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ShankS
07-29-2010, 11:46 AM
Couldn't see another thread for this...

have a read about this Serbian horror, sounds cranky

He returns to the set and finds a number of tapes. He learns that he was drugged, made to rape, beat and brutally murder a woman and eat a mans' genitals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Serbian_Film

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1273235/

endo
07-29-2010, 04:09 PM
A friend just gave me a copy of this today. Probably be Sunday before I can watch it.
Sounds like it's gonna be rough.

Elvis_Christ
07-29-2010, 06:23 PM
This one does push it in a couple of scenes. I cringe at one everytime I think about it... one squirt of blood just made it really vile.

It's more than just a shock for shock's sake flick (but maybe I'm just kidding myself).

One of the better character studies since the Pusher trilogy.

endo
07-29-2010, 06:47 PM
I've been wanting to see this since I read about it....but as the time draws near, I'm a little nervous, lol.
We'll see what's up Sunday.

Elvis_Christ
07-30-2010, 04:57 AM
You were the dude after harsh shit a few threads back right?

mrajan
07-30-2010, 05:06 AM
;)Milos is a former porn star who is down on his luck financially. When he receives a call from his long-time movie actress partner, Layla, he welcomes her call. Apparently shes heard that a new film director wants to hire Milos to star in his "artistically designed" porn film for a very generous price. He is easily lured form his semi-retirement by the lucrative offer, agreeing to meet the director in an isolated mansion.

endo
07-30-2010, 06:50 AM
You were the dude after harsh shit a few threads back right?


Yeah. And I can't wait to see it. I just hope it does it for me. I don't necessarily need to see a newborn violated, but I want something that shocks me.
I read the description of the film to my wife and she's already said flat out she's not watching any of it.

Just got Martyrs today from NetFlix, so it looks like Sunday will be a double feature day.

endo
08-01-2010, 02:37 PM
A Serbian film sucked to me. Didn't shock in the least. My wife watched it with me, and if she can watch it, it's not....scary or upsetting at all.
The "baby" scene was ridiculous and the fact that some are saying it is so well shot, footage wise....I don't get it.
Just my opinion, but it seemed like another average film that promises to disturb and shock, and doesn't deliver.
Meh, maybe what is disturbing nowadays isn't the same meaning for me.

Off to watch Martyrs now. I hope that's good at least.

urdevil
08-03-2010, 04:50 AM
A Serbian film sucked to me. Didn't shock in the least. My wife watched it with me, and if she can watch it, it's not....scary or upsetting at all.
The "baby" scene was ridiculous and the fact that some are saying it is so well shot, footage wise....I don't get it.
Just my opinion, but it seemed like another average film that promises to disturb and shock, and doesn't deliver.
Meh, maybe what is disturbing nowadays isn't the same meaning for me.

Off to watch Martyrs now. I hope that's good at least.

I hoped you enjoyed it. If you have time get copies of Ma Mere and Funny Games. Ma Mere is IMO one of the most distrssing films I have seen. Funny Games is not a walk in the park either. If you have seen them what did you think of them?

endo
08-03-2010, 03:53 PM
I haven't seen those two, but I will certainly check them out. Thanks!!

ChronoGrl
11-26-2010, 01:21 PM
Bumping this as I just read about it in Rue Morgue Magazine. Want to know what you guys think about it, particularly EC and Ferox.

EC - Sounds like you liked it?

I don't think that I'd every watch the film (it sounds like it would upset me too much), but my sense of curiosity is just overwhelming. Tell me about the movie. Details. Thoughts. Pros. Cons. I'm curious.

Is it really up there with the "most disturbing movies of all time" (Martyrs, Visitor Q, etc.)

What of this "newborn porn scene" that I've heard so much about - It's the main reason why I don't think I could possibly watch the film, so I'm curious - What's the point of the scene in the movie? Is it as disturbing as it sounds?

Angra
11-27-2010, 12:29 AM
What of this "newborn porn scene" that I've heard so much about - It's the main reason why I don't think I could possibly watch the film, so I'm curious - What's the point of the scene in the movie? Is it as disturbing as it sounds?


You don't get to see a whole lot, but it's the babys crying/screaming that gets to you.

Not a movie i would like watch again, but i actually thought it was good. And the lead actor did a fantastic job. His character somehow reminded me of Dae-su Oh (Oldboy).

TheWickerFan
11-27-2010, 04:28 AM
You don't get to see a whole lot, but it's the babys crying/screaming that gets to you.



