Stephen King's IT

[_____V_____]

Warner Bros. is doing "It," tapping Dave Kajganich to adapt Stephen King's novel, with Dan Lin and Vertigo's Roy Lee and Doug Davison producing.

"It" centers on seven children in a small Maine town who confront the source of a series of murders in 1958 and again in 1985, when the cycle begins again.

The novel was previously adapted into a 1990 ABC miniseries.

Kajganich is also writing "Escape From New York" for Neal Moritz and New Line and "True Story" for Plan B to produce at Paramount Vantage, with Kevin McDonald attached to direct.

[phantomstranger]

Lets hope it's good, because there nothing worse than a big pile of "IT"

[Posher778]

Ooooh how exciting!

[ferretchucker]

I've always liked the adaptation with Tim Curry in it, though a theatrical version might be fun.

[davidd60]

I never saw the movie, or read the novel, but i hear its scary, sounds fun lol

[lucifreek]

I would watch the remake. It can't be that bad. I just hope they show more gore in the remake. And have scarier scenes. The original IT was scary as hell, and I loved the novel by Stephen King. I would like to see a remake though!

[creepycrawler23]

oh brother....here we go. they should leave out the giant mantis

[Bleedwalls]

It used to scare the hell out of me.

In fact I think this movie is the reason why so many of my friends have a fear of clowns.

When I got older and watched it I did not think it was that big of a deal. Rather corny actually. Especially the ending with the bike. Yuck!

[newb]

I never watched the original .


hmmmm....that's kind of odd.....maybe because it was a TV movie.

[Doc Faustus]

The tv movie lost a lot of the intellectual and spiritual core of the book. Hopefully this version won't.

[hacelikewhoa]

Can they leave just ONE of my favorite horror movies alone? Just one original left untouched? No, too much to ask for.

[Zero]

i actually think this could be good as i felt the tv version had lots of faults (curry was great but the adult actors were very weak)

[Assertion]

I just think that making anything king writes a movie should not be done. Soon we'll see dark tower, and that kinda just sucked at book three...

[The_Return]

i actually think this could be good as i felt the tv version had lots of faults (curry was great but the adult actors were very weak)

Agreed 100%.

I haven't read the book, but the original TV version - despite having LOTS of great elements - was pretty flawed. Pennywise was amazing, but the parts without him were fairly weak. I'll watch the remake for sure.

[Zero]

its funny - i read the book and liked it but remember thinking that the sections with the kids were great - but the sections with the adults were lame and cardboard. . . then, i felt the exact same way about the movie - the kids and pennywise were amazing - the walton johnboy sections were laughable

[Elvis_Christ]

The tv movie lost a lot of the intellectual and spiritual core of the book. Hopefully this version won't.

Yeh it was pretty dumbed down. Hopefully this will deliver on what was left out.
It's gonna be a pretty long flick if its a faithful adaption.

[Posher778]

Well, the part when they were children was great... The adult scenes... Not so much.

[Doc Faustus]

Such poor casting. The movie really predicted the future when it showed how much more engaging Seth Green was than Harry Anderson.

[Camp Blood 101]

Warner Bros. is doing "It," tapping Dave Kajganich to adapt Stephen King's novel, with Dan Lin and Vertigo's Roy Lee and Doug Davison producing.

"It" centers on seven children in a small Maine town who confront the source of a series of murders in 1958 and again in 1985, when the cycle begins again.

The novel was previously adapted into a 1990 ABC miniseries.

Kajganich is also writing "Escape From New York" for Neal Moritz and New Line and "True Story" for Plan B to produce at Paramount Vantage, with Kevin McDonald attached to direct.
i hope it's as good as the original movie, tim curry's acting as pennywise was creepy and awesome.

[freddy69]

i hope the remake is as good as the first it, IT is my fave. stephen king movie:D

[Cheetara101]

I love the Stephen King book "IT". The film was good and Tim Curry was classic as "Pennywise". I admit---I've always feared clowns and Tim Curry seems to bring the character to life beyond the film.

Personally, I think they should not REMAKE this film. I don't think anyone could capture the twisted essence of Pennywise like Tim Curry did.:eek:

Some movies they should just let be. What ever happened to originality? Oops! I forgot the filmmakers are running out of ideas and now want to remake films over & over again.:rolleyes:

[Angra]

To me this remake makes sense.

There's a LOT from the original that could be done better, especially the ending that was, lets be honest, an insult to the book.

Looking forward to see it.

[scouse mac]

Tim Curry was classic as "Pennywise". I admit---I've always feared clowns and Tim Curry seems to bring the character to life beyond the film.



Agree, Tim Curry was a really good Pennywise but I wouldn't mind a remake. There is nothing overly stunning about the first 'imagining' (:rolleyes: ) that couldnt be improved upon.

Ive never been afraid of clowns but I do have an irrational hatred of them.

[Jax]

They should have Bill Moseley or that guy who played Rosache as Pennywise, perhaps Frank Darabont ("Shawshank Redemption" and "Green Mile" including "Mist") as director.

[Cheetara101]

To me this remake makes sense.

There's a LOT from the original that could be done better, especially the ending that was, lets be honest, an insult to the book.

Looking forward to see it.

You make a good point. The original film didn't capture everything which was described in great detail in the book.

Zero mentioned earlier that the adults were quite lame---I agree. The characters were more charismatic as children. If there is a remake of this wonderful Stephen King tale I really hope that the director & everyone involved takes this seriously. I don't want to see another horror remake flop.

[Elvis_Christ]

They should have Bill Moseley

I'd love to see that happen!

[Living Dead Dude]

IT was ok. I like it a lot though! :eek:

[Angra]

They should have Bill Moseley

He should play Charles Manson, that's what he should..


A lot of actors could play Pennywise. Who says he has to sound like Tim Curry?

