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Freak
07-22-2009, 11:30 AM
As some of you may know I love animals and I'm aware alot fo you do also.I've been hearing about alot of animal abuse cases lately,like the Ringling Bros. Circus trainers beating there elephants for no reason.Whish is true because I watched the video and it's realy sad.

When I see or hear stuff like that I also wished I was there so I could jump in and stop it.Well today I finally got the chance to jump and in and protect and save an animal that couldn't speak up for it's self.


I've been in a bit of a fued of sorts with a neighbor down the street for a few months now on the way he treats his dog.He keeps it chained up in the backyard and the poor thing looks starved to death.When he first got he had it in the backyard with no shelter of any kind.One night it was storming really bad.High winds, thunder, and lighting.I called the animal shetler and the police and they made him get a doghouse for it.But the neglect continued.Then a few weeks ago the dog died.I assume from starvation.


Then last week the bastard got another puppy.Couldn't have been more than two months old.I was shocked.why would somebody who can't take care of one dog get another?Well this morning I went out the my car and I hear the puppy yealping really loud and i hear the guy screaming at it for getting off its chain,whcih in fact is a little piece of flimsy nylon rope.I walk over and this guy is just beating this poor puppy over and over again with a stick.I yell at the guy and ask him what he's doing and he says for me to mind my own fucking buisness.I yell back ans say fuck you,thats not nessacary.He says it's his dog and he'll do what he wants with it and strikes him two more times while staring right at me.At this point I lose it and just charge the guy at full force.We end up on the ground throwing fists at each other.we shuffle for a few minutes then the cops show up and break us up.After statements and stories are took down the cops call the animal shelter and have them take the puppy from the man.I didn't get arrested casue the guy said he didn't wanna press charges which I'm sure there's gonna be alot more trouble with this guy down the road.And he no longer has the puppy cause the animal shelter came and got it.And I've already talked to a freind and there going to adopt the puppy and I know they'll give it a great home.


One more thing.What is the point of having a dog if your gonna keep it chained up in the backyard? i see this in alot of places.People tell me they do it for protection.Whats that dog goning to protect beside the little radius he can go with his chain.I've always had dogs and they have always been inside dogs.

So how does everyone else feel about animals and animal abuse?

hammerfan
07-22-2009, 11:34 AM
Dude, I give you a standing ovation for your bravery and standing up for that poor, defenseless little puppy!!!!

I also would totally snap if I ever saw someone abusing an animal. Except, I'd probably end up in jail because I'd kill them.

Posher778
07-22-2009, 11:38 AM
I love my dog. If anyone ever hurt her I would annihilate them. I know how you feel, and your actions were totally justified. Speaking of puppy, shes asleep with her head on my foot, so I can't move. =\

Abominus
07-22-2009, 11:57 AM
It took courage to stand up for someone that couldn't protect themselves. it says a lot about your character. Too many people would turn their heads and try to ignore/forget what is going on around them.

To me animal abuse is right up there with child abuse. It's an innocent and generally defenseless creature being tortured needlessly.

Freak, at this moment you're a hero. Keep yourself safe.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
07-22-2009, 12:01 PM
hurray for assault

lucky he didn't press charges, I don't understand why he wouldn't.

I would never risk my life for an animal, that's just retarded.

Posher778
07-22-2009, 12:03 PM
hurray for assault

lucky he didn't press charges, I don't understand why he wouldn't.

Freak probably threatened him with a mean look.

Freak
07-22-2009, 12:06 PM
hurray for assault

lucky he didn't press charges, I don't understand why he wouldn't.

Like I said earlier, this is most likely just the beginning of the trouble I'm gonna have with this guy now.I just have to keep a close eye on my house,car and most of all my dog.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
07-22-2009, 12:07 PM
Like I said earlier, this is most likely just the beginning of the trouble I'm gonna have with this guy now.I just have to keep a close eye on my house,car and most of all my dog.

have fun with that.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
07-22-2009, 12:08 PM
Freak probably threatened him with a mean look.

don't underestimate the power of the mean look

Papillon Noir
07-22-2009, 12:12 PM
It took courage to stand up for someone that couldn't protect themselves. it says a lot about your character. Too many people would turn their heads and try to ignore/forget what is going on around them.

