The next HDC Top 100 - I need YOUR help!

[_____V_____]

We have hammed and hawed through numerous subjects to make our next top 100 compilation, but somehow none of those discussed could exactly fit the bill. I went back to 2006 and rummaged through my mentor Flayed's threads and my old threads, and saw that we have left out one group of individuals who really, REALLY deserve to be recognised in their own Top 100.

Because folks, we are all lovers of horror. And for every horror movie to be a horror movie, he/she is an essential and integral part.

To make things a bit more clear - "It's time to give the Devil his due."

Yes, I am talking about all the fantastic villains who have graced the horror silver-screen from ages and generations. Right from the times of Lon Chaney Sr's Phantom and Graf Orlok, to the modern-day Jigsaw, the villains in horror movie history have evolved continously through the decades. Some really menacing, unstoppable, relentless, brutal, savage, merciless...think of every known evil adjective for them and you will immediately have a horror movie villain fitting that bill in your thoughts. Mainstream, cult, creature, monster, slasher, killer, psychopaths...all of them dominating the horror films with their larger-than-screen presence.

I ask for your help. It's been a long time since we made our last one so let's make this project the most memorable of the lot.

Put your thinking caps on, and your mind back to all the wonderful and awesome villains you have seen in horror movies in all the years you have watched them, and send me your top 20 horror movie villains. You may rank them if you like, or you may send in an no-ranked list, either way your opinions will count in the final compilation.

PMs are welcome, but with the BR not done yet, I would prefer if you sent it to my email at [email protected]. A simultaneous prodding post to this thread confirming the same would be of help.

Keeping the tradition of Top 100's intact, the deadline is spread right into the next month. You all have till the last week of July.

Let's do this. :)

[neverending]

Great idea.

[_____V_____]

Knew you would like it. :)

One more thing, folks - judge them by their performances and their on-screen presence too, and not only by their popularity among the masses alone.

Try to be slightly impartial, if you can.

Take your time over it. Don't rush your decisions AND your emails to me.

[roshiq]

hehe...you may have know that I have already trying to compile a list of my personal Hundred Horror movies. So I think it will be "easy" for me to make a list of horror movie villains out of them...but to narrow them into only 20 is going to be bit challenging.

Anyway, kudos to V for again coming with an awesome project idea. Hope you can get my e-mail very soon. :)

[Elvis_Christ]

Decisions, decisions.

Great idea V this one will take some thinking about!

[roshiq]

I have already sent my list of Top 20 Horror Movie Villains, please check your e-mail...:)

[TheWickerFan]

I'll be sending my list in shortly.

[TheWickerFan]

My computer won't let me e-mail you so here's my list in no particular order:

Norman Bates (Psycho)
Hannibal Lecter (Silence Of The Lambs)
Dr. Szell (Marathon Man)
Alien (Alien)
Jack Torrance (The Shining)
Bruno Antony (Strangers On A Train)
Harry Powell (Night Of The Hunter)
Freddy Krueger (Nightmare On Elm Street)
Mrs. Danvers (Rebecca)
Asami Yamazaki (Audition)
Annie Wilkes (Misery)
The Tall Man (Phantasm)
Raymond Lemorne (The Vanishing)
Baby Jane Hudson (What Ever Happened To Baby Jane)
Rhoda Penmark (The Bad Seed)
Jigsaw (Saw)
The Duke (Salo The 120 Days Of Sodom)
Predator (Predator)
John Doe (Seven)
Michel Delassalle (Diabolique)

[_____V_____]

Thanks for your list, WickerFan. If you think of some more as your Honorable Mentions, feel free to send me a PM. You can even edit your Top 20 list within the deadline given. No worries.

I have already sent my list of Top 20 Horror Movie Villains, please check your e-mail...

Yes I got it Rosh. Thanks. :)

Great idea V this one will take some thinking about!

Thanks, mate! I know you will be sending in some pretty obscure ones in your list.