That really puts me off the film. I was definitely interested in the film, but the idea of the rape of a newborn with the sound of a crying, screaming baby in the background might just be too much. Maybe I should turn the sound down during that particular scene.

Monet's Muse
11-27-2010, 05:19 AM
I saw this before the buzz about it came onto the message boards and internet. I went into this movie knowing really nothing about it. Its a beautifully shot film...very nice to look at. These are thee most disturbing scenes I've ever seen up to date. It bothered me for days after and I thought what the fuck did I just watch but maybe for me it was different...I dug it. I like being disturbed. I like feeling uneasy. I watch alot of underground films. This is brilliant. The machete sex scene is my favourite, brutal to the core. I love when a film pushes to the limits...to me its a type of beautiful art. I don't suggest this film to anyone cause I do not know their limits but if you do watch it, it will get to you but you will recover.

Ferox13
11-27-2010, 06:19 AM
Bumping this as I just read about it in Rue Morgue Magazine. Want to know what you guys think about it, particularly EC and Ferox.

It wasn't bad and it was pretty shocking - it was a lot better put together than other nasty films like mordum/tumbling doll of flesh which made it kinda odd.

It also had some dept to it which tied in with Serbian history/war etc but I'm probably too dumb to notice these things. Personally, I feel it was done in the same way as Hostel 1/2...

I must admit it was the most memorable 'fucked from birth' metaphor I've seen..

I loved the music too..

Elvis_Christ
11-28-2010, 03:01 PM
It also had some dept to it which tied in with Serbian history/war etc but I'm probably too dumb to notice these things.


The director has described it as post-war reactionary piece similar to the shake up of the US film industry after the Vietnam war. I definitely see it as a challenge to the predominantly mainstream Serbian film industry but the post-war metaphors don't really have much more depth than "Serbia is fucked up" (well to me anyway). But yeh there's lots you could take from it if you took the time to dissect it.

A Serbian Film will definitely make my "Top List" for 2010 and I rank it up there with recent excellent foreign films such as Calvaire, Ex-Drummer and Taxidermia.

I'm a big fan of the downbeat and gritty character study films that come out of the 90s (stuff like God's Lonely Man and Bad Lieutenant) and this film along with the Pusher trilogy really took me back to one of my favourite periods of cinema stylistically.

A dark twisted film for sure but it shouldn't be written off as mere exploitation or shock for shock's sake and it really annoys me that the film has been marketed/hyped in this way. It's a stylish well crafted film that asserts Serbia's filmic voice showing there a force to be reckoned with. It totally shows how tired shit like Wolf Creek and Eden Lake really is.

The film is confronting and it's an experience like all good films should be. The fact that people are choosing not to watch it drives home the film's underlying themes of society ignoring it's ills pretending they don't exist.

roshiq
11-28-2010, 09:54 PM
A Serbian Film will definitely make my "Top List" for 2010 and I rank it up there with recent excellent foreign films such as Calvaire, Ex-Drummer and Taxidermia
I'm a big fan of the downbeat and gritty character study films that come out of the 90s (stuff like God's Lonely Man and Bad Lieutenant) and this film along with the Pusher trilogy really took me back to one of my favourite periods of cinema stylistically.


Seen Calvaire recently...kinda dark, twisted & atmospheric. Overall, very good indeed.
Downloading...Ex Drummer. Hope to give it a watch in this weekend.
Taxidermia & God's Lonely Man...sounds pretty interesting, adding to the list.

Ferox13
11-30-2010, 04:18 AM
I think you put me onto Ex Drummer - man i loved that film...

I'm actually rewatching the Pusher trilogy at the moment (well the first 2 I just rewatched but I'm watching the last one for the first time tonight)

Elvis_Christ
11-30-2010, 01:26 PM
"MONGOLIOD HE WAS A MONGOLIOD..." :D

The third Pusher flick is killer. I wasn't that into the second one compared to the other two.

TheWickerFan
12-20-2010, 02:16 PM
I watched A Serbian Film, and I have to say I was all right up until the last act. That was too much (those who have seen the film will know what I'm talking about). The 'newborn porn' scene was nowhere near as disturbing as that.

Scarebaby
12-21-2010, 01:47 AM
I think you put me onto Ex Drummer - man i loved that film...

I'm actually rewatching the Pusher trilogy at the moment (well the first 2 I just rewatched but I'm watching the last one for the first time tonight)

You mean the Danish or something else?

Ferox13
12-21-2010, 03:47 AM
You mean the Danish or something else?

What ya mean?

Scarebaby
12-21-2010, 01:09 PM
I'm just wondering if you mean the Danish dogma series, or an entirely different 'Pusher'.

