Remakes are a disgrace

[paul2012]

Rob Zombie should be ashamed of himself. Of course he wouldn't know what shame meant. Part of the lure of Halloween was not knowing what made Michael Myers so evil. Zombie blew it by chalking it up to growing up in a dysfunctional family and having an abusive childhood. We can get that crap on Court TV every nite. He also took the character of Dr. Loomis and relegated him to a creep who would sell his mother for a book deal. I can only imagine the damage Zombie will do to his remake of the Blob.

Zombie also made a mess of Friday the 13th which would almost seem impossible. He made nearly every character so despicable the audience was literally cheering as Jason took them out.

We've also seen this in the remake of the Fog. Old Mr. Machem went from being a crusty old fisherman telling spooky campfire stories to being an alcoholic bum.

There should be laws for misfits like Zombie to be sued for tampering with classic horror movies.

[Straker]

I don't really have a problem with remakes. There isn't a long list of remakes I really like but they don't harm the original, regardless of how bad they are. Didn't enjoy Zombie's Halloween, but then again I haven't enjoyed any of his work, so no big surprise there. The Thing, The Fly, The Blob are all quality remakes so I'm prepared to put up with all the rubbish ones as long as gems like those pop up every now and again.

[Kemal]

There are good remakes out there... I think they are few and far between though.

[cheebacheeba]

To me, remake hatred is like...carried on about like those that try to see their religion/faith.
If you don't like 'em, don't watch 'em - trying to convince a wider audience is a little annoying, especially on a topic we see visited here at least monthly.

[Gregburnscds]

Zombie also made a mess of Friday the 13th which would almost seem impossible. He made nearly every character so despicable the audience was literally cheering as Jason took them out.

Umm, What are you talking about? Zombie had NOTHING to do with the Friday the 13th remake!

[p1zl3]

trying to convince a wider audience is a little annoying, especially on a topic we see visited here at least monthly.

...more like bi-monthly or even tri-monthly.

[Despare]

This thread is pretty much just a remake. Unless of course, you prefer "re-imagining".

[Ferox13]

I for one think that the of Maltese Falcon is one of the best films ever made (not by Rob Zombie)...


I also thought Rob Zombie's remake of Dawn of the Dead was pretty good. Rumour has it he has a remake of the Devil's Rejects in the works too - that should be good.

[p1zl3]

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I also thought Rob Zombie's remake of Dawn of the Dead was pretty good. Rumour has it he has a remake of the Devil's Rejects in the works too - that should be good.

What? Rob Zombie did a remake of Dawn of the Dead...when? Only remake of DotD I know of was by Zack Snyder's in 2k4...
Why remake Devil's Rejects? It was done effectively the first time around...

[mechu95]

Wasn't Devil's Rejects made in 2005?

BTW, regarding Zombie's The Blob remake... wonder how much is it gonna suck? I mean, The Blob with CGI is like mixing Guns N' Roses with the Jonas Brothers :/

[massacre man]

I mean, The Blob with CGI is like mixing Guns N' Roses with the Jonas Brothers :/

Stop making things up to bitch about. How do you know it will be CGI?

Worst comparison ever, by the way.

[mechu95]

Stop making things up to bitch about. How do you know it will be CGI?

Okay, given that Rob Zombie is such a huge horror fan, there is a chance... but I'm not hoping for it.

Worst comparison ever, by the way.

Yeah, sorry, I do that too much :(

[Ferox13]

What? Rob Zombie did a remake of Dawn of the Dead...when? Only remake of DotD I know of was by Zack Snyder's in 2k4...
Why remake Devil's Rejects? It was done effectively the first time around...

Oh I was just following the Originals Posters lead and posting random lies about Rob Zombie.

[benim]

i always prefer to watch the original films, i've never watched a remake so i'm not sure they all suck. but even if the remake film is well-directed, i don't see a point to watch it. why should i waste my time with "A Nightmare on Elm Street" 2010 film while i have the 1984 one?

