Top Bad Seed Movies

[TheWickerFan]

These are my favorite movies about evil children:
The Bad Seed (1956) (of course) -The 1985 remake is worth seeing too.
The Omen (1976)
The Other (1972)
Joshua (2007)
The Godsend (1980) - not the 2004 Robert DeNiro film

[Ferox13]

I'd like to see the Bad Seed remake - loved the original..

How about:

Devil times five (1974)

The Child (1977)

The Good Son (1993) - wasn't
that bad.

Do the 2 Children of the Damned films count?

Children of the Corn (1984) plus the sequals and remake..

The kids in the excellent FROM A WHISPER TO A SCREAM.

The Killer Babies for (the already mentioned:) FROM A WHISPER TO A SCREAM, Sewer baby, the ITS ALIVE movies.

I guess Michael Myers is the ultimate bad seed..

Theres others where the kids are normal but turned evil which is a bit different:

Who would kill a child?

The CHildren (the recent Brit film)

[The Krell]

The Brood! Creepy little scary beaknosed kids!!

[TheWickerFan]

Village Of The Damned and The Brood should've been mentioned. Sorry about that. I suppose Rob Zombie's remake of Halloween could qualify as there's more detail of Michael Myers as a child.
I wish someone would make a version of Children Of The Corn that was more faithful to the short story. It's probably my favorite short story by Stephen King.http://kotisivukone.fi/files/sholmes.ota.fi/kuvia_20/kuvia_21/kuvia_22/kuvia_23/villageofthedamned.gifhttp://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/children-of-the-corn-isaac.jpg

[Ferox13]

I wish someone would make a version of Children Of The Corn that was more faithful to the short story. It's probably my favorite short story by Stephen King.

How do the films differ?

[TheWickerFan]

I only saw the original Children of the Corn which ended differently to the book. I forgot there was a remake recently. Did it end the same way as the book?

[TheWickerFan]

Having watched Orphan recently, I started thinking about certain cliches in this type of movie. Three I thought of:
The parent who is the first to suspect Bad Seed of wrongdoing will have some history of instability to be sure everyone else thinks they're imagining things.
The property of Bad Seed's family will have some extremely dangerous feature; a well, a deep lake, a treehouse, a barn with a loft etc.
A helpless child (usually a sibling of Bad Seed) will inexplicably be left alone with Bad Seed well after suspicions have fallen on them.

[Karl Kopfrkingl]

There's usually a pet with a short life expectancy too. Does anybody remember Twisted with a young Christian Slater?

[ChronoGrl]

I agree with Ferox: The Children (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172571/) was fantastic. HIGHLY recommended.

Loved the original Bad Seed too.

[jenna26]

I agree with Ferox: The Children (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172571/) was fantastic. HIGHLY recommended.


And I also agree, this was surprisingly good. Very creepy.

I love The Bad Seed as well, never watched the remake. It was a television movie wasn't it?

LOVE The Other.

[ChronoGrl]

I need to see The Other. I read the book when I was younger... Fantastically creepy.

[ChronoGrl]

Oh!

How could I forget Home Movie?? Good creepy stuff. HIGHLY recommended.

[Roderick Usher]

IT'S ALIVE is about as bad-seedy as you can get

[AMICUS HORROR]

I liked Fire starter with Drew Barrymore.

[aprilc1]

Loved The Children but as a mom if my daughter ever looked as sick as those kids looked Id take her straight to the hospital

[Killer_Pulp]

The zombie baby from Braindead / Dead Alive....jk. I'm kind of a noob to horror films, so all I will say is Ju-On and the Omen :cool:

[ChronoGrl]

Bumping this - I actually thought that Case 39 was pretty damn impressive.

WF - Have you seen it? Anyone - Thoughts?

[TheWickerFan]

Bumping this - I actually thought that Case 39 was pretty damn impressive.

WF - Have you seen it? Anyone - Thoughts?

I haven't seen it yet, but I really liked the looks of it.

[swiss tony]

How about The Exorcist and Don't Look Now. Those are some troublesome kids. Also, Westside Story! :eek:

[TheWickerFan]

Don't Look Now.

Did you watch the movie?:rolleyes:

[swiss tony]

Yeah and I know what you're going to say but, throughout the movie Mr Sutherland is haunted by what he perceives to be the ghost of his daughter. Therefore, I demand special dispensation. Afterall, you let The Brood slide.:)

[TheWickerFan]

Yeah and I know what you're going to say but, throughout the movie Mr Sutherland is haunted by what he perceives to be the ghost of his daughter. Therefore, I demand special dispensation. Afterall, you let The Brood slide.:)

No special dispensation. The Brood had murderous,evil children. There were no murderous, evil children in Don't Look Now.