Sym
12-21-2010, 01:29 PM
I wasn't entirely impressed, but this may be, unfortunately, because by my peers this film was driven with nothing but hype, the kinda people that dig watching online footage of people getting tortured and killed, and that's the mindset I took to it while watching, at least at first.

I definitely recognized it for something else though, but I have to say that the highbrow allure which the story aims for falls short in comparison to something like Le Calvaire or Martyrs. It's hard to take it really seriously when the few nasty scenes seem to define the film itself, (As decreed by many sources, not necessarily saying the film claims this itself, but with its story, this is how it felt to me.) and that's a bit sad since this film takes itself very seriously.

The famous scenes are something indeed, but I kind of had to laugh at the newporn scene. It might have shocked me a bit more had I seen an umbilical chord anywhere. Would have added to the realism. Plus Milo raping that guy in the eye? What the heck? That would work wonderfully in a slasher like Friday the Thirteenth, but the approach to realism that this film yearns for is shot to hell with scenes like that. But what do I know, maybe you can actually kill someone by raping them through the brain. Oh and the antagonist cheering on Milo after he smashes half his head on the floor...haha, right. It seems that everyone is so psychotic in this that it should belong to genres spawned in the seventies. Not too subtle...

I didn't dislike it though. There are different ways to view a movie, and if I don't get too technical about things, it was a whole lot of fun, although a bit dragging at times.

ChronoGrl
12-21-2010, 04:58 PM
I must admit it was the most memorable 'fucked from birth' metaphor I've seen..



Even though it seems obvious, I completely missed it - Makes me understand the purpose a bit more... Even though I still don't think I could sit through it, I guess I get the point...

But this whole discussion comes up again for me... Does the the end justify the means? I guess I ask this because I have such a tough time with exploitation films...

neverending
12-21-2010, 05:45 PM
Just keep repeating, "It's only a movie... It's only a movie..."

Sym
12-21-2010, 06:27 PM
But this whole discussion comes up again for me... Does the the end justify the means? I guess I ask this because I have such a tough time with exploitation films...

Desensitized much?
We horror fans watch countless of films where people get murdered and die, what's wrong with raping babies?

ChronoGrl
12-21-2010, 07:06 PM
Desensitized much?
We horror fans watch countless of films where people get murdered and die, what's wrong with raping babies?

Hmmm... If I were truly DEsensitized, wouldn't I not be bothered by baby rape? :rolleyes:



I don't think it's so much judging (the word "wrong" implies that I was judging either the makes of the film or its fans) - It's about my own personal tolerance to the subject matter. Just because one is a fan of horror in general doesn't mean that that person is a fanatic about ALL ASPECTS horror. Everyone has their favorite and least favorite sub-genres. Personally, I have an extremely difficult time sitting through torture or exploitation films. I'm not judging those who do - On the contrary, I am still incredibly interested and want to know as much about the subgenre as possible - Since I can't stand to watch, I like to ask those who have seen the films and those who enjoy them. I bumped this thread in particular to get the take of Ferox and EC whom, not only enjoy these films, but also have a considerable knowledge of this genre as a whole so while I don't think I'd ever want to watch the film, I like to know what genre fans truly think of it.

To say We horror fans watch countless of films where people get murdered and die, what's wrong with raping babies? is a glib, annoying over-simplification and I'm not sure what your point is.

ChronoGrl
12-21-2010, 07:12 PM
Even though it seems obvious, I completely missed it - Makes me understand the purpose a bit more... Even though I still don't think I could sit through it, I guess I get the point...


Ferox: This might have come off wrong way; I was actually trying to compliment you on your observation of the metaphor of being "fucked at birth" - I used the term "obvious" toward myself because I missed that completely and felt silly for doing so. It seemed "obvious" to me once you said it, but I didn't catch on to it by myself.

:o

It's actually darkly clever.

TheWickerFan
12-22-2010, 12:49 AM
It's a very well made film, but I'm still trying to decide if I can get past that one scene (not the newborn porn scene). That scene was exceptionally disturbing.

Sistinas666
12-22-2010, 01:48 AM
Desensitized much?
We horror fans watch countless of films where people get murdered and die, what's wrong with raping babies?



I think I could live with myself if I killed a person. I could not rape a baby nor live with it.



Its like I could kick most people but I could never kick (nearly) any dog.



As a parent perhaps my perception is biased. Babies and animals are innocent, and its truly disturbing and frightening to me seeing depictions of violence towards them. Don't get me wrong, I plan on watching this movie within the next couple of days and a baby rape is not going to make judge it. Knowing that in real life people could commit such acts is truly "horror".

