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captain spaulding
08-03-2010, 03:14 PM
Well, how bout we talk about someone else that I have a great interest in. Lets go back a few years, to World War Two, and set the stage, in Germany. Adolph Hitler. From his rise to power, to his last days, in a Berlin bunker. I have just been interested in him, for sometime. I started collecting Nazi Germany items, long ago. Now, as to the concentration camps, that is a tender subject with most people, so I won't get into them. If you want to talk about them, feel free to send me a private message. This way we won't offend anybody who doesn't not want to hear about them. I myself am interested in them, for many reasons, same as Hitler, himself. I can recall hearing one phrase from one of the camps... "Break the body. Break the mind. Break the spirit. Sometimes mercy was shown to the children, and they were injected with morphine, so they wouldn't feel themselves being hanged. The one I like best is the court date with Judge Roland Freisler presiding... Roland was very loud and mean... There were three men accused of trying to kill Hitler. Well, big mistake. Judge Roland roared them down, whenever the men tried to speak. he finally had enough, and in basically, told them where to go. You can tell by tone in his voice, he was pissed, big time. After he was done, the men were hanged with piano wire. Most, if not all of his decisions ended up with death. That was a time indeed.
I have to admit, while I don't find anything amusing about what Hitler or Josef Mengele did, it does interest my morbid side.
Same with murderers....I don't think it's funny, I just wonder what went on in their heads. What would motivate someone to commit such acts?
It can be argued that many were insane, but many were of above average intelligence and calculated the murders they committed to a tee.
The whole Nazi/Auschwitz thing fascinates me. I'm sorry it happened, but I can't help but be fascinated by the death factory they created.
Sad spot in history for sure. I feel bad for those folks and what they went through.
X¤MurderDoll¤X
08-03-2010, 05:19 PM
whatever, americans dropped atomic bomb's on hiroshima and nagasaki and then high fived each other about it for weeks. hitler sucked, the pope sucks, your mom sucks, deal with it.
oh and I'm a quarter german, my great grandfather actually died in auschwitz... he fell out of a guard tower :(
My Mom certainly does not suck. She made my favorite cake for my last birthday, even remembered the cream cheese frosting, and that's about as far removed from sucking as one can get:)
Sorry about your GGD though.
Elvis_Christ
08-03-2010, 06:41 PM
It's Adolf you fucking retard.
I myself am interested in them, for many reasons, same as Hitler, himself.
^^ and what?
X¤MurderDoll¤X
08-03-2010, 07:00 PM
^^ and what?
LOL I didn't see that.
probably because I didn't read his post
Thing that gets me is the people Hitler put in charge of the atrocities. Hitler didn't seem to have the balls to do it himself(or didn't want to take the blame later maybe) so he used people like Mengele to do his work for him.
In Mengele's case, he seemed to enjoy his work quite a bit.
Good read here:
http://www.auschwitz.dk/mengele.htm
friday13thfan
08-03-2010, 09:48 PM
Tried to read but it felt very run on and nonsensical...
Fair enough. And as you pointed out in another thread, this is for current events.
I apologize, and will keep it as such from now on.
friday13thfan
08-03-2010, 10:26 PM
Fair enough. And as you pointed out in another thread, this is for current events.
I apologize, and will keep it as such from now on.
That was to the creator or the threads not you Endo. You carry on as you were. :)
:D Thanks. Didn't want to mess up the feng shui of the forum, lol.
Bastet
08-09-2010, 07:35 PM
Thing that gets me is the people Hitler put in charge of the atrocities. Hitler didn't seem to have the balls to do it himself(or didn't want to take the blame later maybe) so he used people like Mengele to do his work for him.
In Mengele's case, he seemed to enjoy his work quite a bit.
Good read here:
http://www.auschwitz.dk/mengele.htm
Firstly, Hitler wasn't cleaver-he was merely a charismatic puppet at a time when Germany was still reeling and living in depravity after the first world war. He never actually ordered 'the Final Solution'. Although he encouraged his generals and propogandists (is that the correct word?) to come to the decision he wanted.
The Holocaust was truely vile, but the Turks comitted equal atrocities earlier in the Century when the wiped out the whole of the Armenian Nation-but this is rarely discussed.
The psychology surrounding the acts of the Russians, Germans and Japanese (and the Allies-we were not so lilly white either!), is fascinating, if sad.
I defy anyone to visit the Jewish Ghetto in Prague without reverting to tears and being overcome with humility and emotion. I cannot imagine what it would be like to visit any of the three death camps.
