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Ferox13
04-20-2009, 03:47 PM
Can we stop with this...

Disease
04-20-2009, 04:04 PM
for what reason, did someone torture and fuck someone you love?

Whats the problem?

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-20-2009, 04:08 PM
torture porn is just bad.

I love real torture, but torture porn is too goofy.

Elvis_Christ
04-20-2009, 06:20 PM
Can we stop with this...

Agreed. Enough with that "Splatterpunk" bullshit too. Dumb as fuck terminology used by wannabe cinephile dipshit hipsters.... GET FUCKED.

UngodlyWarlock
04-20-2009, 09:16 PM
You know what I wish we could be done with? The phrase "torture porn" itself. It's just really aggravating to me. I don't necessarily have a better name for it, but I'm so sick of this phrase.

Other than that, though, I really don't even see that many of these anymore. Are there really that many being made? Maybe they just don't pop up on my radar as I have no interest in these styles of movies for the most part (and I love gore, but I like a little fun in my horror).

-D

roseyred
04-20-2009, 09:19 PM
I love porn but im not sure i know what torture porn is? I have a idea what it is but im sure I have never seen any.

missmacabre
04-20-2009, 09:28 PM
I love porn but im not sure i know what torture porn is? I have a idea what it is but im sure I have never seen any.

Haha no Rose. Torture porn is a genre. Think about movies like Hostel to get a grasp for what we're talking about. What you are talking about is fake snuff lol.



I dunno, I used to like "torture porn", but I lost all enjoyment in it when I went and got a conscience a few months back. Can't deal with the content anymore.

roseyred
04-20-2009, 09:30 PM
Haha no Rose. Torture porn is a genre. Think about movies like Hostel to get a grasp for what we're talking about. What you are talking about is fake snuff lol.



I dunno, I used to like "torture porn", but I lost all enjoyment in it when I went and got a conscience a few months back. Can't deal with the content anymore.

haha thank you for clearing that up. i got alot to learn. I guess i dont like torture porn then movies like hostel anymore make my wanna throw up.

Elvis_Christ
04-20-2009, 09:36 PM
You know what I wish we could be done with? The phrase "torture porn" itself.

That's what was meant I think (well by me anyways).

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-20-2009, 10:24 PM
torture porn to me is just lame, because it's always bad acting bimbos being tortured.

the whole reason for watching the the movies are the badly acted torture/sex scenes. I like well acted stories, that's why I watch movies. I mean why not just watch some porn and people being tortured instead? the internet is porn and you can find real people being tortured. the victim might not be the latest blonde bombshells, but the acting is superb. ;)

the fact is, people that watch this stuff DON'T LIKE torture.

urgeok2
04-20-2009, 10:25 PM
i love the way it gets the 'porn' label because of the occasional pair of bare breasts.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-20-2009, 10:27 PM
i love the way it gets the 'porn' label because of the occasional pair of bare breasts.

you're out of your element.

I still <3 you but I couldn't disagree more :p

urgeok2
04-20-2009, 10:35 PM
you're out of your element.

I still <3 you but I couldn't disagree more :p

you lost me there squirt ...

i was trying to say that they dont qualify as 'porn'

you think they do ?

neverending
04-20-2009, 10:37 PM
She's saying that's not the reason they call it "torture porn."

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-20-2009, 10:38 PM
you lost me there squirt ...

i was trying to say that they dont qualify as 'porn'

you think they do ?

does a snuff film need to have nudity to fit into your definition of porn?

urgeok2
04-20-2009, 10:42 PM
does a snuff film need to have nudity to fit into your definition of porn?


i never considered nudity to be porn....

graphic hardcore sex (actual intercourse) is what i consider to be porn...


soft-snuff would actually be a better name for these.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-20-2009, 10:46 PM
graphic hardcore sex (actual intercourse) is what i consider to be porn...


that's an extremely narrow definition.

not porn by that definition (http://lemonparty.org)

(its the party, don't click)

_____V_____
04-20-2009, 10:49 PM
Its just another of those marketing gimmicks of Hollywood which sells. The more you talk about it, the more you add to its popularity.

The studio guys in charge of the Mktg department must be rubbing their hands in glee at all the moolah generated by these catchphrases.

Stupid youths of today.

urgeok2
04-20-2009, 10:50 PM
that's an extremely narrow definition.

not porn by that definition (http://lemonparty.org)

(its the party, don't click)


god damn, i clicked on that link you little weirdo !!
the only reason i'm here right now is because i cant sleep and wanted to get tired enough to go back to bed .. now i have to find something to block that image from my head - jesus !


ANYWAY......you could say that it's a narrow definition ...

or you could say my definition of what isnt porn is very wide :)

AUSTIN316426808
04-20-2009, 10:50 PM
that's an extremely narrow definition.

not porn by that definition (http://lemonparty.org)

(its the party, don't click)

You need to start editing quicker.