[Posher778]

Rob Zombie should be ashamed of himself. Of course he wouldn't know what shame meant. Part of the lure of Halloween was not knowing what made Michael Myers so evil. Zombie blew it by chalking it up to growing up in a dysfunctional family and having an abusive childhood. We can get that crap on Court TV every nite. He also took the character of Dr. Loomis and relegated him to a creep who would sell his mother for a book deal. I can only imagine the damage Zombie will do to his remake of the Blob.

Zombie also made a mess of Friday the 13th which would almost seem impossible. He made nearly every character so despicable the audience was literally cheering as Jason took them out.

We've also seen this in the remake of the Fog. Old Mr. Machem went from being a crusty old fisherman telling spooky campfire stories to being an alcoholic bum.

There should be laws for misfits like Zombie to be sued for tampering with classic horror movies.

As if this hasn't been said 4535747 times.

[massacre man]

i always prefer to watch the original films, i've never watched a remake so i'm not sure they all suck. but even if the remake film is well-directed, i don't see a point to watch it. why should i waste my time with "A Nightmare on Elm Street" 2010 film while i have the 1984 one?

Watch "The Thing" and "The Departed" one isn't a horror movie, but they're great remakes.

[benim]

sure, remakes can be good. i don't deny that. actually i've watched "The Thing" but as i know it's not a full remake, it's a different adaptation. [i didn't like it btw. i expected something better]

[Meenie]

I think remakes are ok so long as they bring something new to the film unlike the 1998 remake of psycho, which was practicly a shot 4 shot remake.

[Despare]

i always prefer to watch the original films, i've never watched a remake so i'm not sure they all suck. but even if the remake film is well-directed, i don't see a point to watch it. why should i waste my time with "A Nightmare on Elm Street" 2010 film while i have the 1984 one?

I'm sure you've seen a few remakes without knowing they were remakes.



I can't believe there's a horror fan out there that hasn't seen The Thing nor can I believe you haven't seen a version of Frankenstein after 1910.

[Ferox13]

I'm sure you've seen a few remakes without knowing they were remakes.



I can't believe there's a horror fan out there that hasn't seen The Thing nor can I believe you haven't seen a version of Frankenstein after 1910.

Its really hard to call any Frankenstein film made after 1910 a remake of the Edison one - that version is very different than the source material (if i remember correctly) and the monster was created thru alchemy not science. If that ia your reasoning than every version of The Hound of the Baskervilles is a remake of the 1915 german film..

Also to be fair to the Thing it does include alot from the story tha wasn't in the 50's version (the original movie monster wasn't a shape shifter).

[Despare]

Its really hard to call any Frankenstein film made after 1910 a remake of the Edison one - that version is very different than the source material (if i remember correctly) and the monster was created thru alchemy not science.

You're right but it was still based off of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein so anything after it was still a sort of re-imagining/remake.

[benim]

I'm sure you've seen a few remakes without knowing they were remakes.

I can't believe there's a horror fan out there that hasn't seen The Thing nor can I believe you haven't seen a version of Frankenstein after 1910.

i've seen films based on well-known novels which inspired a lot of films. but none of these can be considered as "remake" like A Nightmare on Elm Street 2010 or Friday the 13th 2009. take "The Count of Monte Cristo" as example. a partial list of adaptations > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo_%28film%29

[Despare]

i've seen films based on well-known novels which inspired a lot of films. but none of these can be considered as "remake" like A Nightmare on Elm Street 2010 or Friday the 13th 2009. take "The Count of Monte Cristo" as example. a partial list of adaptations > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo_%28film%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes_A-M
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes_N-Z

You haven't seen a film on either of those lists?