Ok rant over, dignity in tact! And I know this thread is wrong-but its also interesting:p
I never said Hitler was "cleaver", or clever as most would put it.;) And are you saying Hitler wasn't in charge?
Bastet
08-09-2010, 07:57 PM
I never said Hitler was "cleaver", or clever as most would put it.;) And are you saying Hitler wasn't in charge?
I wasn't arguing with you :)
Hitler was in charge at the end, but his rise to power was very cleaverly crafted bu others. It was the skill of others combined with his charisma that allowed him to become as powerful as he did. I know he had a personal hatred of the Jews and a Love of Neitze's (bad spelling, I know!) philosophy, but those alone would not have been enough to enable him to become the powerful person he was.
It is well doccumented that he never actually used the words 'Final Solution', nor did he ever put his name or signature to any document related to it. xxx
Agreed. I wasn't arguing with you either:) A terrible time in history for sure, but fascinating as well.
Bastet
08-09-2010, 08:07 PM
Agreed. I wasn't arguing with you either:) A terrible time in history for sure, but fascinating as well.
I didn't really take much interest until recently when I found that my grandfather was a Sailor involved in the Normandy Invasion-Can no longer watch Saving Private Ryan.:(
I do love the psychology of it all though and althugh it was the first WW and its precursors I studied, i found WWII interesting too; that is until my 13yr old asked me the other day whether I remember it personally!:o
I have also nursed survivors of the Death Camps, Bomber Pilots and Deasert Rats and their stories touch my hearts-although they are all gone now. Listening to their stories brought everything to life for me and seeing the emotions that it still created was at times heart wrenching.
massacre man
08-09-2010, 08:20 PM
Well, how bout we talk about someone else that I have a great interest in. Lets go back a few years, to World War Two, and set the stage, in Germany. Adolph Hitler. From his rise to power, to his last days, in a Berlin bunker. I have just been interested in him, for sometime. I started collecting Nazi Germany items, long ago. Now, as to the concentration camps, that is a tender subject with most people, so I won't get into them. If you want to talk about them, feel free to send me a private message. This way we won't offend anybody who doesn't not want to hear about them. I myself am interested in them, for many reasons, same as Hitler, himself. I can recall hearing one phrase from one of the camps... "Break the body. Break the mind. Break the spirit. Sometimes mercy was shown to the children, and they were injected with morphine, so they wouldn't feel themselves being hanged. The one I like best is the court date with Judge Roland Freisler presiding... Roland was very loud and mean... There were three men accused of trying to kill Hitler. Well, big mistake. Judge Roland roared them down, whenever the men tried to speak. he finally had enough, and in basically, told them where to go. You can tell by tone in his voice, he was pissed, big time. After he was done, the men were hanged with piano wire. Most, if not all of his decisions ended up with death. That was a time indeed.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-aqc14tIy6E/SauFzK3ngJI/AAAAAAAAABY/EjPwgo0USMQ/s320/michael+bluth.jpg
scouse mac
08-10-2010, 12:33 AM
About 4 or 5 years ago I went to Krakow in Poland and went on a tour to Auschwitz and Birkenau concentration camps. Strangest and quietest place Ive ever been to.
You can still clearly see walls with bullets holes (in Auschwitz) where they use to line people up for mass executions and the area around the (destroyed) gas chambers in Birkenau you can see shards of human bone in the earth. Unpleasant place.
AMICUS HORROR
08-10-2010, 05:56 AM
:rolleyes:
http://www.horror.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=529
Bastet
08-10-2010, 02:31 PM
About 4 or 5 years ago I went to Krakow in Poland and went on a tour to Auschwitz and Birkenau concentration camps. Strangest and quietest place Ive ever been to.
You can still clearly see walls with bullets holes (in Auschwitz) where they use to line people up for mass executions and the area around the (destroyed) gas chambers in Birkenau you can see shards of human bone in the earth. Unpleasant place.
Heartbreaking.
ProfondoXxRosso
08-10-2010, 07:18 PM
Hitler was a political genius and colossal fuck up all in the same nutshell.
The worst mistake anybody ever gave birth to since Justin Beiber.
Bastet
08-10-2010, 07:22 PM
Hitler was a political genius and colossal fuck up all in the same nutshell.
The worst mistake anybody ever gave birth to since Justin Beiber.
I don't think he was a genius-he surrounded himeslef with people who made him look good. He was just a good propagandist.
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't have tried to fight a war on two fronts at the same time- If he had known his history, he would have realised it failed miserably for Napoleon before him. Also who, with anysense invades Russia in the bloody winter?:rolleyes:
massacre man
08-10-2010, 07:23 PM
The worst mistake anybody ever gave birth to since Justin Beiber.
