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Sick_As_Fuck

10-08-2003, 06:27 PM

I was wondering everyone's feelings on these new intelligent horror films. Movies such as "Mothman Prophecies", "The Ring", and "FearDotCom". Although they're not too scary, they're still considered part of the horror genre. The difference is they replace the senseless killing and gore with mystery and hard-to-solve scenarios. And I guess this is how the new Texas Chainsaw movie will be as well, so I've heard. Anyways, I was just wondering everyone's opinions on these types.

scare_queen

10-08-2003, 09:02 PM

M.P.... was an "eh" kinda movie it was good... better than alot but not one of the best.
I loved the ring. It scared the SHIT out of me... I wouldn't go near a TV for a week lol (but that was after I went and saw it 3 more times :p )
Fear.com I left within 20 mins of it starting. I almost puked, not because of the 'gore' but because of the camera motions.... it was the blair witch project all over again.

Killer Clown#1

10-09-2003, 03:11 AM

Idenity was pretty inteligent and if it was'int then it would have not been any good because I like movies that make you think.

Tony

10-09-2003, 04:09 AM

I'm ok with them as long as they are horror flicks. Personally I'm a big slasher fan but whatever comes out way we gotta take it or leave it. Being a horror fan since 4 I'll take what comes.

scare_queen

10-09-2003, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Killer Clown#1
Idenity was pretty inteligent and if it was'int then it would have not been any good because I like movies that make you think.
I LOVED identity! That was a good movie. I love movies with twists at the end like that.

Krzychu

10-09-2003, 01:23 PM

Films were selected by Sick_As_Fuck are very intersting. In my opinion that movies are not horror. Maybe a horror-director near future take adventage of that films? Peraphs, modern horrors scene will get good and terrible as fuck film??
I think horror movies need something new. Otherwise this genre, sooner or late, will die.

nightbreed

10-09-2003, 02:16 PM

soo at what point of the original texas chainsaw massacre was there a whole lot of gore? Maybe i missed somthing but in the version I own most of the gore is implied and not shown...

Sick_As_Fuck

10-09-2003, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by nightbreed
soo at what point of the original texas chainsaw massacre was there a whole lot of gore? Maybe i missed somthing but in the version I own most of the gore is implied and not shown...

It wasn't intelligently done though. I've heard that the new one will have a more dark, intelligent, mysterious plot to it. Not just the teens enter the house, Leatherface and friends kill them, the end. We'll see in 8 more days though. I for one can't wait.

Tony

10-09-2003, 05:48 PM

Personally I would rather see the kids in the new TCM walk their ignorant asses into that house. Get the shit killed right out of them...all of them. Not one survivor. No other plot than that. That would be the most intelligent way to do it in my opinion. I don't think I'll get that but I hope it's a good movie either way.

avenger00soul

10-11-2003, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
I was wondering everyone's feelings on these new intelligent horror films. Movies such as "Mothman Prophecies", "The Ring", and "FearDotCom". Although they're not too scary, they're still considered part of the horror genre. The difference is they replace the senseless killing and gore with mystery and hard-to-solve scenarios. And I guess this is how the new Texas Chainsaw movie will be as well, so I've heard. Anyways, I was just wondering everyone's opinions on these types.

Feardotcom was not an intelligent horror movie. So The Ring wasn't scary huh? Could have fooled me.

SCREAMERatorX

10-12-2003, 10:54 AM

i must have been fooled with that one 2... The Ring is a modern horror classic. would have 2 be in my HorrorTop10 (which includes 'intelligent' and 'uninteligent')

What do every1 think of horror movies with Artificial Intelligence??

Ritualistic

10-12-2003, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by SCREAMERatorX
i must have been fooled with that one 2... The Ring is a modern horror classic. would have 2 be in my HorrorTop10 (which includes 'intelligent' and 'uninteligent')

What do every1 think of horror movies with Artificial Intelligence??

