So I Noticed...

[Posher778]

The Tournament of Bands thread has mysteriously vanished. Care to explain why?

[Zero]

wow - this is getting a bit much.

posh and i have a little tiff - hey we're still buddies - and the whole thread not only stops but get erased? that seems a bit severe to me.

who is moderating this place - miss manners???

[bloodrayne]

Maybe it was moved to the music forum...I'll check


EDIT: Well, I don't see it, but there could have been an accident...I'm sorry, I don't have any information about this...There must be a reasonable explanation though.

[Despare]

Maybe it was moved to the music forum...I'll check

I didn't see it there...


That would be MAJOR bullshit. You can delete posts if you're a mod who thinks nobody can argue, (which is also bullshit, free speech be damned let's delete all the arguments!) but to delete somebody's whole fucking tourney?



I'd rather have all the spam (I know you're all trying mods but it seems impossible to get rid of it all) than over moderation like this. Don't give me some "they're trying their best" speech either, I understood that with the piracy thing but this time it's just abuse of power. Or maybe the thread's still there and I'm jumping to a conclusion.

[hammerfan]

The Tournament of Bands thread has mysteriously vanished. Care to explain why?


The last thing I read on there was YOU telling the mods to feel free to delete the thread. That could be why it disappeared.

[bloodrayne]

I'd rather have all the spam (I know you're all trying mods but it seems impossible to get rid of it all) than over moderation like this. Don't give me some "they're trying their best" speech either, I understood that with the piracy thing but this time it's just abuse of power. Or maybe the thread's still there and I'm jumping to a conclusion.

It truly could have been a mistake...It takes a while to get used to these tools...AMK made mistakes the ENTIRE time she was a mod...tried to take out posts and deleted whole threads, MULTIPLE times...That's where our original picture thread went...It was a HUGE thread.

I don't know what happened, but please give them the benefit of the doubt and allow them to explain.

[bloodrayne]

The last thing I read on there was YOU telling the mods to feel free to delete the thread. That could be why it disappeared.

Ah...A clue...Thanks, Margie love :)

[hammerfan]

Ah...A clue...Thanks, Margie love :)


No problem :D

[VampiricClown]

I don't know what happened, but please give them the benefit of the doubt and allow them to explain.

Yes, could be a mistake. But it's getting to where we all feel as if any argument or thread with a semi-questionable subject, could get it erased or someone banned. It would possibly be tolerable and easier forgiven, if it weren't so often and nonsensical as of late. I mean seriously, how many of these "Where did it go?" threads have there been in this past week?

That's my two cents. Now, back to work on my site and organizing.

[ferretchucker]

Hmmm. I'm not sure about this. Could be that they listened to Posher, or that they're testing out their new found power. Or a mistake. I don't know.

Maybe if the Mod who did it just says why. As Cheebs said in Bwind's thread, it's a lack of communication that causes problems.

[The_Return]

Posh...we've had our differences in the past, but I really thought you were beyond this kind of thing these days.

Like HF said: you ASKED the mods to delete the thread. Now you start a thread, calling them out because it actually got deleted?

Wow.

[Dante'sInferno]

Well, he said he would continue to do it, just to spite Zero. They probably didn't know if he was playing around or not.

[missmacabre]

Not to mention a well known dislike for a few of our mods...

[Zero]

it just seems like a lot of this sort of thing lately. . . maybe it is just . . . i don't know

[Posher778]

Posh...we've had our differences in the past, but I really thought you were beyond this kind of thing these days.

Like HF said: you ASKED the mods to delete the thread. Now you start a thread, calling them out because it actually got deleted?

Wow.

Don't judge me. I said I would continue it just a few posts after. I may not be 100% innocent here but even I would have had the common knowledge to ASK the person if they were serious or not.


@MM. Thanks...

[missmacabre]

Don't judge me. I said I would continue it just a few posts after. I may not be 100% innocent here but even I would have had the common knowledge to ASK the person if they were serious or not.