3 entries in already. I expect PLENTY more from anyone and everyone reading this thread.

Remember folks, my PM box and my email will wait eagerly for your contribution.

[nightmare_of _death]

Great idea V I'll be working on a list!

[newb]

does it have to be strictly "horror" movies ?


one of the best villains ever to grace the silver screen is in a western.

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[_____V_____]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/henry-fonda.jpg

He would indeed be one of my top choices too.

But yes, strictly horror films. The Official HDC Top 100 Horror Movie Villains Of All Time.

[missmacabre]

I'll get right on it. Might not get 20 but I'll throw in some ideas.

[_____V_____]

Sure thing.

You might be surprised when you sit down to type them out though. I have a feeling you will go past 20.

I need more. The more, the merrier. Right now I have 5 lists and about 140-odd names. Let's see the total stack up to at least 400 before I start the sorting for common names and high ranks.

[scouse mac]

My thinking cap is on, I'll be sending in a list after due consideration.

[missmacabre]

Sent mine. I did narrow it down to 20, kinda. 23 or 24 if you count a few of them individually rather than grouped together.

[FreddyMyers]

Gonna take my time and compile an obscure list. How will the final order be determined. Are you gonna take an average of the lists or something.

[Ferox13]

Working on it now...

[fortunato]

...........................

[ChronoGrl]

Crap - What's the "official" name of the Grudge ghost? My Google skills are failing me... If I just say "Grudge ghost" in my list, you'll know what I mean...

[Elvis_Christ]

Crap - What's the "official" name of the Grudge ghost? My Google skills are failing me... If I just say "Grudge ghost" in my list, you'll know what I mean...

Kayako........

[_____V_____]

Gonna take my time and compile an obscure list. How will the final order be determined. Are you gonna take an average of the lists or something.

Well, for all ranked lists it would be by the system Flayed used for compiling the first Official HDC Top 100 - Your #1 ranked villain will get 5 points, #2 gets 4, #3 gets 3, #4 gets 2 and #5 gets 1 point. The villain with the highest points will lead the pack, then second highest...you get the gist.
If there is a tie in points, then the number of lists he/she figures in. If that's a tie too, then the ranks he/she holds in various lists.
And if we don't have 100 villains with at least 1 point, then I go through the remainder of the top listed ones and find the highest ranked ones in each of them.

For unranked and no-order lists, I am in the process of asking the sender to mention their Top 5 at least. Will make my job easier.

[_____V_____]

8 lists in already. 195 names in total, in all of them.

Very impressive. I like how you all are taking some time and coming up with really unique Top 5s (at least), instead of the common 80s slashers we all know as popular icons. :)

[bwind22]

Great idea V! My list is in.

[The Flayed One]

I love the nostalgia. My list will be in sometime soon.

[_____V_____]

Well, well...howdy stranger. How's Amazon treating you post-promotion? :)

Good to see you back around. Eagerly waiting for your list.

[ChronoGrl]

Kayako........

Thanks!! :)

[The_Return]

Awesome, awesome idea. My list will take some work, but you will have it ASAP.

[fortunato]

Should have mine either tonight or tomorrow.

[Elvis_Christ]

I'll be in by the due date taking some time to think it out.

[Weapon X]

Just sent mine.

[Ferox13]

Just one question:

If the villian is a number of different films, played by different actors across decades - do we just mention the Villian or the Villian and actor or the Villian and film.


Would I list FU MANCHU (which could mean a number of actors)or FU MANCHU in The Mask of Fu Manchu (which would mean Karloff's interpretation).

Its just feels a bit weird putting down just DRACULA (for example).

[Horror4ever]

I have sent a list via PM, pls confirm me whether you got it or not.

[_____V_____]

Yes I got it, Horror4ever. As well as WeaponX's list.

Thanks to the following too - Krylon, Toni (what is your ScreenName in here?), Bwind, MissM & especially TheWickerFan for the continuous inputs.

