Looking for some "extreme" flicks

[Staal]

I'm searching more "extreme" flicks like Inside and Martyrs (at least the first part of the movie).

I'm not really sure what you could classify these movies as, but I really enjoyed 'em, and I'm hoping that you guys could recommend me more flicks of this kind.

And no, I'm not looking for flicks like Cannibal Holocaust.

Any ideas?

[Ferox13]

Try some Takashi Miike (imprint/audition/gozu)

I dunno if its what you mean but films like Murder Set pieces/Guinea pig series/The August Underground frilms are pretty 'extreme'...

[Rodus]

Aftermath, Bunman and Ebola Syndrome are also very extreme.

[Staal]

Try some Takashi Miike (imprint/audition/gozu)

I dunno if its what you mean but films like Murder Set pieces/Guinea pig series/The August Underground frilms are pretty 'extreme'...

I already own Imprint and Murder Set Pieces. I really like Imprint, where as Murder Set Pieces probably took it a bit too far or at least lacked a decent plot.

I'm trying to look up Gozu & Audition, but man they're expensive. Danish dealers want about 35$ for these, and that's without danish subtitles.

I can't seem to find anything called August Underground or Guinea Pig.

Aftermath, Bunman and Ebola Syndrome are also very extreme.

Only one I'm able to find is Ebola Syndrome which also retails for about 35$ which seems a bit much. I'll keep looking tho, they should be cheaper somewhere.

[Rodus]

Bunman was also know as The Untold Story (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_d?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=the+untold+story&x=0&y=0).
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_d?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=august+underground&x=0&y=0)
have al the August Underground stuff.
Aftermath (http://www.amazon.com/Aftermath-Genesis-Pep-Tosar/dp/B000JJSJAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1239446468&sr=1-1) is also available there as is Ebola Syndrome (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_d?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=ebola+syndrome&x=0&y=0)
It may be worth you checking out the Danish Amazon to see if they are stocking them.

[Staal]

I've never used Amazon. And in fact, there is no danish version of it. If I go to www.amazon.dk I get redirected to the .co.uk version.

Anyway, these are alot cheaper than the danish retailers, so I guess I'll be placing my order within the next ten minutes.

Amazon seems to have it all. :D

[scouse mac]

Try your luck on www.play.com

I order a shit load of stuff off there and its cheap as chips

[Staal]

I just ordered Gozu, Ôdishon, Mum & Dad and Three Extremes.

Don't know what that Mum & Dad was all about. I just thought it looked like it was worth watching.

Try your luck on www.play.com

I order a shit load of stuff off there and its cheap as chips

Thanks for the tip, I went with amazon tho. However, I will be sure to check out play.com as well next time.

[ChronoGrl]

I just ordered Gozu, Ôdishon, Mum & Dad and Three Extremes.


Haven't seen Mum & Dad yet, but I can say that the rest are definitely worth watching and owning.

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Autopsy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443435/) was my favorite film from this year's After Dark Horrorfest. Definitely an homage to splatterpunk. Incredibly well-done.

[Staal]

Haven't seen Mum & Dad yet, but I can say that the rest are definitely worth watching and owning.

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Autopsy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443435/) was my favorite film from this year's After Dark Horrorfest. Definitely an homage to splatterpunk. Incredibly well-done.

A friend of mine is bringing this one of these days. I've been looking forward to watching it, however I don't expect much due to it's IMDB rating.

Any other recommendations? You've hit spot on everytime so far.

[ChronoGrl]

A friend of mine is bringing this one of these days. I've been looking forward to watching it, however I don't expect much due to it's IMDB rating.

Any other recommendations? You've hit spot on everytime so far.