@MM. Thanks...

Welcome baby.

Anyway, yes there is an issue. Shit has happened so let's not point fingers. Whoever deleted things etc etc whatever happened, knows they were wrong, it's been pointed out and will most likely not happen again.

[missmacabre]

All those opposed to posher continuing his tourney?

[neverending]

I wasn't the one who deleted it- but I was told it was deleted because Posh asked for it to be deleted.

[Despare]

It truly could have been a mistake...It takes a while to get used to these tools...AMK made mistakes the ENTIRE time she was a mod...tried to take out posts and deleted whole threads, MULTIPLE times...That's where our original picture thread went...It was a HUGE thread.

I don't know what happened, but please give them the benefit of the doubt and allow them to explain.

I've been a mod on forums before, you don't fuck with something unless you know what it does. There was no need to move it out of general or change it at all so a mistake would have only happened if the mod was screwing with something they shouldn't have. I don't dislike ANY of the mods and I think you know that. :)

[Posher778]

I wasn't the one who deleted it- but I was told it was deleted because Posh asked for it to be deleted.

And shortly after changed his mind.

Impulse>Zealous.

[alkytrio666]

"Shoot me."

*bang*

"Nevermind, I want to live."

[ferretchucker]

I don't think this one can really be blamed on the mods. Just a misunderstanding.

[Posher778]

"Shoot me."

*bang*

"Nevermind, I want to live."

This..... This is why I love you.

[alkytrio666]

This..... This is why I love you.
:)

I was hoping you wouldn't take it to heart.
Anyway, I for one enjoy(ed) the band tournament and hope it can continue.

[Angra]

who is moderating this place - miss manners???


The chinese goverment.

[Posher778]

So why is Ferret still alive?

[Angra]

Coz he's a pleaser. ;)

[GorePhobia]

That just sounds so dirty.

[stubbornforgey]

hahahahahaha..
this is funny.
I mean ..how many of us have thrown a tantrum and demanded something be done by the mods.?
And seriously ..how many mods truly acted upon it.?

none..zilch..

because they knew that once again, one of the members is shitty and will be all better tomorrow, so just ignore the request.


:p

Em wondering if this is the reason why so many members are disappearing from the forum.
I came in the other night n there were only 3 online.
Maybe it was just my time zone thingy. 'shrug'

[neverending]

And this is becoming a very typical response- blame the mods if they do nothing AND blame them if they do something.

[newb]

And this is becoming a very typical response- blame the mods if they do nothing AND blame them if they do something.

http://www.lechatnoirboutique.com/prodimages/Coffee%20Mug%20-%20Far%20Side%20Damned%20if%20You%20Do%20Dont.jpg

[stubbornforgey]

And this is becoming a very typical response- blame the mods if they do nothing AND blame them if they do something.

no offense intended but its only the mods that do have the powers to chop and change things around.

[Posher778]

And this is becoming a very typical response- blame the mods if they do nothing AND blame them if they do something.

Just the pompous mods.

[neverending]

Y'know what? Don't ever PM me asking for advice again.

[Posher778]

Y'know what? Don't ever PM me asking for advice again.

What if it pertains to the well being of this forum?

[bwind22]

*tiptoes back out of thread.*

[ferretchucker]

Ah, there's something heartwarming about coming over to a thread and seeing people talking about you being murdered by the Chinese.

But, I will echo Miss Macabre's sentiments in that this whole thing has been blown out of proportion.

[Despare]

And this is becoming a very typical response- blame the mods if they do nothing AND blame them if they do something.

Like I said, over moderation would be a problem if it happened and in this case I don't think it happened at all. Oh, and NE, I think you knew how mods were treated before accepting the position didn't you?

[Zero]

what's so funny bout peace love & understanding

[Elvis_Christ]

Christ this place is fucked sometimes.

[monalisa]

Oh God, do I dare even say this. Yes, I guess I will since I started typing.

