Werewolves vs. Vampires

[thunderf78]

this is a fight to the death who's side do you pick???
werewolf vs vampire

I pick werewolf because they are stronger and able to attack and hunt vampires in the daylight as well as the night!

[scouse mac]

Werewolves easy





Although I may not be viewed as impartial

[ferretchucker]

Werewolves only have a few hours every twenty eight days, but for the sake of argument I'll assume it's that night.

I would say the werewolf has a lot more power and could inflict a hell of a lot of damage, although it depends on the "rules" as such. If the werewolf is a mindless beast it could be tricked easily, and if the vampire could turn into a bat/ vanish/ could only be killed by a stake to the heart, it has a lot going for it.

I'm gonna say werewolf, but as I said, it depends on the "type" of werewolf/ vampire they are.

[Doc Faustus]

Werewolves easily. Especially werewolves from the World of Darkness games.

[The_Return]

Depends on if this is just a mano-a-mano brawl, or an ongoing feud.

If we're talking hand to hand combat, the vampire is fucked, no questions asked. But if he has time to wait things out, the werewolf is out of luck.

[crabapple]

Both are tough and good with their claws and fangs. When werewolves and vampires tangle, they generally both walk away, but everything in the room/house/castle is wrecked and the furniture isn't even good enough for the Goodwill store. There's usually lots of tufts of fur all over everything, too. It's like two cats fighting...a lot of MRRRRROWWWW HISSSSSSS and then WHAP! WHAP! WHOOPAH!

[bwind22]

I'm surprised by the answers so far.

You guys all think a werewolf would beat a vampire? What are you? Retarded?

Vampires has super human strength, the ability to fly and the ability to reason.

Werewolves are essentially very large, wild animals that would never be able to figure out how to kill a vampire.

Vampire would kill a werewolf without any trouble at all. In fact, I'd go so far as to say a vampire could probably kill a whole pack of werewolves without much trouble.

[neverending]

Just think if the werewolf bit the vampire- he could turn into a vampiric werewolf. I'm surprised this has never been done before. Or has it? Or vice versa- say a vampire bites a werewolf in its human form, and the next night it happens to be a full moon...

[_____V_____]

Howling VI had such a scene of a werewolf biting a vampire. However, nothing happened.

I think NE just gave an idea to the makers of Underworld, for their fourth flick.

As regards the debate, I ll deviate from the rest and say vampire. Never seen a werewolf make a beeline for a vampire's heart with a stake, plus the ability to turn into rats, smoke/mist, bats etc. makes the vampire pretty formidable.

However fast the werewolf may be, the vampire is a smarter creature.

[neverending]

And if a vampire had a silver dagger, he could stab & kill a werewolf.

[Azazel005]

Werewolves easily. Especially werewolves from the World of Darkness games.

I am forced to back world of Darkness on this one myself. Very fleshed world, with some very powerful vampires but one on one, Werewolves tear vampires into teeny little bits.

Technically speaking the vampires are much more deadly, they control most aspects of the world and werewolves tend to linger on the outskirts but in a typical bloodthirsty battle the wolfies come up trumps.

[bwind22]

No offense to anyone in particular.

Seriously, some of you are very cool, in general terms. But besides V & NE, the rest of you happen to to be retarded on this issue.

I know, I know... It's a lighthearted internet poll, but honestly...

You're retarded.

A werewolf could kill a vampire? Seriously?




The fact that anyone can actually entertain that concept is just plain retarded.

Like I mentioned and that being said... some of you are cool. I don't think you are tards , but on this particular issue, I do think your viewpoint/opinion is crazy to the point of stupidity/retardation.






(*Disclaimer: No offense to the real retards of the world. I'm sure the majority of you could correctly determine the victor of this battle.)

[_____V_____]

And if a vampire had a silver dagger, he could stab & kill a werewolf.

Exactly. A vampire is in control of its senses, a werewolf isnt. Its just a killing machine (ala the Alien).

The one thing which makes the vampire more deadly than the werewolf is its ability to think and reason, IMO. Besides all those which I stated earlier.

