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ChronoGrl

05-31-2009, 05:09 PM

(looking at a few hands raising up and murmuring "2001"...)

That made me smile. That's EXACTLY how my boyfriend feels about it.

The Exorcist - i never thought this was very good, even backi n the day. Too long drawn out and the actual exorcist scenes verge on being camp..

Agreed.

The Strangers - thought it was a big load of nuthin'

Did people go crazy over that movie? To me something has to be "overrated" if it's rated. :p If they did and I missed it, then I agree whole-heartedly.

...

Pan's Labyrinth. There I said it. It was gorgeous but disappointing.

Doc Faustus

05-31-2009, 05:18 PM

Yeah, Pan's Labirynth was slightly shallow and the ending was unsatisfying.

ChronoGrl

05-31-2009, 06:04 PM

+all the Oscar winning Movies in Best Picture category, mainly in recent years.

I agree. Especially Crash. Over-hyped pandering load of --

...

That movie made me SO incredibly angry.

Yeah, Pan's Labirynth was slightly shallow and the ending was unsatisfying.

THANK YOU.

You're the only one on this board that agrees with me. One of the first arguments/discussions I ever got in around here was over my disappointment for this film. A few people tried to "EXPLAIN TO ME" what it MEANT and what the POINT was... To which I got irritated because I understood the underlying meaning, but thought it was pedestrian and thin. The movie either should have been a fractured fairy tale OR a period piece. Didn't work as both. The Devil's Backbone was amazing and should have earned the praise Pan's got.

fortunato

05-31-2009, 07:39 PM

The Boondock Saints

Ugh. Same here.

Oh, that and Donnie Darko.

neverending

05-31-2009, 07:43 PM

I might as well get everyone here hating me at once:

THE DARK KNIGHT.

Also Alien
Terminator and
Star Wars

fortunato

05-31-2009, 07:50 PM

Star Wars

Yeah, I'm with you on this one.
Could never get into them.

Clockwork Black

05-31-2009, 08:03 PM

THE DARK KNIGHT.

Thank you.
I didnt care for it either. It felt like it lasted five hours. The effects were cool, other than that, I just found it bland.

Cannibal Houlcast (I wasnt shocked, I wasnt horrorifed, I wasnt anything but boared)

Friday the 13th-average slasher at very best

The Amityville Horror-snoozefest

Prom Night-see Amityville

Scarface-Ive seen it quite a few times, my brother loves it. I cant see what the big deal is. Maybe its because Im not a rapper.:confused:

Suspira-If that Dark Knight dont do that one will (slips on flame suit)

ferretchucker

06-01-2009, 07:41 AM

Really liked The Dark Knight on first viewing. Tougher to watch a second time.

And here's a big one.

THE GODFATHER

And of course, 2001.

Demonique

06-01-2009, 08:10 AM

The Matrix - all of them. I think this is because I feel Keanu Reeves has all the acting ability of a stunnned tuna.

scouse mac

06-01-2009, 08:18 AM

Independance Day: biggest load guano Ive seen in a long time

2001: agree with others, boring boring boring

jenna26

06-01-2009, 08:24 AM

Friday the 13th-average slasher at very best

I completely agree.

The Ring......many people told me how "scary" this was. I didn't even find it particularly entertaining.

Mulholland Dr. ~ and no its not because I just didn't "get it" (like ChronoGrl with Pan's Labyrinth, many people have tried to explain it to me....like they could...:p ) I just didn't find it all that interesting.

The Matrix - all of them. I think this is because I feel Keanu Reeves has all the acting ability of a stunnned tuna.

LOL I really liked the first Matrix.....but the other two were incredibly disappointing, in my opinion. Especially Revolutions.

urgeok2

06-01-2009, 09:03 AM

i think the word 'overrated' is overrated.

alkytrio666

06-01-2009, 11:16 AM

The Terminator. Or, for that matter, mostly every James Cameron movie. I hate The Abyss, too. Talk about a director who loves to watch himself make spectacles.

Ferox13

06-01-2009, 12:19 PM

Independance Day: biggest load guano Ive seen in a long time

Did any one really rate that film?

scouse mac

06-01-2009, 02:08 PM

Did any one really rate that film?

Not sure, but at the time I was in a minority of 1 of those who hated it. Some of my friends came out of the cinema after we'd watched it absolutely raving about it.