In my opinion, the mods here do a pretty good job, but they do play favorites and they do get power hungry sometimes. I very often walk on eggshells when posting, or refraining from posting, here because I worry that if I say the wrong thing to the wrong person, I will once again get threatened with being banned. I appreciate that at least they have shown me the courtesy of warning me instead of just banning me, but I don't think my behaviour has ever even warranted a warning. Other people seem to be able to say and do whatever they want, and it's acceptable or funny. Which is fine with me, I love that, I just wish I was shown THAT courtesy and be able to do the same thing. Again, just my opinion, and my experience. No I'm not whining, it's just a sore spot with me, and with good reason.

[Despare]

Christ this place is fucked sometimes.

Just like any place inhabited by people brother...

[Bub the Zombie]

Just like any place inhabited by people brother...

I wonder if there are actually any people here, except a select few.

[Angra]

I wonder if there are actually any people here, except a select few.


Who are you? Are you me?

[monalisa]

Who are you? Are you me?

... on second thought, never mind, I'll just keep quiet. (I hate those fucking eggshells.)

[Angra]

... on second thought, never mind, I'll just keep quiet. (I hate those fucking eggshells.)


You can whisper it to my ear, you naughty minx. ;) :D

[Phalanx]

Stop fighting, or I'll ban everyone, ok.

[Angra]

Stop fighting, or I'll ban everyone, ok.

Giving you the power to ban would be the end of HDC as we know it.

No offence, Stalin.

;)

[Phalanx]

Giving you the power to ban would be the end of HDC as we know it.

No offence, Stalin.

Nope......
You banned a foreskin!

[Despare]

I wonder if there are actually any people here, except a select few.

Deep...

Maybe HDC only has four people, all whom have many accounts and each of them love to argue with not only the other three but also their alter-egos.

[urgeok2]

i'm amazed that folks can find things to be upset about - even when there's nothing going on.

[newb]

i'm amazed that folks can find things to be upset about - even when there's nothing going on.

damn younguns.....they haven't learned to mellow yet.




they will

[urgeok2]

here's how i look at this place ....


the same way i look at my laptop at work.

anything i put on the laptop can go any second. it isnt my property - i didnt pay for it. if i leave - it stays in the company. anything i put on it that i value - i damn well better have copies of it elsewhere because it's the right of this company to take it from me ..


frankly i couldnt give a shit about anything i post. i couldt care less if a mod deleted it just because they didnt like it.


if any of it was that profound then i'd be copying it to a text file and getting it published.


so far - Pr3ssur3 is the only person who's ever been on this forum who has actually written at THAT level and even he didnt care ...


nothing to lose sleep over as far as i'm concerned.


and if you are losing sleep over this ... here ... got something for you :


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/DaveJustin/Reality-Check-Ahead.jpg

[The Flayed One]

I should lock this thread. That'll learn 'em!
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/51208265/Steel_Garden_Leaf_Rake.jpg

[urgeok2]

I should lock this thread. That'll learn 'em!

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-17988307.jpg?size=572&uid=%7B52E61759-3D2D-4584-9B2A-30053BF0997C%7D


just delete it :D

[newb]

I don't know.....some of Marley's poems have been inspiring.:D

whatever happened to Pr3ssur3 ....you still keep in touch?

[Posher778]

More importantly, I now have moderator privileges, since Rayne is in the hospital. Thanks guys.

[newb]

More importantly, I now have moderator privileges, since Rayne is in the hospital. Thanks guys.

nothing serious I hope?

[Posher778]

nothing serious I hope?

Just Syphilis. Go Dustin!

[urgeok2]

I don't know.....some of Marley's poems have been inspiring.:D

whatever happened to Pr3ssur3 ....you still keep in touch?

havent heard from him in ages ... every now and then (once a year maybe) i'll get something out of the blue.




guy is a frigging genius .... he got a kick out of conflict on the forum as much as anyone - he just had a much more clever way of going about it :)

[Posher778]

Just Syphilis. Go Dustin!

By the way..... This was a joke, in case someone like newb actually almost believed me.