To me animal abuse is right up there with child abuse. It's an innocent and generally defenseless creature being tortured needlessly.

Freak, at this moment you're a hero. Keep yourself safe.

Well said. Good job, Freak. That was very brave. :)

ferretchucker
07-22-2009, 12:18 PM
Three cheers!

Hats off to you, Freak, you did one hell of a good thing. Guy sounds like a total bastard. Expect some key marks on your car.

But once again, well done man. I would have loved to see that guy get his arse kicked.

Roderick Usher
07-22-2009, 12:20 PM
hurray for assault

lucky he didn't press charges, I don't understand why he wouldn't.

I would never risk my life for an animal, that's just retarded.

exactly

hitting a human is less rational than hitting an animal

Freak
07-22-2009, 12:29 PM
exactly

hitting a human is less rational than hitting an animal

I'd punch a human a million time's before I'd ever hit an animal.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
07-22-2009, 12:37 PM
I'd punch a human a million time's before I'd ever hit an animal.

would you rather be a dog than a human?

The_Return
07-22-2009, 12:40 PM
exactly

hitting a human is less rational than hitting an animal

Hitting an animal for no reason at all, versus hitting a human to stand up for something you believe in?

Failing to follow the logic here.

Freak
07-22-2009, 12:41 PM
would you rather be a dog than a human?

No but I have more respect and caring for animals than humans.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
07-22-2009, 12:44 PM
No but I have more respect and caring for animals than humans.

and why is that?

Freak
07-22-2009, 12:50 PM
and why is that?

Humans are vile and sick creatures who hurt one another out of hate or fun.Animals dont kill for fun or out of hate.They do it for survival.If you show a dog nothing but love that's all you'll get in return.

Disease
07-22-2009, 12:51 PM
What if a strange dog come up and attacked you, you would have to hit it and kick it and do whatever else... That's probably your worst nightmare.

But you know, good for you for saving the animal from a life of turture if thats what you did.

Freak
07-22-2009, 12:55 PM
What if a strange dog come up and attacked you, you would have to hit it and kick it and do whatever else... That's probably your worst nightmare.

But you know, good for you for saving the animal from a life of turture if thats what you did.

There's a big difference between self defense and just being cruel.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
07-22-2009, 12:58 PM
are you a sick and vile creature?

Animals dont kill for fun or out of hate.They do it for survival.

not true, ever own a cat?

If you show a dog nothing but love that's all you'll get in return.

maybe you just like the fact that you can brainwash a dog into "loving you" but you can't do that to a human.

personally, I think cruelty to animals starts by owning one as a pet anyway. would you want to live like that? they belong in the wild.

Freak
07-22-2009, 01:17 PM
So you would be comfortable with wild,rabid animals running the streets.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
07-22-2009, 01:19 PM
So you would be comfortable with wild,rabid animals running the streets.

well if they wandered from the wild, hopefully they would be shot quickly.

ferretchucker
07-22-2009, 01:26 PM
I think the difference between hitting an animal and hitting a human is that a lot of the time you can't explain to an animal why you're hitting it. You can show them, like if it was because it destroyed the furniture, but you can't explain to them why that's a bad thing.

Ferox13
07-22-2009, 02:04 PM
Humans are vile and sick creatures who hurt one another out of hate or fun.Animals dont kill for fun or out of hate.They do it for survival.If you show a dog nothing but love that's all you'll get in return.

You've obviously never seen a cat in action.

But to be fair in that situation I would have done something - maybe not punching some one straight off the bat would be a good idea but I don't think I'd let it go.

I don't think it's putting an animal over a person either. If some one was damaging your property then you'd do something too. My car/bike etc might not be worth more than a human live but i sure as hell aren't going to sit by and let some one steal or damage it..

Dante'sInferno
07-22-2009, 02:45 PM
As some of you may know I love animals and I'm aware alot fo you do also.I've been hearing about alot of animal abuse cases lately,like the Ringling Bros. Circus trainers beating there elephants for no reason.Whish is true because I watched the video and it's realy sad.