Personally i would prefer a more creepy sounding Pennywise in the remake.

[roseyred]

To me this remake makes sense.

There's a LOT from the original that could be done better, especially the ending that was, lets be honest, an insult to the book.

Looking forward to see it.

I agree with you. The book was very good but the movie left alot out. I love Tim Curry i felt like he was the best pennywise, I would love to see who they would cast today as him. Although i too am tired of the poorly made remake i think this remake makes sense. Im also looking forward to seeing it.

[horrorsniped]

Don't know if this was mentioned...but this is one of the SCARIEST films for me ever and they are officially remaking this film! It will be an "R-rated" film too! More info: http://showhype.com/story/writer_talks_making_it_remake_r_rated/

Also, check my site for the Limited Edition Tim Curry IT doll at http://www.horrorsniped.com

I also want to see how the Pet Sematary remake will do...that will be verrrry interesting.

[dkwrtw]

Couldn't be worse than the original, I'll watch it.

[Scarebaby]

oh brother....here we go. they should leave out the giant mantis

A mantis? I don't remember that from the book, or from the first movie. Oo

[friday13thfan]

Don't know if this was mentioned...but this is one of the SCARIEST films for me ever and they are officially remaking this film! It will be an "R-rated" film too! More info: http://showhype.com/story/writer_talks_making_it_remake_r_rated/

Also, check my site for the Limited Edition Tim Curry IT doll at http://www.horrorsniped.com

I also want to see how the Pet Sematary remake will do...that will be verrrry interesting.

*looks at first post* Yeah pretty sure it was mentioned.

[K.Diddy]

oh brother....here we go. they should leave out the giant mantis

:confused:You mean Giant spider?

[dkwrtw]

I'm sick of Stephen King Villains ending up as Giant Spiders.

[horrorsniped]

What the? I didn't see this topic when I did my search.....I guess I need to touch up my searching ability. I was wondering why my post got deleted. I still can't believe news for this remake was out in 2005! Where the hell does one get info that early? Unless it's the whole insder aspect. I never thought of checking if there would ever be a remake to this movie. Man I CAN'T WAIT for this :)

[TheShape78]

I'm looking forward to it. I'll definitely watch it.

[horrorsniped]

*looks at first post* Yeah pretty sure it was mentioned.

I made a thread relating to this movie but what the mod did was erase my thread and simply add my post to this existing thread. That's why it looks like I didn't make sense with that post...

[sorny]

Hi

Been searching the all day trying to find out as much as I can about a possible remake.

From what I can tell WB was going to green light a remake.
However that was the last of it.

A screen writer apparently wrote a screenplay. However it was only long enough for a 2 hour movie.

This doesn't sound like a good idea. Based on the length of the book a true remake would be at least a 2 part movie. 2 hours+ each.

Anyone have any thoughts or news?

[The Villain]

They would have to do it in parts like how they're planning on doing The Stand. They could probably do one half as the kids and the other as adults but i think that would seem repetitive. I liked how in the book it went back and forth. I havent seen the miniseries in a long time and i cant exactly remember how they did it in that but i think it was the same as the book. I know they left a lot out. I would like to see a version of it that was truer to the book.

[leezuki]

yes i liked the old movie it, but i watched the movie a while ago and i think it would be good to revamp it. i would love to see a remake with a new look to it.but i love tim curry as penny wise.

[William Seabrook]

yes i liked the old movie it, but i watched the movie a while ago and i think it would be good to revamp it. i would love to see a remake with a new look to it.but i love tim curry as penny wise.

Yea, He really made the movie

[Rela1024]

Now this is a remake I would definitely see! I didn't care too much for the original so seeing how that would mix stuff up would be cool

[haikujunkie]

Tim Curry will be impossible to replace as Pennywise, but I do think IT would be worth revamping. It's one's of King's best novels. And this time, I wanna see a giant turtle and the dead lights.

Also, I think a law needs to be passed that only Frank Daranbot should be allowed to adapt Stephen King's material. He's the only one who can do any justice at all to King's work.

Having said all that . . . no matter who does it, no matter how terrible it may be, I'll be on board to see it. Because I'm a diehard Stephen King fan girl.

[yblehsspot]

I wouldn't mind them remaking it, as long as they did it right. I hate when the remakes suck a$$, because in-a-way, it's like they're harming the actual movie that they tried to improve. And alot of times, if the remakes suck, then people won't want to take the time to watch the actual one; thinking that it's bad just like the remake. But if they do it right, it could be interesting and maybe even good.

[The Villain]

I wouldn't mind them remaking it, as long as they did it right. I hate when the remakes suck a$$, because in-a-way, it's like they're harming the actual movie that they tried to improve. And alot of times, if the remakes suck, then people won't want to take the time to watch the actual one; thinking that it's bad just like the remake. But if they do it right, it could be interesting and maybe even good.

I hope a lot of people don't think that way. That's a pretty ignorant and lazy way of thinking if you ask me.

[yblehsspot]

I hope a lot of people don't think that way. That's a pretty ignorant and lazy way of thinking if you ask me.

Sad thing is, alot of people I know do think that way. I've been trying to get them to open up and watch the movies, but they refuse to. Grrr...So many people I know are super narrow-minded :mad:

[The Villain]

Sad thing is, alot of people I know do think that way. I've been trying to get them to open up and watch the movies, but they refuse to. Grrr...So many people I know are super narrow-minded :mad:

Same here. A lot of people i know, especially those my age, don't seem to want to watch older movies which is a real shame.

[yblehsspot]

Same here. A lot of people i know, especially those my age, don't seem to want to watch older movies which is a real shame.

That is soo true and I know exactly what you mean. It's like alot of people don't have appreation(sp) for the older ones. Even though the older ones- I feel- were alot better at times, since they left alot more to your imgination(sp) and ended up being better for it. When now they show you every little thing, and it kinda ruins the effects that the movies are trying to achieve.
Ps. Sorry if my spelling sucks today.

