An open challenge! [Archive] - Horror.com Forums

_____V_____

07-08-2010, 08:59 AM

The thread title says it all.

Can we challenge all of ourselves to do this, for those numerous new horror fans out there who come here repeatedly and expect it from us?

There have been plenty of threads over the past 5 years I have been here which have repeatedly referred to this one topic, and umpteen times we have addressed them with an explanation.

And again. And again.

And it seems that every time, all the collective explanations or replies by our best members have never removed that particular doubt from the horror fans' minds.

The newest thread posted again on THAT topic in Modern Horror is no exception.

Things are a bit busy right now - with the BR III, Showdown II, Quotes, FIFA WC 2010 and the Villains 100 compilation. In addition, I am sure most of you are busy with summer stuff/vacations/studies in your lives too. But when the holiday season starts to kick in and all these projects are over, I ll want ALL of you to join hands with me to put an end to that ONE query once and for all, by all the newly registered horror fans who visit horror.com again and again, with the hope that their doubts regarding this ONE topic will be cleared once and for all, but they go away unsatisfied despite our best efforts to address it.

I will call upon all of you as soon as most of those projects listed above are over. Please wait for it. It might turn out to be a much, MUCH bigger challenge than you expect.

I will need all of you.

Soon.

ferretchucker

07-08-2010, 01:38 PM

Sounds very intriguing. Can't wait.

Caenxavier

07-09-2010, 12:40 AM

I should have unstolen, fast internet by then :rolleyes:

Weapon X

07-09-2010, 02:30 AM

Bring it on.

TheWickerFan

07-09-2010, 03:06 AM

As long as I don't have to write an essay, I guess I'm in.:D

friday13thfan

07-09-2010, 09:06 PM

I'm all over this.

Bastet

07-10-2010, 12:34 AM

Ok, will give it a go so long as i don't have to be on here 24/7 :cool:

_____V_____

09-30-2010, 10:21 PM

Did you forget about this?

Bet not.

Now that BR III, FIFA WC 2010 and the Villains 100 compilation are done and just the two tourneys remain (plus not to forget that we just stepped into the official Halloween season), this challenge will be upon us soon.

Wait with expectance. I will need all of you.

The Ugly Duchess

09-30-2010, 10:35 PM

Sounds interesting

Sistinas666

09-30-2010, 11:21 PM

I wanna play.

The_Return

10-01-2010, 03:13 AM

You know I'm down.

Ripley666

10-01-2010, 10:49 AM

I would, but I don't think that Chrono will let me. :(

fiend_skull

10-01-2010, 10:16 PM

You've captured my interest...until my attention span gives ou...

Elvis_Christ

10-01-2010, 10:19 PM

I'm down with helping out!

I would, but I don't think that Chrono will let me. :(

awww man. Bite that muthafucker :p

roshiq

10-01-2010, 11:37 PM

I would, but I don't think that Chrono will let me. :(

yeah..I hope she won't dare.:rolleyes: Non-human participants aren't allowed.

Zero

10-02-2010, 06:21 AM

yeah..I hope she won't dare.:rolleyes: Non-human participants aren't allowed.

oi!! speciesist!

ferretchucker

10-02-2010, 04:37 PM

oi!! speciesist!

Non Primate*

Freak

10-03-2010, 08:34 PM

I would love to do whatever this is but my computer crashed on me 2 weeks ago and I have no way to check on this on a daily basis.But I hope to bve able to check in every once in awhile.

Ripley666

10-04-2010, 12:46 PM

oi!! speciesist!

TOTAL speciesist.

RIOT! RIOT! RIOT! RIOT!

_____V_____

10-05-2010, 10:28 AM

It is most certainly not a game or tournament, Freak. You don't need to be here everyday.

But yes, it will need your contribution. And participation.

_____V_____

10-05-2010, 10:29 AM

This could very well turn out to be a really tough challenge for all of you involved.

Since it's the season of Halloween (and the Boogeyman), I think it's only fair to divide this very challenging task between two groups (to make it slightly easier, if nothing else).

And if we have two groups, then we will need two group captains.

Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to the chosen ones...

NEWB

and

ZERO

As for the groups and the steep task ahead, wait some more...

TheWickerFan

10-05-2010, 10:50 AM

Whoa!! A team sport? I'm no good at those. I best not play.:(

_____V_____

10-05-2010, 10:57 AM

Whoa!! A team sport? I'm no good at those. I best not play.:(

It is most certainly not a game or tournament, Freak. You don't need to be here everyday.

But yes, it will need your contribution. And participation.

Let me reiterate, this is not a competition, nor a tournament, nor a game, nor a sport.

The whole purpose of this action, is to divide the difficult task ahead into two, so that it becomes slightly easier to control and to collate. Ergo the groups.

TheWickerFan

10-05-2010, 11:03 AM

Let me reiterate, this is not a competition, nor a tournament, nor a game, nor a sport.

The whole purpose of this action, is to divide the difficult task ahead into two, so that it becomes slightly easier to control and to collate. Ergo the groups.

