Woman Gives Self C-Section With Knife

[bloodrayne]

Woman Gives Self C-Section With Knife
Mother Had Lost Child Before During Childbirth

CHICAGO -- Doctors say a rural Mexican woman used her farming skills to perform a Caesarean section on herself -- and delivered a healthy baby boy.

The effort is described as "heroic."

The authors of a medical journal report said there are cases of women performing Caesareans on themselves, but none where mother and child both survived.

The woman lived in a dirt-floor house with no electricity or running water and was alone when she went into labor with her ninth child.

There were complications, and the woman's experience slaughtering animals helped her perform the crude C-section. Having lost a baby during childbirth, she was determined to save this one.

She was later taken to a hospital, where a nurse closed the incision with an ordinary needle and thread.

[SFF]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Woman Gives Self C-Section With Knife
Mother Had Lost Child Before During Childbirth

CHICAGO -- Doctors say a rural Mexican woman used her farming skills to perform a Caesarean section on herself -- and delivered a healthy baby boy.

The effort is described as "heroic."

The authors of a medical journal report said there are cases of women performing Caesareans on themselves, but none where mother and child both survived.

The woman lived in a dirt-floor house with no electricity or running water and was alone when she went into labor with her ninth child.

There were complications, and the woman's experience slaughtering animals helped her perform the crude C-section. Having lost a baby during childbirth, she was determined to save this one.

She was later taken to a hospital, where a nurse closed the incision with an ordinary needle and thread.

And men think they are "tough". LOL

[hellfire1]

Originally posted by SFF
And men think they are "tough". LOL

lmao !
there's nothing tougher than a female trying to protect her kin, imo.

[bloodygurl02]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Woman Gives Self C-Section With Knife
Mother Had Lost Child Before During Childbirth

CHICAGO -- Doctors say a rural Mexican woman used her farming skills to perform a Caesarean section on herself -- and delivered a healthy baby boy.

The effort is described as "heroic."

The authors of a medical journal report said there are cases of women performing Caesareans on themselves, but none where mother and child both survived.

The woman lived in a dirt-floor house with no electricity or running water and was alone when she went into labor with her ninth child.

There were complications, and the woman's experience slaughtering animals helped her perform the crude C-section. Having lost a baby during childbirth, she was determined to save this one.

She was later taken to a hospital, where a nurse closed the incision with an ordinary needle and thread.


just goes to show women are NOT the weaker sex. glad her and the baby r doing good though. that took guts

[evil_blonde]

Its hard to imagine how hard that would be....

[Arioch]

Funny how only women responded to this thread. I cant wait to get flamed by you guys lol. If by tougher sex you mean greater in terms of manipulation through sex, being deceitfull, all the while complaining about equal treatment of the sexes AND the lack of chivalry and how there are no real men left.

Not to mention the lies women spout about wanting a "nice guy", the only reason a woman wants a nice guy, is so she has someone to talk to about the asshole shes fucking. No woman wants the nice guy to BE WITH, just to help her deal with the dickhead she really wants. Im generalizing, but not by much.

Ill give you this act of self-cesarian is hardcore, curagous even, but im really tired of how prowoman every woman is in the world, and how Inpolitically Correct it is to even BE a male anymore.

Bring on the FLAMES!!

[last bad move]

Originally posted by Arioch
Funny how only women responded to this thread. I cant wait to get flamed by you guys lol. If by tougher sex you mean greater in terms of manipulation through sex, being deceitfull, all the while complaining about equal treatment of the sexes AND the lack of chivalry and how there are no real men left.

Not to mention the lies women spout about wanting a "nice guy", the only reason a woman wants a nice guy, is so she has someone to talk to about the asshole shes fucking. No woman wants the nice guy to BE WITH, just to help her deal with the dickhead she really wants. Im generalizing, but not by much.

Ill give you this act of self-cesarian is hardcore, curagous even, but im really tired of how prowoman every woman is in the world, and how Inpolitically Correct it is to even BE a male anymore.