[scouse mac]

And if a vampire had a silver dagger, he could stab & kill a werewolf.


If the lycanthrope had eaten a slice of garlic bread before changing into wolf form and then breathes on the vampire, that would destroy him.

The way I imagined this was a cage fight to the death between the werewolf in full form and the vamp and there is only one winner. Sure, there is reason versus instinct which is a fair point, but I just cant see the power and violence of the wolf being matched.

Its quite a good question really, but you would have to determine which 'rules' are used, by that I mean which supernatural powers does each have as you could debate over that for a while.



@bwind: I am soooooooooo not a 'tard, man ;)

[neverending]

I wasn't thinking along the lines of a "cage match" but more if these beings came in contact with each other in their lives- what could happen. All sorts of possibilities.

I'm thinking more about my previous question, and might do something with that- imagine a werewolf also possessed by bloodlust- or a vampire with bestial characteristics...

The original Dark Shadows has a vampire and a werewolf- to bad they never fought each other.

[scouse mac]

I wasn't thinking along the lines of a "cage match" but more if these beings came in contact with each other in their lives- what could happen. All sorts of possibilities.

I'm thinking more about my previous question, and might do something with that- imagine a werewolf also possessed by bloodlust you may have to allow the wolf to reason like a vamp otherwise it would just be instinctive brutality- or a vampire with bestial characteristics...

The original Dark Shadows has a vampire and a werewolf- to bad they never fought each other.


I remember playing an RPG, called Vampire I think, where if the vamp had been attacked by a werewolf they couldnt heal the wounds. They had to ingest alot of blood to recover and I think that was in my mind.

The fact the Underworld films arent being referenced says alot about them!

[crabapple]

Guys, *everyone knows* that when werewolves and vampires fight, the vampire goes into a feral mode, causing it to lose a portion of its reasoning power. Werewolves are pretty fast, and "thinking" doesn't help the vampire much in these situations.

Plus, no one has stopped to consider that vampires and werewolves are TOTALLY FICTIONAL and you could make up any old rules you want for them. Therefore, vampires and werewolves = totally cool monsters.

[crabapple]

The fact the Underworld films arent being referenced says alot about them!


Yes! That is damn right.

[Doc Faustus]

Exactly. A vampire is in control of its senses, a werewolf isnt. Its just a killing machine (ala the Alien).

The one thing which makes the vampire more deadly than the werewolf is its ability to think and reason, IMO. Besides all those which I stated earlier.

Werewolves are only sometimes in wolf form.

[newb]

I think we should throw an angry chimp into the fray.......see who would win.:D

[Rayne]

Vampires has super human strength, the ability to fly and the ability to reason.
Kinda like Bruce Lee, right?

Werewolves are essentially very large, wild animals that would never be able to figure out how to kill a vampire.
Sounds like an angry chimp



Sorry, that was the first thing that came to mind when I read your post :p :D

[_____V_____]

Werewolves are only sometimes in wolf form.

True. And in human form, he is no match.

Another point in favor of the vampire.

And even in the feral state, the vampire does not stop thinking with reasoning completely. When it is a fight to the death or when its cornered with no other way to beat its opponent, the vampire will do everything in its power to survive.

I forgot another key power of the vampire - hypnosis. It can be very effective, especially when the werewolf gets powerless when the moon goes down.

It all comes down to brains vs brawn in the end, IMO. And there, the vampire has the larger slice of the cake.

[crabapple]

I think we should throw an angry chimp into the fray.......see who would win.:D

Aw, heck, an angry chimp would beat the hell out of both of them. The chimp would take the vampire out first--he would grab the vampire's arm as the vampire was reaching for him, and swing the vampire right into the nearest wall, impaling him on the broken boards sticking out of the wall. Then it would shove a silver candlestick down the werewolf's throat. Then it would jump up and down on both of them and screech a lot. ;)

[bwind22]

The parallels between Vampire vs. Werewolf and Bruce Lee vs. Angry Chimp are uncanny. I never looked at it like that but it's true & I'm glad it was pointed out.

Just like I'm sure Bruce Lee would fuck up an Angry Chimp, a Vampire would fuck up a Werewolf.