When I see or hear stuff like that I also wished I was there so I could jump in and stop it.Well today I finally got the chance to jump and in and protect and save an animal that couldn't speak up for it's self.


I've been in a bit of a fued of sorts with a neighbor down the street for a few months now on the way he treats his dog.He keeps it chained up in the backyard and the poor thing looks starved to death.When he first got he had it in the backyard with no shelter of any kind.One night it was storming really bad.High winds, thunder, and lighting.I called the animal shetler and the police and they made him get a doghouse for it.But the neglect continued.Then a few weeks ago the dog died.I assume from starvation.


Then last week the bastard got another puppy.Couldn't have been more than two months old.I was shocked.why would somebody who can't take care of one dog get another?Well this morning I went out the my car and I hear the puppy yealping really loud and i hear the guy screaming at it for getting off its chain,whcih in fact is a little piece of flimsy nylon rope.I walk over and this guy is just beating this poor puppy over and over again with a stick.I yell at the guy and ask him what he's doing and he says for me to mind my own fucking buisness.I yell back ans say fuck you,thats not nessacary.He says it's his dog and he'll do what he wants with it and strikes him two more times while staring right at me.At this point I lose it and just charge the guy at full force.We end up on the ground throwing fists at each other.we shuffle for a few minutes then the cops show up and break us up.After statements and stories are took down the cops call the animal shelter and have them take the puppy from the man.I didn't get arrested casue the guy said he didn't wanna press charges which I'm sure there's gonna be alot more trouble with this guy down the road.And he no longer has the puppy cause the animal shelter came and got it.And I've already talked to a freind and there going to adopt the puppy and I know they'll give it a great home.


One more thing.What is the point of having a dog if your gonna keep it chained up in the backyard? i see this in alot of places.People tell me they do it for protection.Whats that dog goning to protect beside the little radius he can go with his chain.I've always had dogs and they have always been inside dogs.

So how does everyone else feel about animals and animal abuse?

I really hate people like that. I don't know what I would do in that situation. I know I would be extremely pissed off. I would have probably called someone to have his dog taken away from him. It would suck to be in that situation though.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
07-22-2009, 03:40 PM
II would have probably called someone to have his dog taken away from him.

I would have done the same.

Elvis_Christ
07-22-2009, 04:12 PM
But to be fair in that situation I would have done something - maybe not punching some one straight off the bat would be a good idea but I don't think I'd let it go.

I don't think it's putting an animal over a person either. If some one was damaging your property then you'd do something too. My car/bike etc might not be worth more than a human live but i sure as hell aren't going to sit by and let some one steal or damage it..

I feel the same way. I would've had to have done something...

ChronoGrl
07-23-2009, 05:32 AM
One more thing.What is the point of having a dog if your gonna keep it chained up in the backyard? i see this in alot of places.People tell me they do it for protection.Whats that dog goning to protect beside the little radius he can go with his chain.I've always had dogs and they have always been inside dogs.


This part of the story I can definitely relate to. While I haven't seen anyone in my neighborhood personally hitting or beating their dogs, I constantly see them just chained or roped outside on a leash, which drives me utterly insane. I live in a low-income neighborhood with really tiny apartments and I think what happened in most cases is that people purchased dogs ("What a cute little puppy!") without realizing what they're getting into. Part of the reason why my boyfriend and I haven't gotten a dog is that our apartment is too small (and we don't want to get one of those little "toy" dogs - LOL). It's about being a RESPONSIBLE OWNER. If you're getting a pet, you need to be aware of their needs. Especially dogs. Dogs vary from breed to breed and have extremely different personalities - some need LOTS of room to run (weinerimers), and some just tear the shit out of your stuff unless you train them not to (terriers). People need to know what they're getting into BEFORE they purchase a pet, dogs especially. Dogs are pack animals and they NEED to identify who the alpha dog is. Owners NEED to train their dogs (not ABUSE them), but train them.

But people are lazy and stupid. Most of them don't see dogs as members of the family or as a responsibility; they're like a piece of furniture or an ornament. It's utter bullshit and it kills me to see those poor dogs tethered outside like that.