If the villian is a number of different films, played by different actors across decades - do we just mention the Villian or the Villian and actor or the Villian and film.

Very valid point, and something which I am thinking about long and hard at the moment.

If we take Dracula in general, it would be a wide variety of portrayals from Lugosi to Lee to Oldman - and all of them played a different Dracula in each of their representations.

If we take a particular representation of a common character - say 5 different actors for Dracula - the list might become too monotonous, like say 5 different Draculas, 3 Frankenstein's Monsters, 3 Wolfmen, etc...you get my drift.

I am thinking of one single common villain character for 2 reasons -

1 - If that particular villain character has more than 1 brilliant portrayal behind him/her, it would have it's own particular section with 4-5 different sub-sections. For example Dracula could have Lugosi's, Lee's, Oldman's...listed under it. This would give us ample space to highlight the character AND have plenty of room for blurbs et al for the different portrayals of the same character.

2 - Accumulating them under a single roof will leave a bit more room to pull in some other deserving and underrated villainous characters who otherwise would get ejected out. The list would have a bit more variety and look a bit more refreshing, plus it would be a good way to give a nod to those who usually get overlooked for their more popular and mainstream counterparts.


You can go ahead and send me either a general list, or a specific list of your choices. Either way, the particular villainous character will have it's own space in the 100 for sure - either big or small.


I am open to suggestions for this though. Feel free to put forth your opinions too.

[Ferox13]

Cheers thanks...

You mention Monster/Creature would it be better to keep this to humanoid type monsters like the cenobites/Nosferatu etc rather than include things like Cthulhu/Godzilla/Cujo..

Just a suggestion.

[TheWickerFan]

Thanks to the following too - Krylon, Toni (what is your ScreenName in here?), Bwind, MissM & especially TheWickerFan for the continuous inputs.


You're welcome:). This is the first time I got to participate in the voting process on one of these countdowns, and it was a lot of fun. I hope there will be more in the future.

Lists: they're-like-my thing.:cool:

[_____V_____]

Cheers thanks...

You mention Monster/Creature would it be better to keep this to humanoid type monsters like the cenobites/Nosferatu etc rather than include things like Cthulhu/Godzilla/Cujo..

Just a suggestion.

Cthulhu - don't think we have had a kickass brilliant adaptation of it in the movies yet.

Godzilla - strong contender.

Cujo - Haven't seen it in any of the 12 lists submitted.


The only giant monster staking a claim here would be Godzilla. The rest would be humanoid monsters/creatures like the Gill-Man, Wolf Man, Alien, etc.

Villains are more driven by performances. People will submit those whose evilness filled their screens and their minds, rather than suits or CGI without expressions. We are pretty safe there.

[Ferox13]

Cthulhu - don't think we have had a kickass brilliant adaptation of it in the movies yet.

Villains are more driven by performances. People will submit those whose evilness filled their screens and their minds, rather than suits or CGI without expressions. We are pretty safe there.

Thats what I was thinking....

The HPLS Call of Cthulhu was pretty brillent,imo...

[_____V_____]

True, but not great enough to better any actor's evil portrayal of a memorable villain.

[roshiq]

True, but not great enough to better any actor's evil portrayal of a memorable villain.

Ditto. It'd better if we can avoid the creatures in this listing process, IMO.

[nightmare_of _death]

Sent mine in last night

[_____V_____]

Sent mine in last night

Yes I have received it. That takes the total tally to 14 lists so far.

I am loving the variety of choices listed in the entries. Good to see everyone thinking hard and putting their best choices in their lists, more importantly in the top 5 of their chosen 20.

(which will help me immensely when a particular villain like Dracula might get his own section)

And you will never guess who has the most points and is leading the pack of the most vile men/women in horror right now!

It's none of the usual popular ones you are thinking of. :cool:


I need more. Plenty more. Keep thinking and send me those lists!

[_____V_____]

Well, I have started work on the compilation since last night by merging all the 14 lists together and bracketing the common ones out.