Oh, okay. I'll try my best to help, but I'm not very good at writing essays or reviews (it always seems to come out " like movie. movie fun." or "hate movie. movie go away.") I just don't want to be responsible for screwing this up in some way.:(

Zero

10-05-2010, 12:07 PM

i want to top half - Newb can work on the ass-end!!

_____V_____

10-05-2010, 12:15 PM

Zero's reply - "God help us all..."

Newb's reply - "BRING IT ON!"

You know which group to choose, folks...:D

On a more serious note, I really hope this will be THE defining effort HDC has ever done in it's 17 year old history.

Well...8 year old history, if you count from the times this forum was first built, that is.

Oh, okay. I'll try my best to help, but I'm not very good at writing essays or reviews (it always seems to come out " like movie. movie fun." or "hate movie. movie go away.") I just don't want to be responsible for screwing this up in some way.:(

No essays, no reviews.

Am I raising the anticipation yet? ;)

Zero

10-05-2010, 12:19 PM

Well...8 year old history, if you count from the times this forum was first built, that is.

8 years old - that explains the mentality of this group!

Personally, if it is a big project that will change the world for the better I'm betting we're going to assasinate Uwe Boll

_____V_____

10-05-2010, 12:21 PM

Careful. Uwe might be reading this and challenge you to a boxing match.

Posher778

10-05-2010, 12:40 PM

I call newb's group, end of discussion :)

The Flayed One

10-05-2010, 01:18 PM

Sounds interesting.

Zero

10-05-2010, 03:51 PM

I call newb's group, end of discussion :)

words cannot express how grateful i am for this

Posher778

10-05-2010, 05:02 PM

words cannot express how grateful i am for this

Lalalalala Monkeys are animals lalalalalalala monkeys cannot talk lalalalalala

_____V_____

10-05-2010, 09:42 PM

And we have our first drafting -

Posher is allocated to Zero's group.

fortunato

10-05-2010, 10:00 PM

I'm in..........

Zero

10-06-2010, 03:57 AM

Lalalalala Monkeys are animals lalalalalalala monkeys cannot talk lalalalalala

but we can type

roshiq

10-06-2010, 11:50 PM

So how long we have to wait for our first challenge?

Add me on newb's group...it'll be unfair for if 2 BR Crown winner work in a same group which can be too much threatening for any the other group here..:cool:

(:D:D:D)

_____V_____

10-07-2010, 07:07 AM

It will in fact be your first, last and only challenge.

Let me see - the people who have responded so far are randomised, and here we go...

Newb's Group

Posher778

Weapon X

Friday13thFan

The Ugly Duchess

Elvis Christ

Fiend Skull

Roshiq

Caenxavier

Fortunato

Zero's Group

Ferretchucker

The WickerFan

Bastet

Sistinas666

Ripley666 (Ahem!)

The Return

Freak

The Flayed One

Massacre Man

...will add some more randomised selections later.

We tee off on Halloween.

Ripley666

10-07-2010, 07:15 AM

Sweet! I get to be with my Sweetie. <3

Posher778

10-07-2010, 08:48 AM

Wow V you're so fucking cool.

_____V_____

10-07-2010, 08:53 AM

LOL...

Admit it. Deep down you love to spank the monkey. :D

Posher778

10-07-2010, 08:58 AM

LOL...

Admit it. Deep down you love to spank the monkey. :D

Only when browsing your facebook pics:cool:

ferretchucker

10-07-2010, 09:16 AM

I'm intrigued...

And liking my team :)

Posher778

10-07-2010, 09:26 AM

I'll probably end up disappearing since V's already trying to spite me weeks before it starts.

Ripley666

10-07-2010, 09:30 AM

LOL...

Admit it. Deep down you love to spank the monkey. :D

He's MINE.

I will claw your vocal chords out for him, Posh. :mad:

ChronoGrl

10-07-2010, 09:31 AM

I'll probably end up disappearing since V's already trying to spite me weeks before it starts.

waa waa waa ;) <3

Zero

10-07-2010, 04:39 PM

:D ;)

i'm very happy with my team!

Sweet! I get to be with my Sweetie. <3

The Flayed One

10-07-2010, 05:59 PM

:D ;)

i'm very happy with my team!

You're welcome:cool:

massacre man

10-10-2010, 03:26 PM

Well, well, well. What's all this then?

The_Return

10-10-2010, 09:02 PM

Ugh...so I get stuck with demon-spawn kitty AND Posher?

At least we've got the monkey in charge...

_____V_____

10-11-2010, 06:51 AM

I'll probably end up disappearing since V's already trying to spite me weeks before it starts.

*in Mary Poppins's voice*

Oh all right, all right. If we must, we must. :rolleyes:

Posher is drafted into Newb's team, swapped with Ferretchucker who goes into the monkey's team.

Well, I was hoping that the tourneys would be over by October-end at least (sheesh Showdown II has turned to be the LONGEST(!) tourney in the history of HDC), but judging by the slow response of voters...don't think both of them will finish up before December.

So, next week, we will have a preview of things to come and get the ball rolling on this.

Oh yes, Massacre Man is drafted into Zero's team as well.

massacre man

10-11-2010, 07:42 AM

Me and Ferretchucker on a team!? Dude, I'm bringing snacks.

