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ManchestrMorgue
05-19-2009, 01:07 AM
It would appear that Lars Von Trier's latest film, Antichrist, is creating quite a stir at Cannes...
http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/antichrist/2009/05/19/1242498733956.html
This sounds like a very interesting film. Can't wait to see it.
Ferox13
05-19-2009, 01:58 AM
Ddin't realise that was a Von Trier movies - cool - need to see this..
Angra
05-19-2009, 02:01 AM
With such different response and reviews it's a must-see for us horror fans.
YAY!!
Elvis_Christ
05-19-2009, 02:19 AM
The Idiots totally blew me away so I'm keen to see more of his flicks.
fortunato
05-19-2009, 03:38 PM
Yeah, I've been reading some very interesting reviews for this myself.
Although I did hear that it might be cut considerably once it's distributed, which I hope isn't true.
ManchestrMorgue
05-19-2009, 09:33 PM
Although I did hear that it might be cut considerably once it's distributed, which I hope isn't true.
That will always be the risk. I am certain that in Australia it would be either cut or banned, given the description of the content. There is a much better chance of an uncut US release. Hope it happens.
_____V_____
05-19-2009, 09:37 PM
Hopefully I ll get my hands on one of the copies when its "released" here.
btw welcome back, Manchestr. Stick around. You were missed.
Angra
05-19-2009, 09:44 PM
I heard in the morning news that all the sensitive parts of the world gets a cut release, including USA.
The danish release will most definitely be uncut.
neverending
05-19-2009, 09:58 PM
Should be an uncut video release though.
Ferox13
05-19-2009, 11:54 PM
The Idiots totally blew me away so I'm keen to see more of his flicks.
Same here - i was also mad that I didn't come up with the idea of releasing your inner idiot first :-)
Kingdom Hospital or what ever its called is great too..
ManchestrMorgue
05-20-2009, 04:16 AM
Hopefully I ll get my hands on one of the copies when its "released" here.
btw welcome back, Manchestr. Stick around. You were missed.
Thanks mate, I appreciate it.
I will also do my best to get hold of it, does anyone know when it might get a DVD release anywhere?
alkytrio666
05-20-2009, 07:05 AM
This looks incredible- Von Trier always has a horror-toned style, so this should work nicely. It's nice to see a polished and professional director making an entry into the genre, rather than an adequate television director selected by Michael Bay.
_____V_____
05-20-2009, 07:45 AM
From the Hollywood Reporter:
Declaring himself "the world's greatest director," 53-year-old Dane Lars von Trier defended his enfant terrible title with aplomb at the Monday news conference for his Cannes Competition shocker "Antichrist."
It started with a shouting match between Daily Mail columnist Baz Bamigboye and other members of the press corps, with Bamigboye demanding von Trier "explain and justify" the explicit sexual gore in his film and another journo in the audience yelling "He's an artist, you're not. He doesn't have to explain anything!"
And he didn't.
On questions both abusive and toadying, von Trier maintained his autistic savant persona, deliberately avoiding any explanation of "Antichrist," alternatively mocking or dismissing his interrogators.
"I don't have to explain anything. You are all my guests here, not the other way round," von Trier said. "Anyway, I don't think about the audience when I make a film. I don't care. I make films for myself."
Von Trier did defend his use of nausea-inducing imagery -- including a bloody masturbation scene and a leg-drilling sequence that could have been cribbed from the "Saw" franchise -- as artistic "honesty," saying to leave the shockers out would have been "like lying."
He also insisted he was not playing a joke on the audience but meant everything, from the film's talking fox to the closing dedication to Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky, a dedication that drew howls of laughter at last night's press screening, to be taken seriously.
But, as always, von Trier tried to have it both ways, joking that it was "a bit of a pity" one can't actually kill people on screen and putting the blame for the most extreme scenes on lead actress Charlotte Gainsbourg.
"Charlotte took it too far. I tried to, but I just couldn't stop her," von Trier quipped.
Trailer here (scroll down) - http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16236
Papillon Noir
05-20-2009, 08:18 AM
It would appear that Lars Von Trier's latest film, Antichrist, is creating quite a stir at Cannes...
http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/antichrist/2009/05/19/1242498733956.html
This sounds like a very interesting film. Can't wait to see it.
I saw the trailer a few weeks ago and thought it looked really good. Now after reading this, this film just looks amazing! Really taking you to a much deeper level of experience than I originally anticipated.
fortunato
05-20-2009, 09:12 AM
Haha, von Trier is a crazy bastard.