[Doc Faustus]

True. And in human form, he is no match.

Another point in favor of the vampire.

And even in the feral state, the vampire does not stop thinking with reasoning completely. When it is a fight to the death or when its cornered with no other way to beat its opponent, the vampire will do everything in its power to survive.

I forgot another key power of the vampire - hypnosis. It can be very effective, especially when the werewolf gets powerless when the moon goes down.

It all comes down to brains vs brawn in the end, IMO. And there, the vampire has the larger slice of the cake.

if it came down to a melee confrontation in the dead of night between a werewolf in wolf form and a vampire, the werewolf would possibly lose, but werewolves can stake a vampire during the day. The capacity to engage in daylight operations is important. Human beings kill vampires all the time in movies because of the capacity to exploit this vulnerability and as werewolves are essentially human, they too can. Vampires can be killed by several things, werewolves can be killed by one. Werewolves can be repulsed by wolfsbane, vampires can be repulsed by crosses, garlic and running water. The werewolf is the stronger contender. And if a vampire confronts a werewolf during the fullmoon, the vampire will probably get mauled to the point of paralysis and torn limb from limb. Hypnosis on an 8 foot tall rampaging wolfgod? Come on! There isn't enough mind to control during this time.

[ferretchucker]

Wow. Crabapple made probably the most sensible post (#17) in the thread. I feel so...dirty.

:p

In a cage fight I'd say a Werewolf.

In a fight through a town I'd say a Vampire.


As a human I'd rather be up against a Vampire. You could implore them to turn you into a creature of the night. With a werewolf you have no chance.

[massacre man]

Well, in a "fight to the death" the werewolf would automatically win, since vampire's are already dead, right?

[Posher778]

Can we be more specific with what TYPE of vampire and werewolf? There are many different views.

Dog Soldiers wolves would DOMINATE vampires, but the werewolf from Cursed would get owned. It's all about variation. Some vampires are depicted inaccurately. IMO the best depiction was in From Dusk Til' Dawn. Vampies are supposed to be trashy renegades who hang out and cause trouble, and neck pain. Not the classy, leather clad types we see in most flicks.

Of course everyone has a different view, just sharing mine.

[Zero]

Kinda like Bruce Lee, right?
Sounds like an angry chimp






*ahem*


(and for the record - i would slaughter vampires by flinging my garlic infused pooh at them!)

[Posher778]

Who would win:


Freddy Vs Jason?! Like omg.




Just kidding :D

[Zero]

WHat If Like JasOn Had a ChainSaw thAt waS StiCKing oUt Of hiS ButT and tHEn FrEddY wEnt to BUGger Jason but haD hIS WeinER CutT OfF - ThAT WOulD Be AWeSoME

[Doc Faustus]

What if Freddy got a job in the city morgue and when was making rounds he discovered his own body? And then he tore up the death certificate and laughed and then laid down on the gurney?

[neverending]

if it came down to a melee confrontation in the dead of night between a werewolf in wolf form and a vampire, the werewolf would possibly lose, but werewolves can stake a vampire during the day.

Can the human half of a werewolf remember what the wolf half knows? In most cases, no. So the human half of the werewolf would have no idea a vampire is hunting it, so he wouldn't know to go stake it.

[Azazel005]

Of course there is scores of different lores one could follow in interpretting the combat prowess of the relative contenders. We could pick the highest end Lumley Vampire who can forge monsters through flesh and is virtually unkillable even if completely dismembered vs some wanky twilight incarnation of a werewold which I assume would be a piss weak critter.

The most popular and well constructed lore that includes both that I know is World of Darkness in which both are very very powerful beings and physically a Vampire stands a flat rating zero change against a Werewolf.

As far as we can assume across the vast majority of lores the vampire would still need to go so far as be prepared and properly equiped to kill a werewolf, a werewolf would not have to go so far.

So hey providing the vampire has got his Wolfie hunting kit, sure he may have the edge but if they are heading out too dinner on a full moon and cross paths unprepared, down goes fangy.