Ripley666

10-11-2010, 09:44 AM

Ugh...so I get stuck with demon-spawn kitty AND Posher?

At least we've got the monkey in charge...

Hey - HEY

We are a veritable animal POWERHOUSE.

Simian + Vampiric Penguin + Sphynx

How could we NOT rule?!?!?!

Zero

10-11-2010, 10:16 AM

Hey - HEY

We are a veritable animal POWERHOUSE.

Simian + Vampiric Penguin + Sphynx

How could we NOT rule?!?!?!

we rule - oh yes - we rule

_____V_____

10-11-2010, 11:05 AM

Here's the complete team listing, based on who all have been online and posted in 2010, and who most likely might be online before this project is over...

Newb's Group

AmericanManiac
Bastet
Bwind22
Cheebacheeba
Crabapple
Deadklown
Despare
DPMcCoy
Elvis Christ
Endo
Ferox13
Fiend Skull
Fortunato
FreddyMyers
Friday13thFan
Fuglystick
Geddy
Hammerfan
Horror4ever
Kemal
MissMacabre
Neverending
Novakru
PhantomStranger
Posher778
Psycho d
Psycom5K
Roshiq
Scarebaby
Shanks
Straker
The Mothman
Ugly Duchess
Urgeok
Weapon X
Zwoti

Zero's Group

Alkytrio666
Amicus Horror
Angra
Austin316426808
Bloody Ribcut
Cactus
Caenxavier
Dante's Inferno
Disease
Doc Faustus
Dude Guadalupe
Ferretchucker
The Flayed One
Freak
Gorephobia
Hacelikewhoa
Hellfire1
Illdojo
Jenna26
ManchestrMorgue
Massacre man
Milktoaste
Murderdoll
Nicklord1
Nightmare of death
Rayne
The Return
Ripley666 (aka...you know who)
Roderick Usher
Scouse mac
Siorai
Sistinas666
Spookhouse
Wicked Lady
TheWickerfan
Wufongtan

Find your name in the lists. Check out your groups. And wait eagerly.

We tee off next week.

Ripley666

10-11-2010, 11:20 AM

Ripley666 (aka...you know who)

Woah woah woah - hat is this "you know who" business... ;)

ferretchucker

10-11-2010, 02:39 PM

Where is chrono when her cat is posting on this site?!

Freak

10-11-2010, 06:54 PM

I guess I'm in then.

Rorschach

10-11-2010, 10:33 PM

No place for me? :(

_____V_____

10-12-2010, 02:11 AM

I am sure your original self is already in one of the groups.

If not, then you go into Newb's.

_____V_____

10-14-2010, 05:06 AM

A small peek of things to come...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kSYInsJVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511vy0HaXxL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lVmCoSWgL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51nXyzndXZL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wxNZ1uigL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

TheWickerFan

10-14-2010, 05:12 AM

Well, I've seen 4 of those movies. Hopefully that will help.

missmacabre

10-14-2010, 02:19 PM

Can I still get in on this?

edit: Seems I already am. Cool.

edit edit: I am the most kick ass team ever. Too bad this isn't a competition.

massacre man

10-14-2010, 04:41 PM

edit edit: I am the most kick ass team ever. Too bad this isn't a competition.

You better bring it.

endo

10-14-2010, 06:36 PM

Aw man. I want in, but I'm afraid I'm gonna fuck it all up. Wait....I'm not.....?

_____V_____

10-14-2010, 10:46 PM

Aw man. I want in, but I'm afraid I'm gonna fuck it all up. Wait....I'm not.....?

Here's the complete team listing, based on who all have been online and posted in 2010, and who most likely might be online before this project is over...

Newb's Group

AmericanManiac
Bastet
Bwind22
Cheebacheeba
Crabapple
Deadklown
Despare
DPMcCoy
Elvis Christ
Endo <-------
Ferox13
Fiend Skull
Fortunato
FreddyMyers
Friday13thFan
Fuglystick
Geddy
Hammerfan
Horror4ever
Kemal
MissMacabre
Neverending
Novakru
PhantomStranger
Posher778
Psycho d
Psycom5K
Roshiq
Scarebaby
Shanks
Straker
The Mothman
Ugly Duchess
Urgeok
Weapon X
Zwoti

Zero's Group

Alkytrio666
Amicus Horror
Angra
Austin316426808
Bloody Ribcut
Cactus
Caenxavier
Dante's Inferno
Disease
Doc Faustus
Dude Guadalupe
Ferretchucker
The Flayed One
Freak
Gorephobia
Hacelikewhoa
Hellfire1
Illdojo
Jenna26
ManchestrMorgue
Massacre man
Milktoaste
Murderdoll
Nicklord1
Nightmare of death
Rayne
The Return
Ripley666 (aka...you know who)
Roderick Usher
Scouse mac
Siorai
Sistinas666
Spookhouse
Wicked Lady
TheWickerfan
Wufongtan

Find your name in the lists. Check out your groups. And wait eagerly.

Next week, folks.

_____V_____

10-17-2010, 10:18 AM

You better bring it.

Tomorrow .