[The Villain]

That is soo true and I know exactly what you mean. It's like alot of people don't have appreation(sp) for the older ones. Even though the older ones- I feel- were alot better at times, since they left alot more to your imgination(sp) and ended up being better for it. When now they show you every little thing, and it kinda ruins the effects that the movies are trying to achieve.
Ps. Sorry if my spelling sucks today.

Sometimes i like it when they leave things to your imagination, other times i don't but usually i enjoy the older movies because there just seems to be more respect, emotion and passion involved with them instead of the money driven machines we have making some movies nowadays. Don't worry about the spelling, my grammar is always messed up. ;)

Back to the original point, if they do in fact make this i hope it stays true to the novel and i hope they get someone good to play Pennywise. As much as i enjoyed Tim Curry there really is no point on reusing him because we've seen that already and the point of a remake is to do things differently.

[yblehsspot]

Sometimes i like it when they leave things to your imagination, other times i don't but usually i enjoy the older movies because there just seems to be more respect, emotion and passion involved with them instead of the money driven machines we have making some movies nowadays. Don't worry about the spelling, my grammar is always messed up. ;)

Back to the original point, if they do in fact make this i hope it stays true to the novel and i hope they get someone good to play Pennywise. As much as i enjoyed Tim Curry there really is no point on reusing him because we've seen that already and the point of a remake is to do things differently.

That was another reason I've always liked the older ones too. The people who were in them, did it because they love acting and wanted to be in a movie. Now they just do it for a paycheck and its annoying because it doesn't have the same effect at all. And very true, hopefully they'll pick someone good who wants to do it because they love acting, rather than, once again; for the paycheck.

[headswillroll]

Oh, I so can't wait until this comes out. I'll be watching it for a sure fact. Let's hope it will be near as good as the original. Still need to read the book, though. Will SK be producing or anything? I haven't really bothered nosing around for news on it all.

[TopNotchMovies]

Hello,
That sounds interesting.
I loved the original film!
Let's see what comes out of it!:)

[leezuki]

That was another reason I've always liked the older ones too. The people who were in them, did it because they love acting and wanted to be in a movie. Now they just do it for a paycheck and its annoying because it doesn't have the same effect at all. And very true, hopefully they'll pick someone good who wants to do it because they love acting, rather than, once again; for the paycheck.

very true actors worked so much harder back then, i love the old movies as much as new. back then alot more was left to your imagination so the acting and story had to be good, and i still love watching black and white movies, and i love technicolor movies.

[yblehsspot]

very true actors worked so much harder back then, i love the old movies as much as new. back then alot more was left to your imagination so the acting and story had to be good, and i still love watching black and white movies, and i love technicolor movies.

I agree with that so much! A while ago I had this whole rant on why I like the older horror movies better; People actually doing it because they loved acting, not just for the paycheck; it left much more to your imagination since you could come up with something 20x scarier then that they could show you; ectect. Now when I see some movies it's like "well this was clearly a movie that they did just for the monies, not because they like to act".

[Pariah.]

Does anyone know where this film is at in production?

It is supposed to be out this year but I can't find any news on it online and we've only got a few months left.

I hope they redo the blood-balloon scene. So simple but so... is there a word for awesome and creepy? ;)

[hammerfan]

Does anyone know where this film is at in production?

Have you checked on www.imdb.com?

[Pariah.]

Its not there as far as I can see, the old one is, but no mention of the new one.

[The Villain]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1396484/

BLAMMO!!!

[neverending]

It's there, but there isn't much info:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1396484/

You beat me to "It" Villain. :p

[The Villain]

It's there, but there isn't much info:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1396484/

You beat me to "It" Villain. :p

Haha yes!! :D

[Pariah.]

Thanks guys. I tried searching for Stephen King and Stephen King's It and Stephen King's IT New and NEW IT and it didnt occur to me to look for 2012.

Champion.

[neverending]

I just did a title search for "It."

[Pariah.]

When I did that it automatically took me to the 1990's version's page. Weird.

[Fearonsarms]

When I did that it automatically took me to the 1990's version's page. Weird.

IMDB does that with some films-it's happened to me a few times.

[The Villain]

I just did a title search for "It."

That's the exact same thing i did.

[RetroRob]

It used to scare the hell out of me.

In fact I think this movie is the reason why so many of my friends have a fear of clowns.

When I got older and watched it I did not think it was that big of a deal. Rather corny actually. Especially the ending with the bike. Yuck!

Clowns are always scary. I never liked them as a kid, and that was before I ever read or saw IT! And, yeah, Pennywise the dancing clown didn't help me love them any more.

IT the miniseries started off well, but it really kind of fell apart and the ending was totally lame. Hopefully the remake does it well.

Very few of King's novels have been turned into great movies. Some may say the Shining is the best of his works to make it to the big screen, but my favorite is the Dead Zone. (Stand by Me is excellent, but discounting that here since it's non-horror.)

Any other favorites?

[Angra]

Very few of King's novels have been turned into great movies. Some may say the Shining is the best of his works to make it to the big screen, but my favorite is the Dead Zone.



But most people would agree that Shawshank Redemption is the best King adaption ever. Coz it is. :D

[Elvis_Christ]

But most people would agree that Shawshank Redemption is the best King adaption ever. Coz it is. :D

No you're wrong dude. Everyone knows Maximum Overdrive is the finest SK feature.

[ABjerg]

I've waited on a remake to this! Hope it's fucking scary!

[Fearonsarms]

No you're wrong dude. Everyone knows Maximum Overdrive is the finest SK feature.

I agree that Maximum Overdrive is too underrated-great movie. Pet Sematary is the best tho

[The Villain]

I agree that Maximum Overdrive is too underrated-great movie. Pet Sematary is the best tho

I like both of those. I also think Cujo, Firestarter, The Tommyknockers, and Carrie were really good.