This is the whole list of Horror Villains so far, which 14 of you have sent to me -


(WARNING: If you haven't submitted your entry yet, the following tentative list SHOULD NOT influence your final decisions!)


Alien
All Mutants in “The Hills Have Eyes” 1 & 2
Angela Baker
Annie Wilkes
Asami
Ash (Alien)
Baby Jane Hudson
Baron Gregor de Bergmann [The Black Room (1935)]
Billy (Black Christmas)
Brett [Eden Lake (2008)]
Bride of Frankenstein( Bride of Frankenstein)
Brundle-Fly
Bruno Antony (Strangers On A Train)
Buffalo Bill (Silence Of The Lambs)
Cabman John Gray [The Body Snatcher (1945)]
Candyman
Captain Rhodes (Day of the Dead)
Carole Ledoux (Repulsion)
Carrie White
Charles A. 'Charlie' Tibbs [The Sadist (1963)]
Chop Top
Christine
Chucky
Coffin Joe
Col. Ives/Colqhoun (“Ravenous”)
Count Orlok
Count Dracula (“Nosferatu”)
Count Dracula [Dracula (1931)]
Dracula
Crocodiles (“Lake Placid”)
Damien Thorn
Dargent Peytraud (The Serpent And The Rainbow)
Darryl Revok
Dr Henry Jekyll (“Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde” March version)
Dr. Caligari [The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)]
Dr. Channard (Hellraiser II)
Dr. Gogol (Mad Love)
Dr. Henryk Savaard [The Man They Could not Hang (1939)]
Dr. Jack Griffin [The Invisible Man (1933)]
Dr. Anton Phibes
Dr. Septimus Pretorious [Bride of Frankenstein]
Edward Lionheart (Theatre of Blood)
Eli (Let the right one in)
Erik the Phantom
Frankenstein's Monster
Freddy Krueger
Ghostface
Godzilla
Hannibal Lecter
Harry Powell
Helena Markos (Suspiria)
Henry (Henry Portrait Of A Serial Killer)
Hjalmar Poelzig
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Imhotep [The Mummy (1932)]
Jack Torrance
Jason Voorhees
Jaws shark (Jaws)
Jerry Blake [The Stepfather (1987)]
Jigsaw
John Doe (Seven)
John Harrington [Hatchet for the Honeymoon (1970)]
John Ryder (The Hitcher)
King Kong
Kothoga (The Relic)
Krug Stillo [The Last House on the Left (1972)]
Junior, Weasel and Sadie from Last House on the Left
La Femme (Inside)
Leatherface
Leprechaun
Linda Deadite
Lord Summerisle (The Wicker Man)
Marie (Haute Tension)
Mark Lewis [Peeping Tom (1960)]
Matt Cordell (Maniac Cop)
Matthew Hopkins [Witchfinder General (1968)]
Max Cady [Cape Fear]
May Dove Canady in “May”
Mephisto [Faust (1926)]
Michael Myers
Michel Delassalle (Diabolique)
Mick Taylor (Wolf Creek)
Mrs. Baylock (The Omen)
Mrs. Carmody [The Mist (2007)]
Mrs. Danvers (Rebecca)
Mrs. Gunesh (Drag me to Hell)
'Murder' Legendre
Norman Bates
Pamela Voorhees
Pennywise
Peter Neal (Tenebre)
Pinhead
Predator
Prince Prospero [The Masque of the Red Death (1964)]
Prof. Henry Jarrod [House of Wax (1953)]
Raymond Lemorne (The Vanishing)
Regan MacNeil in “The Exorcist“
Rhoda Penmark (The Bad Seed)
Richard Straker (Salem's Lot)
Richard Vollin [The Raven (1935)]
Room 1408 (1408)
Ruth Chandler [Jack Ketchum's The Girl Next Door (2007)]
Sadako (The Ringu) or Samara(The Ring)
Sam [Trick 'r treat (2008)]
Sir Roderick Femm in “The Old Dark House”
Sutter Cane [In the Mouth of Madness (1994)]
Sweeney Todd (BBC TV movie 2006)
The Castavets (Rosemary's Baby)
The Creeper (Jeepers Creepers)
The Diesel Truck from Duel
The Duke (Salo The 120 Days Of Sodom)
The Hewitt Family [The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)]
The House (The Haunting)
The House (Amityville Horror series)
The Tall Man (Phantasm series)
The Thing
The Wolfman
Paul and Peter (Funny Games)
Virginia [Spider Baby]
Willard (remake)
Zombies from NotLD