[neverending]

Well, I'm using my old Creepy & Eerie magazines as source material, not your Johnny come lately gen x crap. :mad:

[_____V_____]

if it came down to a melee confrontation in the dead of night between a werewolf in wolf form and a vampire, the werewolf would possibly lose, but werewolves can stake a vampire during the day.

Considering that the human part of the werewolf doesnt remember much of what happened "last night", I doubt it. Plus, vampires hide their bodies pretty well.


The capacity to engage in daylight operations is important. Human beings kill vampires all the time in movies because of the capacity to exploit this vulnerability and as werewolves are essentially human, they too can.

If the vampire is essentially not a "daywalker" then yes, this is a pretty big vulnerability it has. But I stand with my point above - does the werewolf in human form remember what it was upto "last night"?


Vampires can be killed by several things, werewolves can be killed by one. Werewolves can be repulsed by wolfsbane, vampires can be repulsed by crosses, garlic and running water. The werewolf is the stronger contender.

Thats very true, but how many werewolves run around with crosses, garlic and running water after transformation? Even if they got those in their human form and waited for the full moon for their morphing, I dont see how they ll recognise and know the relevance of those things near them once they are transformed. The rage inside them will make them start running towards their nearest prey to rip them to shreds.


And if a vampire confronts a werewolf during the fullmoon, the vampire will probably get mauled to the point of paralysis and torn limb from limb.

Killing something which is already dead wont be plausible. The vampire will come back.

And get hold of what? Mist? Rats? Even a big bat which is flying 1000 feet up in the sky? The werewolf has to get hold of the vampire first. And a vampire in feral state with only 50% of his reasoning and cunning abilities, is still a much smarter creature than the werewolf.


Hypnosis on an 8 foot tall rampaging wolfgod? Come on! There isn't enough mind to control during this time.

See what I replied before?

I forgot another key power of the vampire - hypnosis. It can be very effective, especially when the werewolf gets powerless when the moon goes down.

The werewolf maybe damn near impossible to beat when the full moon is high, but when the moon starts waning, it grows weak. Contrary to the powers of the vampire, which are not dependent on the moon. Being a creature of the night, any night out of the 30 days in the month or 365 days of the year is booming time for it.

We all love werewolf movies a lot, but we revere Dracula for this precise reason. I dont think that even the most powerful werewolf of the world is anywhere near a match, much less a close match, for the Prince of Darkness.

[Azazel005]

Considering that the human part of the werewolf doesnt remember much of what happened "last night", I doubt it. Plus, vampires hide their bodies pretty well.




If the vampire is essentially not a "daywalker" then yes, this is a pretty big vulnerability it has. But I stand with my point above - does the werewolf in human form remember what it was upto "last night"?


Thats very true, but how many werewolves run around with crosses, garlic and running water after transformation? Even if they got those in their human form and waited for the full moon for their morphing, I dont see how they ll recognise and know the relevance of those things near them once they are transformed. The rage inside them will make them start running towards their nearest prey to rip them to shreds.




Killing something which is already dead wont be plausible. The vampire will come back.

And get hold of what? Mist? Rats? Even a big bat which is flying 1000 feet up in the sky? The werewolf has to get hold of the vampire first. And a vampire in feral state with only 50% of his reasoning and cunning abilities, is still a much smarter creature than the werewolf.




See what I replied before?



The werewolf maybe damn near impossible to beat when the full moon is high, but when the moon starts waning, it grows weak. Contrary to the powers of the vampire, which are not dependent on the moon. Being a creature of the night, any night out of the 30 days in the month or 365 days of the year is booming time for it.

We all love werewolf movies a lot, but we revere Dracula for this precise reason. I dont think that even the most powerful werewolf of the world is anywhere near a match, much less a close match, for the Prince of Darkness.

It's heavily dependant on a much larger body of work that one is drawing a vampire's powers from. Additionally how far we take the idea of a "fight".

I am pretty sure I can take out the current UFC champion if I wait for him to fall asleep and burn his house down, though I wouldn't classify it as uch of a "fight".

How many vampires run around with an ample collection of silver objects for that matter?