[Fearonsarms]

I loved Firestarter and Carrie but wasn't too keen on the Tommyknockers-haven't seen Cujo yet though.

[The Villain]

I loved Firestarter and Carrie but wasn't too keen on the Tommyknockers-haven't seen Cujo yet though.

You should check it out. It's pretty good although i still prefer the book better.

[Fearonsarms]

Not read the book either but yeah I'll check it out.

[crazy raplh]

He should play Charles Manson, that's what he should..


A lot of actors could play Pennywise. Who says he has to sound like Tim Curry?

Personally i would prefer a more creepy sounding Pennywise in the remake.

I think charlie Sheen should play Pennywise, but I think they could for one shorten it and make a more intence connnection between pennywise and the charactors, like maybe suduces the women or something

[The Villain]

I think charlie Sheen should play Pennywise, but I think they could for one shorten it and make a more intence connnection between pennywise and the charactors, like maybe suduces the women or something

I think that's the worst idea i've ever heard

[Angra]

I think that's the worst idea i've ever heard

Yea.. Sound's like Two And A Half Men all over.

[crazy raplh]

Yea.. Sound's like Two And A Half Men all over.

LOL exactly :)

[Bob Gray]

IT has a new director, check it out: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stephen-kings-be-adapted-by-334899

[The Villain]

I honestly don't know how to feel about this

[Bob Gray]

I really don't either. I would love to see a great adaptation of IT and I do have hope. The fact that it will be split into two movies may allow enough room to really tell the tale but until I know the script is staying true to the story I will remain skeptical. A few years ago they were in talks to remake IT but the studio wanted it to be just one movie and the timeline had changed so that the Losers grew up in the 80's and were adults in the 2000's. Those two things would have completely ruined it. If they try to do any stupid sh*t like that, I won't even bother watching it.

[Posher778]

Tired of being tossed around hearing about who is and isn't directing this.


Who.
Is.
The.
Clown?

[wizard of gore]

ahh need to hurry up and read the book

[Fearonsarms]

ahh need to hurry up and read the book

Me too but boy it's long and taking me a while even in ebook form so I haven't the excuse of needing my specs.

[Angra]

Tired of being tossed around hearing about who is and isn't directing this.


Who.
Is.
The.
Clown?

Apparently Bill Skarsgard.

Kind of an odd choice if you ask me. Sure, he will probably look creepy as a clown but can he SOUND creepy as well? And he's very young..

[Ms.Macabre_91]

I have mixed feelings when it comes to remake,but I'll give it a watch just for curiosity sake.

[SerialKiller]

Dislike remakes 99% of the time. Watching anyways just for fun.

[anglewitch]

Dislike remakes 99% of the time. Watching anyways just for fun.

100% for me...
Then again I enjoyed the step father 3 remake. So actually yeah 99%

[RollinFan]

So is the remake going to have all six boys having sex with the girl, or are we all going to pretend that isn't a big part of the book? Or are we going to bump all of the kids up to 18 year olds, like the US version of "The Returned"? I think this particular bit of quicksand is what keeps stalling the remakes on this one. And I agree, the bit at the end of the TV movie, with the bicycle? Truly awful. Makes you throw things at the TV.

[cheebacheeba]

100% for me...
Then again I enjoyed the step father 3 remake. So actually yeah 99%
Cmon...Dawn '04?

[Angra]

What do you guys think of the choice of actor for Pennywise?

[jwilliams]

100% for me...
Then again I enjoyed the step father 3 remake. So actually yeah 99%

Am I the only one who enjoyed Amityville Horror and The Hills Have Eyes remakes?

[horrifyou]

Am I the only one who enjoyed Amityville Horror and The Hills Have Eyes remakes?

Yeah, I think you are the only one. My co-host and I constantly have this argument so perhaps you (or anyone) can weigh in - why not just watch the originals? No remake has ever been better than the original (by definition it can't) so why not just leave well enough alone and watch the original?

Dante
http://horrifyou.com

[Anchen]

What do you guys think of the choice of actor for Pennywise?

Supremely unconvinced, expectations overwhelmingly low.

But who knows, maybe some 26-year old, kind of odd-looking Swedish dude was part of the director's vision. Maybe he was all they could afford. Maybe de has a really pushy agent determined to make him a horror icon after he starred in Hemlock Grove.

Bah, I think they're going to screw it up, which would blow, because the next generation of kids deserve the same chance to be traumatized-by-clown as we had.

[Angra]

Supremely unconvinced, expectations overwhelmingly low.

But who knows, maybe some 26-year old, kind of odd-looking Swedish dude was part of the director's vision. Maybe he was all they could afford. Maybe de has a really pushy agent determined to make him a horror icon after he starred in Hemlock Grove.

Bah, I think they're going to screw it up, which would blow, because the next generation of kids deserve the same chance to be traumatized-by-clown as we had.

As the original movie was very far from being a great adaption of Stephen King's masterpiece, I do have hopes for this one. Especially the ending.

[jwilliams]

Yeah, I think you are the only one. My co-host and I constantly have this argument so perhaps you (or anyone) can weigh in - why not just watch the originals? No remake has ever been better than the original (by definition it can't) so why not just leave well enough alone and watch the original?

Dante
http://horrifyou.com

You mean ANY remake or just remakes of those two horrors I mentioned?

[Jake.Ashworth]

I think the new Pennywise looks excellent. People are complaining but I like the idea that he would draw from the looks of an era past. It makes sense seeing as he has existed forever. We also don't know if the released picture is Bad Pennywise or attractive Good Pennywise. People are jumping to conclusions way to fast.