Justin Bieber is 16, not 122...
ProfondoXxRosso
08-10-2010, 07:30 PM
I don't think he was a genius-he surrounded himeslef with people who made him look good. He was just a good propagandist.
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't have tried to fight a war on two fronts at the same time- If he had known his history, he would have realised it failed miserably for Napoleon before him. Also who, with anysense invades Russia in the bloody winter?:rolleyes:
Politics and war is two different things. Hitler made some massive mistakes during the war, yes, but that doesnt dismiss him as a political genius. He was one of the most ingenious politicians that ever existed. He was born for the world of politics.
He is also the first to use the use of aircraft to campaign.
Bastet
08-10-2010, 07:34 PM
Politics and war is two different things. Hitler made some massive mistakes during the war, yes, but that doesnt dismiss him as a political genius. He was one of the most ingenious politicians that ever existed. He was born for the world of politics.
He is also the first to use the use of aircraft to campaign.
I agree, the Luftwaffe were awsome. But the genius bit we may have to agree to dissagree on. I think he was-at the start at least-just the right man in the right place. How else would a country embrace a failed painter?
ProfondoXxRosso
08-10-2010, 07:41 PM
I agree, the Luftwaffe were awsome. But the genius bit we may have to agree to dissagree on. I think he was-at the start at least-just the right man in the right place. How else would a country embrace a failed painter?
Not many people that can convince an entire country to elect a man that can bring about changing the entire government of Germany. He knew how to play situations to his advantage and he always did, and thats what politics is all about.
Bastet
08-10-2010, 07:45 PM
Not many people that can convince an entire country to elect a man that can bring about changing the entire government of Germany. He knew how to play situations to his advantage and he always did, and thats what politics is all about.
I do agree with you on one level, but Hitler was a charismatic person and was groomed for his position-he didn't get there of his own accord. things went tits up when he started to use his own beliefs and hatred to engineer the fate of a nation, Rather than trying to serve them x
cheebacheeba
08-10-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks this thread is a deliberate attempt at poor taste so that someone can have an excuse to whine about their right to freedom of speech and topics being "trampled", or how "it's in the right area" and you're being targeted as a new arrival?
More obvious trolling, shit stirring antics.
I mean, come on, the guy didn't even correctly spell the name of the person who claimed he had so much interest in.
...and if by some small chance it's for real, that's fucking great.
Yet another mental case to bring an overall further negative view the "general population" horror community and potentially the site specifically.
Just like the fuckers who still go on about how much a visionary genius Manson was, when you act like you're glorifying this kind of subject matter it goes over the line...there's something wrong with you, end of story.
"The one I like best..." Get real, you fucking deadshit.
ProfondoXxRosso
08-14-2010, 07:30 AM
Military Channel - Battleplan :P
Erika_Knight
08-29-2010, 05:47 PM
It can be argued that many were insane, but many were of above average intelligence and calculated the murders they committed to a tee.
What's unbelievable to me is that prior to the Holocaust, many of the Nazi members were good people, but when Hitler rose to power, he amplified all of their secret desires to murder. This led to them having concern towards the Jews the same way they'd worry about rocks. These were otherwise rational, kind folks who had their thoughts corrupted by an evil ideology of hate. Hitler's speeches instilled an insane hatred for Jews, and this was the framework for how they could bring about so many deaths and not have it on their conscience - Of course it's obvious they were deranged for doing this, but we've also gotta look at all the misery that compounded their craziness. Germany was pretty chaotic before WWII occured, and seeing as Hitler rescued their economy, they felt more justified in adopting his views.
X¤MurderDoll¤X
08-29-2010, 06:32 PM
can we all just agree that adolf hitler was AWESOME?
Caenxavier
08-29-2010, 07:33 PM
He did ruin a style of mustache.... anyone who can ruin a hairstyle for good deserves some credit.
X¤MurderDoll¤X
08-29-2010, 07:45 PM
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illdojo
08-29-2010, 10:53 PM
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Elvis_Christ
08-29-2010, 11:31 PM
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/snoopymei/hitler-watermelon.gif
X¤MurderDoll¤X
08-29-2010, 11:54 PM
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Elvis_Christ
08-29-2010, 11:57 PM
http://www.iphonespies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/200px-Funny_Hitler.jpg
X¤MurderDoll¤X
08-29-2010, 11:58 PM
it's been long enough, I say we just forgive him.
blank slate, let's start fresh.