Zero

10-17-2010, 11:12 AM

waiting ..

massacre man

10-17-2010, 02:58 PM

Tomorrow .

Tomorrow.
I love you.
Tomorrow.

fortunato

10-17-2010, 06:12 PM

Hoo-ha. Our team is bad-ass.

Weapon X

10-18-2010, 12:36 AM

Can't wait!

Scarebaby

10-18-2010, 12:47 AM

Woo, go newbs!

_____V_____

10-18-2010, 11:02 AM

THE OFFICIAL HDC TOP 200 HORROR FILMS OF THE 00s

Yes, you read that right, folks.

Since the inception of this forum, we have had several threads and new members asking if horror was well and truly on the decline. "Modern horror sucks" was basically the theme of almost every third new thread posted in our forums.

And many a time, one or more of the knowledgeable members of HDC pointed out in those threads about the numerous fantastic films that the Y2K decade has produced. But still, the nagging doubt in the new horror fans remained.

We all know (well, at least most of us know) that we have had several fine examples of contemporary horror cinema which have become shining examples of the finest in horror film making in the past decade. The first part of the decade had them, and so did the second part.

And here comes the part about the groups.

We need 200 of the finest that the Noughties (the 00s, era from 2000-2009) have put out. I need both of you groups to put your collective thinking caps on and under the able guidance and assistance of your respective group leaders, make a list of recommendations for the newly formed horror fans out there to serve as a guide on viewing in modern horror.

100 from Zero's group. (plus 25 Honorable Mentions)

100 from Newb's group. (plus 25 Honorable Mentions)

Zero's group will handle the era from 2000-2004.

Newb's group will handle the era from 2005-2009.

(now you know why I regard this as a challenge!)

Please be reminded that you have to include those films whose release dates are between January 01st, 2000 and December 31st, 2009 ONLY. None earlier, none later.

And feel free to add any good foreign horror films in your lists. Send your PMs to your group leaders who will then collect them and arrange them in an alphabetical list, before sending them to me.

Group leaders - Zero and Newb - please see that the maximum number of members in your respective groups get involved in this huge compilation. The more members are involved, the more diversified choices we will have. I am counting on both of you to help me with this immense task.

So folks, I need the help and assistance of each and every one of you to make this successful. Lend a hand, and come together with me, as we make yet another part of HDC history.

Thank you, and good luck to all.

ChronoGrl

10-18-2010, 11:10 AM

We need 200 of the finest that the Noughties (the 00s, era from 2000-2009) have put out.

Awesome - awesome - AWESOME!

I am SO TIRED of n00bs complaining about how MODERN HORRER SUX.

Pretty psyched to put together a list.

I mean - I bet RIPLEY is pretty psyched to put together a list. heh.

TheWickerFan

10-18-2010, 11:14 AM

Sent an initial list to Zero (26 movies). I'll do some investigating and try to find more films.

Ripley666

10-18-2010, 11:15 AM

Sent an initial list to Zero (26 movies). I'll do some investigating and try to find more films.

Geez! You're quick!

I'm trying to get my head around this... Whether it makes sense for me to break up the movies into sub-genres to keep them organized.

Question for V et al: So sometimes there will be a discrepancy in IMDB between the date that they put in parenthasis after the movie title and the actual "Release Date" - As a rule, which do you go by?

In the example of Audition: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/

In parenthesis, the date is 1999, but the "Release Date" is cited as '2000' - This confuses me.

Ripley666

10-18-2010, 11:22 AM

Ooo - Ooo - Ooo - Team: If anyone is interested in doing this over Google Docs, let me know. Might be a good way to organize it.

massacre man

10-18-2010, 01:23 PM

Sent a list of 18 to Zero, I'll try thinking of more later tonight.

Straker

10-18-2010, 03:26 PM

Is there a deadline for this?

Ripley666

10-18-2010, 03:39 PM

I created a google doc. PM me if you'd like to view/edit it. Unfortunately couldn't come up with more... hmmmmmm

wufongtan.

10-18-2010, 04:36 PM

I could only think of 3. I just know when the list comes out. I'm gonna be like "ooooo forgot about that one."

_____V_____

10-18-2010, 09:11 PM

Question for V et al: So sometimes there will be a discrepancy in IMDB between the date that they put in parenthasis after the movie title and the actual "Release Date" - As a rule, which do you go by?

In the example of Audition: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/

In parenthesis, the date is 1999, but the "Release Date" is cited as '2000' - This confuses me.

The release date. If the worldwide release date is after 01st January 2000, it's in.

bwind22

10-18-2010, 09:24 PM

I just sent newb a list of 75. There might be a few 2010's in there, but I assume they'll be removed some time in the organizational process. A sad, sad amount of remakes and sequels.

_____V_____

10-18-2010, 09:25 PM

Roderick Usher has sent in his choices to me through Facebook. I am forwarding them to you, Zero. Please go through them.

roshiq

10-18-2010, 10:40 PM

Great project, V! I'll sent my entry soon to Newb. :)

fortunato

10-18-2010, 11:19 PM

Mine are in.

missmacabre

10-19-2010, 05:37 AM

Would it be bad if 80% of my choices were asian horror. I feel like they are the only people making decent enough movies to list in the 2000s.