Back to your story - I'm glad that you stood up to him. I'm not sure if I have the cajones to do it myself (I'd probably call animal services and pester them until they took the dog away), but I applaud you for sticking up for the puppy. Good luck with this douchebag in the future. Hope he doesn't fuck with you.


personally, I think cruelty to animals starts by owning one as a pet anyway. would you want to live like that? they belong in the wild.

This made me giggle. These are my cats:

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/42066/2462604910061589475S500x500Q85.jpg

They are hairless and wouldn't survive a day in the wild. :p

_____V_____
07-23-2009, 05:39 AM
Ergh. Not that pic again.

...

next stop - the nightmares/fear of sleep thread.

urgeok
07-23-2009, 06:02 AM
i would have called the cops on the guy for sure.

as i get older i find 2 things :

1) i'm extremely careful of what i do that might have reprecussions on my family

2) the more i think about it - it becomes difficult for me to place the importance of humans above animals. we're all animals.. we all share the earth.

because i have no belief in anything supernatural - i dont believe there is an order in anything. My philosophy has been changing as i get older and I often see humans as nothing more than a destructive disease on the planet - always taking more than giving.

but - i also love life... love living..

so nothing is black and white anymore - there are no absolutes and I seem to have many conflicting - sometimes contradicting sentiments.

i do know this though - i believe that since we're here - all things point to this ..

we live better in communities (we dont have any choice with our population)
and to exist in a community - we should strive to be good people.

hitting anything or anyone other than in the act of self defence is wrong.

i hate antisocial violent fuckers. i hate criminal asshole scumbags.
i do not believe in this stupid concept that we have to have good and bad. fuck bad - i've had a belly full of it. i'm sick of it. i'd fucking love to have nothing but good for the rest of my lifetime. no rape, no murder, no home invasions, wars, terrorists, no fucking corporate CEOs getting rich by illegally screwing everyone else.

i know the arguements to the contrary - but i no longer give a shit about those theories - they dont work for me personally.




hey ... i havent had a rant for a little while. i forgot what my point was ..


oh yeah - someone beats a dog - call the cops.
if they come after you or your family - defend yourself as fully as neccessary.

Trail_Blazer
07-23-2009, 10:36 AM
Fantastic job Freak, I commend you for doing what you did. I actually value animals far more than I care about humans as a species. I say fuck humans actually, they're the most vile, ignorant, destructive, wasteful, self-centered, dangerous species on the planet.

I fucking loathe people who hurt/kill animals.

Posher778
07-23-2009, 10:36 AM
i would have called the cops on the guy for sure.

as i get older i find 2 things :

1) i'm extremely careful of what i do that might have reprecussions on my family

2) the more i think about it - it becomes difficult for me to place the importance of humans above animals. we're all animals.. we all share the earth.

because i have no belief in anything supernatural - i dont believe there is an order in anything. My philosophy has been changing as i get older and I often see humans as nothing more than a destructive disease on the planet - always taking more than giving.

but - i also love life... love living..

so nothing is black and white anymore - there are no absolutes and I seem to have many conflicting - sometimes contradicting sentiments.

i do know this though - i believe that since we're here - all things point to this ..

we live better in communities (we dont have any choice with our population)
and to exist in a community - we should strive to be good people.

hitting anything or anyone other than in the act of self defence is wrong.

i hate antisocial violent fuckers. i hate criminal asshole scumbags.
i do not believe in this stupid concept that we have to have good and bad. fuck bad - i've had a belly full of it. i'm sick of it. i'd fucking love to have nothing but good for the rest of my lifetime. no rape, no murder, no home invasions, wars, terrorists, no fucking corporate CEOs getting rich by illegally screwing everyone else.

i know the arguements to the contrary - but i no longer give a shit about those theories - they dont work for me personally.




hey ... i havent had a rant for a little while. i forgot what my point was ..


oh yeah - someone beats a dog - call the cops.
if they come after you or your family - defend yourself as fully as neccessary.

I'd like to supplement this with a quote:

"You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage."

-Ellen Ripley