!!!We need a new Horror Icon!!!

[Horror Guy]

Hi folks, is it me or since Michael, Jason and Freddy (and a few others), we haven't had a horror icon, all through the 90s, no new icon just sequals to icons already existing. Are we doomed to admire the work of icons that r alread past their prime. Anyone have ideas on a new horror icon...?

[Clockwork Black]

Victor Crowley from Hatchet, Babyface from The Hills Run Red, or Leslie Veron from Behind the Mask would be my top three if it were up to me. Loved all three of those. Matter of fact, Id rather watch any of those than most of the Michael, Jason, or Freddy sequals.

[Horror Guy]

those are good picks, but none of them grab you like those guys did in the 80s

[massacre man]

There wasn't a horror icon in the '90s?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AkrZ09GYiws/RyTch10kuWI/AAAAAAAAByI/mPyDUAOPBWg/s400/scream01.jpg

and if you count Michael for the '80s you should count this guy for the '90s since that's where the bulk of his adventures took place:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/sksloanski/Other%20SciFi%202/chucky.jpg

Anyway, we have Sam, Victor, Leslie, and Jigsaw.

[Horror Guy]

no way the scream guy is a horror icon, he was so weak, honestly i thought Jeepers Creepers would rise to take the throne, but it didn't happen.

[massacre man]

no way the scream guy is a horror icon,

I don't think strength makes you an icon. I think it's recognition that does that, that's why it's referred to as "icon" and not "asskicker" and over 500,000,000 million in box office receipts and mixed-positive reception of the series' quality pretty much solidifies his/her place as a horror icon.

[Horror Guy]

considering that the series made a boatload of money you got a point, the fact that the killer change every movie, to me disqualifies him as a legit horror icon.

[Clockwork Black]

Honestly, the slasher genre has been bleed completly dry. Freddy vs Jason was an example of that. Its going to be hard to break any new ground on that front. After well over 20 years, collectively 23 sequals, and (soon to be 4) remakes just between those three characters it all been tapped. Not the mention the slew of post Halloween, one hit wonder slashers.

The slasher movie is dead, buried, dug up, pissed on, and buried again.
As much as it pains me to say it, honestly, we may have to settle for Jigsaw. And belive me, nobody wants that less than I do. After the first one, those movies started blowing harder and harder.

[massacre man]

considering that the series made a boatload of money you got a point, the fact that the killer change every movie, to me disqualifies him as a legit horror icon.

I'd think having a successor to a mantle, meaning it could be anybody with a chip on their shouler, is scarier than a guy who hangs around one summer camp and gets electrified back to life every year.

[Horror Guy]

it's agreed that horror is fiction, so anything is possible. With that being said, horror is suppose to influence your imagination. in the 80s they were many icons, some of which has been forgotten (Frank Zito: Maniac 1980) who were brutal in there own individual ways.

[massacre man]

it's agreed that horror is fiction, so anything is possible. With that being said, horror is suppose to influence your imagination.

You kind of just supported my point... Having a mystery killer can stimulate your mind and make you guess who it is holding the knife. Watching a retarded zombie in a hockey mask's resurrection by Ben Franklin for the 49th time doesn't.

[Horror Guy]

u seem to think that jason voorhees is the only icon out there, jason aside u can talk all day about the 80 and how it was the decade of horror

[Clockwork Black]

u seem to think that jason voorhees is the only icon out there, jason aside u can talk all day about the 80 and how it was the decade of horror

A new crop will come around sooner or later. Jason, Freddy, and Michael wernt the first horror icons......they wouldnt be the last.

[massacre man]

u seem to think that jason voorhees is the only icon out there, jason aside u can talk all day about the 80 and how it was the decade of horror

Because Jason was on your list of icons, for which I feel Ghostface is more qualified. I am very aware that he is not the only icon. And the '80s had a lot of horror, but definitely wasn't the "decade of horror" The '70s had Halloween, The Exorcist, Jaws, Alien, Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead. The '80s weren't bad by any means, pretty great, but still not horror's definitive decade, I'm not saying the '70s are either, the '70s were just better.

[ChronoGrl]

I agree with Ghost Face being the Horror Icon of the 90s. Whether or not one liked those films, it's hard to argue their popularity amongst the masses.

Horror Icons of the 2000's:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Chronogrl/grudge_xl_01--film-B.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Chronogrl/the-grudge-20041015042849879-000.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Chronogrl/Jigsaw-puppet.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Chronogrl/saw3-tobin-as-jigsaw_1173913328.jpg

To be clear, though, I don't think that any of the above mentioned icons really displace Jason, Freddy, Michael, or Leatherface, nor do we really "need" any new ones (I don't at least - Michael Meyers is a permant staple of my nightmares). I think that their (Jason, Freddy, Michael, Leatherface) infamy is far more prevalent. Ghost Face and Jigsaw are more fads than anything else; that's how you can argue that Ghost Face was not an icon of the 90s. But, oh, he was... He just faded.