ChronoGrl

10-19-2010, 05:50 AM

The release date. If the worldwide release date is after 01st January 2000, it's in.

Thanks! :)

Disease

10-19-2010, 02:52 PM

Sorry for being a latecomer, can I be in Zeros group? it looks a bit more challenging since my memory is going on me.

_____V_____

10-19-2010, 09:51 PM

Is there a deadline for this?

As of yet, no. It's Halloween season so I think we will be pretty much open till mid-November, at least. Plus the groups need time to come together and collate their choices.

Would it be bad if 80% of my choices were asian horror. I feel like they are the only people making decent enough movies to list in the 2000s.

Nope. Your choices are your own choices, and they all count.

Sorry for being a latecomer, can I be in Zeros group? it looks a bit more challenging since my memory is going on me.

You are already in Zero's group, mate. Welcome aboard!

_____V_____

10-19-2010, 09:54 PM

The groups again, for the benefit of newcomers -

Newb's Group

AmericanManiac
Bastet
Bwind22
Cheebacheeba
Crabapple
Deadklown
Despare
DPMcCoy
Elvis Christ
Endo
Ferox13
Fiend Skull
Fortunato
FreddyMyers
Friday13thFan
Fuglystick
Geddy
Hammerfan
Horror4ever
Kemal
MissMacabre
Neverending
Novakru
PhantomStranger
Posher778
Psycho d
Psycom5K
Roshiq
Scarebaby
Shanks
Straker
The Mothman
Ugly Duchess
Urgeok
Weapon X
Zwoti

Zero's Group

Alkytrio666
Amicus Horror
Angra
Austin316426808
Bloody Ribcut
Cactus
Caenxavier
Dante's Inferno
Disease
Doc Faustus
Dude Guadalupe
Ferretchucker
The Flayed One
Freak
Gorephobia
Hacelikewhoa
Hellfire1
Illdojo
Jenna26
ManchestrMorgue
Massacre man
Milktoaste
Murderdoll
Nicklord1
Nightmare of death
Rayne
The Return
Ripley666 (aka...)
Roderick Usher
Scouse mac
Siorai
Sistinas666
Spookhouse
Wicked Lady
TheWickerfan
Wufongtan

_____V_____

10-23-2010, 09:10 AM

Been following both threads closely, and I must say fantastic work done so far by all of you, folks.

Hats off to the efforts by each and every one of you, despite this being Halloween season and I can imagine how busy you all might be in your lives right now.

Keep up the awesome work you all are doing, and I hope to see more and more people chip in as we go on.

Right now, keeping the festive season in mind, I am thinking mid-November for the deadline for deliberations. (that will give those who are ultra-busy with Halloween stuff 15 more days after October to chip in with their choices and views)

Good luck. Let the deliberations continue.

roshiq

01-19-2011, 06:51 AM

TheWickerFan

01-19-2011, 07:09 AM

Where's V? Hope everything is going fine with him & he'll be back soon here. Really looking forward to see what turn out HDC's ultimate 200 for 00-09!

Anyway, while working with the lists I've just finished my personal compilation of 100 films of the decade (http://www.imdb.com/list/H24FdrZIrjY/).:)

I love your list.:)

I thought __V__ said he was in the process of moving into a new house. It might take a while to get internet service up and running.

TheWickerFan

01-26-2011, 01:23 AM

I am not so sure what this thread is really about but I really want to share this link I got from my sister.

???:confused::confused::confused:???

I'm really getting worried about __V__ now. Does anyone have an update?

TheWickerFan

02-03-2011, 06:13 AM

I guess this has died. I really wanted that list.:(

_____V_____

04-25-2011, 07:37 AM

No, my dear. Collating all entries from both Newb's and Zero's threads right now.

Expect the sticky up within the next few days!

*watches WickerFan jump out of her chair and whoop in joy* :D

Errrr... :o

TheWickerFan

04-25-2011, 07:43 AM

_____V_____

04-26-2011, 08:31 AM

Wonderful! I can hardly wait.:D

First 100 up. Second 100 (+50) tomorrow. :)

hammerfan

04-26-2011, 08:45 AM

Excellent job, V!

neverending

04-26-2011, 09:52 AM

Generally great job- I only count 13 pieces of crap in the list so far.

_____V_____

04-26-2011, 08:54 PM

Generally great job- I only count 13 pieces of crap in the list so far.

Woohoo! That means no less than 87 new films meet NE's approval. Well done, gang. :D

roshiq

04-27-2011, 02:36 AM

Woohoo! That means no less than 87 new films meet NE's approval. Well done, gang. :D

Yup...great achievement, indeed.:)

_____V_____

04-27-2011, 03:50 AM

Second set of 100 posted.

Thread is stickied and open, folks. :)

neverending

04-27-2011, 05:40 AM

I watched the last film in your Honorable Mentions just a few days ago.

I WAS disappointed.

_____V_____

04-27-2011, 06:25 AM

Its a wonderful little film IMO. I am sure all those who chose it in their recs in Newb's team and finalised it, liked it too.