Elvis_Christ

06-01-2009, 02:19 PM

Guy Ritchie's flicks come to mind.

Dude's a really ratshit director considering all the praise lumped on him.

Part of all the Tarantino-lite bullshit that ruined the crime genre for a very long time.

Noah

06-01-2009, 05:40 PM

Sin City, Lord of the Rings movies, Pirates of the Carribean movies, Harry Potter movies - I hate them all.

neverending

06-01-2009, 09:09 PM

To all you 2001 haters- you find this film boring because you haven't seen it in the proper environment. Now hear me out.

I saw this film on its initial release in a true Cinerama theatre-

Cinerama is the trademarked name for a widescreen process which works by simultaneously projecting images from three synchronized 35 mm projectors onto a huge, deeply-curved screen, subtending 146° of arc.

Omaha, my home town, had one of three "super-Cinerama" theatres ever built. Watching a film 35 feet tall and so wide an arc that you had to turn your head both to the left AND the right in order to see the entire image is nearly indescribable.

2001: A Space Odyessy was the perfect film for this venue. No film has ever been made with a wider scope thematically- the birth of humanity up to the end of humanity. The scope and sweep of this theme is told in beautiful broad strokes primarily visually. The marraige of the theme with environment (the theatre) was a mind-blowing - truly an odyessy for the mind. When you see that space station, 35 feet tall, with the majestic circular movements of the camera and the stately Strauss waltz your jaw just drops open and you go OMG, as your head pans the screen and you see each little scene taking place in each little window of the space station. There is no way somebody watching this on a 48" television could understand the impact this film had. Even seeing it in a conventional theatre carries none of the magic of the intended experience.

Some might say the film is no good if it can't convey its meaning whatever way it's shown. That's akin to saying War & Peace is a crap novel because the Classics Illustrated adaptation lacks power.

2001 is the greatest epic film ever made and the few million people who saw it as it was intended know that. It's really a shame people can't have this experience, because even though I was only 12 years old when I saw it at The Indian Hills Cinerama Theater, it's something I will remember for the rest of my life.

missmacabre

06-01-2009, 10:05 PM

To all you 2001 haters- you find this film boring because you haven't seen it in the proper environment. Now hear me out.

I saw this film on its initial release in a true Cinerama theatre-

Omaha, my home town, had one of three "super-Cinerama" theatres ever built. Watching a film 35 feet tall and so wide an arc that you had to turn your head both to the left AND the right in order to see the entire image is nearly indescribable.

2001: A Space Odyessy was the perfect film for this venue. No film has ever been made with a wider scope thematically- the birth of humanity up to the end of humanity. The scope and sweep of this theme is told in beautiful broad strokes primarily visually. The marraige of the theme with environment (the theatre) was a mind-blowing - truly an odyessy for the mind. When you see that space station, 35 feet tall, with the majestic circular movements of the camera and the stately Strauss waltz your jaw just drops open and you go OMG, as your head pans the screen and you see each little scene taking place in each little window of the space station. There is no way somebody watching this on a 48" television could understand the impact this film had. Even seeing it in a conventional theatre carries none of the magic of the intended experience.

Some might say the film is no good if it can't convey its meaning whatever way it's shown. That's akin to saying War & Peace is a crap novel because the Classics Illustrated adaptation lacks power.

2001 is the greatest epic film ever made and the few million people who saw it as it was intended know that. It's really a shame people can't have this experience, because even though I was only 12 years old when I saw it at The Indian Hills Cinerama Theater, it's something I will remember for the rest of my life.

... I like 2001.

as far as overrated films go for me:

The Godfather
Scarface
Jurassic Park (don't hit me Ferret!)
Titanic
and anything with Arnold, Stallone, Segal or VanDamme in it.

The Mothman

06-01-2009, 10:10 PM

The Terminator. Or, for that matter, mostly every James Cameron movie. I hate The Abyss, too. Talk about a director who loves to watch himself make spectacles.

i know a guy who worked with him a few times, apparently he's a huge dick as well.

neverending

06-01-2009, 10:12 PM

and anything with Arnold, Stallone, Segal or VanDamme in it.

YES!

...........

Elvis_Christ

06-01-2009, 10:13 PM

and anything with Arnold, Stallone, Segal or VanDamme in it.

Boooo! :mad: :mad: :mad:

and it's Seagal motherfucker :D

The Mothman

06-01-2009, 10:13 PM

and anything with Arnold, Stallone, Segal or VanDamme in it.

you suck.
;)

ChronoGrl

06-02-2009, 03:04 AM

I like 2001, too.