Bring on the FLAMES!! no flame here but a big lmao

[Unit 03]

The only thing STUPIDER than women, is the things men do to obtain women, well perhaps the stupid things women post on message boards.

Someone want to explain to me how this woman who lives on a dirt floor and no doubt doesn't know shit about shit can perform a C-section BY HERSELF, with what appears to be NO anesthetics, with a knife when there are NO cases of both surviving in previous attempts.

Also note the source of this article "doctors say" Doctors say alot of things, doesn't mean they arn't spouting out alot of bullshit.

[Arioch]

It seems to me that the generation of women in their early twenties are kind of confused. They've been brought up by their parents who practised 'old fashioned' rules and values while being bombarded with the modern views of the sex roles. And, sadly to say, instead of choosing one, many women have decided to take the best of both worlds. I often dated girls who worked full time while I was an unemployed full time student. Some were 'moderate' feminist, and often found a way to blame their problems on the men around them. IN spite of all this, they would still expect me (the unemployed student) to pay for just about everything we did because 'thats how men are supposed to treat a lady'. So, they made more money than me, expected equality in the work place, but still insisted on me paying for everything.
If i go on a date to a movie, not only do i have to pay, but i also have to watch a movie of the womans choice. If i go out for dinner, not only do i have to pay, but i go to a restaurant of the womens choice.
What exactly am I getting out of this relationship?

I'll tell you what i'm getting. Only one thing. Sex! This is why Bill Maher referes to relationships as legal prostitution. And, being that women like sex as much as men, (they just pretend they don't) you can see that women get one hell of a lot more out of a relationship than the man does. Like i said at the top of this post, obviously not all women are like this. But, from my experience, more are like this than you would think.

What does this do to men? Well, some turn into the 'pussy wipped' men that are pretty much their womans slave. Others just turn very angry and resentful towards woman. And then there is those that actually find a great woman and live happily ever after. Im not saying it doesnt happen, we should all be so lucky. But im tired of the huge double standard at work here.

"you say women are smarter than men? yea!yea! round of a appluase, you say men are smarter than women? your fucking booed off stage"

[Unit 03]

"a Northwestern University obstetrician who learned about the case from a colleague." Straight from the article, well I heard from a colleague that its complete Bullshit, why not put that in the news. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Unit 03
The only thing STUPIDER than women, is the things men do to obtain womenI'm afraid that I cannot help you to account for the stupidity of some of the members of either sex...However...As for this...
Originally posted by Unit 03
well perhaps the stupid things women post on message boards.If you find the articles that are posted here to be of a level of intelligence which does not reflect your own...I would encourage you to refrain from reading them, as they seem to provoke your ireOriginally posted by Unit 03
Someone want to explain to me how this woman who lives on a dirt floor and no doubt doesn't know shit about shit can perform a C-section BY HERSELF, with what appears to be NO anesthetics, with a knife.I am posting an actual link for you that contains even more information than what I previously posted...Perhaps it can help to answer your questions in a manner in which it will be easier for you to understand the process...Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to obtain more details Originally posted by Unit 03 when there are NO cases of both surviving in previous attempts.According to this additional information, which has been broadcast by more than 100 news agencies, and is the property of the Associated Press...You are correct in assuming that this is indeed a firstOriginally posted by Unit 03
Also note the source of this article "doctors say" Doctors say alot of things, doesn't mean they arn't spouting out alot of bullshit..While this statement is certainly true...I wouldn't be able to propose a reasonable explanation as to the purpose of, so many countrywide news agencies, or any medical professionals, attempting to decieve you:)

This link is for Unit 03...
http://www.napanews.com/templates/index.cfm?template=story_full&id=C164C725-2F40-434D-AFE4-A3A1A295CE16

As for anyone else, who does not require a link, but would like to read the additional information as well...Here is the other story...