Debatable ones - Crocodiles from Lake Placid, the Houses from Haunting & Amityville Horror, the diesel truck from Duel, Room 1408, Christine the car, and the few creature entries (Godzilla, King Kong etc.) which might/might not make it into the final list. What about the zombies and the mutants too?

I am open to suggestions from all of you regarding this matter. Have your say.

[Straker]

I only skimmed through this thread and have been compiling my list but specifically ignoring the like of Jaws, Godzilla et al. I assumed they would fall into a monster category rather than villian. I don't really feel like they fit, personally, but I would rather create a list that follows the system everyone else is using and rework it to include all the horror monsters and such that I have so far been ignoring. I don't mind how it works, but if half the people are adding things like Godzilla and half aren't due to different interpretations then all those monsters are gonna end up annexed to the bottom of the list anyway.

[Ferox13]

Sent...................

[Roderick Usher]

I say delete the monsters, but keep the inanimate objects.

Or maybe we need a top 100 evil inanimate objects list? The African Doll from TRILOGY OF TERROR? The Car from THE CAR, or from THE WRAITH or from MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE...

Shit man, you could probably make a list with just the most nefarious cars, boats, motorcycles and bicycles

[_____V_____]

I only skimmed through this thread and have been compiling my list but specifically ignoring the like of Jaws, Godzilla et al. I assumed they would fall into a monster category rather than villian. I don't really feel like they fit, personally, but I would rather create a list that follows the system everyone else is using and rework it to include all the horror monsters and such that I have so far been ignoring. I don't mind how it works, but if half the people are adding things like Godzilla and half aren't due to different interpretations then all those monsters are gonna end up annexed to the bottom of the list anyway.

Hmm...a point to consider. Godzilla is such an iconic villain because it wipes out an entire city in an instant...I am torn whether to include it or not.

I say delete the monsters, but keep the inanimate objects.

Or maybe we need a top 100 evil inanimate objects list? The African Doll from TRILOGY OF TERROR? The Car from THE CAR, or from THE WRAITH or from MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE...

Shit man, you could probably make a list with just the most nefarious cars, boats, motorcycles and bicycles

RODDDDDDDDDDDD!!!

Nice idea for the next Top 100. :D

[roshiq]

Delete all the non-human villains!:D

[TheWickerFan]

I say delete the monsters, but keep the inanimate objects.

Or maybe we need a top 100 evil inanimate objects list? The African Doll from TRILOGY OF TERROR? The Car from THE CAR, or from THE WRAITH or from MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE...

Shit man, you could probably make a list with just the most nefarious cars, boats, motorcycles and bicycles

Modern Horror Movie Threads:

Top Evil Food
Top Evil Dolls
Top Evil Motor Vehicles
Top Evil Furniture And Appliances

That should be at least 20.:D

[neverending]

I think Godzilla deserves to be on a list of villains.

[Angra]

I think Godzilla deserves to be on a list of villains.


But was Godzilla really a villain?

Wasn't it just and animal being an animal, following its animal insticts? Not really evil intentions.

Just like King Kong.

Hmmm?

[TheWickerFan]

But was Godzilla really a villain?

Wasn't it just and animal being an animal, following its animal insticts? Not really evil intentions.

Just like King Kong.

Hmmm?

I agree; also in most of the Godzilla movies he was the hero.