[swiss tony]

No special dispensation. The Brood had murderous,evil children. There were no murderous, evil children in Don't Look Now.

As it's your thread, I'll concede defeat on Don't Look Now (my argument was extremely thin there), but I'm not convinced about The Brood. Were they children or spawned creatures embodying her anger? A race of rage foetuses. Is there a difference? And why didn't they make a sequal?

I guess if Cronenberg ever has another acrimonious divorce they still might!:)

[BookZombie]

It's Alive
Omen
Rosemary's Baby
The Good Son
Orphan
Case 39
Silent Hill
Firestarter
Carrie
Let The Right One In

[swiss tony]

Good shout with Let The Right One In. Who are the bad seeds though, the bullies or the girl? I'm going with the bullies!

[TheWickerFan]

As it's your thread, I'll concede defeat on Don't Look Now (my argument was extremely thin there), but I'm not convinced about The Brood. Were they children or spawned creatures embodying her anger? A race of rage foetuses. Is there a difference? And why didn't they make a sequal?

I guess if Cronenberg ever has another acrimonious divorce they still might!:)

I'm pretty lenient on the definition of a "bad seed" movie. I think most people felt this thread was about creepy killer kids (the origin of their homicidal or sociopathic tendencies irrelevant), and The Brood certainly had that.

Don't Look Now and West Side Story, on the other hand, didn't have any creepy killer kids (the characters in West Side Story were hardly "children")

@Bookzombie - Carrie, like West Side Story, is really pushing the "evil children" criteria.

[swiss tony]

I was just having a bit of fun, particularly with Westside Story. The 'youngsters' profess their badness through song which is contradictory on two counts. They ain't young and singing about being bad is the least bad thing you can do.

Here's a serious offering though - Pet Sematary. That little shit was seriously creepy, especially 'cause of the cold way in which he dispatches Herman Munster.

[TheWickerFan]

I was just having a bit of fun, particularly with Westside Story. The 'youngsters' profess their badness through song which is contradictory on two counts. They ain't young and singing about being bad is the least bad thing you can do.

Here's a serious offering though - Pet Sematary. That little shit was seriously creepy, especially 'cause of the cold way in which he dispatches Herman Munster.

That's okay, I'm all for fun.:)

Gage Creed works:http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/pet_sematary.jpg

[BookZombie]

Good shout with Let The Right One In. Who are the bad seeds though, the bullies or the girl? I'm going with the bullies!

I would say both are, but in different ways. The bullies are evil, they like to hurt another person just because they can, however the little girl kills people because she have no other choice. They are both creepy in two different ways, though the little girl get my sympathies, and the bullies do not.

@Bookzombie - Carrie, like West Side Story, is really pushing the "evil children" criteria.

Is not a 16 year old technically still a child?

I second Pet Cemetery, the little zombie boy was so incredibly creepy, the only child more creepy I have seen on film was little Alia from David Lynch's Dune.

[swiss tony]

Is not a 16 year old technically still a child?

I second Pet Cemetery, the little zombie boy was so incredibly creepy, the only child more creepy I have seen on film was little Alia from David Lynch's Dune.

I would say a 16 y.o. is adolescent whereas under 12 is a child. Perhaps technically you're right. It's Wicker's ball, so I'll let her decide.

I have to respectfully disagree about the creepiest child in movie history. It can only be Linda Blair's Regan MacNeil from The Exorcist. Closely followed by Toshio from The Grudge.

[TheWickerFan]

Is not a 16 year old technically still a child?


I really think the children in question need to be under the age of 12 in order to qualify; otherwise something like A Clockwork Orange would count.

[swiss tony]

Here's a pointless question; what's the youngest 'bad seed' in horror movie history?

Zombie baby in the Dawn of the Dead remake?

[BookZombie]

I do not know about Regan, she is definitely creepy, but at times with the head spinning and vomiting and knife...well I would say she is more shocking than creepy, creepy for me have always meant a bit more subtlety. Toshio however I can agree with.

Here's a pointless question; what's the youngest 'bad seed' in horror movie history?

Well in It Lives Again the parents find out that they are carrying a monster baby and at least 1/3 of the movie is the parents trying to figure out what to do about it and trying to prevent the little monster baby from getting killed. Though in Rosemary's Baby there is an even younger evil embryo so perhaps that is the youngest.