The fact really being as far as I can assume from whatever pop cultures references I have to draw on, can a vampire defeat a werewolf? Yeah if he is properly prepared to take advantages of his weaknesses. Forcing us to pre-suppose he can sufficiently gain access to the correct weapons, and/or track the werewolf capably during the nights when the moon is not full.

Can a werewolf beat a vampire, yeah in all circumstances but the above and in anything that I consider a stand up fight, mythos dependant.

Well, I'm using my old Creepy & Eerie magazines as source material, not your Johnny come lately gen x crap. :mad:

At least then the Vampire could hide his silver under his generous black and red cape!

[bwind22]

A werewolf would not have the ability to figure out that it needs a stake, garlic, crucifix or holy water to kill a vampire therefore the werewolf stands 0% chance of killing the vampire.

That fact alone should render this discussion obsolete, but somehow the majority of you seem to suffer from a complete lack of logic.


How about Bruce Lee with nunchuks vs. an enraged Werewolf?

[Posher778]

Problem is... Most vampires are pompous, and usually get their asses kicked for it. Per Van Helsing.

[roshiq]

all depends on the writer who he'd let win in the final fight of a story/film.

[neverending]

all depends on the writer who he'd let win in the final fight of a story/film.

No no no- we're talking about a real vampire & werewolf!

[crabapple]

Yes yes--a REAL vampire and a REAL werewolf! When they fight in real life--who shall win! And what of the chimp! He is real too, as real as they...! I still put money on the chimp.

[_____V_____]

How many vampires run around with an ample collection of silver objects for that matter?

Obviously you didnt read Doc's reply and my reply to him correctly. Read those two posts again.

[Doc Faustus]

[QUOTE=_____V_____;805761]


Thats very true, but how many werewolves run around with crosses, garlic and running water after transformation? Even if they got those in their human form and waited for the full moon for their morphing, I dont see how they ll recognise and know the relevance of those things near them once they are transformed. The rage inside them will make them start running towards their nearest prey to rip them to shreds.




/QUOTE]

There is more of a chance of incidentally encountering an item vampires are vulnerable to then encountering one werewolves are vulnerable to. Running water could be anywhere, the scent of garlic could hang in the air near a restaurant dumpster, churchbells ring quite frequently. It's also not altogether unlikely depending upon the identity of the werewolf that they might have a cross on them at the time of transformation. If the werewolf is the sort that maintains some degree of intelligence during the change World of Darkness werewolves being an example, uprooting a fence post and impaling a vampire on it is not altogether impossible. Also, vampires sometimes take time to heal from being thoroughly mauled and dismembered.

[ferretchucker]

This is giving me an idea that may come to light in a few months...

[_____V_____]

There is more of a chance of incidentally encountering an item vampires are vulnerable to then encountering one werewolves are vulnerable to. Running water could be anywhere, the scent of garlic could hang in the air near a restaurant dumpster, churchbells ring quite frequently. It's also not altogether unlikely depending upon the identity of the werewolf that they might have a cross on them at the time of transformation. If the werewolf is the sort that maintains some degree of intelligence during the change World of Darkness werewolves being an example, uprooting a fence post and impaling a vampire on it is not altogether impossible. Also, vampires sometimes take time to heal from being thoroughly mauled and dismembered.

Agreed.

But its more unlikely that werewolves have some sort of memories left in them of their "human" form after fully transformed. So that is a real shot in the dark.

I havent read World of Darkness yet so I cannot comment on it (or exemplify by it). All of my arguments are based solely on - A) Stoker's portrayal of Dracula, B) Vampire and werewolf folklore and stories in literary fiction, and C) Media influences.

Although I must admit the media, specially movies, have watered down Dracula (and even other vampires, for that matter) considerably. Stoker's Dracula was a much, MUCH more powerful creature of the night. The lines with which Stoker has drawn his most popular character, draw a very powerful and monstrous creature than the one we have seen in movies, specially in the later modern versions.