[_____V_____]

But was Godzilla really a villain?

Wasn't it just and animal being an animal, following its animal insticts? Not really evil intentions.

Just like King Kong.

Hmmm?

Following their instincts can be said about most known villains in movie history. Leatherface, Michael Myers, the Alien, the Jaws shark, et al...everyone followed their instincts.

I agree that deliberate villains are many in number, but instinctive villains are also plenty.

Godzilla stakes a pretty strong claim in that department. Especially in the first 2-3 films it was portrayed in.

Don't forget, Pinhead is some sort of a hero in the first Hellraiser film. That doesn't reduce his villainy in the Hellraiser series.

[TheWickerFan]

Following their instincts can be said about most known villains in movie history. Leatherface, Michael Myers, the Alien, the Jaws shark, et al...everyone followed their instincts.

I agree that deliberate villains are many in number, but instinctive villains are also plenty.

Godzilla stakes a pretty strong claim in that department. Especially in the first 2-3 films it was portrayed in.

Don't forget, Pinhead is some sort of a hero in the first Hellraiser film. That doesn't reduce his villainy in the Hellraiser series.

I think Godzilla should be included in the list as should any animal or inanimate object that generates enough votes , but the instinctive monsters don't seem to get under the skin the way the deliberate monsters do.

And just because Pinhead disposed of a villain in the first Hellraiser movie does not in any way make him a hero.

[ferretchucker]

I'd see Godzilla to be more of an antagonist than a villain. He's the key problem in the situation and the overall negative force but I don't see him as a villain as such. It's odd, because you can't really say it's because he doesn't see what he's doing as wrong because some of the best villains do what they do with what they see as the best intentions. Even so, I just think there's SOMETHING missing. Can't put my finger on it.

[scouse mac]

Sent mine in


1: Dracula (Christopher Lee)
2: Alien
3: The Thing
4: Baron Frankenstein (Peter Cushing)
5: Predator

Ash (alien)
Dr Phibes
Frankensteins Monster
Candyman
Norman Bates
Freddy Kreuger
Mrs Carmody (the mist)
Tall Man
Wolf Man
Pazuzu/Regan MacNeil
Prince Prospero (masque of the red death)
Damien Thorn
Frank Zito (maniac)
Michael Myers
Lord Summerisle (wickerman)

[_____V_____]

Received. Thanks, Scouse.


These are the most popular horror villains so far (appearing in 5 or more lists) :-

The Alien
Asami
Count Dracula
Freddy Krueger
Dr Hannibal Lecter
Jack Torrance
Leatherface
Michael Myers
Norman Bates
Pennywise
Pinhead
The Thing


In addition, there are plenty who stand on the borderline of popularity - which means they figure in 3-4 lists.

But being popular doesn't necessarily mean they are leading in the Points table. That's an entirely different cup of tea. ;)

[Ferox13]

Prince Prospero (masque of the red death)


Good Call - I didn't want to fill my list with Vincient Price characters as he did so many great ones so I narrowed it down to Edward Lionheart..

[roshiq]

Good Call - I didn't want to fill my list with Vincient Price characters as he did so many great ones so I narrowed it down to Edward Lionheart..

I think I have listed all the major vintage villain roles of Mr. Price in my top 20. Besides Prospero & Lionheart, Mathew Hopkins is another brilliant role that I like to see in the final list here.

Btw, V...I've forget to add the following 'character' in my list of special recommendations:

Tingler [The Tingler (1959)]:)

[urdevil]

Great idea first of all. If anyone has any comments questions etc. let me know
Here goes:

(no particular order)