And I agree on all counts about Friday the 13th - DEFINITELY overrated slasher. Loved the last frame, though. Classic.

Since people are ragging on The Black Knight (which I thought was good, but not AMAZING), I would like to add that I thought Batman Begins was terrible. Christian Bale is NOT a good batman.

Elvis_Christ

06-02-2009, 03:16 AM

What would you rate as good slashers?

hellfire1

06-02-2009, 03:20 AM

Since people are ragging on The Black Knight (which I thought was good, but not AMAZING), I would like to add that I thought Batman Begins was terrible. Christian Bale is NOT a good batman.

It's his Batman voice. Made me absolutely cringe during Batman Begins.

neverending

06-02-2009, 03:31 AM

It's his Batman voice. Made me absolutely cringe during Batman Begins.

It really is. It just sounds silly.

Angra

06-02-2009, 03:39 AM

Guy Ritchie's flicks come to mind.

Dude's a really ratshit director considering all the praise lumped on him.
.

Agreed..........

ChronoGrl

06-02-2009, 05:25 AM

What would you rate as good slashers?

Halloween and Black Christmas. Then again, it could be that I'm just not a fan of the 70s/80s slasher film.

BloodRedFlower

06-02-2009, 06:23 AM

Hmmm overrated?

Citizen Kane
:p

Angra

06-02-2009, 06:25 AM

Halloween and Black Christmas. Then again, it could be that I'm just not a fan of the 70s/80s slasher film.

Halloween is overrated..

scouse mac

06-02-2009, 11:05 AM

To all you 2001 haters- you find this film boring because you haven't seen it in the proper environment. Now hear me out.

I saw this film on its initial release in a true Cinerama theatre-

Omaha, my home town, had one of three "super-Cinerama" theatres ever built. Watching a film 35 feet tall and so wide an arc that you had to turn your head both to the left AND the right in order to see the entire image is nearly indescribable.

2001: A Space Odyessy was the perfect film for this venue. No film has ever been made with a wider scope thematically- the birth of humanity up to the end of humanity. The scope and sweep of this theme is told in beautiful broad strokes primarily visually. The marraige of the theme with environment (the theatre) was a mind-blowing - truly an odyessy for the mind. When you see that space station, 35 feet tall, with the majestic circular movements of the camera and the stately Strauss waltz your jaw just drops open and you go OMG, as your head pans the screen and you see each little scene taking place in each little window of the space station. There is no way somebody watching this on a 48" television could understand the impact this film had. Even seeing it in a conventional theatre carries none of the magic of the intended experience.

Some might say the film is no good if it can't convey its meaning whatever way it's shown. That's akin to saying War & Peace is a crap novel because the Classics Illustrated adaptation lacks power.

2001 is the greatest epic film ever made and the few million people who saw it as it was intended know that. It's really a shame people can't have this experience, because even though I was only 12 years old when I saw it at The Indian Hills Cinerama Theater, it's something I will remember for the rest of my life.

I was 12 when I first saw 2001. One of the TV channels was doing a whole night of Sci Fi, two films and documentarys, 2001 was the culmination of the evening. Id always heard how good it was and was really looking forward to seeing it.

The first half hour did not disappoint, the dawn of man piece was brilliant but the moment the film moved into space it became a chore to watch. The visuals you describe and the impact they had on you are a far cry to what I experienced, no doubt partly due to the medium I watched the film on. I have given it a second chance but still felt the same, even though I do enjoy HALs final scenes with Dave.

If the oppotunity arose for me to watch it in the type of cinema you describe, I would definately give a go and compare the difference, but i dont think that is likely.

missmacabre

06-02-2009, 11:17 AM

Boooo! :mad: :mad: :mad:

and it's Seagal motherfucker :D
you suck.
;)

This is what I mean. I like an action movie just as much as any guy, don't get me wrong. There is, however, this unspoken guy rule where the certain action starts are god. I can't speak ill of David Carusoe around my boyfriend or he goes bat shit crazy about how I just don't get it. These guy's guys actors who can't act worth shit, in movies that only get ratings because there are so many wannabe, macho men in the world.

aaaand I'm prepared for the fact that most of you are gonna want to burn me at the stake now.

scouse mac

06-02-2009, 11:26 AM

Yeah, Im not sure there has ever been such a thing as a good Steven Seagal movie.

neverending

06-02-2009, 11:28 AM

neverending

06-02-2009, 11:37 AM

This is what I mean. I like an action movie just as much as any guy, don't get me wrong. There is, however, this unspoken guy rule where the certain action starts are god. I can't speak ill of David Carusoe around my boyfriend or he goes bat shit crazy about how I just don't get it. These guy's guys actors who can't act worth shit, in movies that only get ratings because there are so many wannabe, macho men in the world.

aaaand I'm prepared for the fact that most of you are gonna want to burn me at the stake now.