Well, I trust someone from Newb's group will have to reply to that.

roshiq

04-27-2011, 07:07 AM

Now I demand NE's complete list of "Pieces of Crap"!:D

roshiq

04-27-2011, 07:35 AM

Still haven't seen this 20 out of total 250:o:
Acacia
Aragami
Battlefield Baseball
Blood Feast 2: All You Can Eat
Club dread
Evil Aliens
Little Otik
Open Water
Psycho Beach Party
The Happiness of the Katakuris
The Ninth Gate
Vidocq (aka) Dark Portals: The Chronicles of Vidocq
Wild Zero
Save the Green Planet (2003)
Sars Wars (2004)
Incident At Loch Ness (2004)
Izo (2004)
Plaga Zombie: Mutant Zone (2001)
R.S.V.P. (2002)
Rahtree: Flower of the Night (2003)

Sad to see that they couldn’t make in the Tops::(
Alone (aka) Faet (2007)
Cold Prey 2 (aka) Fritt Vilt 2 (2008)
Hard Candy (2005)
Noroi: The Curse (2005)
Orphan (2009)
Perfume: The Story of a Murderer (2006)
Right at your Door (2006)
Silk (2006)
Splinter (2008)
Strange Circus (2005)
The Red Shoes (2005)

Didn’t like that much:
30 days of Night
Carriers
Diary of the Dead
Doomsday
Jeepers Creepers
Laid to Rest
My Name is Bruce
The Signal
Versus
White Noise

But overall another superb compilation for HDC. Great job done.

TheWickerFan

04-27-2011, 07:42 AM

I'd highly recommend Open Water, The Ninth Gate, and Incident At Loch Ness out of that list of films you haven't seen yet.

neverending

04-27-2011, 08:05 AM

Overall, yes, a fine list.

But IMO, some real flubs on there, that will cause some to doubt the verasity of the premise.

We'll gloss over the fact that somehow Rob Zombie's Halloween got on there, and go straight to- Halloween TWO?? Give me a break!

neverending

04-27-2011, 08:07 AM

Are you trying to get me killed?

_____V_____

04-27-2011, 08:14 AM

Again, a call for Newb's team members. :D

Roshiq, Wicker, care to answer NE's two queries so far?

TheWickerFan

04-27-2011, 08:22 AM

Again, a call for Newb's team members. :D

Roshiq, Wicker, care to answer NE's two queries so far?

I did not vote for Halloween 2 or Zombies Of Mass Destruction.

roshiq

04-27-2011, 10:24 AM

The thing is when the voting started I think some/most of the voters didn't get much of options to "chose the best/better film" as most likely many of us here haven't seen most of those modern films that we nominated and we tried our best to give every little good film a fair chance. So it's my guess that some voted those few films (whether good, bad or crap) that they got chance/managed to see.
Now as far Rob Zombie's Halloween 1, 2 or both goes, I think it's overall got a mixed feelings from the viewers/fans. Original Halloween is so iconic that some fan just can't able to hate anything that got something to do with Michael Myers whether that's a bad or mediocre sequel or a remake coming after so many years. Personally I even didn't hated that much Zombie's Halloween & the sequel. As Rob Zombie films, both were fairly watchable & enjoyable, IMO. Although it was daring but I liked the idea (whatever good or bad) Mr. Zombie tried to put & play with Michael Myers legacy as a director in his own terms or point of views. But personally I didn't want Halloween 2 to make in the final/top list but I knew it'd do eventually as it was getting favorable votes from the voters here.
Whether big or low budget or indie effort, now a days there are plenty of new horror films are coming out every year but good or quality films doesn't come so frequently or fans somehow missed them to watch for their limited or late wide scale release. But fans always want or eager to see or waiting for good films and then when they got something bit unusual or a mediocre one in the middle of plenty of bad releases or after a long absent period of desired quality horror film then I think sometimes some of us overwhelmingly 'welcome' or tag them as a good one.

ZMD is a mediocre zombedy, IMO.

I'd highly recommend Open Water, The Ninth Gate, and Incident At Loch Ness out of that list of films you haven't seen yet.

Thanks for the recs, Wikcy:) I think I got the Open Water & Ninth Gate in some of my 6 in 1 DVD collections...hope to see them both soon. And as far Loch Ness film goes, I think I need to download it from a torrent site soon or later.

roshiq

04-27-2011, 10:34 AM

Are you trying to get me killed?

Oh come on, man who will dare to even think of that? V & I will try our best to give you some 'support';) Mainly, it'll be fun and I'm really want to know about them too...what are those films that NE thinks just as 'pieces of crap'?!?

hammerfan

04-27-2011, 10:50 AM

Oh come on, man who will dare to even think of that? V & I will try our best to give you some 'support';) Mainly, it'll be fun and I'm really want to know about them too...what are those films that NE thinks just as 'pieces of crap'?!?

I have to admit, I'm also curious.

TheWickerFan

04-27-2011, 10:56 AM

I have to admit, I'm also curious.

Me too, but I can't say I blame him for being reluctant. A lot of people take it personally when you rip a film they like to shreds.

hammerfan

04-27-2011, 11:11 AM

Me too, but I can't say I blame him for being reluctant. A lot of people take it personally when you rip a film they like to shreds.