Captain Howdy(The Exorcist)
Count Orlach(Nosferatu)
Hans Beckett(M)
Harry Lime(The Third Man)
Hannibal Lector(The Silence of the Lambs)
Norman Bates(Psycho)
Billy(Black Christmas)original
Baby Jane Hudson(Whatever happened to Baby Jane?)
Annie Wilkes(Misery)
John Doe(Seven)
Mike Meyers(Halloween)original
Harry Roat(Wait Until Dark)
Annabelle Loren(The House on Haunted Hill)original
Alex(A Clockwork Orange)
Alex Forrest(Fatal Attraction)
The Women-Beatrice Dalle(Inside)yikes
Mary Tilford(The Childrens Hour)
Tony Wendice(Dial M for Murdrer)
Mark Lewis(Peeping Tom)
Leatherface(Texas Chainsaw Massacre)

[scouse mac]

Good Call - I didn't want to fill my list with Vincient Price characters as he did so many great ones so I narrowed it down to Edward Lionheart..


Thanks, there were a couple vying for a place but decided to keep it to what I consider to be his most memorable. It was a tricky process.

[_____V_____]

Big thanks to urdevil for chipping in with a nice list as well. And thanks to Jenna for that fantastic compilation sent to me via email.

The list is growing, folks. Already we have over 245 entries and 68 villains in the Points table so far.

Keep them coming till the end of July. Then we start the final countdown.

[Weapon X]

I vote in favor of Godzilla to make the cut. How's the list coming along?

[Doc Faustus]

Godzilla is a force of concentrated malice. As is Michael Myers. If Michael Myers is a villain, Godzilla is a villain. But, as a force of concentrated Satanic misanthropy, I'd say King Ghidorah is a better giant monster example.

[_____V_____]

Thanks for your list, Doc.

21 individual lists so far, and a umm...small list from Angra. As you all know, the time ends in the last week of July so those of you who asked for some time to compile your lists, send them soon.

I hope to have the compilation up by the first week of August, so if you have a favorite villain in mind to write a blurb about, feel free to book him/her.

[ChronoGrl]

Ok, wait, so Monsters DO count? I'm with Straker - I was purposefully avoiding Godzilla, Jaws, Alien because I consider them "Monsters" rather than "Villains" (interesting point that Doc brought up because I just had the Monster/Villain argument with my boyfriend re Mike Meyers - He says he's a Monster. I'm inclined to agree intellectually, but at the same time I think he's a Villain).

[_____V_____]

Yes they do. Most monsters are villains, although all villains are not necessarily monsters.

[ChronoGrl]

Thanks!

And we must rank these lists, no?


I'm trying to go with "more obscure" to hopefully flesh it out a bit.

[_____V_____]

Yes. If you can rank your Top 5 at least, out of your listed 20, it would be of help. If you choose to send in an unranked one, it would do too.

[ChronoGrl]

And can we give you more than 20?

[_____V_____]

Sure! I would love it. :)

[Doc Faustus]

Ok, wait, so Monsters DO count? I'm with Straker - I was purposefully avoiding Godzilla, Jaws, Alien because I consider them "Monsters" rather than "Villains" (interesting point that Doc brought up because I just had the Monster/Villain argument with my boyfriend re Mike Meyers - He says he's a Monster. I'm inclined to agree intellectually, but at the same time I think he's a Villain).

I wouldn't say that Jaws or an alligator would count, but Michael Myers is valid because he is an incarnation of evil. He works via concentrated hate. And hate is bad. Aliens and alligators and sharks don't hate and don't have apocalyptic/satanic links. If something exists solely to destroy the earth, it is an agent of evil. It's not trying to eat, it wasn't taken out of its natural habitat, it isn't destroying the earth to survive, it's committing an act of malice. Leatherface I wouldn't put on the ist because he's an unwitting dupe. The real brains of the outfit is The Cook. Monsters can be villainous if they are instinctually committing acts you would call evil for reasons beyond survival.

[_____V_____]

Very interesting point, Doc.

Come on people...show me your lists!!! We are into the last 2 weeks of the schedule!

[The Flayed One]

I'll have to say, I had a really hard time with this just because of the criteria I set for myself as what a true villain is to me. My list wasn't even 20 long.