Haha- I agree with you, MissM. Except for maybe a couple Stallone & Arnie movies- I think Arnie actually does a decent job with comedy- like Twins or True Lies. Stallone did a credible job on Copland, and you can't deny Rocky was his magnum opus.

Peple get mad at me when they ask me- "don't you ever want to just turn off your brain and have a good time with some mindless action?" and I answer no. I have a brain, and I enjoy using it. Even when I'm watching guys with huge muscles run, punch, shoot, bleed, destroy vehicles and blow things up I want some component to engage my intelligence- not insult it.

scouse mac

06-02-2009, 11:51 AM

To Scouse:

Hah- no it won't- Cinerama theatres no longer exist. The last one in existance- Omaha's Indian Hills was torn down several years ago to make way for- yes- a parking lot, despite efforts from the Omaha City Council and a group that included the likes of Ray Bradbury and Leonard Maltin to have the building declared a historical landmark.

It was in a very real sense the end of an era. The end of the time when going to the cinema was an EVENT- something you planned for, you got dressed up for, and you looked forward to because you knew you were going to an elegant location for a special occurance.

The moronic bean-counters who control the movie going experience today have no concept of providing a meaningful, special event for customers. It's simply how many ten dollar bills can they stuff into each little compartment of the multiplex in the maximum number of times per day. The actual movie is just an afterthought. This is why so many movies are pure crap. The movie industry cares little about the quality- and neither does the audience.

Could not agree more. There are precious few films made that actually need to be seen on a big screen where the experience is enhanced by it, not that the screens are too big now.

There is only one independant single large screen cinema left in Liverpool, the Woolton Picture House http://www.wooltonpicturehouse.co.uk/ which really struggled to stay open until a group of cinema lovers got involved. It was here where I made a point to see Lord of the Rings films purely on the basis that they needed the biggest screen possible.

Probably the modern day equivalent to Cinerama theatres would the IMAX which has a screen about five storeys high.

UngodlyWarlock

06-02-2009, 04:23 PM

To Scouse:

Hah- no it won't- Cinerama theatres no longer exist. The last one in existance- Omaha's Indian Hills was torn down several years ago to make way for- yes- a parking lot, despite efforts from the Omaha City Council and a group that included the likes of Ray Bradbury and Leonard Maltin to have the building declared a historical landmark.

Unless you are talking about something different that I am not aware of...
http://www.cinerama.com/TemplateHome.aspx?contentId=1

Seattle most definitely has a Cinerama. It *was* closed, but Paul Allen bought it and paid for it to be refurbished. It's an amazing theater. A little less so now that all these new theaters have the IMAX thing, but the screen is still an absolute behemoth....and I usually choose to see the big movies there when I can.

As for the topic of this thread:
I think it's interesting that so many of you don't consider *when these movies came out* and measure them against their contemporaries at the time. Sure, by todays standards some of them might be "overrated", but a lot of the classics are deemed as such because of what they did at the time. I'll use Star Wars as an example, because it's easy....Sci-fi was completely DEAD at that point in history. Obviously Lucas openly admits to borrowing concepts and styles from even older movies and radio serials, but the fact is it made a *huge* impact when it came out. Stuff like that, Excorist, 2001 etc may be "boring" or "cheesy" or any other adjective you want to use compared to a lot of modern day filmmaking, but they aren't overrated, imo. They deserve the "classic" status as far as I am concerned. Every bit of it.

Maybe a proper term would be something such as "popular movies that you hate".

For me, I will definitely agree with the Cannibal Holocaust mention. That movie just plain sucks. It serves it's purpose in horror history, but it's just not a good flick.

neverending

06-02-2009, 04:50 PM

Unless you are talking about something different that I am not aware of...
http://www.cinerama.com/TemplateHome.aspx?contentId=1

Seattle most definitely has a Cinerama. It *was* closed, but Paul Allen bought it and paid for it to be refurbished. It's an amazing theater. A little less so now that all these new theaters have the IMAX thing, but the screen is still an absolute behemoth....and I usually choose to see the big movies there when I can.