I hope you like Autopsy. Despite its IMDB rating, it's a brilliant homage to Grindhouse and splatter films while simultaneously creating a horrifying exploitative gorefest itself. I'm guessing that the low rating is due to a couple of things:

1. If people who aren't horror fans are watching this movie, then they are going to rate it poorly. This isn't for the casual horror fan or the non-horror fan. This really is for horror fans.
2. This truly does pay homage to grindhouse, including the cliched plot (Spring Break gone bad) and some purposefully bad writing... But as soon as you realize that the over-the-top directing and acting are on purpose... It just clicks and falls into place. The gore just escalates to this level of horror that is nearly indescribable.

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As for more recommendations, I'll throw out another Horrorfest movie (from last year):

Borderland (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0452592/)

This movie is hard to describe. What starts off as "another Spring Break movie" turns into a horror-thriller about a cult in Mexico and how it has control over the town. There's blood, there's gore, and there is legitimate creepiness.

People are split with this film (some love it, some find it boring - be warned; it DOES start slow), but I think that it's a genuine horror film.


Also definitely check out the The Sickest, Gorific, Disturbing and Controversial - HDC's "Visually Challenging" 100 (http://horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30312) thread. There are a lot of sick movies in there that I haven't even seen. It's a great thread to go through when you're looking for something extreme, cutting edge, and disturbing. Lots of recs in there.

[Staal]

ChronoGrl:

I'll be sure to keep my mind open about Autopsy. Now, I hate sounding like a newb, even though I am. But, what is Grindhouse all about?

All I know about it is Death Proof, which I caught at the movies. Wasn't that some kind of tribute to the genre og era?

I'll try to keep a look out for Borderland. It seems exciting. Seems alot like a Hostel/Turistas kind of movie, but I'm hoping for it to be somewhat more intelligent.

And with regards to the Visually Challenging thread, I've checked it out a couple of times, but I've either disagreed or thought that these flicks weren't for me. The list starts out with Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange - My favorite film of all time, but sick/gorific? no. Then the list pretty much just offers 198x asian movies. I should probably give these a go, but they just seem so.. odd?

I will obviously get flamed for this, but I like my movies to be post 1990. I've probably just had a bad start with the older movies, but stuff like Cannibal Holocaust wasn't for me.

[ChronoGrl]

ChronoGrl:

I'll be sure to keep my mind open about Autopsy. Now, I hate sounding like a newb, even though I am. But, what is Grindhouse all about?

All I know about it is Death Proof, which I caught at the movies. Wasn't that some kind of tribute to the genre og era?

"Grindhouse" films are a sub-genre of Exploitation films. The term characterizes low-budget low-brow action/violent/sexual/horror films with lots of sex and lurid risque themes. Wikipedia does a good rundown of the genre here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindhouse

Grindhouse the movie(s) that came out in 2007 (Planet Terror, Death Proof) were Tarentino and Rodriguez's homage to the genre (the over-the-top action, sex, themes - the grittiness, etc.).

What makes me characterize Autopsy as "Grindhouse" is the fact that it has a low-budget feel to it, ridiculous amounts of heightened violence, and definite exploitation themes. Also the absurdity of the plot and reveal make it seem like an homage to Grindhouse cinema.



I'll try to keep a look out for Borderland. It seems exciting. Seems alot like a Hostel/Turistas kind of movie, but I'm hoping for it to be somewhat more intelligent.

It's definitely more intelligent. It's a tough movie to pitch because all of its descriptions sound as though it's "another spring break flick," but it actually has a lot more going on than that. It captures a whole culture of fear around a cult/drug cartel that has elements of the supernatural/occult to it along with some seriously brutal action scenes. It's gritty, rough, and well-done. It DID take me a while to get into it, but it's worth it once you do.



And with regards to the Visually Challenging thread, I've checked it out a couple of times, but I've either disagreed or thought that these flicks weren't for me. The list starts out with Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange - My favorite film of all time, but sick/gorific? no. Then the list pretty much just offers 198x asian movies. I should probably give these a go, but they just seem so.. odd?

I will obviously get flamed for this, but I like my movies to be post 1990. I've probably just had a bad start with the older movies, but stuff like Cannibal Holocaust wasn't for me.