[benim]

it's a quite long list so i can't look at them one by one. anyway, after i decide to see a film, i check if it's remake or not [i already explained my definition of a remake]. if it's a remake, then i see the original one. some originals i watched;

Black Christmas (1974) | Remade with same name (2006)
Funny Games (1997) | Remade as "Funny Games U.S." (2008)
Insomnia (1997) | Remade with same name (2002)
Nattevagten (1994) | Remade as "Nightwatch" (1997)
A Nightmare on Elm Street series
Friday the 13th series
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre series

[Despare]

it's a quite long list so i can't look at them one by one. anyway, after i decide to see a film, i check if it's remake or not [i already explained my definition of a remake]. if it's a remake, then i see the original one. some originals i watched;

Black Christmas (1974) | Remade with same name (2006)
Funny Games (1997) | Remade as "Funny Games U.S." (2008)
Insomnia (1997) | Remade with same name (2002)
Nattevagten (1994) | Remade as "Nightwatch" (1997)
A Nightmare on Elm Street series
Friday the 13th series
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre series

Just saying not to immediately jump in and say you've never watched a remake. Personally I check out both, but then again, I'm not closed minded.

[massacre man]

it's a quite long list so i can't look at them one by one. anyway, after i decide to see a film, i check if it's remake or not [i already explained my definition of a remake]. if it's a remake, then i see the original one. some originals i watched;

Black Christmas (1974) | Remade with same name (2006)
Funny Games (1997) | Remade as "Funny Games U.S." (2008)
Insomnia (1997) | Remade with same name (2002)
Nattevagten (1994) | Remade as "Nightwatch" (1997)
A Nightmare on Elm Street series
Friday the 13th series
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre series

Do you use stone wheels on you car?

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

just remember that somewhere in the world, this is someone's favorite movie:

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[ChronoGrl]

Watch "The Thing" and "The Departed" one isn't a horror movie, but they're great remakes.

The Departed was a remake? Or were just just being sarcastic... :confused:

[Ferox13]

The Departed was a remake? Or were just just being sarcastic... :confused:

Yeah it was a remake of the HK film 'Infernal Affairs'.

[benim]

Do you use stone wheels on you car?
do you use second hand wheels which were already used before?

Just saying not to immediately jump in and say you've never watched a remake. Personally I check out both, but then again, I'm not closed minded.
being close-minded is something else. like refusing to see film because of its country of origin, an actor/actess playing etc.

[Despare]

being close-minded is something else. like refusing to see film because of its country of origin, an actor/actess playing etc.

Those are just different reasons for being closed minded, such as not watching a film because it's a remake.

[Doc Faustus]

Lucky for us Hollywood isn't nearly smart enough to know what movies had actual merit so they can go back and ruin them. They'll mostly just deal with sacred cows from the 80s. The TCM thing pissed me off but I'm over it and Halloween was somebody actually trying to work with a new vision instead of just glossying up an older movie.

[Ferox13]

Has any one ever seen the 80's version of THE BAD SEED (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088766/)?

or Night of the Hunter with Richard Chamberlain (now thats a bad idea)..

[benim]

what to say. if you enjoy wasting your time for watching something you've already watched, i have no problem with that. that's your time and you can use it however you want. who can judge you?

i'm open-minded and spend my time to see things which are NEW to me, rather than repeating OLD ones.

[iSeymore]

Rob Zombie should be ashamed of himself. Of course he wouldn't know what shame meant. Part of the lure of Halloween was not knowing what made Michael Myers so evil. Zombie blew it by chalking it up to growing up in a dysfunctional family and having an abusive childhood. We can get that crap on Court TV every nite. He also took the character of Dr. Loomis and relegated him to a creep who would sell his mother for a book deal. I can only imagine the damage Zombie will do to his remake of the Blob.

Zombie also made a mess of Friday the 13th which would almost seem impossible. He made nearly every character so despicable the audience was literally cheering as Jason took them out.

We've also seen this in the remake of the Fog. Old Mr. Machem went from being a crusty old fisherman telling spooky campfire stories to being an alcoholic bum.