Unfortunately, very true. I never understood why people demand that everyone agree with them about their likes and dislikes. IMO, if everyone liked the same things - or disliked the same things - the world would be an extremely boring place to live.

neverending

04-27-2011, 11:17 AM

TheWickerFan

04-27-2011, 11:39 AM

I'm sure I put some of those on my list, but I can't come up with a good argument in their defense.:o

I voted for films I watched and didn't hate, but some of them are kind of cheesy.

neverending

04-27-2011, 11:53 AM

I voted for films I watched and didn't hate, but some of them are kind of cheesy.

Now see- there's a problem with the methodology. If the purpose of the list is to introduce people to the best horror films of this millennium, to counteract all the cries of "modern horror films suck," then there has to be a stronger criterion than "I didn't hate it." Otherwise, people are going to watch the films, and say, "meh- those were boring" or sucked or whatever. And then they dismiss the list out of hand and their original opinion remains unchanged.

TheWickerFan

04-27-2011, 12:38 PM

Now see- there's a problem with the methodology. If the purpose of the list is to introduce people to the best horror films of this millennium, to counteract all the cries of "modern horror films suck," then there has to be a stronger criterion than "I didn't hate it." Otherwise, people are going to watch the films, and say, "meh- those were boring" or sucked or whatever. And then they dismiss the list out of hand and their original opinion remains unchanged.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I had to pick films that I had seen (which narrowed the field somewhat). I didn't think I could just guess whether they were good judging from what other people said.

250 is a lot (for any decade, not just the 2000s).

roshiq

04-27-2011, 12:45 PM

Pieces of crap was probably too strong of a term, so I'll just say IMO none of the following films deserve to be on any list that begins with the word "best" or "top."

2001 Maniacs (2005)
Bug (2006)
Freddy vs. Jason (2003)
Friday the 13th (2009)
Halloween (2007)
Halloween II (2009)
Jason X (2001)
Jeepers Creepers (2001)
Jeepers Creepers 2 (2003)
Saw II (2005)
Saw III (2006)
The Midnight Meat Train (2008)
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (2003)
Thir13en Ghosts (2001)
Alien vs. Predator (2004)
Cube 2 : Hypercube (2002)
Zombies of Mass Destruction (2009)

That's a good list NE, regarding your particular point. I don't disagree except for Freddy Vs Jason (come on...it's great fun! Loved to see both the legend sharing the same screen) and the film that brought me here & drag me into the genre...TCM remake! I always has a soft corner for it. :)

And as an addition, if Cabin Fever is on the list, I think Cabin Fever 2 should be as well- it's better than the first film.

I don't want to argue further but I disagree on this note.

roshiq

04-27-2011, 12:49 PM

people are going to watch the films, and say, "meh- those were boring" or sucked or whatever. And then they dismiss the list out of hand and their original opinion remains unchanged.

IMO: Actually that works for any good or bad list. There's no list of films that I think can 100% satisfy every movie viewers cause of different tastes & point of views.

TheWickerFan

04-27-2011, 12:52 PM

Yeah, it might have worked better in a tournament-like format. It would have taken a lot longer though.

roshiq

04-27-2011, 12:58 PM

Yeah, it might have worked better in a tournament-like format. It would have taken a lot longer though.

I don't think so...the end result would be the same unless the nominees being limited/voters options being restricted.

TheWickerFan

04-27-2011, 01:04 PM

I don't think so...the end result would be the same unless the nominees being limited/voters options being restricted.

I guess you're right. I could almost see myself doing that though.

"Halloween 2? Blair Witch 2? Hell no.Not even going to bring them up as a possibility.":D

neverending

04-27-2011, 01:08 PM

I agree with Wicker that 250 is a lot. A list of 100 would be stronger, IMO.

newb

04-27-2011, 04:49 PM

I agree with Wicker that 250 is a lot. A list of 100 would be stronger, IMO.

yeah....could definitely cut a few of them

_____V_____

04-27-2011, 08:38 PM

I agree with Wicker that 250 is a lot. A list of 100 would be stronger, IMO.

That would defeat the whole purpose of this project, which started out with the sole aim to give the grieving fans TWICE as many reasons as any other Top 100 compilation that modern horror of the 00s hasn't gone down, or as they like to say "modern horror sux".

And you listed 17 films, out of 250, which is a very acceptable percentage. (233 films are good enough?! Weehaw!) I am willing to accept it. There will always be a horror fan out there who might like those 17 too. I am sure all involved will agree with me on this one.

And of course the compilation is open to debate and improvement (that's what makes it flexible). I am sure with time and constant inputs from everyone, some of the weaker entries will get weeded out and replaced with stronger recs. That would make it a more complete list.

Fearonsarms

04-28-2011, 05:31 AM

Ok I'm gonna play devil's advocate and risk a flaming. I have truly adored all the lists on here-except this one. I 100% agree with neverending. I think the people that voted for shitty remakes should be ashamed of themselves. Congratulations you have undermined the crdibility of this list-people will see them on this list and conclude that "modern horror does indeed suck" thereby backfiring the original intentions of this. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but people will see remakes on this list and think that bona fide modern classics like "Dagon", "Session 9", "Shutter" etc are in the same league! I understand that a lot of work has gone into this list sadly it all seems for nothing.