_____V_____
04-20-2009, 10:53 PM
You need to start editing quicker.

Amen.

Watching some pics of Megan Fox to get that image out right now. So far it hasnt worked.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-20-2009, 11:06 PM
bwahaha sorry boys...

I'll try this what do these have in common, think really hard.dust off the old thinking caps :p

rape
torture
murder
humiliation

urgeok2
04-20-2009, 11:11 PM
bwahaha sorry boys...

I'll try this what do these have in common, think really hard.dust off the old thinking caps :p

rape
torture
murder
humiliation

dehumanization

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-20-2009, 11:20 PM
dehumanization

nope, think harder.

think about the sexual motivation.

urgeok2
04-20-2009, 11:22 PM
nope, think harder.

think about the sexual motivation.

control..............?

edit ...

actually - torture and murder = sexual motivation ?

rape and humiliation are about control...

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-20-2009, 11:55 PM
control..............?

edit ...

actually - torture and murder = sexual motivation ?

rape and humiliation are about control...

we are at a road block here.

ever have any sexual fantasies involving violence?

I don't even need to ask that questions because I know the answer is probably "NO" Which is why you don't get why it could be considered as "porn"
it's like in south park where chef is concerned about the racist flag and the children just see people.

some people don't get how something could be considered sexual, and some people can't see how it couldn't be considered sexual (vomit gore anyone....). to me though, these movies are just violent sexual fantasies. I'm not morally outraged or anything, the truth is I just find them to be really, really bad. :p

Ferox13
04-21-2009, 12:13 AM
Its just another of those marketing gimmicks of Hollywood which sells. The more you talk about it, the more you add to its popularity.

The studio guys in charge of the Mktg department must be rubbing their hands in glee at all the moolah generated by these catchphrases.

Stupid youths of today.

No i think it was originall more a media invention to further pigeo hole our genre - it was originally used in exactly the same way that 'video nasty' was in the British media back in the 80's.

Its nothing to do with the actual films and whether they are good and bad just he use of that stupid label....Its not like these kind of film are anything new - Naziexploitation anyone?

X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-21-2009, 12:16 AM
No i think it was originall more a media invention to further pigeo hole our genre - it was originally used in exactly the same way that 'video nasty' was in the British media back in the 80's.

Its nothing to do with the actual films and whether they are good and bad just he use of that stupid label....Its not like these kind of film are anything new - Naziexploitation anyone?

what is naxiexploitation?

Ferox13
04-21-2009, 02:50 AM
Ya know , Nazi Exploitation films..

The Genre pretty much started with Love Camp 7 in the late 60's - Ilsa She wolf of the SS is prolly the most famous of them as is Salon Kitty...

There's a bunch of Italian ones too:

SS Experiment Camp

Lager SS5

Deported Women of the SS Special section etc etc

http://www.drummingbigbear.net/Movies/IlsaSS.jpg

urgeok2
04-21-2009, 05:21 AM
we are at a road block here.

ever have any sexual fantasies involving violence?

I don't even need to ask that questions because I know the answer is probably "NO" Which is why you don't get why it could be considered as "porn"



i guess you hit the nail on the head there ...

i didnt realize what rape was about either until i was exposed to all the paul bernardo stuff when it came out.

(he liked to exert power over girls - it wasnt in the least bit sexual ... once he and his wife hired a hooker - but he couldnt get it up because the hooker was aggresive)


but yeah - you're correct - i have no experiences or fantasies concerning sexual violence. a big turn off for me.

aside from biting the bum which i do like quite a bit. (not too hard though)

Elvis_Christ
04-21-2009, 06:46 PM
http://www.drummingbigbear.net/Movies/IlsaSS.jpg

Thats a great Ilsa poster. I wonder how hard it would be to come by one, I bet the go for stamp collector prices.

Ferox13
04-21-2009, 11:38 PM
I imagine - I'd really like an original Ilsa poster. Any one em would do too..

Elvis_Christ
04-22-2009, 12:07 AM
Are there reprints floating about? I'd love one of the t-shirts too.

Ferox13
05-22-2009, 01:57 AM
Here's a weird JAPANESE poster (not sure whether I like the collage style they use over there or not):

http://www.onesheetindex.com/pix/6786_1.jpg

The site (http://www.onesheetindex.com/movie_posters/sexploitation/ilsa_1_she_wolf_of_the_ss_6786.html) seems to sell em but can't figure out where LOL..

Elvis_Christ
05-23-2009, 07:26 PM
That's a great poster. Really brings out the fine exploitative material of the flick!

I wonder how successful it was in Japan? Cannibal Holocaust was a smash it over there wasn't it outselling E.T n' shit?