You're right- I was unaware that theatre was open.

As for the topic of this thread:
I think it's interesting that so many of you don't consider *when these movies came out* and measure them against their contemporaries at the time. Sure, by todays standards some of them might be "overrated", but a lot of the classics are deemed as such because of what they did at the time. I'll use Star Wars as an example, because it's easy....Sci-fi was completely DEAD at that point in history.

I put Star Wars on my list and I meant it-based on any scale. I saw Star Wars the week it was released and I hated it. As I mentioned in another post in this thread- even when I'm watching escapist entertainment I want my mind engaged. Star Wars was such a muddled mess, full of plot holes and IMO set sci-fi cinema back 30 years. I want intelligent sci-fi dammit!

I couldn't disagree with you more about the state of science fiction films in the 70s. Some of the science fiction films that came out in the 70s which I consider far, far better movies than Star Wars:

Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
THX 1138
A Boy and His Dog
The Andromeda Strain
A Clockwork Orange
Fantastic Planet
The Man Who Fell to Earth
Silent Running
Sluaghterhouse Five
Soylent Green

"Completely DEAD?" Well, if by completely dead you mean "experiencing a rennaisance by producing science fiction films of a higher quality and greater depth of storyline and width of subject and theme than ever before" you may be right.

Elvis_Christ

06-02-2009, 05:34 PM

Halloween and Black Christmas. Then again, it could be that I'm just not a fan of the 70s/80s slasher film.

Love those but I've got a soft spot for the trashier ones. Black Christmas and Halloween are almost Italian in style not quite Giallo but pretty close.
You should check out Bay of Blood if you haven't already sounds like you'd dig it.

Yeah, Im not sure there has ever been such a thing as a good Steven Seagal movie.

Out For Justice is brilliant.

Ferox13

06-03-2009, 12:03 AM

Yeah, Im not sure there has ever been such a thing as a good Steven Seagal movie.

It might no be Citizen Kane but OUT FOR JUSTICE is an amazingly entertaining film. William Forsythe stills the show. Plus Seagal gets to fight Dan Inosanto..

The first time i saw this was the opening week in the cinema with a 6 pack of cheap cider.

Despare

06-03-2009, 06:51 AM

Peple get mad at me when they ask me- "don't you ever want to just turn off your brain and have a good time with some mindless action?" and I answer no. I have a brain, and I enjoy using it. Even when I'm watching guys with huge muscles run, punch, shoot, bleed, destroy vehicles and blow things up I want some component to engage my intelligence- not insult it.

You don't have to "turn off your brain" to appreciate action flicks, it's simply a different level of enjoyment. Adrenaline pumping films depicting impossible stunts performed among explosions and gunfire are great and serve their purpose well. Sure, you can over analyze them, but when you get right down to it they provide a similar thrill to watching fireworks. Loud noises and choreographed explosions can appeal to people with or without brains.

Anyway, my "number one" over rated film (the one that causes people to gawk at me with amazement when I tell them I don't like it) is American Beauty.

ferretchucker

06-03-2009, 06:59 AM

Jurassic Park (don't hit me Ferret!)

I would...but god damn do I love my avatar...

And yes, Christian Bale is definitely overrated not just as Batman, but as an actor. He was good in American Psycho, but when I look at him I just feel...cold. There's nothing to like about him...

newb

06-03-2009, 07:04 AM

Napoleon Dynamite

yeah urge...I gave it another chance.

a couple of smiles maybe...but that's about it.

scouse mac

06-03-2009, 09:44 AM

It might no be Citizen Kane but OUT FOR JUSTICE is an amazingly entertaining film. William Forsythe stills the show. Plus Seagal gets to fight Dan Inosanto..

The first time i saw this was the opening week in the cinema with a 6 pack of cheap cider.

I'll hold my hands up and admit that my dismissal of Seagal films is based upon seeing maybe three films, Ive since avoided them like the plague. Out For Justice I dont recognize so I make this pledge to see it should it be shown on one of the numerous cable channels.