Fearonsarms

04-28-2011, 05:55 AM

_____V_____

04-28-2011, 06:17 AM

There are fans who liked some of the remakes - RZ's Halloween & TCM, and some of the Hollywood remakes of Asian films are the reason why Asian horror became popular in the first place.

Saw II is also a member of the HDC Top 100, so I don't understand the hate for it either.

A double edged sword. But I am open to suggestions.

Also willing to do some editing of the 250, provided I am permitted to do so by the team members who sat down and hammered out the compilation between themselves.

TheWickerFan

04-28-2011, 06:29 AM

Weed out all the remakes for a start-no best of the decade is going to have any credibility with them in there-they prove rather than disprove that "modern horro sucks" never mind replacing them-that could be in the long term.

On another note I actually liked Saw 2 but I understand the hatred towards it.

As much as I have been griping about remakes, I have to disagree about eliminating all the remakes on the list. I know most, if not all, of the remakes are inferior to the original, but some of them are quite good in their own right.

Also, I would not like to see The Ring, a film that introduced a mainstream audience to J-Horror, eliminated.

_____V_____

04-28-2011, 08:04 AM

Got the green light from some of the jury members. Waiting on some more before I roll out the editing process.

newb

04-28-2011, 08:05 AM

Hey....I only compiled the list .......don't blame moi ;)

Let the cutting begin

_____V_____

04-28-2011, 10:10 AM

Thumbs up from everyone I contacted, and so the compilation stands slightly modified from the original one posted yesterday.

This should be a solid list, and should stand the test of time for awhile.

_____V_____

04-28-2011, 10:10 AM

Let the cutting begin

And so it's done.

Please go through the Sticky again.

roshiq

04-28-2011, 10:33 AM

Very clinical editing, bro! Now it looks a new one...really fresh & fantastic!

Wow! There are again some more films that I need to search down soon & watch:
Sauna
Love Object
Malefique
The Hole
Call of Cthulhu
Black Water

Glad you add the followings:
Next Door
Calvaire (aka) The Ordeal
In My Skin
Orphan
Perfume: The Story of a Murderer
The Loved Ones
Trouble Every Day
Lunacy

And also again:D...bit surprised by this entries:
Case 39
A Perfect Getaway
Hunger
Wind Chill

TCM remake has been removed from the "Official HDC Top 200 Of The 2000s"...A sad day for me. :(

Btw, have anyone seen The Uncertain Guest (2004)? Just downloaded it last night as it was directed by the same guy who directed Julia's Eyes. Hope to see it soon.

_____V_____

04-29-2011, 04:49 AM

Final changes all complete. The Stickied 200 (+ 50) is good and ready to serve.

Big thanks to all the last-minute contributors I PMed in the past couple days and got plenty of prompt replies and recs back from them almost immediately.

Fearonsarms

04-29-2011, 09:11 AM

As much as I have been griping about remakes, I have to disagree about eliminating all the remakes on the list. I know most, if not all, of the remakes are inferior to the original, but some of them are quite good in their own right.

Also, I would not like to see The Ring, a film that introduced a mainstream audience to J-Horror, eliminated.

We will have to agree to disagree on this. Believe it or not I did somehow sit through some of those remakes and I personally did not think as standalone films they were any good anyway. Hills Have Eyes for example was turned into a standard action flick with none of the mania that characterised the original.

Don't get me started on the pinnacle of ultimate evil that is The Ring. I think it did the opposite of what you suggested and actually turned people against japanese horror originals. I've lost count of how many times I showed people the original Ringu which they dismissed as being inferior as "its not as graphic or exciting as the hollywood remake" they claimed. The same can be said for The Grudge etc. No one I know who likes the remakes more than the japanese originals has got into japanese horror. If a film has subtitles or is considered "slow" it will never be accepted by mainstream audiences who demand that films are dumbed down so they don't have to use their brains while watching a film.

TheWickerFan

04-29-2011, 12:05 PM

I don't understand that at all. People I've known who saw the remake first and saw the original afterwards either loved both or preferred the original.

Fearonsarms

05-01-2011, 11:13 PM

I'm basing it on people I know so I guess it could be just people in the UK who have that opinion. It's sad really but not as sad as the people who think the remakes are the original films...

_____V_____

06-09-2011, 04:48 AM

Finally proofread the entire 250, removed some sequel/remake entries and the more-popular-yet-not-good-enough-to-recommend ones, and added a whole lot of good-sounding-but-rarely-viewed recommendations which had been sent through PMs to me throughout the past month and half, plus some which I thought should be a part of the Sticky but were glaringly omitted/forgotten.

Please go through the Sticky again -

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57683

I think this should stand the test of time for awhile.

Many thanks to everyone who PMed me their choices, and specially the ones who posted them in the "HDC Recommends..." thread in the Modern Horror section.

I hope most of you agree with the majority of the recs.