Still excited for this one, though. A movie like this hasn't been quite so hyped up in a long time.
neverending
05-20-2009, 11:04 AM
Rod posted this link in his Gaillo thread, but the first paragraph is all about Antichrist. Interesting comments:
http://www.frightfest.co.uk/pcfc17thmay09.html
Elvis_Christ
05-20-2009, 04:56 PM
What other flicks of his are worth watching? I love the impact his work leaves on you. The Idoits had me laughing, shocked and quite bummed out a real experience.
fortunato
05-20-2009, 05:20 PM
Dancer in the Dark is wow intense.
I also really enjoyed Zentropa. Criterion just put out an excellent release of that one.
Elvis_Christ
05-20-2009, 05:36 PM
I saw Dancer in the Dark on the big screen when it came out. Nothing short of amazing. I'll have to give Zentropa a spin.
hellfire1
05-20-2009, 07:28 PM
Breaking the Waves
alkytrio666
05-20-2009, 09:03 PM
Elvis, lemme second the Zentropa recommendation. It's an immersive experience.
the five obstructions is amazing! anyone who likes film or art in general should watch it (and von trier is the mastermind behind the whole thing)
i'll check out the anti-christ but the whole 'talking fox' seems very odd to me
Staal
05-28-2009, 02:52 AM
Gonna check this one out this weekend.
I loved Breaking The Waves & Dancer In The Dark, so I can't wait to see Trier take a shot at the horror genre. + He's a fellow dane, yay!
_____V_____
06-24-2009, 11:23 PM
IFC is giving Lars von Trier's "Antichrist" a pre-Halloween release in Los Angeles and New York, with the film to go out Oct. 23.
IFC, the biggest buyer at this year's Cannes Film Festival, snapped up the psychological erotic-horror title during the fest.
Pic, which has sexually explicit content, stars Charlotte Gainsbourg and Willem Dafoe. Meta Louise Foldager produced and Peter Aalbaek Jensen and Peter Garde exec produced.
The Cannes jury presented Gainsbourg with its actress award.
IFC will widen the theatrical release after the platform launch.
The company, which usually releases theatrical titles simultaneously on video-on-demand, has set a VOD date of Oct. 21 for "Antichrist."
Angra
06-24-2009, 11:39 PM
Great..
At that time it will be out on DVD over here. :rolleyes:
i'll see it if just to see gainsbourgh's performance
_____V_____
07-08-2009, 07:44 AM
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Ferox13
07-28-2009, 02:45 PM
I liked it - a bit slow to start. It's a weird mixture of the his dogma style and some very stylised cinematography.
fuglystick
07-28-2009, 02:54 PM
I will...probably not be rushing to see this one. Not really my thang.
Elvis_Christ
07-28-2009, 06:45 PM
Shit I think I missed the last screening of this last night becasue I've been down with the flu :(
Ferox13
07-29-2009, 12:43 AM
the five obstructions is amazing! anyone who likes film or art in general should watch it (and von trier is the mastermind behind the whole thing)
i'll check out the anti-christ but the whole 'talking fox' seems very odd to me
There was a talking Anteater in the King version of Kingdom Hospital - don't think there was anything similar in the original - long time ssince i seen it.
Staal
08-10-2009, 04:57 AM
Anyone had a chance to watch this masterpiece?
I caught it a few months ago at the local cinema, and I was blown away. Films like these are rare. Finally one that really made an impression.
I somehow get the feeling, that you either hate or love this film. I went with a mate and my girlfriend. My mate and I both agreed that this was a breath of fresh air. However, my girlfriend found it to be the most dumb and meaningless film she had ever seen.
Looking forward you hearing from you guys about this one.
I'd recommend it.
Disease
08-13-2009, 10:07 AM
It's screening for 4 days here next week, I'm planning to catch it then.
Ferox13
08-13-2009, 02:30 PM
About 12-14 people walked out during it here too...
ChronoGrl
08-14-2009, 04:43 AM
Reading the reviews, it doesn't seem to be my cup of tea, so I'm proceeding with caution... I love hearing what you guys think, though. Will definitely shape whether or not I'm going to check it out.
celtickitty60
08-16-2009, 03:17 PM
Hmmmm, this one sounds interesting. Not sure if I want to see it or not yet, LOL.
fortunato
10-21-2009, 02:12 PM
Man, I read that after Hallowe'en, this will be getting a wider US theatrical release.