UngodlyWarlock

06-03-2009, 10:46 AM

I couldn't disagree with you more about the state of science fiction films in the 70s. Some of the science fiction films that came out in the 70s which I consider far, far better movies than Star Wars:

Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
THX 1138
A Boy and His Dog
The Andromeda Strain
A Clockwork Orange
Fantastic Planet
The Man Who Fell to Earth
Silent Running
Sluaghterhouse Five
Soylent Green

"Completely DEAD?" Well, if by completely dead you mean "experiencing a rennaisance by producing science fiction films of a higher quality and greater depth of storyline and width of subject and theme than ever before" you may be right.

I liked all of those movies a lot (except for A Boy and his Dog, which I have never seen), but I might have used the wrong words. By "completely dead", I guess I mean the kind of sci-fi that Star Wars is...i.e. Space/Fantasy opera. Not necessarily "all science fiction", so my mistake for that.

I, obviously, disagree but I am also a fan of Star Wars. I wasn't even alive when the first movie came out, but I was 4 when Return of the Jedi came out and it was a completely magical experience. Did I "use my brain", of course not...I was fucking 4 years old, hahaha. It was exactly the magical space universe I needed it to be and I've been a fan ever since. Obviously, everyone's tastes are different, but Star wars *for better or worse* has a style to it like no other series of movies and that style and universe deserves what it's earned....in my opinion of course.

But that's Star Wars for ya, right? Lots of people hate it...this is no new argument. :D

The only point I was trying to make was that *most* of the time a "classic" is a classic for a reason. It could be it was doing something different at the time it came out, it could be because it was actually a stellar experience, it could be any number of things, but most of the time they earned being called a classic. I don't mean all classic movies are GOOD, I just mean they deserve it. For example, Casablanca is a classic, but I would never in a million years enjoy that movie. It's just not for me. But I agree it deserves to be called a classic and it's not "overrated", I am sure.

Ferox13

06-03-2009, 10:47 AM

I'll hold my hands up and admit that my dismissal of Seagal films is based upon seeing maybe three films, Ive since avoided them like the plague. Out For Justice I dont recognize so I make this pledge to see it should it be shown on one of the numerous cable channels.

His first 5 films were enjoyable trash - OUT FOR JUSTICE stands out a mile - its megaviolent and has such hilarious dialogue. MARKED FOR DEATH is another fave of mine too - alot of ppl like UNDER SEIGE too (me not so much) - pretty much everything after that is shite. A good guide is if he kicks someone in the film then its crap :-)

One thing that can be said for him is that he made a pretty much useless martial art (Akido) and make it loo very effective on film..

jenna26

06-03-2009, 11:04 AM

His first 5 films were enjoyable trash - OUT FOR JUSTICE stands out a mile - its megaviolent and has such hilarious dialogue. MARKED FOR DEATH is another fave of mine too - alot of ppl like UNDER SEIGE too (me not so much) - pretty much everything after that is shite. A good guide is if he kicks someone in the film then its crap :-)

One thing that can be said for him is that he made a pretty much useless martial art (Akido) and make it loo very effective on film..

I'm not much of a Seagal fan at all but I LOVE Marked for Death for some inexplicable reason. :p I do also like Out for Justice and Under Siege.

Oh and two other movies that so many other people seem to like that I don't care for....
High Tension
Saw

I find both of the endings more funny than anything. High Tension had me until the end (though I had kind of guessed where they were heading with it). For me, it was more disappointing then just about any movie I have seen. Saw I found boring or just kind of silly throughout (Cary Elwes was annoying as hell).

neverending

06-03-2009, 11:05 AM

For example, Casablanca is a classic, but I would never in a million years enjoy that movie. It's just not for me. But I agree it deserves to be called a classic and it's not "overrated", I am sure.

Bah- if you can't enjoy Casablanca you deserve Star Wars!

That was a joke. :o

UngodlyWarlock

06-03-2009, 12:14 PM

Bah- if you can't enjoy Casablanca you deserve Star Wars!

That was a joke. :o

Hahaha. ;)

rasobasi420

06-03-2009, 12:34 PM

Susperia. I've seen it a few times, and really tried to enjoy it, but I can't. Totally overrated.

joshaube

06-03-2009, 02:30 PM

Suspiria is a work of art. One of the most visually stunning horror films ever produced. Along with Eyes Without a Face. Every frame is poetic.