[Despare]

here's how i look at this place ....


the same way i look at my laptop at work.

anything i put on the laptop can go any second. it isnt my property - i didnt pay for it. if i leave - it stays in the company. anything i put on it that i value - i damn well better have copies of it elsewhere because it's the right of this company to take it from me ..


frankly i couldnt give a shit about anything i post. i couldt care less if a mod deleted it just because they didnt like it.


if any of it was that profound then i'd be copying it to a text file and getting it published.


so far - Pr3ssur3 is the only person who's ever been on this forum who has actually written at THAT level and even he didnt care ...

Authority should always be questioned, even when they're doing a "good job". I wouldn't lose sleep over something of mine being deleted as most of the stuff I post here is trivial BS anyway. That said, I would still ask why it was deleted, even if I didn't expect an answer.

This is forum owned by one person, that person can do whatever he/she feels and those appointed to a position of power by said entity are granted similar privileges. Just remember that there isn't a good IP banning system and no matter how many people you piss off, you can always come back and continue to annoy people.

[urgeok2]

i've made a lifetime habit of questioning authority - when i think its abused.
and when it's over something important.

for me - this just isnt the place ... i think it runs pretty hands free anyway.

i guess (and no one likes to hear it) i just dont care enough about an internet forum to the point where ....where authority is even an issue - i dont see it.

authority is my boss, upper management, our CEO, my wife...
in school it was my teachers --or any kid big enough to hurt me.


i dont get the concept of authority here .... mods are just folks people trusted to see that a few rules that are already in place are followed. for the most part its just deleting spam.

if someone 'oversteps their bounds' here - i really dont care.

it doesnt touch my health, my wallet, or anything in my reality for that matter.


its not like i even care if i get banned - obviously :)

i just conduct myself in a manner where it wouldnt happen .. but if it did ...

meh...


i'm not saying others are like that or should be .. it's just where i'm personally coming from ...

[ferretchucker]

here's how i look at this place ....


the same way i look at my laptop at work.

anything i put on the laptop can go any second. it isnt my property - i didnt pay for it. if i leave - it stays in the company. anything i put on it that i value - i damn well better have copies of it elsewhere because it's the right of this company to take it from me ..


frankly i couldnt give a shit about anything i post. i couldt care less if a mod deleted it just because they didnt like it.


if any of it was that profound then i'd be copying it to a text file and getting it published.


so far - Pr3ssur3 is the only person who's ever been on this forum who has actually written at THAT level and even he didnt care ...


nothing to lose sleep over as far as i'm concerned.


and if you are losing sleep over this ... here ... got something for you :




I understand how you can look at it this way, but I couldn't ever see the forum that way myself.


This place doesn't dominate my life, I don't constantly think about it, but just because something isn't got published doesn't mean it didn't have value. Whether it's a pretty deep conversation or a post you may have put a lot of time into, i.e - something in the Battle Royale, or HDC Idol, if someone came along and just said to themselves "This is pointless" and deleted it forever, it gets on my nerves.

So what if you don't make money over it, putting any time into anything shows you care enough about it for one reason or another to spend a part of the small amount of time on this world to doing it.

[Paul the Monk]

I know this may not be my place to say anything, being a relatively new noobie, but here goes nothing......

I have been reading this thread and the 'Talk to the Moderation' thread for some time now, and I believe that what was done was the right thing to do. Now before somebody jumps my ass for saying this, let me elaborate a bit. The said 'deleted' thread did advertise a site indulging in piracy, streaming or downloading. I have been in other forums where such threads disappear as soon as they are made, without even an ounce of explanation offered. Of course, members cry foul and make a lot of hue and cry about freedom of speech and whatnots, but deep in their hearts they know exactly what they had posted and why it was deleted. The mods here are polite enough to come forward and explain their reasons at least, whereas in other forums they don't even bother - any sort of question results in a further warning. I would say the mods here are pretty straightforward, no-nonsense, down-to-earth people who are doing their best to keep this place hassle-free. As a member it is easy to log in, post a few here and there and log off back to normal lives or other forums whatever, but for a mod it is not an easy walk in the park once they have logged into a forum they are in-charge of. Not to mention all of them must have their own busy lives from which they are investing time and money to keep a watch over this place, bound by a sense of duty and loyalty. As a member in this forum, I empathise with all of them. The fact that the owner is never around to run this place smoothly, as I have read in several older threads, makes their presence in the forum all the more valuable.