[hammerfan]

I think the new Pennywise looks excellent. People are complaining but I like the idea that he would draw from the looks of an era past. It makes sense seeing as he has existed forever. We also don't know if the released picture is Bad Pennywise or attractive Good Pennywise. People are jumping to conclusions way to fast.

Agreed

[brainscan]

it looks like it will be OK, and maybe this will help some people. I think of every remake as a multiverse of the original. The made of TV movie Turtles Forever helped me with that so whenever there is a remake i think of it as that universes original so that makes it OK, Yeah things are a little different each time but that is because that is how it happened in that universe. It's like ours the Prime and the remakes are different branches of it in the other universes. It helped me a lot to be able to enjoy more movies ^_^

[anglewitch]

If it's a remake of a film that is already good it's going to stink! Besides it wouldn't have the same great quality as the original. PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGINATION!

[Jake.Ashworth]

If it's a remake of a film that is already good it's going to stink! Besides it wouldn't have the same great quality as the original. PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGINATION!

Even if the original was a made for TV mini series that technically was a poor adaptation of a excellent book. I would tell you this, read the book, then rewatch the miniseries, then make judgment's about the new one.

Your generalizing a much broader sub genre of horror (the remake) most movies are "remakes" with enough tweaks to make you forget there was an original.

[Jake.Ashworth]

it looks like it will be OK, and maybe this will help some people. I think of every remake as a multiverse of the original. The made of TV movie Turtles Forever helped me with that so whenever there is a remake i think of it as that universes original so that makes it OK, Yeah things are a little different each time but that is because that is how it happened in that universe. It's like ours the Prime and the remakes are different branches of it in the other universes. It helped me a lot to be able to enjoy more movies ^_^

An interesting take, are you a Dark Tower fan? Your mindset would fit in well with us. If you haven't read it yet, you should give it a try.

People stress too much about a remake being the same. If they wanted to make the same movie they wouldn't put forth the effort. Regardless of weather a movie is a remake it needs to be taken in as a whole new movie. Enjoy what it does well and allow it to capture the imaginations of a whole new era of genre fans.

[brainscan]

An interesting take, are you a Dark Tower fan? Your mindset would fit in well with us. If you haven't read it yet, you should give it a try.

People stress too much about a remake being the same. If they wanted to make the same movie they wouldn't put forth the effort. Regardless of weather a movie is a remake it needs to be taken in as a whole new movie. Enjoy what it does well and allow it to capture the imaginations of a whole new era of genre fans.

i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too. and no i never got into Dark Tower

[Jake.Ashworth]

i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too. and no i never got into Dark Tower

New ideas are really an idea of their own. Almost anything, no matter how fresh it is, can be tied back to a base story that relates to another movie. This new IT, I have very high hopes for. The little clips that leaked out from behind the scenes already show The Leper, who was in the book but never in the original movie. The problem so far with all of the Stephen King adaptations is that he puts so much amazing, imaginative detail in the stories, that most studios don't want to front the money to make real on screen. So far it seems that they are fronting the money on this one. Hopefully we get four hours of solid, brutal, R rated filth. Its really what the first one should have been, and could have been had it not been shot for TV.

We also need to remember as a whole, that Pennywise was one of MANY forms IT took in the book. It was the most memorable, but not the only by any means. It preys on your fears and finds a recognizable way to destroy you. I recommend going into this "remake" as though it where its own stand alone film, also, read the book first.

As for the Tower, it calls some and passes by many. But it is by far my favorite story ever written. Its beautiful and grotesque and infatuating all in one. I cant wait to see it on screen in February.

[anglewitch]

i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I could write a script for a short film with original ideas right now if I wanted to. You wanna know why and how? Because I read books. Reading books of different genres will give you the mind of a great director! A lot of these people who do remakes of GOOD films are bloody zombie vegetables. There's an infinite source of ideas out there that are just itching to be molded into form, but do we use them? NO! Instead we use other peoples ideas!

[Jake.Ashworth]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I could write a script for a short film with original ideas right now if I wanted to. You wanna know why and how? Because I read books. Reading books of different genres will give you the mind of a great director! A lot of these people who do remakes of GOOD films are bloody zombie vegetables. There's an infinite source of ideas out there that are just itching to be molded into form, but do we use them? NO! Instead we use other peoples ideas!

More agreeing to disagree. I don't think there are any original ideas left. At least a self admitted remake/reboot is not trying to cover up how trivial it truly is to try to make an original film. At the end of the day, its us, the silly public that don't want to see the movies we loved as children remade. I think we are generally scared that a remake will be better, thus breaking our childhood so we se them through shit colored glasses. Go back and watch IT, I watched it again over the weekend with my oldest son (9), its a bad movie... Of course Tim Curry is great and they had excellent child actors, but the movie is not good and its a terrible representation of the book. What worse is, if you go back and watch a lot of the "classics" that we fear being remade, they aren't good movies. But they where awesome when we saw them as kids. I say remake them all, then remake the remakes. Its not like there has been shit for original films in the last five years that have been worth a damn anyway.

[anglewitch]

Has man sunk so low to have forgotten the gift of literature?
There are plenty of ideas out there. I am suprised that certain stories such as Soloman Kane, Robert Asprins MYTH series, and certain Agatha Christie stories have not been made into movies or tv shows.

[Jake.Ashworth]

Has man sunk so low to have forgotten the gift of literature?
There are plenty of ideas out there. I am suprised that certain stories such as Soloman Kane, Robert Asprins MYTH series, and certain Agatha Christie stories have not been made into movies or tv shows.

The problem there lies in public interest. There is no reason to make a movie that isn't going to profit. A select few people will make their way to see a movie that has so little backing. It costs millions of dollars to make a decent movie. There has to be wide appeal, there has to be an audience. I could name off a hundred books I would love to see on film but I cant say enough people would want to see it for a company to make money on the venture.