There should be laws for misfits like Zombie to be sued for tampering with classic horror movies.
Rob Zombie had nothing to do with the 2oo9 Friday the 13th movie, it was created and directed by the people who remade the Texas chainsaw Massacre. I personally liked the Halloween remake, and his own horror movies, House of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects. They were fantastic movies. Just opinions I guess.

[p1zl3]

actually i've watched "The Thing" but as i know it's not a full remake, it's a different adaptation. [i didn't like it btw. i expected something better]

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What!?!?

[Despare]

what to say. if you enjoy wasting your time for watching something you've already watched, i have no problem with that. that's your time and you can use it however you want. who can judge you?

i'm open-minded and spend my time to see things which are NEW to me, rather than repeating OLD ones.

You say you seek out the original first though, so you're not spending your time watching something you've already watched as you haven't seen either version. Your logic is not.

[ChronoGrl]

Yeah it was a remake of the HK film 'Infernal Affairs'.

Oh, cool - I'll have to check it out. Thanks!


Re: Remakes. I actually think that the American remake of The Grudge is better than the original. Then again, this is a singular case; The original Japanese Director Takashi Shimizu had a chance to direct the American version, so his hand was on both of them. I see the American remake as a great chance to edit out what was otherwise a bit rambling and unnecessary in the original. The scares are just as effective, the ghosts just as horrifying, and it cuts out the unnecessary parts. Same director, improving on his first run.

So remakes aren't always a bad thing. If they are legitimately trying to improve on the original or if they are trying to "re-envision" a concept (which is still considered improving on it), I think that they are totally justified.

[Despare]

Oh, cool - I'll have to check it out. Thanks!

If I'm not mistaken The Departed condenses all 3 off the Infernal Affairs into one so check em' all out. Good stuff.

[ChronoGrl]

Thanks, Des. I will. :D

I'm sure you've seen a few remakes without knowing they were remakes.



I can't believe there's a horror fan out there that hasn't seen The Thing nor can I believe you haven't seen a version of Frankenstein after 1910.

I want to pick on Des for a second here (and split some hairs)...

I consider "The Thing" to be just a second adaptation of Who Goes There?, and all Frankenstein movies are various adaptations of Mary Shelly's Frankenstein. As for various Wolf Man movies, however, THOSE I would consider remakes.

Thoughts?

...

Has any one ever seen the 80's version of THE BAD SEED (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088766/)?


Yeesh. Part of the horror of that film was the subject matter within the context of the time... A remake of it sounds ABYSMAL.

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Also - I think that this year's My Bloody Valenting 3D was not only a ridiculously fantastic remake, but an homage that completely venerated the genre... And the most fun I've probably had at the movies. Ever. Now THAT'S how you do a remake!

[neverending]

There are no remakes of the Wolf Man, until the one comes out this year.

[Despare]

I consider "The Thing" to be just a second adaptation of Who Goes There?, and all Frankenstein movies are various adaptations of Mary Shelly's Frankenstein. As for various Wolf Man movies, however, THOSE I would consider remakes.

Thoughts?


It depends, you'll have to ask the writers and directors if they based their films purely on the source material or referenced the first film made from said source for more inspiration. :p

[ChronoGrl]

There are no remakes of the Wolf Man, until the one comes out this year.

You're right; Maybe I was thinking of Phantom of the Opera? Is that a remake or an adaptation?

It depends, you'll have to ask the writers and directors if they based their films purely on the source material or referenced the first film made from said source for more inspiration. :p

Well, I'll go and do that then, next time I'm having lunch with John. :p

[roshiq]

There are no remakes of the Wolf Man, until the one comes out this year.

What? NEW MOON!?!:eek: it's releasing this year. [:D]

After watching the original Wolf Man lately just checked out the new Wolf Man (Releasing February 12, 2010) trailer on youtube...and I'm very curious about it...having such a great cast & settings I sincerely hope it'll turn out to be a great one too.