His face was a strong, a very strong, aquiline, with high bridge of the thin nose and peculiarly arched nostrils; with lofty domed forehead, and hair growing scantily round the temples, but profusely elsewhere. His eyebrows were very massive, almost meeting over the nose, and with bushy hair that seemed to curl in its own profusion. The mouth, so far as I could see it under the heavy moustache, was fixed and rather cruel looking, with peculiarly sharp white teeth; these protruded over the lips, whose remarkable ruddiness showed astonishing vitality in a man of his years. For the rest, his ears were pale and at the tops extremely pointed; the chin was broad and strong, and the cheeks firm though thin. The general effect was one of extraordinary pallor.

– Jonathan Harker's Journal, Dracula, Chapter 2



There lay the Count, but looking as if his youth had been half restored. For the white hair and moustache were changed to dark iron-grey. The cheeks were fuller, and the white skin seemed ruby-red underneath. The mouth was redder than ever, for on the lips were gouts of fresh blood, which trickled from the corners of the mouth and ran down over the chin and neck. Even the deep, burning eyes seemed set amongst swollen flesh, for the lids and pouches underneath were bloated. It seemed as if the whole awful creature were simply gorged with blood. He lay like a filthy leech, exhausted with his repletion.

– Jonathan Harker's Journal, Dracula, Chapter 4


Just reading those descriptions send a shiver down my spine. Too bad the movies havent been as faithful to Stoker's images as they should have, except in a selected few outings of Chris Lee. And Shreck and Lugosi, but of course.

[Doc Faustus]

I would like to see a faithful Dracula. Lee comes the closest. He's clearly a barbarian and a predator, while other Draculas forget that this is a guy descended from Attilla the Hun.

[_____V_____]

I would like to see a faithful Dracula. Lee comes the closest. He's clearly a barbarian and a predator, while other Draculas forget that this is a guy descended from Attilla the Hun.

Yeh.

Too bad people only know the guy from watching forgettables like Van Helsing or Dracula 2000, even Blade Trinity. Blade beat Dracula?! Oi Vey! :rolleyes:

[bwind22]

I would like to see a faithful Dracula. Lee comes the closest. He's clearly a barbarian and a predator, while other Draculas forget that this is a guy descended from Attilla the Hun.


You mean Vlad the Impaler?


And I agree. No one has gotten the brutality right. Too many directors want to make him some lonely, lovelorn pussy. Personally, I thought Dracula 2000 came closest.

[Doc Faustus]

Stoker's Dracula also makes mention of descent from Atilla.

[ferretchucker]

WTF? u guyz r stupid. evry1 knows dat dracula is ment 2 b classy and calm all da time and neva get relly angry. duh. omg

[The Flayed One]

So let's take into account that when a werewolf dies, it rises again as a vampire according to some lore. This gives the vampire the inside scoop on how a werewolf would act, but gives the werewolf a second chance to come back and try again.

[Doc Faustus]

I've always found that the most hilarious cause of vampirism, with the exception of falling off the left side of a haywagon.

[Kris-Khaos]

haha, easily werewolves. deffinatley.:p

[bwind22]

Stoker's Dracula also makes mention of descent from Atilla.

Oh I got ya. ;) Dracula was inspired by Vlad, descended from Attila. My mistake. I misread what you were saying there.

[urgeok2]

chuck norris would win.

[scouse mac]

chuck norris would win.


Is that vampire Chuck or werewolf Chuck?


My money will be on werewolf Chuck, hes already got the hair after all

[ferretchucker]

I believe in a fight between two Chuck Norris'


He'd still win.

[Doc Faustus]

The ice age occurred because Chuck Norris thought the Sun was lookin' at him funny.

[scouse mac]

I believe in a fight between two Chuck Norris'


He'd still win.


Both would win............................................... .











....................... cos Chuck dont lose

[Posher778]

Werewolves also have primal, animal hunting instinct. And nature always takes its course. 100% of the time.

[Azazel005]

Obviously you didnt read Doc's reply and my reply to him correctly. Read those two posts again.

Well, Doc illustrated a disparity in the kinds of objects the two creatures were vulnerable too. You mention the fact that a werewolf was unlikely to be carrying such objects specifically and/or was unlikely to realize their significance after a transformation.

I felt it quite pertinent to mention that it was equally unlikely that a Vampire would be carrying the relevant object.