All of that aside, all your point did was solidify my stance that nothing is original. Turning books into movies isn't very original... Not to mention all of the people who would do exactly what you do with remakes "The movie wont do the book justice, they should just leave well enough alone."

[anglewitch]

That's it, I going to stay out of these threads about remakes since I am making an utter fool of myself.

Verdammt!

[Jake.Ashworth]

That's it, I going to stay out of these threads about remakes since I am making an utter fool of myself.

Verdammt!

Your absolutely not making a fool of yourself! Its healthy debate, its a good thing. Its how new ideas are created.

I personally think that the reason most remakes fail is because the studio/directors/producers/actors are terrified to make something that isn't going to hit all the key places. They are scared of angering the fans and instead they refine it to such a degree its not fun anymore. The reason the originals where fun is strictly because the people making it didn't give a shit and they made what they wanted. Now everyone is so geared up about scaring off the audience that its impossible to make a good film.

[anglewitch]

Your absolutely not making a fool of yourself! Its healthy debate, its a good thing. Its how new ideas are created.

I personally think that the reason most remakes fail is because the studio/directors/producers/actors are terrified to make something that isn't going to hit all the key places. They are scared of angering the fans and instead they refine it to such a degree its not fun anymore. The reason the originals where fun is strictly because the people making it didn't give a shit and they made what they wanted. Now everyone is so geared up about scaring off the audience that its impossible to make a good film.

In other words, they destroy the fun of horror.

[Jake.Ashworth]

In other words, they destroy the fun of horror.

I think they are forced to destroy the fun of horror because we are too critical as a audience. I watch and enjoy almost every movie out there, because somebody put their life into it. Somebody bled for what they thought would be right. Its why I love low budget movies. The acting is terrible, the lighting is usually bad, but its somebodies passion and it comes through if you look for it.

Im just saying, if we went to movies expecting to like them, no matter the genre or connotation we would see a revival of the classics and maybe even new classics. How badly would you want to make another movie if your first got shit on uncontrollably by the demo you where trying to reach.

FOR EXAMPLE! Lol. Have you seen Underworld (1985)? The first full length film Clive Barker made? Its horrible. But in 1985 you didn't have the internet and trolls to destroy a movie before it had a chance, you had to go and see it. Two year later I think he made Hellraiser. What if Underworld was released today and Hellraiser hadn't come out yet. People would have destroyed it and potentially killed Barkers want to create anything else.

As an audience, we are crushing the creativity of potentially excellent writers and directors before they get an opportunity to create their masterpieces because we are too high and mighty to just enjoy a film for what it is.

Rant... Over....

[anglewitch]

I think they are forced to destroy the fun of horror because we are too critical as a audience. I watch and enjoy almost every movie out there, because somebody put their life into it. Somebody bled for what they thought would be right. Its why I love low budget movies. The acting is terrible, the lighting is usually bad, but its somebodies passion and it comes through if you look for it.

Im just saying, if we went to movies expecting to like them, no matter the genre or connotation we would see a revival of the classics and maybe even new classics. How badly would you want to make another movie if your first got shit on uncontrollably by the demo you where trying to reach.

FOR EXAMPLE! Lol. Have you seen Underworld (1985)? The first full length film Clive Barker made? Its horrible. But in 1985 you didn't have the internet and trolls to destroy a movie before it had a chance, you had to go and see it. Two year later I think he made Hellraiser. What if Underworld was released today and Hellraiser hadn't come out yet. People would have destroyed it and potentially killed Barkers want to create anything else.

As an audience, we are crushing the creativity of potentially excellent writers and directors before they get an opportunity to create their masterpieces because we are too high and mighty to just enjoy a film for what it is.

Rant... Over....

Right on.
Keep on ranting brother Jake. ::big grin::::wink::
Buuuurrrp!

[Goathead]

So there was a new picture of the new Pennywise published.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtSrd2xWEAEQPel.jpg

Source: http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3407960/see-pennywise-action-sorta-stephen-kings/

[Jake.Ashworth]

Still happy, waiting impatiently for a trailer... For this and Power Rangers which should have a trailer in the next couple weeks.

[Fake Shemp]

x

[Goathead]

Still happy, waiting impatiently for a trailer... For this and Power Rangers which should have a trailer in the next couple weeks.

I guess we'll have to wait for a trailer at least until spring :/

[NightOfTheLiving_Sam]

I've seen the trailer recently. I loved the original and I plan on reading the book again. By the trailer it looks alright. I just hope they don't mess it up. I've always loved IT since I was younger. If it gets bad reviews, I'll more than likely wait until it comes out on DVD or something.

Here's the trailer. What does everyone else think? Think it'll be worth seeing in the theater?

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[Angra]

I've seen the trailer recently. I loved the original and I plan on reading the book again. By the trailer it looks alright. I just hope they don't mess it up. I've always loved IT since I was younger. If it gets bad reviews, I'll more than likely wait until it comes out on DVD or something.

Here's the trailer. What does everyone else think? Think it'll be worth seeing in the theater?

7no56Zw1e20

I thought it was a great trailer. The movie can't be worse than the first one, so I really look forward to it. Hope it'll be at least 3 hours long.

[roshiq]

I thought it was a great trailer. The movie can't be worse than the first one, so I really look forward to it. Hope it'll be at least 3 hours long.

I don't think it'll have that amount of running time, may be 1:45 or 2 hrs at best. Wikipedia says there will be a sequel "from the point of view of the adults"!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(2017_film)#Future (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(2017_film)#Future)

Don't know exactly why...may be I liked that TV movie too much or for Tim Curry, this trailer just didn't give me enough goosebumps or excitements that it supposed to deliver or I was expecting.

[MichaelMyers]

BEEP BEEP Roshiq!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7Gja3qcL74M/hqdefault.jpg

[roshiq]

BEEP BEEP Roshiq!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7Gja3qcL74M/hqdefault.jpg


::EEK!::

[The Villain]

Im really looking forward to this. The trailer was great

[tfantasy]

Im really looking forward to this. The trailer was great

Me too!!!!!!!