For me, Halloween is the most over-rated horror film. The only John Carpenter film that I saw merit in, was The Thing. I think as a director himself, he is over-rated. Hate me, I know threats will be flooding in. ;-p

The Dark Knight. Ugh, can we stop talking about that MOVIE already? A copy-and-paste of classic crime dramas, acted out by a raspy-voiced man in a bat suit. Whoop-dee-doo.

Jaws.

Loathed every minute of it. I'm not usually a nature-loving son of a bitch, but the entire time I kept saying; Wow, this film shows everything that is wrong with humanity (and everything that is wrong with film, considering it redefined film-making upon release... for the worse. Popcorn and dynamite. Yuck.)

And really... an exploding shark? Ugh. Makes me sick.

UngodlyWarlock

06-03-2009, 03:13 PM

Susperia. I've seen it a few times, and really tried to enjoy it, but I can't. Totally overrated.

Obviously merely my opinion...but I could see someone seeing it as overrated if they just went into it watching it as a slasher flick.

Ya gotta allow yourself to get a little bit "artsy" with that one to truly enjoy it...you gotta look beyond the veil and pay attention to the camera work, the colors of the lighting, the style, everything.

Also...do not watch in a group with a bunch of friends. People talking and rolling their eyes will ruin it for sure.

Just my 2 cents.

The Mothman

06-03-2009, 05:58 PM

Hard to Kill is another good Seagal flick

Elvis_Christ

06-03-2009, 06:00 PM

His first 5 films were enjoyable trash - OUT FOR JUSTICE stands out a mile - its megaviolent and has such hilarious dialogue. MARKED FOR DEATH is another fave of mine too - alot of ppl like UNDER SEIGE too (me not so much) - pretty much everything after that is shite. A good guide is if he kicks someone in the film then its crap :-)

One thing that can be said for him is that he made a pretty much useless martial art (Akido) and make it loo very effective on film..

Yeh it was all downhill after Under Siege. Once he stopped really fucking people up breaking bones n' shit his films just become pretty dull at were just like 99% of action flicks. The "megaviolence" you spoke of is what really made me a fan of his films.

The Glimmer Man wasn't to bad and was probably the last decent flick he did.

I still watch his films and get a kick outta them but usually because of the unintentional laughs they bring.

_____V_____

06-04-2009, 10:01 AM

What exactly propels a flick into the "overrated" radar actually?

I mean, High Tension has a really cock-eyed and ridiculous climax (or anti-climax, whichever you prefer), but still people rate it pretty highly as a "more than decent" horror flick of recent times.

Do you take the overall movie into this purview, or just aspects of it - like
A) a very sore anti-climactic ending,
B) story and plotline,
C) cheese factor,
D) repeat viewing value...?

Is there a line which you have drawn somewhere for your decision?

(Still cannot see how some of you didnt dig Jaws at all...)

rasobasi420

06-04-2009, 03:16 PM

Obviously merely my opinion...but I could see someone seeing it as overrated if they just went into it watching it as a slasher flick.

Ya gotta allow yourself to get a little bit "artsy" with that one to truly enjoy it...you gotta look beyond the veil and pay attention to the camera work, the colors of the lighting, the style, everything.

I understand Argento's style of filming, and what he was trying to do. I saw what he was trying to do with the lighting and such, but a horror movie is meant to be scary. It wasn't. As a piece of art, it was pretentious and just didn't cut it.

Slasher flicks are fun, but believe me, I do have some taste. Suspiria fails and is extremely overrated.

Angelakillsluts

06-04-2009, 03:36 PM

Noah

06-04-2009, 05:33 PM

I put Star Wars on my list and I meant it-based on any scale. I saw Star Wars the week it was released and I hated it. As I mentioned in another post in this thread- even when I'm watching escapist entertainment I want my mind engaged. Star Wars was such a muddled mess, full of plot holes and IMO set sci-fi cinema back 30 years. I want intelligent sci-fi dammit!

Curious Neverending - Did you see Danny Boyle's film "Sunshine" with Cillian Murphy that came out a couple of years ago? If so, what did you think of it as a Sci-Fi flick?

neverending

06-04-2009, 06:25 PM

I have not seen it.

Doc Faustus

06-04-2009, 06:53 PM

I don't think Scream is half as smart or authentic as critics thought it was. There is much better metahorror than scream. Craven shouldn't have been treated like he was reinventing the wheel by using metafiction. Metafiction's been around since Cervantes.

Noah

06-08-2009, 09:47 AM

I have not seen it.