Mexican woman performs her own C-section
Thursday, April 8, 2004

By LINDSEY TANNER
AP Medical Writer

CHICAGO -- A woman in Mexico cut open her own womb with a knife and delivered a healthy baby boy in her rural home when problems developed during labor, doctors report in a medical journal.

The woman and her son, her ninth child, both survived despite an eight-hour car ride to the nearest hospital and a wait of several hours once she got there, said co-author Dr. Rafael Valle, a Northwestern University obstetrician who learned about the case from a colleague.

"She was asked, 'Why did you do that? Do you know you could have died?' She said, 'Yes, but I wanted to save my baby,"' Valle said Wednesday. He added: "This is heroic to me."

The authors of the report said there are other cases of women attempting the same thing, but none they could find in which the mother and child survived.

The woman, 40, lived in a dirt-floor house with no electricity or running water and had previously lost a baby during childbirth, the authors said.

She was alone when she went into labor, and fearing the same thing would happen when it appeared childbirth was not progressing, she decided to perform the crude C-section. She drank three small glasses of hard liquor first to numb the pain, he said.

"Rather than experience fetal death in utero again, she used her skills at slaughtering animals," the report said. "Apparently, she did not bleed excessively and asked one of her children to call a local nurse for help before she lost consciousness."

The nurse stitched up the woman's abdomen with an ordinary needle and thread, and the mother and baby were taken to a hospital in the Mexican state of Oaxaca.

The incident happened about two years ago. The report appears in the March issue of the International Journal of Gynecology and Obstetrics, along with photographs of the woman's incision.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Unit 03
"a Northwestern University obstetrician who learned about the case from a colleague." Straight from the article, well I heard from a colleague that its complete Bullshit, why not put that in the news. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Apparently, you aren't newsworthy:rolleyes:

[Arioch]

I'm just curious as to why there is no actual interview with her. Just people saying what she said and whatnot. If this was a world history first, you think they would have her talking a bit more about it:confused:

[Unit 03]

Heres something for you

Micheal jackson's secret gay love affair
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/feature.cfm?instanceid=61478

Fact of the matter is, THIS article has more proof and actual backing then the bullshit one posted here. Just because someone claims something doesn't mean its true, and Just because the Media decided to air something also doesnt mean its true. This whole story is based of ONE guy who claims this. As for why, Oh lets see dame,fortune, publicity...the same reason anyone says anything to the media, for attention.

Oh one more thing, how does a person with a dirt phone have her child call a local nurse?

[bloodrayne]

First of all...I do not create the news...If I find something that I think is interesting, I post it here...For example...I did not post your Michael Jackson story because it is of no interest to me, which in turn is also why I did not read it...Thanks for the link anyway, someone ELSE may be interested...See how that works? If you do not like a story, or if it is of no interest to you, simply do not read it...
If you wish to dispute the facts contained in the story that I posted, I suggest that you contact one of the many news agencies that reported it, or if you are industrious enough, you may even be able to find a venue in which to contact the actual people in the story...I have no desire or commitment to defend or verify, any story that I find on the Associated Press Wire...That would be the job of the reporter...And so...Unit 03 and Arioch..I am unable to answer your questions, and also unconcerned about that inability...Basically, that means...Frankly my dears, I don't give a damn... :)
AND...Your dispute is with the wrong person ;)

Allow me to reiterate one last time, as you seem to have missed it...If you don't like it...You don't have to read it...And, here's a new one for you...If you DO read it...You don't have to like it:cool:

[hellfire1]

LMAO !!

all we said is that what she did was tough, and you guys turn this into a battle of the sexes !!! arioch, no flames, i swear !!! but i must say, in your speech, you remind me of the many angry women who have been burned... nay, SCALDED repeatedly by members of the opposite sex !! lol careful... bitterness and celibacy are just a step away ! :p :D

[feral cat]

Originally posted by Arioch
Not to mention the lies women spout about wanting a "nice guy", the only reason a woman wants a nice guy, is so she has someone to talk to about the asshole shes fucking. No woman wants the nice guy to BE WITH, just to help her deal with the dickhead she really wants. Im generalizing, but not by much.