[Repo'd]

Me too!!!!!!!


Me too, and HELLOOO Tfan!! Been too long!

[Roiffalo]

I just came across the trailer today on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnCdOQsX5kc) and actually... If the writing is smart, and the ending is changed... This has a lot of potential to be better than the original. (Keep in mind that's not saying a lot considering how much I don't care for the original.)

[diezman]

I love the original and I'm really looking forward to seeing the new one.

I don't get bent out of shape when a movie is a remake. If it can bring something new and different to the table then I'm game.

However, the book is very long. The original left quite a bit out due to time constraints. I'm curious how they are going to make this work with a shorter running time. Will this movie be the start of a series? Will it only be 2 parts? Will they cram as much as they can into a 1.5 to 2 hour time space? Or will the movie be 3 hours or longer?::confused:: I'm curious. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised.

We shall see::wink:: Still very much looking forward to this!

[Toddallthingshorror]

Just re-watched the original after that trailer came out. Still holds up.

As for the new one... I dont like the look of him at all..looks more goofy than sinister. I know Pennywise didnt look scary at all but thats what made it work. Non scary costume with an excellent and creepy performance. This guy looks like they're trying to hard. The trailer looked good but that moment where he ran at the camera yelling was just unintentionally hilarious. I look forward to it..but not am jumping on the bandwagon that I see around the web.

[BloodRaptor]

I haven't even seen the original. (who the hell decided clowns would be scary?) New one don't look too bad though, I might give it a watch. Anyone think I should watch the original too just fer reference 'r is it not worth it?

[MichaelMyers]

I haven't even seen the original. (who the hell decided clowns would be scary?) New one don't look too bad though, I might give it a watch. Anyone think I should watch the original too just fer reference 'r is it not worth it?

Yes watch it with Roiff.

[Roiffalo]

Yes watch it with Roiff.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! ::EEK!::

[BloodRaptor]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! ::EEK!::

HAHAHA! The forums have spoken, ya gotta suffer with me, Doberman. XD

[Roiffalo]

HAHAHA! The forums have spoken, ya gotta suffer with me, Doberman. XD

Why do you enjoy seeing me in pain.

[Jake.Ashworth]

Im coming in late on this one, but GOD I am so stoked for this freaking thing.

[Repo'd]

Im coming in late on this one, but GOD I am so stoked for this freaking thing.

I'm ready. Only a couple more months of waiting!

[Jake.Ashworth]

I'm ready. Only a couple more months of waiting!

Im ok with that, I have the Dark Tower next month to break it up. Im also pretty stoked about that, I am a huge Tower freak.

[Repo'd]

Im ok with that, I have the Dark Tower next month to break it up. Im also pretty stoked about that, I am a huge Tower freak.

I haven't read any of the DT series. I like a lot of King but I'm far from one of his most fervent fans. I've considered digging into Dark Tower but I'm also thinking of just checking out the movie.
Now, IT I am a huge fan of. Loved the book and was incredibly disappointed in the mini series. My expectations are high for the new version, but I am very optimistic I won't be let down.


Says the long suffering and often disappointed Horror geek. ::big grin::::big grin::

[Jake.Ashworth]

I haven't read any of the DT series. I like a lot of King but I'm far from one of his most fervent fans. I've considered digging into Dark Tower but I'm also thinking of just checking out the movie.
Now, IT I am a huge fan of. Loved the book and was incredibly disappointed in the mini series. My expectations are high for the new version, but I am very optimistic I won't be let down.


Says the long suffering and often disappointed Horror geek. ::big grin::::big grin::

I dont tend to be disappointed. Im the kind of horror geek that can find the good in everything.

The Dark Tower move will play out as a semi sequel to the books. They built it so you dont have to know the story, but holy shit, the story is so freaking deep. You need to get into it. Just read the first book, its only like 250 pages. If your not hooked, then give up. But Im betting on you'll be hooked. It also helps that the Dark Tower ties together damn near every Stephen King book there is. It makes everything he has written that much more interesting because once you've been to the Tower, you find yourself looking for connections and finding them everywhere.

[Roiffalo]

I'll be happy if the movie is half as cool as this friggin' artwork. I'm completely jealous.

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[MichaelMyers]

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[Jake.Ashworth]

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I just saw that a little while ago. Literally gave me chills. There are a couple of flashes of scenes in there that I was praying would be. I am completely, 100% in. I was a little nervous about Pennywise at first but holy shit hes creepy as fuck. I cant wait to see the werewolf and the mummy.

On a side note. What if... So this movie is based in the 80's instead of the 60's. The mummy and the werewolf, the "Universal monsters" had lost some of their edge in the 80's and kids weren't as scared of them. This movie is being made by New Line. New Line owns Nightmare on Elm Street. What if we get a Pennywise Freddy instead of a Pennywise Mummy?

[MichaelMyers]

Alright Jake. Pick up stakes, this is the place for you and yours.

http://www.freaklore.com/haunted-clown-motel-now-up-for-grabs

[Roiffalo]

Alright Jake. Pick up stakes, this is the place for you and yours.

http://www.freaklore.com/haunted-clown-motel-now-up-for-grabs

Free WiFi and allows pets? Hell yes.

[Jake.Ashworth]

Free WiFi and allows pets? Hell yes.

Ahhhh! I saw that place on Ghost Adventures I think. Lol. Roiffalo, you coming too? My wife may not like it, but we can all be buddies!

[MichaelMyers]

Ahhhh! I saw that place on Ghost Adventures I think. Lol. Roiffalo, you coming too? My wife may not like it, but we can all be buddies!

Pretty sure there's rooms to spare for every HDC regular. Dibs on the one nearest the cemetery.