That's too bad, it's fucking brilliantly done. I highly recommend it, if you enjoy a damned good Science Fiction film.

AUSTIN316426808

06-10-2009, 05:27 PM

One from recent memory would be Hatchet, which I though was pretty fucking awful.

Elvis_Christ

06-10-2009, 06:58 PM

One from recent memory would be Hatchet, which I though was pretty fucking awful.

Totally agree. That film just didn't cut it after all the hype around it.

Bub the Zombie

06-11-2009, 01:18 AM

Most popular movies are overrated. Think of the number of movies which blew you away when you watched them as a kid, and when you re-watched them years later as a grown-up they disappointed or didn't leave much of an impression. The movies which really hold up to repeated viewings are the ones who escape the "overrated" radars.

Vanilla.exe

06-11-2009, 08:27 AM

I find most movies in general that have come out in the past few years over rated, to the point where I barely go to the cinema anymore. The Dark Knight was good until all of the fan girls started running around dressed up as the joker and no one could stop talking about the damn movie. At that point whenever someone asks if I want to watch it I run away screaming. I loved Diary of the Dead but everyone else I know that actually saw it hated it.

I hated, HATED the Lord of the Rings movies. They were boring. And long. Which made them even more boring.

Elvis_Christ

06-11-2009, 05:55 PM

I loved Diary of the Dead but everyone else I know that actually saw it hated it.

I'm in the same boat with you on that one. I loved it but most people seem to hate it and pick holes in it... kinda like Mother Of Tears.

rasobasi420

06-12-2009, 04:45 AM

I loved both Hatchet and Diary of the Dead, but agree, no one else seemed to enjoy either of them :^/

scouse mac

06-12-2009, 05:14 AM

I quite enjoyed Hatchet, didnt try to be anything other than tongue-in-cheek and over the top. Was never really aware of hype surrounding it though because its perfectly watchable but nothing special.

rasobasi420

06-12-2009, 05:51 AM

And it starred Kane Hodder, which added to the campiness of the flick.

Horrorible_Horror_Films

06-12-2009, 01:10 PM

Great thread, I just read every post.

Neverending - I think I agree with everything you said, you really hit the nail on the head with all your comments, especially about 2001. I however have enjoyed 2001 on the small screen, but I think that's because I really enjoy science fiction, that and horror is all that I read.

I no longer like Star Wars. I think it's overrated crap. I think Lucas sucks donkey balls and is responsible for destroying film. He was the first to do action figures, posters, burger king cups, all that useless movie tie in crap. all to make money, the movie is an afterthought. When I was a kid, I was a fanboy like millions of others, but eventually, the Lord of the Rings movies came out. If you don't like those movies, then they just aren't you're thing. If they're slow to you, you probably have never read the books. For me I read the books, then the movies came out and I was engrossed. However, I'm kind of an oddball because I also read the Silmarillion and loved it - most people, even those who loved the main 3 LOTR books had to plod through the Silmarillion.

I don't know how Steven Segal movies can be considered over-rated because they all sucked and were never good. Don't get me wrong, if Under Siege is on I have to watch it, but it is crap.

Someone also said Halloween was overratted. I actually agree. I know, sacrilige, and it is not a bad movie, and yes I understand how and why it is a classic, but to me it is overrated.

I love Suspiria. That one I can't ever see how it could be overrated.

Scream - yes, overrated, and annoying.

EDIT: Two things I forgot: I will still watch Star Wars, can't help it. The Friday the 13th series is also overrated I would agree. Good 1st movie, but not great, the rest of the series, well I managed to see them all, but 'meh.'

milktoaste

06-14-2009, 05:11 AM

I've learned to love Steven Seagal movies. You just have to except the movies for what they are, and then have fun with them. The next time you invite a couple of buddies over throw in any Seagal movie, and everytime Steve breaks an arm, snaps a neck, or permanatley takes another character out in a high speed kung fu spectacle you have to yell out "Man down!" and everyone has to drink. It's awesome, believe me.

My wife thinks almost every movie I like is overrated, I started to type a list here but it was going to get long- real long. She also points out, it's hard to say which movies are overrated, we are part of a small group in our town who love our kind of films, there's not alot of 'rating' going on here. I have to drive 45 minutes to see most horror movies in theater so there's not alot of talk about scary movies here.

If a movie is not over hyped to some degree, then it's not advertising hard enough.