[roshiq]

Fully agree with Doc. Evil intentions & doings that all matter to be a villain, not the natural instincts for survival. Most of the poor creatures were out there in wrong time & wrong place, that's just might made them that bad.

[_____V_____]

Received yours, Flayed. Thanks for the list.

Still waiting for plenty more from all the HDC-ians. Come on people!

[_____V_____]

A big Thanks to Massacre Man for taking some time out and sending in his list.

69 villains shortlisted so far. Hoping to zero in on 31 more from the pending lists which some of you have promised but haven't sent in yet.

That doesn't mean that those who haven't promised and are reading this cannot send me their lists. Come on people! Let me see those lists!


A point to moot - 3 of you listers have sent in Carrie White as a Horror Villain. What is the general consensus on this dubious entry?

[scouse mac]

A point to moot - 3 of you listers have sent in Carrie White as a Horror Villain. What is the general consensus on this dubious entry?


I don't see her as a villain, she's the victim of horrific bullying and a brutal mother. They are the villains IMO, not her.

[_____V_____]

That's how I see it too. Will be interesting to hear Doc's take on Carrie.

Anyone else?

[Doc Faustus]

Carrie's Mother is the villain in this case. A fantastic villain. Add her.

[nightmare_of _death]

i did look back at my list and noticed I added Carrie, I am now wondering why. Cause yes the more I think about it she was a victim not a villain, I also agree her mother was more of a villain.

[Elvis_Christ]

Yo V finished up some work I had so my list will be on it's way to you shortly

[_____V_____]

Cool. Waiting to see your choices, mate. :)

Thanks to Freddy Myers for sending his list in.

We are into the final week of submissions so I expect at least 10 more members to chip in with their choices. Hopefully...

[Elvis_Christ]

PM'd my list!

[_____V_____]

Got it. Fantastic selection, bro. :)


Many thanks to Elvis for sending in his list. Come on people, let me see your lists before the 31st!

[Straker]

I'll have mine done in a day or two, keep putting it off cause I know there's a deadline.... If there's a deadline set I will most likley leave it to the last minuite, but I'm on it. :cool:

[_____V_____]

31st is the day of closing, so keep that in mind. :)

I expect at least 10 more lists by then, no less! Let's see your choices, people!

[Elvis_Christ]

Looking foward to seeing what ends up in this Top 100

[_____V_____]

Just TWO more days till the deadline crosses, folks!

And I need YOUR lists!


Those whom I am expecting that they will submit one, and have yet to submit are -

NEWB (!)
THE RETURN (!)
CHRONOGRL (!)
FORTUNATO (!)
ALKYTRIO666 (!)
Roderick Usher (if he can spare some time)
Urgeok (if he came online...a miracle yet hoping!)
Rayne (if she is seeing this)
Zwoti (YES!)
Despare (see Urgeok^)


...and anybody else reading this. Come on...I need YOU!

[ChronoGrl]

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally got mine in!

[newb]

Just TWO more days till the deadline crosses, folks!

And I need YOUR lists!


Those whom I am expecting that they will submit one, and have yet to submit are -

NEWB (!)
THE RETURN (!)
CHRONOGRL (!)
FORTUNATO (!)
ALKYTRIO666 (!)
Roderick Usher (if he can spare some time)
Urgeok (if he came online...a miracle yet hoping!)
Rayne (if she is seeing this)
Zwoti (YES!)
Despare (see Urgeok^)


...and anybody else reading this. Come on...I need YOU!

sorry bro....busy as hell in work getting ready for our 2 week vacation shutdown...which I am now on :D

sent you a list.....some obscure picks fer sure

[_____V_____]

Thanks for your lists, guys!

Today is the final day for submitting your lists, folks. So...GET A MOVE ON! :D

[Straker]

Got mine done and sent in a few minuites ago. :cool:

[_____V_____]

Got yours, Straker. Thanks.

I was hoping for at least 5-6 more but oh well...

I am in the process of sorting and merging in the Excel sheets. The 100 will be up sometime next week.