They`re okay... most dont have anything to do with horror.. so this would just be another type of movie I like.. sci-fi/action/adventure etc...

roguesblight

10-13-2003, 12:10 AM

MY daughter and I LOVE the Ring. We love it so much that we are wanting to see the Japanese original Ringu, because we heard it was way scarier. I personally can't wait for Ring 2 which won't be based on Ringu 2, because it goes more scientific. Ring 2 is suppose to go more into the supernatural direction. That would make it even better. Identity was more drama/thriller than anything, but still an excellent movie. Feardot.com was a combo of cop/horror because it did have a supernatural theme. Mothman Prophecies on the otherhand, wasn't it based on a true story? That was sort of alright, I liked it, but it left me wanting to know more. TCM was also based on actual events, but that just plain falls in the slasher area of horror. No matter how much intellect they add to the remake it would still fall in the slasher area which would make Tony happy. Huh!?!

Sick_As_Fuck

10-16-2003, 02:11 PM

Actually, IMO, The Ring wasn't very scary at all. I thought that Identity was much scarier. And FearDotCom has to be considered "intelligent", because the basic plot is cops trying to figure out what the website's all about. How is that not intelligent?

avenger00soul

10-16-2003, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
FearDotCom has to be considered "intelligent", because the basic plot is cops trying to figure out what the website's all about. How is that not intelligent?

Are you being sarcastic?

lilangel_66071

10-16-2003, 02:22 PM

i hated fear.com it sucked ass ha, I loved identity it was awsome. I also loved the ring it wasnt like slasher type scary more of and Creepy scary gave me chills. Almost like what the hell just happened ha. Just couldnt get into fear . com. I think alot of horror is going to that type of movie less gore. I LIKE GORE MYSELF ha. I'm looking forward to tcm too.

Sick_As_Fuck

10-16-2003, 02:38 PM

My bad. I'm not making myself clear. I didn't mean "intelligent" per se, but I mean it's more of a mystery/suspense/thriller then horror movie.

roguesblight

10-16-2003, 08:15 PM

And FearDotCom has to be considered "intelligent", because the basic plot is cops trying to figure out what the website's all about.

I agree with that, but then that would make "The Ring" an intelligent flik also, cause they are also trying to figure out what's going on. I enjoyed both movies, but my daughter "Samara" and I both liked "the Ring" more because it was scarier than "Feardotcom", not saying that either was real scary, cause I've already said in other postings that no movie has scared us in quite a while.

Sick_As_Fuck

10-16-2003, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by roguesblight
I agree with that, but then that would make "The Ring" an intelligent flik also, cause they are also trying to figure out what's going on. I enjoyed both movies, but my daughter "Samara" and I both liked "the Ring" more because it was scarier than "Feardotcom", not saying that either was real scary, cause I've already said in other postings that no movie has scared us in quite a while.

I agree with you 100%. I indeed stated that I thought The Ring was more of a mystery, because IMO it wasn't really scary at all besides the first 10 minutes of it. I still thought it was a good movie though.

roguesblight

10-17-2003, 12:45 AM

OKAY! Totally off the subject here....what is IMO? I've never posted or used message boards before I came to this site, and I have been bypassing that everytime I read a post that has it, but now I just have to know! :confused: Curiosity finally got the best of me! haha! Somebody please fill me in! :( :D

Deadbodyman

10-17-2003, 01:04 AM

I HATED fear dot com, it was so stupid, But i do think that they are leaning toward movies more in the lines of mystery and suspense, and turning away from Slashers, and gore filled movie. I myself am a fan of both. I like movies that make you think and blow your mind, but i like to see tons of blood and guts too!! I think as long as there are fans of both there will be movie with both!

roguesblight

10-17-2003, 01:12 AM

I liked feardotcom, but I liked it because it was different. But I even like off-beat poorly filmed blood & guts movies like dead alive also! It just depends on my mood, and if I have enough money to rent both kinds. If I don't then I usually rent the mainstream movies.

roguesblight

10-17-2003, 01:15 AM

Here's a thought! They need a channel that plays horror, all horror all the time! From off-beat blood & guts to mainstream hits! That would be cool! I'd find a way to get cable or satellite then!!:D

avenger00soul

10-17-2003, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by roguesblight
Here's a thought! They need a channel that plays horror, all horror all the time! From off-beat blood & guts to mainstream hits! That would be cool! I'd find a way to get cable or satellite then!!:D

That may be happening. As far as IMO: in my opinion.

roguesblight

10-17-2003, 10:25 PM

That would be great! It could be a pay channel like HBO. That way there wouldn't be any commercials! I hate those pesty things for the most part!

ChaoticMinister

10-18-2003, 05:06 AM

I thought "feardotcom" had such an incredibly elongated and silly premise that I couldn't really get everything that was intended for it out fo it. A ghost on the internet that kills you ooOOOoooOooooOoooOooOOoOoOoooooo... she looks like she's from a porn site more than a "fear" site. I also think that the female main character (who starred in "Ronin," and was quite good in it, I think) wasn't right for the role.
Identity had a great plot but was easily predictable... and that whole sequence where he starts "counting down" going "tick-tock-tick-tock" made me feel embarrassed to be watching it (anyone ever get that feeling with a movie... it starts getting so cheesy and slightly painful to watch that you start groaning and either stop the tape or change the channel?).
The Ring was creepy at best... never scary... maybe it's because I watched it alone at ten in the morning... the only really creepy part wasn't even in the movie: I was in the living room and light was coming through the big window, bouncing off an overturned DVD-ROM on my PS2 and reflecting on the opposite wall...the image? A wobbley, scratchy, oval-like, white (purple) ring...
A film that I felt hasn't gotten enough recognition on these boards is Se7en... perhaps it's more of a "Thriller," I dunno... but I found it to be a most delightful film... one of my top ten favorites in any category of all time... I just wish they'd show the head on tv more often... they won't even do it on the movie channels... bastards...

Oh and the movie "A.I." scared the shit out of me... (I know it wasn't directly mentioned...) :-P

*FADE OUT*

Ritualistic

10-18-2003, 09:20 AM

"The Others" to me is a great suspenseful/mystery horror flick.. I wouldnt call it intelligent, but more of mystery. I get in my moods when I just want to set down and watch a movie like this..

roguesblight

10-18-2003, 08:42 PM

Who is in Se7en? I heard a lot about it but haven't seen it yet. Is it a mainstream movie? And is it at the movies or on video?

Sick_As_Fuck

10-18-2003, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by roguesblight
Who is in Se7en? I heard a lot about it but haven't seen it yet. Is it a mainstream movie? And is it at the movies or on video?

I've never seen it, but I believe Brad Pitt is in it. I also heard that it's crazy as fuck and will mess you up for awhile. I definitely wanna check it out.

roguesblight

10-18-2003, 09:35 PM

OH! I know what movie that is now that ya told me Brad Pitt was in it. And yes it was cool! But I just didn't associate that with horror! But it was a F*cked up storyline. The killer was sick. Kevin Spacey at his best! Definately an intelligent flick!

Ritualistic

10-19-2003, 07:01 AM

yeah se7en was a cool movie. I put it in the catagory with Fallen, Identity, The Ring, The others, The Sixth Sense, et cetera...

Sick_As_Fuck

10-19-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by Ritualistic
yeah se7en was a cool movie. I put it in the catagory with Fallen, Identity, The Ring, The others, The Sixth Sense, et cetera...

What's "Fallen" ?

avenger00soul

10-19-2003, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
What's "Fallen" ?

Denzel Washington movie where the killer jumps from body to body in "Shocker" fashion.

Ritualistic

10-19-2003, 02:56 PM

very cool movie.. I recommend it to fans of se7en... Denzel washington is good in this movie... Training day sucked compared to this movie... Although that movie is non horror but his acting is better in Fallen... :)

Sick_As_Fuck

10-19-2003, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by avenger00soul
Denzel Washington movie where the killer jumps from body to body in "Shocker" fashion.

Ohhhhh yeahhhh. I liked that movie. Thanks for refreshing my memory.

roguesblight

10-19-2003, 06:41 PM

Oh hell yeah, Shocker. love that movie, and fallen was good also!Shocker was a great start to Mitch Pileggi's career. I loved him as a psycho and I loved him as A.D. Skinner in the X-Files!

slasher

10-20-2003, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by avenger00soul
Feardotcom was not an intelligent horror movie. So The Ring wasn't scary huh? Could have fooled me.

:o :o :o The ring was alright in an eery sort of way but it was not scary!!!

avenger00soul

10-20-2003, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by slasher
:o :o :o The ring was alright in an eery sort of way but it was not scary!!!

The first few minutes of The Ring raised the hair on my arms. That closet shot was freaky as hell. If the Ring wasn't scary, pray tell, what movie is?

slasher

10-20-2003, 01:18 PM

avenger00soul

10-20-2003, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by slasher
Night of the Living Dead (Original version

I don't find that film "scary." It's a great horror film that offers some serious social commentary, but nothing in it actually frightens me. What in that movie "scares" you?

Sick_As_Fuck

10-20-2003, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by avenger00soul
The first few minutes of The Ring raised the hair on my arms. That closet shot was freaky as hell. If the Ring wasn't scary, pray tell, what movie is?

IMO "scary" is something that either makes you jump, squirm, lose your stomach, fucks up your mind, or of course you would never want it to happen in real life. Like I said earlier, only the first scene of The Ring, as well as the end when we learn the girl actually comes out of the TV to kill her victims are scary IMO. The rest wasn't scary at all. Pretty boring actually.

slasher

10-21-2003, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by avenger00soul
I don't find that film "scary." It's a great horror film that offers some serious social commentary, but nothing in it actually frightens me. What in that movie "scares" you?

I found it to be real scary when I watched it at the age of 10. But to this day the part that still gives me chills is the beginning when the guy is trying to scare his sister in the cemetary and the real scary part has not even started yet. the main reason that movie scares me is because I have a fear of reanimated corpses, especially from this movie because it freaked me out so much when I was young. Since this is really a childhood scare I will give you a different one then that really got to me as an adult. I sit here trying to think of one and I cannot. i have watched movies that have caught me off guard and made me jump at isolated parts of the movie but nothing that had me scared out of mind. One movie I liked was Ghost Ship. I realize that some of you may not like it but I thought it was well done and had a good plot. I also liked Thirteen Ghosts which was made by almost all the same people.

roguesblight

10-21-2003, 04:43 PM

oooh do we looove 13 ghosts. "samara" and I have watched this tape so many times I think it's wearing the tape out. Great effects, and the ghosts are pretty scary. I am still trying to find a good clear picture of "the charles manson of ghosts....The Jackyl" I want that as my avatar.

Killer Clown#1

10-21-2003, 05:07 PM

This is the best I could find for ya(resized it would be to small I know) but I will keep lookin. I don't know how to rezize them but ask anybody ealse on the board they might know.http://outnow.ch/movies/2001/13Ghosts/?i=movie%2E1%2F01%2Ejpg&w=700&h=468

Killer Clown#1

10-21-2003, 05:21 PM

The Jackal (http://movies.monstrous.com/13_ghosts_3.htm)
Ok Found a good one this time but you might want to e-mail it to somone so you can get it resized if you don't know how to.

roguesblight

10-21-2003, 05:47 PM

oh yeah! the second was was fabulous! thanks killer clown #1! Just a bit of resizing and a bit of lightening and it will be perfect!

Colm O' Toole

10-22-2003, 02:03 AM

I think that the recent surge in Intelligant Horror Movies is a desperate attempt by the industry to legitimise the horror genre. I hope that the new Texas Chainsaw doesnt try to be intelligant and mysterious it is the mother of all slasher movies not a sophisticated intelligant movie.

Killer Clown#1

10-22-2003, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by Colm O' Toole
I think that the recent surge in Intelligant Horror Movies is a desperate attempt by the industry to legitimise the horror genre. I hope that the new Texas Chainsaw doesnt try to be intelligant and mysterious it is the mother of all slasher movies not a sophisticated intelligant movie.
Trust me it's not intelligant :)