Ferox13
01-01-2011, 04:19 AM
I'm just wondering if you mean the Danish dogma series, or an entirely different 'Pusher'.

Ya the pusher series..

Even though it seems obvious, I completely missed it - Makes me understand the purpose a bit more... Even though I still don't think I could sit through it, I guess I get the point...

But this whole discussion comes up again for me... Does the the end justify the means? I guess I ask this because I have such a tough time with exploitation films...

Yeah I definally think its worth watching - its well made and not completely mindless though its not half as clever as it thinks it is. At the end of the day its an exploitation film and not a political satire and as such it does its job nicely..

Unfortunally at this stage its hard for you to watch with preconceptions, so already the film is over hyped/under hyped etc etc..

On a side note, I loved the sound track too.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/ferox-13/Avatars%20etc/HorrorSig.jpg

jeffghoul
03-31-2011, 04:51 PM
I'm hosting a screening of this film on the 16th of April for a few close friends. I'll be cooking all day & making a trip to the liquor store. This is a "black tie" event, too & for the ladies: dress/skirt or something comparable.

We shall see how the reactions are post-film. I, myself am a huge fan & am looking forward to sharing this wonderful piece of art/cinema with those I feel will not only "get" it, but appreciate it, too.

Only time will tell I suppose!

ferretchucker
04-13-2011, 03:36 AM
Dammit, Ferox!!! :mad:

Just finished watching this on a "friends" recommendation. Wow. It's just fucked from the start, isn't it. Now that you've said it about the "fucked from birth" metaphor, I kinda see the point of that scene. But yeah, this director clearly has...odd thoughts.

Ferox13
04-13-2011, 04:19 AM
Dammit, Ferox!!! :mad:

Just finished watching this on a "friends" recommendation. Wow. It's just fucked from the start, isn't it. Now that you've said it about the "fucked from birth" metaphor, I kinda see the point of that scene. But yeah, this director clearly has...odd thoughts.

LOL - glad you 'enjoyed' it...

Bizarre
04-13-2011, 06:14 AM
I've literally just finished watching it, I saw this thread 100-ish minutes ago and decided to put it on.

I don't really know what to think.

It was a good film in that, unlike most exploitation films I've seen, I actually cared for the main characters in this. The main narrative of trying to gradually work out what has happened and it being so much worse than anything you could've imagined was something different and in light of the more horrific scenes you find yourself desensitized to some other scenes in the film (tooth pulling?).

The dick in the eye was silly. The pure anger was lost in that scene. I can only compare it to a similar part of 28 days later, but the use of his cock just made it ridiculous. I'm sure the director was trying to make a not-too-subtle point but in that moment, Milos wouldn't be too concerned with irony - I'd imagine.

I knew enough about the film before watching to not be sure whether I wanted to see it but had forgotten most of what I'd heard about it. The end is just the roughest thing I've ever seen in a film and that is why I can't say I enjoyed it. I'm still a little stunned and sickened so it's difficult to praise any cinematography that may very well deserve praise right now.

DickLaurentIsDead
04-14-2011, 10:31 AM
Wait, what!?
newborn porn? eye socket rape?

uh... SIGN ME UP PLEASE!

Where do I get this?

swiss tony
04-26-2011, 03:03 AM
Desensitized much?
We horror fans watch countless of films where people get murdered and die, what's wrong with raping babies?

LOL If that's not tongue in cheek then it's the funniest thing I've read on HDC, hands down (I know you're being ironic Sym).

I'm with Sistina on this one. It's the cruelty to vulnerable/helpless victims who are without sin. I can watch any violence to any adult in a movie but kids and animals just gets me eg. the most disturbing scene in American Psycho is the dog getting stomped!

swiss tony
04-26-2011, 03:05 AM
Ps. Having a one year old, there's no f**king way I'm watching a movie with a baby rape in it. Albeit an 'artistic' baby rape.

Angra
04-26-2011, 03:42 AM
Ps. Having a one year old, there's no f**king way I'm watching a movie with a baby rape in it. Albeit an 'artistic' baby rape.

You damn well have to, or you're outa here. :D

swiss tony
04-26-2011, 03:50 AM
You damn well have to, or you're outa here. :D

Well when you put it like that and, well, watching baby rape is as apparently no more unsettling than your average horror victim demise... oh go on then!:)

Ferox13
04-26-2011, 05:22 AM
This thread should be moved to the Modern Horror FIlm section at this stage..