Also - Whoever said that the Slasher genre is dead should watch Laid to Rest (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1228933/), My Bloody Valentine 3D (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1179891/), and Inside (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0856288/). Icons don't necessarily make a genre; subject matter does.

[_____V_____]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/ghots72/m_night_shyamalan_3.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww237/thebluesader/boll.jpg

[massacre man]

You know what would be an entirely new/awesome twist to the Saw series? Billy the Doll was manipulating Jigsaw and the copycat killers into setting the traps using them as puppets! I'd see that movie because it would be bad in an awesome way, not bad in a Saw sequel way.

'Twas a joke, by the way.

[psycho d]

i think that Chronogrl is onto something...

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/oceandiablo/Ringu1cp.jpg

Nothing says icon like scary Asian hair. Ashe.
derek

[Doc Faustus]

I think the question we need to ask is: "is franchise horror nostalgia a mental illness or just a crippling learning disability?" I don't miss repetitive sequels starring characters that are only moderately interesting. It really wasn't that cool to be able to rent the same damn movie with a different Roman numeral next to it. These are C+ films at best and it's a trend we benefit from having progressed beyond. Why is there no horror icon in the 2000s? Because this has been a sucky decade for the horror movie with very few exceptions. The only icons I'd like to recommend are Captain Spaulding and the Firefly family. They're recognizeable, people wear the costumes and people would see a third movie starring those characters even if it was completely inept. We need creativity and innovation to move ahead not rehashing formulas because we liked them when we were 12.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

i think that Chronogrl is onto something...

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/oceandiablo/Ringu1cp.jpg

Nothing says icon like scary Asian hair. Ashe.
derek

it's not the hair, asians in general are just extremely scary.

the speech pattern, the evil eyes, the soulless expressions *shudder*

[Ferox13]

it's not the hair, asians in general are just extremely scary.

The speech pattern, the evil eyes, the soulless expressions *shudder*

lol

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[roshiq]

I think little Sam has potential to become one...

http://z.about.com/d/horror/1/0/Z/_/-/-/TrickrTreat10.jpg

[iSeymore]

I seen "Ghostface" from the "SCREAM" movies to be some what of a horor movie icon through the late 1990's until the early 2000's. Every Halloween I'd see people walking around rockin' the "Ghostface" mask, trick or treating. I suppose "Billy the puppet" from the "SAW" franchise to be an icon from the early-mid 2000's up until now with the new release of "SAW VI" and "chucky the doll" from the "Child's play" franchise from the early-mid 1990's up until the late 1990's to be an icon of some sorts.

[p1zl3]

If you guys are in dire need of a new horror icon; I give you full permission to fear me... (Mwhahahahaha)

...But I'll stick with 1990's Pennywise from "It".
http://www.best-horror-movies.com/images/it-pennywise-basement.jpg

...how about Nemesis from resident evil?
http://analogmedium.com/blog/2007/03/resident+evil+2+3.jpg

[ChronoGrl]

it's not the hair, asians in general are just extremely scary.

the speech pattern, the evil eyes, the soulless expressions *shudder*

Also - They don't sweat, which is just wrong.

[mechu95]

...how about Nemesis from resident evil?
http://analogmedium.com/blog/2007/03/resident+evil+2+3.jpg

Reminds me of Chatterer (one of the Hellraiser cenobites), is he related?

[AmericanManiac]

What about Jigsaw? I mean he never really killed anybody. But wouldn't he be considered a Horror Icon?

[AmericanManiac]

I think little Sam has potential to become one...

http://z.about.com/d/horror/1/0/Z/_/-/-/TrickrTreat10.jpg

YES!!! I completely agree with you on that one!

[tbrookside]

I think the question we need to ask is: "is franchise horror nostalgia a mental illness or just a crippling learning disability?" I don't miss repetitive sequels starring characters that are only moderately interesting. It really wasn't that cool to be able to rent the same damn movie with a different Roman numeral next to it. These are C+ films at best and it's a trend we benefit from having progressed beyond. Why is there no horror icon in the 2000s? Because this has been a sucky decade for the horror movie with very few exceptions. The only icons I'd like to recommend are Captain Spaulding and the Firefly family. They're recognizeable, people wear the costumes and people would see a third movie starring those characters even if it was completely inept. We need creativity and innovation to move ahead not rehashing formulas because we liked them when we were 12.

I really have to agree. The 80's horror icons became icons on the basis of some really bad sequel films. The repetition made them pop culture staples, but not necessarily on the basis of really great horror. A lot of us let them look better in retrospect due to nostalgia, but during the 80's everyone knew almost all of these films were terrible. They were cheap to make and made money so they got churned out. But that doesn't mean that they were good.