... so f*ckin true! LOL

Feral Cat ... has greater respect for Ariochs powers of social comentery!

[Plaguewind]

Originally posted by hellfire1
LMAO !!

all we said is that what she did was tough, and you guys turn this into a battle of the sexes !!!


THAT were where I wanted to get... My dear friends... Personally, I don't think this thread was meant to become a boys vs. girls battlefield... Let's face it, what she did WAS tough, no matter what each one here personally thinks of women... Besides that... Come on, my friends... I don't think you ACTUALLY believe whatever you said about women... Only some really frustrated, definitely miserable minds would conceive such things about the fair, but still definitely tough, sex...

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by feral cat

Feral Cat ... has greater respect for Ariochs powers of social comentery! And BloodRayne has so much less:(

[feral cat]

whooah there Nelly ....... I just liked that little snippit it was funny!
... I have no battle with any sex ... just a battle for it!!!

I thinks its amazing she saved herself and the baby, but I guess she new she would die if she did nothing!

Feral Cat

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by hellfire1
LMAO !!

all we said is that what she did was tough, and you guys turn this into a battle of the sexes !!! arioch, no flames, i swear !!! but i must say, in your speech, you remind me of the many angry women who have been burned... nay, SCALDED by members of the opposite sex !! lol careful... bitterness and celibacy are just a step away ! :p :D Oh, Hellfire...If you only knew.....

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Plaguewind
Personally, I don't think this thread was meant to become a boys vs. girls battlefield... Let's face it, what she did WAS tough, no matter what each one here personally thinks of women... Besides that... Come on, my friends... I don't think you ACTUALLY believe whatever you said about women... Only some really frustrated, definitely miserable minds would conceive such things about the fair, but still definitely tough, sex... It's nice to see that some guys actually LIKE women:rolleyes: :)

[Wicked Lady]

Originally posted by Arioch
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Not to mention the lies women spout about wanting a "nice guy", the only reason a woman wants a nice guy, is so she has someone to talk to about the asshole shes fucking. No woman wants the nice guy to BE WITH, just to help her deal with the dickhead she really wants. Im generalizing, but not by much.

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but still insisted on me paying for everything.
If i go on a date to a movie, not only do i have to pay, but i also have to watch a movie of the womans choice. If i go out for dinner, not only do i have to pay, but i go to a restaurant of the womens choice.
What exactly am I getting out of this relationship?

ok, I took two of your quotes...all I want to say is that I have the "nice guy" and I wouldn't want ANYTHING else I don't understand who would actualy want to be with a jerk:rolleyes:

also in referance to the second part of the quote, whenever me and my guy go out, WE choose the restaurant, WE choose the movie, and guess who pays...whoever has enough money

you can not say these things about one particular group of people unless you KNOW all of them

[evil_blonde]

this was an entertaining read thanx u guys :)

[SFF]

I think the men on here need to stop whining. Over the centuries, women have endured all types of discrimination and unspeakable acts of degradation applied towards them. And here are a handful of guys, whose gender pretty much rules the fucking world, bitching about how badly they have got it. Let's trade places for just one day, assholes. Ha! Then we will see who has it the worst. You will all be begging to go back to "Happy 'ol Dickland" within milliseconds.

@ Unit 03: Next time you start throwing the "stupid" word around, go look in the mirror. I think you need to pay a visit to the "Grammar Lessons with Haunted" thread. And of course, Haunted is female, so viewing this thread is all the more mandatory.:cool:

[Arioch]

In response to Wicked Lady, next time your gonna quote someone to call them out on it, i suggest you read the entire quote.As i addressed anomolies such as yourself, in the exact section you quoted:
Im generalizing, but not by much. I stated right there that im generalizing, thus admitting this doesnt apply to all women.