I certainly hope this is true. I can't wait to see this.
The Mothman
10-21-2009, 02:49 PM
Im going to see the premier at IFC in NYC, should be sweet, hope i can get tickets in time.
p1zl3
10-22-2009, 04:22 PM
All I'm going to say is, "full vittle-view female castration" and " forced blood/semen ejaculation"...
That's the brilliance that this sh*t-box of a film has to offer... It tries to fake sophistication with utter perversion. I didn't think the world was stupid enough to go for this film, but apparently the 6.9/10 rating on IMdB says otherwise.
novakru
10-22-2009, 05:47 PM
I have to see this
Ferox13
10-24-2009, 01:22 PM
All I'm going to say is, "full vittle-view female castration" and " forced blood/semen ejaculation"...
That's the brilliance that this sh*t-box of a film has to offer... It tries to fake sophistication with utter perversion. I didn't think the world was stupid enough to go for this film, but apparently the 6.9/10 rating on IMdB says otherwise.
Not true - Von Trier had a bunch of other things happening in the movie - granted he does them very heavy handlyed but the whole Adam and Eve thing returning to 'Eden' and all the Munchausen Syndrome theme. I don't thing 'sophistication' is the right word but the film isn't shallow trite crap either...
I'm not a huge fan of the film but I don't think Von Trier fakes anything - if any thing its the complete opposite and he believe his own art for arts sake more than 99.9% of directors..
And mentioning 'I didn't think the world was stupid enough to go for this film' - i think 'Transformers 2', 'The Hangover' and 'Fast and the Furious' all made alot more at the box office than Von Trier flick.
PS - you are confusinging 'female castration' with 'female circumcision'....and you are confusing 'sh*t-box of a film' with 'a film i have made a knee jerk reacton to...
TwistedWitch
10-25-2009, 04:54 AM
Hmm can't make up my mind whether I want to see this movie or not yet - although did like Von Trier's Dancer In The Dark which made an impression!
p1zl3
10-25-2009, 11:05 AM
PS - you are confusinging 'female castration' with 'female circumcision'....and you are confusing 'sh*t-box of a film' with 'a film i have made a knee jerk reacton to...
I'll tell you what... I'll view this butt-f*ck of a film going experience one more time and break it down point-by-point as to alleviate all supposition of a "knee-Jerk reaction".
Some directors in this world look to tell a story in a comprehensive manner with style and charisma and some directors (Von Trier) are like the attention deprived children who seek it by any means necessary; usually resorting to shock-value and cryptic delivery in order to fake depth. That pretty much sums up Von Trier's whole film career.
PS: Good call on the "castration vs. circumcision". I stand corrected. Although, I think clitoris removal just falls under "genital mutilation"... either way, eek.
Ferox13
10-25-2009, 02:30 PM
some directors (Von Trier) are like the attention deprived children who seek it by any means necessary; usually resorting to shock-value and cryptic delivery in order to fake depth. That pretty much sums up Von Trier's whole film career.
PS: Good call on the "castration vs. circumcision". I stand corrected. Although, I think clitoris removal just falls under "genital mutilation"... either way, eek.
No Female circumcision means removing of the clitoris....
I'm not an expert on Von Trier - I've only seen The Idiots and Dogville from him (as well as The Antichrist) and I didn't think they used 'shock-value and cryptic delivery in order to fake depth' at all..
I can see why u say it about AC though - it i very heavy handed but I think you're being very hard on it - and this is a film I though was only ok (mostly fpr the reasons you stated too)
siorai
10-26-2009, 11:13 AM
I didn't really find much in Antichrist to be overly steeped in shock value per se. Maybe after watching films like L'Interieur or Martyrs it takes a bit more than genitalia being destroyed to phase me. Maybe it's more that the people who are shocked and offended by this movie go into it expecting more of an art film?
Either way, I found the movie to be way over-hyped. It's less graphic than most any mainstream horror movie you'll find. The symbolism involved was interesting, but honestly I had to do some research online to get what Von Trier was going after.
Was it a good movie? I guess, but I doubt I would recommend it to very many people at all. I found it to be too polar. It starts quite amazingly with some breath-taking cinematography and atmosphere. It moves into more and more surrealism, then abruptly changes gears into a wannabe Saw installment. I just didn't feel much flow, but then again maybe that's what Von Trier wanted. It's definitely an interesting film. I'm not so sure it goes as deep as people want to think it does though.