[Jake.Ashworth]

Pretty sure there's rooms to spare for every HDC regular. Dibs on the one nearest the cemetery.

Deal but only if we can have a full blown seance.

[Roiffalo]

Ahhhh! I saw that place on Ghost Adventures I think. Lol. Roiffalo, you coming too? My wife may not like it, but we can all be buddies!

Pretty sure there's rooms to spare for every HDC regular. Dibs on the one nearest the cemetery.
Mike is not wrong! Certainly count me in. ::wink::

Deal but only if we can have a full blown seance.
Well of COURSE, I already expected one was planned. ::roll eyes::

[Jake.Ashworth]

Mike is not wrong! Certainly count me in. ::wink::


Well of COURSE, I already expected one was planned. ::roll eyes::

Ive got the candles, chalk and salt. I need someone to bring the virgin...

[Roiffalo]

Ive got the candles, chalk and salt. I need someone to bring the virgin...

My favorite candidates sadly aren't virgins. They're very hard to come by these days. ::sad::

[Jake.Ashworth]

My favorite candidates sadly aren't virgins. They're very hard to come by these days. ::sad::

True, Ive already had to have "the talk" with my 10 year old. It was terrible. I basically just let him watch Teeth... Lol!

[Repo'd]

True, Ive already had to have "the talk" with my 10 year old. It was terrible. I basically just let him watch Teeth... Lol!


::big grin::::big grin::::big grin::::smile::

[Roiffalo]

True, Ive already had to have "the talk" with my 10 year old. It was terrible. I basically just let him watch Teeth... Lol!

http://i.imgur.com/16JTTxA.gif

[Jake.Ashworth]

Yall cant see it but I am bowing over here. Im pretty proud of that one.

[MichaelMyers]

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/it-box-office-1202530858/

“It” will float to the top of the box office heap when it hits theaters next month.

Initial tracking suggests that the Stephen King adaptation is on pace to open to more than $50 million when it premieres in the U.S. on Sept. 8, 2017. That’s a massive number, one that’s usually reserved for summer debuts or holiday launches. Plus, “It” carries an R-rating, with its director Andrés Muschietti telling Variety last month that the film doesn’t skimp on the gore.

“I’m so excited that it’s rated R,” he said. “I don’t feel that we held back in any aspect.”

“It” is one of King’s most beloved books, and anticipation has been high for the movie version. The initial trailer attracted 197 million views in its first 24 hours of release.

Sources close to the studio caution that the $50 million-plus number could be inflated, noting that the biggest September opening of all time was “Hotel Transylvania 2’s” $48 million debut, and this film carries an R-rating. They also note that even well-known horror franchises such as “Annabelle” failed to crack the $40 million mark in their opening weekends. Those sources believe an opening in the $40 million-range is more likely. Still, all signs are that “It” will be a major hit for the studio and should kick off the fall moviegoing season on a high note.

“It’s” likely success is also good news for the theatrical movie business. The summer box office has been battered by a series of film flops such as “King Arthur: Legend of the Sword,” “Baywatch,” and “Transformers: The Last Knight.” Ticket sales are down more than 4% for the year.

Warner Bros. and New Line are backing the film, which centers on a group of kids who face off with a terrifying monster who eats children and assumes the guise of a clown named Pennywise. The studio is already working on a sequel that will follow the children after they become adults.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/it-box-office-1202530858/

[TheWaywardFest]

Trailer looked fantastic. Big fan of Stephen King and rather liked Muschietti’s Mama as well. Definitely going to be checking this one out.

[MichaelMyers]

This film, from a genre Hollywood has spit on for decades, might single-handedly save the movie industry. http://deadline.com/2017/09/labor-day-weekend-box-office-hitmans-bodyguard-close-encounters-of-third-kind-tulip-fever-marvel-inhumans-1202159557/

horrorcrux are the theaters empty where you work? Less popcorn to sweep up I guess.

[hammerfan]

So? Did anyone see It last night?

[The Villain]

I'm going on Sunday to see it

[Roiffalo]

My aunt is interested in going to see it, so we'll likely go soon. Just need to settle on a day (maybe even tomorrow afternoon because matinee idk).

[roshiq]

Damn! Still there's no confirmation about IT's release here from the local theaters!::sad::

[MichaelMyers]

Damn! Still there's no confirmation about IT's release here from the local theaters!::sad::

Dress up in a clown outfit and stare at them from across the street. That will get them moving.

[roshiq]

Dress up in a clown outfit and stare at them from across the street. That will get them moving.

lolz! No need for that, I guess, as just yesterday one of the theaters posted IT trailer on their FB page with the note...Coming Soon! Hopefully IT will start to floating around here from this Friday!

[Roiffalo]

Damn! Still there's no confirmation about IT's release here from the local theaters!::sad::

Damn you must live in an even smaller town than I do. Our local theater can only have 3 movies in at a time and even we have IT playing.

[HorrorNights]

I have seen IT twice and really enjoyed it both times. The kids all gave quality performances with some really standing out, especially Sophia Lillis. Bill Skarsgård was great as Pennywise. Just the way Pennywise was realized throughout the movie was effectively creepy.

The movie did not feel too long either time. The first time it seemed like there was more to tell. The second time it felt like it rushed through.

Well done!

[MichaelMyers]

Saw this last night. Sad to say Tim Curry was a better Pennywise. Even though he didn't have these moves. Learning this jig for Halloween.

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[tfantasy]

WOW......I absolutely LOVED this movie!!!!!! I loved the characters and I think it was one of the creepiest clowns I have ever seen!! The humor was very entertaining and the gore effect was amazing, I'm glad it was rated R. I can't wait to buy it!!

[Kat]

Saw IT - looked good to me, though it didn't scare me in the slightest.

[Roiffalo]

Still not over the library basement scene. ::EEK!::