]

Theres a Turkish version of E.T? thats just brutal!!!

[Sistinas666]

You have to remember that alot of American movies are remade for foreign countries as well. Ever see any of the Turkish remakes? Chilling...


Turkish Star Wars is the shit!

[GoreHound13]

Theres a Turkish Starwars too?!?! wow lmao

[Elvis_Christ]

Foreign films have always been consistently remade since forever.

The stories used to me more reworked (i.e Fistful Of Dollars) but since Three Men & A Baby there has been more of a trend of just porting the story/characters.

People don't like subtitles and studios like making money so they cash in on it.

I could care less tbh. Chances are I've seen the foreign flick first so I don't bother with the remake like recently with Quarantine but still I don't write things off automatically because how fucking good was the Americanised version of The Grudge? I loved it anyways... perhaps more that the original.