The fact that it may or may not be useful is a question of whichever lore one gives credence too. In some lore the werewolf would be perfectly capable of using some of those things, though that is about as equal as the amount of lore with those vulnerabilities a little more then an irritation to a vampire.

So thank you V, I did read the post, and I still thinks it's equally relevant that neither are likely to be carrying the object incidentally. Not least of which, silver would not be obtained incidentally in amounts that would be useful as a weapon. The vampire would certainly have to go out of their way to procure them.

[ferretchucker]

Werewolves also have primal, animal hunting instinct. And nature always takes its course. 100% of the time.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p255/ferretchucker/jeff_goldblum.jpg

[_____V_____]

See, thats why I said you didnt read the initial posts. I am glad you went back and did exactly that. :)

[Posher778]

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p255/ferretchucker/jeff_goldblum.jpg

*Pulls out a trumpet and blasts the main riff of the Jurassic Park theme*

[Elvis_Christ]

I always think of The Fly when I see him.

[Posher778]

I always think 'gross' when I see him.

[Elvis_Christ]

I always think 'gross' when I see him.

:D .................

[fuglystick]

Which do you prefer?

Myself, I find werewolves more interesting. They don't have the religious overtones of vampires, and are psychologically more intriguing. A werewolf represents the base nature of humanity, man's nature unleashed in its most primitive form; unchecked by, even counter to, the framework of civilization.

Plus, they don't have to wear ruffled shirts or listen to techno-music.

[_____V_____]

***bump***

[fuglystick]

Well, shit, I did a search and didn't find this thread. My bad.

P.S.--Werewolves are way cooler. And a werewolf would beat a vampire for the same reason a 120 pound dog can defeat a 200+ pound man--pure feral savagery. A man may be smarter than a German Shepard, but can't match the dog for ferocity and natural tools. Werewolves are fearless, while vampires are conscious of their vulnerabilities, and even the limitations of their "immortality," therefore susceptible to fear.

[sfear]

After reading the mini-series SUPERMAN AND BATMAN VS VAMPIRES AND WEREWOLVES I can't decide. They're both mean and cool.

[Ferox13]

Plus, they don't have to wear ruffled shirts or listen to techno-music.

Tell that to this guy:

http://www.therealjohnwu.com/images/gallery/art/personal/horror/Mr_Vampire.jpg

[crash]

I just never got into the whole Ware wolves thing. I've seen tons of great vampire movies... But the only wolf movie I ever got into was "Teen Wolf" with Michael Jay Fox, lol. I guess maybe it's just a personal preference...

[Elvis_Christ]

So you didn't like American Werewolf In London or The Howling? Those two ruled and Wolfen wasn't to bad either.

[Ferox13]

So you didn't like American Werewolf In London or The Howling? Those two ruled and Wolfen wasn't to bad either.

Not to mention Curse of the Werewolf and The Wolfman (and a whole rake of Paul Naschy films)

[Elvis_Christ]

Not to mention Curse of the Werewolf and The Wolfman (and a whole rake of Paul Naschy films)

For sure. But with the crap that resides on video store shelves these days people miss out on a lot of cool/classic flicks. Good stores are few and far between since DVD took over completely.

[zombie ash]

fucking werewolfs for sure. FUCKING GAY ASS VAMPIRES. to queer for my taste. and the fact about vampires not being able to go into the sun is dumb as shit.
werewolfs are just much more brutal.

[fuglystick]

I'm astounded that the werewolves are so far ahead of the vampires in this very unscientific poll. Is it backlash for the over exposure of vampires? Or is it a genuine preference for the werewolves?

It also occurred to me--not an original observation, I'm sure--that werewolves and vampires represent different extremes of the psyche. Werewolves are the id left unchecked, and vampires are the super ego left unchecked (not exclusively, and not always). Werewolves are still living and still mortal, generally, but are humans reduced to their most primitive instincts. Vampires are dead, and yet their minds live on eternally, generally, and in most depictions do not consider themselves human anymore; in fact, many times they consider themselves the superiors of humans through a kind of evolution.