I really think the children in question need to be under the age of 12 in order to qualify; otherwise something like A Clockwork Orange would count.

Alright then I exchange Carrie for Dune (The David Lynch movie.) and the bad seed in question is then off course St Alia of the Knife.

[Fearonsarms]

Great to see a mention for David Lynch's Dune. Have you read the book bookzombie? I think Lynch did an admirable attempt to film it but the sheer scale and scope of utter pandemonium the book subtley implies is impossible to tanslate to screen. I avoided reading the sequels cos I can't see how they can top the original.

[BookZombie]

I am a big fan of the Dune book series, so yes I have read Dune. I do not think the sequels top the original, but they do continue the saga and quite well. The prequel novels that have lately been produced by Herbert's son Brian Herbert however is another story. They are sort of fun science fiction and I do read them, but they can not match the majesty of Dune.

I like the David Lynch movie, in a way it captures the mood of Dune very well, and Frank Herbert himself was in on the creation process and sanctioned allot of the special effects, like the navigator puppet. However I think he when a bit overboard with the Harkonens, well are they evil but why are they slaughtering cows in a hallways?

[Fearonsarms]

Yes I agree about the Harkonens in Lynch's Dune they were a bit OTT compared to the book but St Alia Of The Knife is delightful completely comes to life. Although there are rumours that the original film was something like four hours long and was heavily edited so I doubt we will ever see Lynch's full vision for the book. All this talk about the book makes me want to read it again so I might who knows I may actually be tempted to continue the saga this time I could just be too pessimistic about the sequels and have overlooked them.

[neverending]

Soon after the film came out I heard an interview with Frank Herbert on Larry King (back when he was on the radio). Herbert said the original cut of the film was 7 hours long, and it was GREAT. I'd love to see that!

[BookZombie]

The original cut of Dune was extremely long and Lynch said that he did not want his name on any cut shorter than three hours as it would not be a true representation of his work, sadly A none listened to him and B the longest cut available is 2 and a half hours or so, however generally go for the longest version of the film you can find.

Basically if you are going to read the sequels then I recommend going for Dune Messiah and Children of Dune first, they continues the saga, with the same characters. God Emperor of Dune follows them but are set long after everyone save Paul's son is dead, the rest of the books in the series get a little weird, still good but weird. However the first two or three sequels those I fully recommend.

[Fearonsarms]

Shit it was originally 7 hours that's longer than I thought shame we will never see it.

Thanks bookzombie for the recommendations-I will keep this as reference when I get around to reading again. I think I burned out reading too much so on a bit of a long break at the moment (besides trying to finish The Scarlet Letter which is taking me months) so when I get back into ill deffo check them out cheers :)

[BookZombie]

My pleasure. I love books and I love to talk about them with people.

I wish they published the whole of Lynch's film, they could edit it a bit and make it into a mini series. I know there is a Dune miniseries, and it is quite good actually, and for following the story of the books it is better for it is longer, but it lacks the look and feel of Lynch's movie so just getting to see the whole of what Lynch made, no matter how long it may be would be great.

[Fearonsarms]

I watched the first couple of episodes of Dune the mini series and I'm sorry it wasnt to my taste I didnt like what they had done with it but I think I have overlooked the sequels to the book.

Another good example of Bad Seed movies is The Masters of Horror episode Pro-Life.

[BookZombie]

I did not like the costumes and mood of the miniseries, but I think it told more of the story than the movie. It was far less artistic, but it lacked in atmosphere, however it stayed truer to the book, however the Lynch movie stayed true to the Spirit of the Dune book instead. Or at least that is how I see it.

As for Bad Seed movies, you can not overlook the Addams Family movies, it might not be horror, however the Addams kids, especially Wednesday are delightfully spooky, and a baby that breath fire is not to be ignored either. The Addams kids spend their days trying to kill one another and loves to scare the neighbors. There is one thing I did not like though. In Family Values Wednesday get a boyfriend, a little outcast boy, their relationship is a sort of important part of the movie. Now at the very end she kills him, scares him to death, for no apparent reason. Now I think this was completely out of character as while we have seen Wednesday get violent with her brother, though the entire family seam to possess some sort immortality so he never really get hurt, and with those that cross her, she have never, not in the TV series and not in the movies been portrayed as randomly evil or violent so why would she try to scare to death a boy that she likes?

Also you have the movie Orphanage, with the little boy with the sack over his head. He is creepy like hell, and that whole movie is just great. I think that movie should be mentioned in this thread if it have not already.