NEXT!!

I don't think you ACTUALLY believe whatever you said about women... Only some really frustrated, definitely miserable minds would conceive such things about the fair, but still definitely tough, sex...

Its ture ill admit ive been through my fair share of getting fucked over by women that suposedly want the "nice guy", but i refuse to be manipulated into giving in to societal roles of giving them everything they want to "woo" them and get sex. Not only is it a double standard, its just plain bullshit.

And BloodRayne has so much less
The only time you dissrespect my intellect is when it happenes upon a political view you dissagree with, say.... ALL of them:rolleyes: Had we been arguing about some group your not apart of, you would have backed my argument with fanfare.....that was a low blow with no basis or point.

It's nice to see that some guys actually LIKE women
Or a specific one in general......im sure his opinion on this, and other issues, are TOTALLY unbiased:rolleyes: truley transparent.

think the men on here need to stop whining. Over the centuries, women have endured all types of discrimination and unspeakable acts of degradation applied towards them. And here are a handful of guys, whose gender pretty much rules the fucking world, bitching about how badly they have got it. Let's trade places for just one day, assholes. Ha! Then we will see who has it the worst. You will all be begging to go back to "Happy 'ol Dickland" within milliseconds.

As its been said before "Women already rule the world, they have half the money, and ALL the pussy"

[Unit 03]

Originally posted by Wicked Lady

you can not say these things about one particular group of people unless you KNOW all of them

Then you can't go and say "women are tough" and all that other bullshit either.

SFF if you have no actual argument or relevant point to make but are content to sit on the side lines and point out typing errors then
http://www.texasmartialarts.net/uncleop.jpg

Rayne you completely missed the point I was making, I didn't say YOU made the news but that entire story and all the stupid ass remarks made by females that came after it are all based on what one guy heard from his colleague. The story can have absoletuly NO actual basis in reality from all that we know as there is NO proof that it ever happened at all. Not to mention all the facts that argue against it.

[Arioch]

Oh and thnx Feral Cat. Im glad someone can discuss the views without bashing me for just being born Male and having an opinion. And it appears im not the only one whos delt with said issues.

But the truth is, this isnt a man vs. woman issue, and the women on here far outnumber the men, so im fighting a loosing battle, i knew that before i started. But sometimes a man has to vent....

[SFF]

Originally posted by Unit 03
Then you can't go and say "women are tough" and all that other bullshit either.

SFF if you have no actual argument or relevant point to make but are content to sit on the side lines and point out typing errors then
http://www.texasmartialarts.net/uncleop.jpg

Rayne you completely missed the point I was making, I didn't say YOU made the news but that entire story and all the stupid ass remarks made by females that came after it are all based on what one guy heard from his colleague. The story can have absoletuly NO actual basis in reality from all that we know as there is NO proof that it ever happened at all. Not to mention all the facts that argue against it.

OMG!!! How fucking clever!!! A predesigned clipart image which WAS NOT created by you.

PS Why don't you snap off that 3-inch Unit of yours and cram it up your ass sideways? Uh your spelling is VERY important, when you are attempting to criticize other's intelligence. Everyone knows that, fucktard. Er...except for you.

[Unit 03]

Actually I did design and word it myself, I have more if you want me to post them..

"PS Why don't you snap off that 3-inch Unit of yours and cram it up your ass sideways? Uh your spelling is VERY important, when you are attempting to criticize other's intelligence. Everyone knows that, fucktard. Er...except for you."

A little touchy are we SFF, did I hurt your feelings....
http://www.texasmartialarts.net/ps.jpg

Lets see have you REALLY come down to this? Have you lost all relevant points so that you have to stoop down to petty name calling? Perhaps next time your going to criticize me for spelling, you might want to use an actual word, moron. Unless that is of coarse you can find the definition for fucktard, you stupid bitch.