I know what you mean - I have that problem myself with that thread. Some of those films do not appeal to me at all (Cannibal Holocaust, Hershel Gordon Lewis films), but I think that there are some genuinely gruesome films in there - You just need to dig through it and then do the research; if reviews/summaries do not appeal to you, then you know it's not for you.

[Elvis_Christ]

Grindhouse is not a subgenre. Grindhouse is a term used to describe the theatres where exploitation flicks screened.

HG Lewis' work is brilliant IMO you're missing out on some classic cinema.
Not really shocking but definitley fun splatter that had a huge impact on the genre.

[Ferox13]

Grindhouse is not a subgenre. Grindhouse is a term used to describe the theatres where exploitation flicks screened.

HG Lewis' work is brilliant IMO you're missing out on some classic cinema.
Not really shocking but definitley fun splatter that had a huge impact on the genre.

Yup....

I think people now use the term 'Grindhouse' as they were never aware of types 70's exploitation films that played the Grindhouses and Drive ins...Grindhouses were (usually) the inner city flea pits - 42nd Street was a hotbed of em before the clean up of NYC. Drive-Ins are sorta their rural cousins. In their hayday, they both tended to show the same sort of films - cheap action/exploitaton/kung fu/WIP/horror etc often in double or triple bills.

Weirdly enough Planet Terror is more a homage/parody to the later Zombie genre which really wasn't a staple of Grindhouse/Drive in 's bills.

[Staal]

Well, if they are anything like Death Proof, i'd probably enjoy some of those flicks.

Could you guys recommend me any titles?

[Elvis_Christ]

I think people now use the term 'Grindhouse' as they were never aware of types 70's exploitation films that played the Grindhouses and Drive ins...

Its a horrible hipster term that really gets on my nerves just like Torture Porn or Splatterpunk.
Kinda sad that a great era of film history needed to be legitmized by a mainstream studios homage to gain recognition.


Weirdly enough Planet Terror is more a homage/parody to the later Zombie genre which really wasn't a staple of Grindhouse/Drive in 's bills.

I think Fulci's Zombie made it to the Grindhouse circuit but yeh those flicks were more prominant in the home video realm. Did much of the Italian stuff make it over to the UK? I guess the Video Nasties scare buried a lot of those titles.


Could you guys recommend me any titles?

Fight For Your Life and Switchblade Sisters are two films I'm pretty fond of.

[Ferox13]

Its a horrible hipster term that really gets on my nerves just like Torture Porn or Splatterpunk.

I think Fulci's Zombie made it to the Grindhouse circuit but yeh those flicks were more prominant in the home video realm. Did much of the Italian stuff make it over to the UK? I guess the Video Nasties scare buried a lot of those titles.

Fight For Your Life and Switchblade Sisters are two films I'm pretty fond of.

Yeah I scream when i hear the word 'torture punk'...It worse than the 2 others as its used to 'pigeon hole' and dimiss the horror genre by the critics..

Yeah Zombie was definally part of the drive in/Grindhouse circuit and I City of the Living Dead got a bit of a showing too..

LOL - I love FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE - I can imagine the atmosphere of a screening of that in an Inner city flea pit..

Here's some I like off the top of my head (I tryed vary the genres):

Bronx Warriors (post Apocalypic)

The Street Fighter (Kung Fu - well Karate really)

I Drink your Blood (Manson cults - rabid killers etc)

Maniac (Psycho/Slasher)

Dolemite (Blaxpoitation)

Ilsa SheWolf of the SS (Nazi Exploitation)

Cannibal Ferox (ermm...Cannibal)

The Exterminator (Vigilante)

[Elvis_Christ]

Nice choices there Ferox those flicks are gold.

...and yeh dude Fight For Your Life is a goodie that covers a bunch of the exploitation subgenres. It would be great to be a fly on the wall while it was being shown. Its quite funny how differently it was marketed to black/white audiences.