My two cents for all it's worth............

[newb]

I know this may not be my place to say anything, being a relatively new noobie, but here goes nothing......

I have been reading this thread and the 'Talk to the Moderation' thread for some time now, and I believe that what was done was the right thing to do. Now before somebody jumps my ass for saying this, let me elaborate a bit. The said 'deleted' thread did advertise a site indulging in piracy, streaming or downloading. I have been in other forums where such threads disappear as soon as they are made, without even an ounce of explanation offered. Of course, members cry foul and make a lot of hue and cry about freedom of speech and whatnots, but deep in their hearts they know exactly what they had posted and why it was deleted. The mods here are polite enough to come forward and explain their reasons at least, whereas in other forums they don't even bother - any sort of question results in a further warning. I would say the mods here are pretty straightforward, no-nonsense, down-to-earth people who are doing their best to keep this place hassle-free. As a member it is easy to log in, post a few here and there and log off back to normal lives or other forums whatever, but for a mod it is not an easy walk in the park once they have logged into a forum they are in-charge of. Not to mention all of them must have their own busy lives from which they are investing time and money to keep a watch over this place, bound by a sense of duty and loyalty. As a member in this forum, I empathise with all of them. The fact that the owner is never around to run this place smoothly, as I have read in several older threads, makes their presence in the forum all the more valuable.

My two cents for all it's worth............

For a Monk,you talk a lot



I kid...I kid.

and I also agree with you 100%

[newb]

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p255/ferretchucker/Tokensig-1.jpg

for the record....you are not the only "Brit" here.

[ferretchucker]

Oh, I know, I know. But, it seemed like an okay slogan. It did say Britkid but when I redid the font I forgot to add that. 1 sec.

[zwoti]

I know this may not be my place to say anything, being a relatively new noobie, but here goes nothing......

I have been reading this thread and the 'Talk to the Moderation' thread for some time now, and I believe that what was done was the right thing to do. Now before somebody jumps my ass for saying this, let me elaborate a bit. The said 'deleted' thread did advertise a site indulging in piracy, streaming or downloading. I have been in other forums where such threads disappear as soon as they are made, without even an ounce of explanation offered. Of course, members cry foul and make a lot of hue and cry about freedom of speech and whatnots, but deep in their hearts they know exactly what they had posted and why it was deleted. The mods here are polite enough to come forward and explain their reasons at least, whereas in other forums they don't even bother - any sort of question results in a further warning. I would say the mods here are pretty straightforward, no-nonsense, down-to-earth people who are doing their best to keep this place hassle-free. As a member it is easy to log in, post a few here and there and log off back to normal lives or other forums whatever, but for a mod it is not an easy walk in the park once they have logged into a forum they are in-charge of. Not to mention all of them must have their own busy lives from which they are investing time and money to keep a watch over this place, bound by a sense of duty and loyalty. As a member in this forum, I empathise with all of them. The fact that the owner is never around to run this place smoothly, as I have read in several older threads, makes their presence in the forum all the more valuable.

My two cents for all it's worth............

have some more

http://www.guitar.com/uploaded/profile_images/forum_2f455681_two_cents_small.jpg

[Despare]

have some more

http://www.guitar.com/uploaded/profile_images/forum_2f455681_two_cents_small.jpg

What a waste of HDC tax money... fuckin' mods. ;)

[Angra]

What a waste of HDC tax money... fuckin' mods. ;)

Zwoti is Paul the Monk. He's just giving the money to himself. :rolleyes: