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ChronoGrl
12-27-2008, 07:07 AM
Hey Guys,

I've been playing Fallout 3 pretty much non-stop lately and it's frozen twice on me over the past couple of days. I'll be playing and then suddenly the game, screen, et al will just freeze. Even if I eject the disc, the screen is still frozen on the TV. I have to physically get up and restart the XBOX. Actually happened today today during the Final Fight. :(

Has anyone experienced similar problems? I'm going to do some Google-researching, but I wanted to know if any of you were having similar issues and if there's something I can/should do to fix it. I hope that this isn't a sign of something much, much worse. :(

Freak
12-27-2008, 07:59 AM
There could be a bunch of reasons.Could be the disc or just a random thing.I've had it happen to me a few times on that game as well.I doubt it's your xbox since you haven't had it that long.Just make sure you keep dust away from it and it a well ventilated place.

_____V_____
12-27-2008, 08:18 AM
Sounds like a problem of heating up.

Keep the console on a place where it is free on all sides, even below. Do not place it on a cloth or support of any kind, which might muffle the base. It works best when its kept on top of a glass-top or a table, with some gap between it and the surface.

The Mothman
12-27-2008, 09:18 AM
My xbox broke twice within the year, if there's one thing ive learned, keep it upright, like a tower. All those vent holes gather dust and screw it up.

ChronoGrl
12-27-2008, 12:00 PM
Thanks, guys.

Yeah, oddly enough, Fallout 3 is the only game that it's locked up on. Then again, that's the only game that I've been playing lately. Freak - Was that the only game that froze up on you?

Funny you say that, Mothman; I actually just turned it horizontal on its side (because I was playing a DVD and it started making a scary RRRRRRRRRRRRR sound - of course, now that I have it horizontal, my game freezes :( ). Do you have a similar issue playing DVDs when you have it vertical?

I agree with you, V too - I think that if I turn it back vertical again, it'll probably be better ventilated.

Freak
12-27-2008, 12:11 PM
Do not put it vertical.I repeat DO NOT PUT IT VERTICAL.It will cause scratches on your discs.That is the biggest mistake a person can make.

I've had mine freeze a few time but mostly on Fallout.

ChronoGrl
12-27-2008, 01:18 PM
Do not put it vertical.I repeat DO NOT PUT IT VERTICAL.It will cause scratches on your discs.That is the biggest mistake a person can make.

I've had mine freeze a few time but mostly on Fallout.

Ahh, see, that was exactly the reason why I put it horizontal in the first place. At least I'm not ENTIRELY crazy for doing that.

VampiricClown
12-27-2008, 01:42 PM
Do not put it vertical.I repeat DO NOT PUT IT VERTICAL.It will cause scratches on your discs.That is the biggest mistake a person can make.

Exactly! I've had to take games back to the store, because they were so scratched, I couldn't play it. They thought I did it, and I had to explain that it wasn't vertical standing.

The Mothman
12-27-2008, 07:10 PM
Thanks, guys.


Funny you say that, Mothman; I actually just turned it horizontal on its side (because I was playing a DVD and it started making a scary RRRRRRRRRRRRR sound - of course, now that I have it horizontal, my game freezes :( ). Do you have a similar issue playing DVDs when you have it vertical?



I dont think Ive ever watched a DVD on my Xbox, and now that you mention that, i dont think i ever will.:)
fallout 3 acts up sometimes with me as well. once it froze, and once all the buttons stopped responding except for the sticks!

The Mothman
12-27-2008, 07:22 PM
Do not put it vertical.I repeat DO NOT PUT IT VERTICAL.It will cause scratches on your discs.That is the biggest mistake a person can make.



ive had mine verticle for quite some time and all my discs are perfect.

_____V_____
12-27-2008, 08:50 PM
The vertical position causing problems is common. Microsoft never addressed that issue and still asked new buyers to keep it vertical. Some of the users dont have a problem with it, but many others get damaged disks.

Its a crappily-finished console.

That being said, it doesnt matter if you keep it horizontal or vertical. The heating up problem stays in the xbox either way. The only way you can prevent that is to let it have enough free space on all sides, and keep it in a well-ventilated room.

If you want to keep it horizontal, you are best advised to get rubber pads for it, to ensure space between the bottom of the console and the surface you have it on - table, glass-top, shelf etc.

Phalanx
12-28-2008, 12:47 AM
s'what you get when you mess with the warriors.

Azazel005
12-28-2008, 04:44 AM
It's almost certianly a heat issue I'd agree there. V's advice was good, keep it will ventilated in particular behind the device. I actually did have some major drive issues with my device originally when under it's warranty period which started out with the device not reading DVD disks.

I have never personally had a problem with fallout, but I have had other locking issues with other games, it happens sometimes it has very little to do with the console.

Still if you try and keep it well ventilated, and give it some rest time after it locks up your in good shape. If it starts not recognising a variety of different disks/types of disks... then it may need repairs... or if the three rings around the on switch all turn red.

Phalanx
12-28-2008, 05:56 AM
Dust free as well as well ventillated, and make sure it's not on or too near any other heat generating electrical devices, vcrs, speakers...etc

ChronoGrl
12-29-2008, 10:06 AM
Its a crappily-finished console.


I'm starting to realize this, which is REALLY disappointing. I'm worried that playing DVDs in it will completely break it, which SUCKS especially since I SHOULD be able to play DVDs in it.

No matter - We'll be buying our new DVD player shortly.

But thanks for the advice - I think having it vertical for the time being keeps it a bit more ventilated. I think that I'll also do a bit more dusting and get one of those air-spray-thingys to get the dust out. I like the idea of getting the rubber nubs to keep it horizontal but off the table top and hopefully better-ventilated.

Despare
12-31-2008, 01:56 PM
Nobody I know has had a problem with the vertical or horizontal positions UNLESS THEY MOVE THE MACHINE WHILE IT IS ON. Seriously, one little jerk and the disc is a coaster (unless you spend a couple bucks to have it resurfaced at a pawn shop or video store). Anyway, the power supply is another thing to consider, it gets VERY hot and should be kept away from the 360.

ferretchucker
12-31-2008, 04:25 PM
I got my Xbox Christmas Day, and was playing GTA IV a few days later. My sister's boyfriend told me it works better vertical and so he turned it. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Take the disk out and there is a huge scratch going all the way round. It didn't work after that. Luckily, when I went to the shop, the clerk was a trainee and so it was pretty easy to get another one.

newb
01-02-2009, 07:19 AM
These really are piece of shit machines. Been through 3 already. Every time I turn it on I just pray I don't see the 3 red lights and I never use it to watch DVDs.

Leprucky Cougar
01-08-2009, 02:55 PM
These really are piece of shit machines. Been through 3 already. Every time I turn it on I just pray I don't see the 3 red lights and I never use it to watch DVDs.


Really? Everybody I talk to loves 360. The only complaints I hear are that XBOX is the game console that overheats the most and fastest. I heard one story of a kid who went to bed and left it plugged in- and the house ended up burning down. But just like laptops I assume they make cooling pads for videogames too...if they don't perhaps they should. What's happened to yours? Or should I say the three of yours?:confused:

missmacabre
01-08-2009, 09:52 PM
Derek and I have had a few freezes but only when playing Fallout 3. It's a pretty hefty game so I can understand it doing that sometimes.

bloody_ribcut
01-09-2009, 06:21 AM
Derek and I have had a few freezes but only when playing Fallout 3. It's a pretty hefty game so I can understand it doing that sometimes.

never happened to my brother while in his gameplay, must vary in systems.

newb
01-09-2009, 08:07 AM
Really? Everybody I talk to loves 360. The only complaints I hear are that XBOX is the game console that overheats the most and fastest. I heard one story of a kid who went to bed and left it plugged in- and the house ended up burning down. But just like laptops I assume they make cooling pads for videogames too...if they don't perhaps they should. What's happened to yours? Or should I say the three of yours?:confused:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/GuyzieMan/RedRingOfDeath.png

Freak
01-13-2009, 01:13 PM
I go to turn on my xbox today but I didn't get the red rings.It won't read any of my games.I called Microsoft today and since my warranty is up they said it would cost me 200 dollars to get it repaired so I said fuck that and go fuck yourself.

I went out and bought the pro system with the 60G hard drive and two free games.I'll seel the 60G since I already have one.And I didn't have to wait 2 months to get it.

Marroe
01-14-2009, 09:22 PM
We got the red ring of death some time in 06, and the next day it was green again. Other than a few odd grindy noises in the weeks following, it's been just fine since then. And it's the ONLY thing we have used for DVD's.

Y'know, now that I'm saying all of this it's going to poop out on me.

Demonique
01-28-2009, 08:51 AM
Xbox 360 - what a pile of junk. I am still pissed about it. I got my Xbox 360 for Christmas 08. I loved it - played nearly everyday, for a whole 7 months. It had started freezing on certain games around four months in. I figured it was just the games. It was vertical - on a top shelf with nothing near it. Then it started to give me some grinding noises and would freeze. Finally as soon as you turned it on I got 3 red lights and the hard disc would start spinning out of control. I did some research to see if it was a quick fix. Here is what I discovered: the Xbox 360 is a poorly made pile of shit. When they built them they used an inferior grade of solder. It apparently weakens through repeated heatings which is why the problem gradually worsens. The solder develops cracks and eventually breaks. The most common place for this to happen is where the cooling fins are attached to the back of the chips. This causes the 3 red lights because the chips can no longer cool and it overheats immediately. I was informed I could take it apart and re-solder the cooling fins (which would negate any warranty) or call Microsoft. We called Microsoft as it was still under warranty. They insisted that we had to send in the power supply first to check that this was not the problem. We had a long debate - in the end my husband decided to go along with this. They were supposed to send another one back so we could check it out - determine that was not the problem and then send the damn box in to be fixed. That was in August. 6 Months later - no word on where this power supply is. The piece of junk is gathering dust on a shelf and I said Fuck it and bought a PS3.

Despare
02-07-2009, 10:06 PM
Xbox 360 - what a pile of junk. I am still pissed about it. I got my Xbox 360 for Christmas 08. I loved it - played nearly everyday, for a whole 7 months. It had started freezing on certain games around four months in. I figured it was just the games. It was vertical - on a top shelf with nothing near it. Then it started to give me some grinding noises and would freeze. Finally as soon as you turned it on I got 3 red lights and the hard disc would start spinning out of control. I did some research to see if it was a quick fix. Here is what I discovered: the Xbox 360 is a poorly made pile of shit. When they built them they used an inferior grade of solder. It apparently weakens through repeated heatings which is why the problem gradually worsens. The solder develops cracks and eventually breaks. The most common place for this to happen is where the cooling fins are attached to the back of the chips. This causes the 3 red lights because the chips can no longer cool and it overheats immediately. I was informed I could take it apart and re-solder the cooling fins (which would negate any warranty) or call Microsoft. We called Microsoft as it was still under warranty. They insisted that we had to send in the power supply first to check that this was not the problem. We had a long debate - in the end my husband decided to go along with this. They were supposed to send another one back so we could check it out - determine that was not the problem and then send the damn box in to be fixed. That was in August. 6 Months later - no word on where this power supply is. The piece of junk is gathering dust on a shelf and I said Fuck it and bought a PS3.

It's a cheap fix if you don't have a return plan... which luckily I do because I just fried another one.

Phalanx
02-07-2009, 10:16 PM
I got my Xbox 360 for Christmas 08. I loved it - played nearly everyday, for a whole 7 months.
But...uh? hmmm

Despare
02-09-2009, 04:32 PM
The only thing that makes me angry is I KNOW that Best Buy now tries the system out until they can get it to red ring (which doesn't matter if they can or not according to the replacement policy) so I flipped on the system the other day and played it for an hour and a half and still no damn red ring. I wish the fucker would just die already...