[Ferox13]

Theres an interview with the director in American Nightmares ( i think thats the books name) where he talks about sitting donw with his (black) house keeper and watching the film...

TENEMENT is another quintessential grindhouse film.

[Elvis_Christ]

TENEMENT is another quintessential grindhouse film.

Fuckin' a! Thats a great watch. I love the gang orientated flicks like that. Class Of 1984 and Savage Streets are amazing too.

[ChronoGrl]

Grindhouse is not a subgenre. Grindhouse is a term used to describe the theatres where exploitation flicks screened.



Yes, I know it is the name for the type of theaters that showed exploitation flicks... But the term permeated through the horror culture as to describe the flicks themselves. There's the "Grindhouse" origin (the theaters) and then there's the permutation (the movies).


Yup....

I think people now use the term 'Grindhouse' as they were never aware of types 70's exploitation films that played the Grindhouses and Drive ins...Grindhouses were (usually) the inner city flea pits - 42nd Street was a hotbed of em before the clean up of NYC. Drive-Ins are sorta their rural cousins. In their hayday, they both tended to show the same sort of films - cheap action/exploitaton/kung fu/WIP/horror etc often in double or triple bills.

Weirdly enough Planet Terror is more a homage/parody to the later Zombie genre which really wasn't a staple of Grindhouse/Drive in 's bills.


I know. The way I look at it is that "Grindhouse" described the cinemas at the time that showed these films and then later the term evolved to describe the films played in those cinemas.

I don't think that it's much of a leap to use "Grindhouse" to describe exploitation films of the 70s and 80s.

[Ferox13]

It all semantics for sure but one thing I never really noticed many people using the term 'Grindhouse' as a 'genre' until the film of the same name came out..

I think I first heard of the expression to discribe the flea pits of NYC when i first read Sleazoid Express back in the day....I never thought I'd get to see all that wonderful tripe back then :-)

[ChronoGrl]

Ahhhhhhh - Sorry - I assumed that "Grindhouse" was always referred to as a genre (even prior to the film). To tell you the truth, it was the film that introduced me to this term and those types of film. :o

So you know what happens when people assume...

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They get spanked.

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Ok, Ferox - Where's my spanking? ;)

[Ferox13]

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Ok, Ferox - Where's my spanking? ;)



Yippee - Eric Stanton time:

http://www.petticoatpunishmentart.com/aa04images/art048.jpg

[neverending]

That's a whipping, not a spanking.

[Ferox13]

That's a whipping, not a spanking.

This thread is all about da sematics :)

[Elvis_Christ]

To tell you the truth, it was the film that introduced me to this term and those types of film. :o


Someone's lived a sheltered life :p oh well lots of fun to be had introducing yourself to someof the classics.

[Staal]

This thread took an odd turn.

[Necromancer]

I think 'Cutting Moments' - A Family Portrait may be considered extreme.

[Staal]

Try some Takashi Miike (imprint/audition/gozu)

I dunno if its what you mean but films like Murder Set pieces/Guinea pig series/The August Underground frilms are pretty 'extreme'...

I've watched Three Extremes and Audition so far. They're good, but they aren't what I'm looking for. Having talked to some friends, I think I'm going to have to order the August Underground flicks.

[Elvis_Christ]

August Underground flicks.

The first one is tame and quite an average film don't let it put you off Mordum and Penance which are brilliant IMO. Mordum has some pretty vile scenes especially towards the end.

Have you seen The New York Ripper? Its quite a twisted flick.

[discodude]

extreme,id say that the a/underground and slaughtered vomit dolls are about the most extreme ive got.haute tension is quite graphic but has also got a good story and twist.make sure,has with all horror you view the uncut version.

[TheWickerFan]

Salo, The 120 Days Of Sodom - an Italian movie made in 1975 based on the novel by the Marquis De Sade. Seriously disturbing!

[spot]

If you liked Martyrs then try High Tension and Wolf Creek