Michael Vs. Pinhead

[MVP732]

I am making a "fan" script and website of a fight between Michael Myers and Pinhead. If anyone has any interest in either the Hellraiser or Halloween series, give me suggestions and things to include in some of the movie and fight sequences.
Thanks.

[Sam The Egg]

see why I made the OAO Vs. thread?Shit like this.

[Arioch]

i 100% agree sam, actually im a little dissapointed you didnt tell him off:(

[Sam The Egg]

These are a common occurance, I'm saving my telling offs up for someone REALLY stupid.

[Rotting Eye]

Tell everyone off who's stupid.

Actually, my fingers would get tired if I had to do that. WWAAYY too much typing involved.

Although, I'd pay money to see your ultra-telloff in the future. I could use a good laugh.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Arioch
i 100% agree sam, actually im a little dissapointed you didnt tell him off:(


YOU...agree with...SAM???!!!...Now THAT'S scary!!!:D

[moonsorrow]

bah... like iv said before mortals cant take on demi gods...

[bone collector]

Like what you said ill give you some suggestions

Michael should be held at a maximum security prison and he escapes on halloween when he finds out he has a uncle or a relative. The reletive should be stalked and the relative should find the lament configuration and solve it and pinhead kills her and Michael sees it and he and pinhead have a battle.

Ill give you more when i tjink of something

[ShankS]

Pinhead would own, Michael should/would get ripped to shredds.... unless you have a cunning plan for your story.

[MichaelMyers]

Pinhead would have no shot.

[AmarylandPsycho]

turn myers into a cenobite...now that would be one hell of a cenobite you could call him slasher....I like what bone said only the relative should get away then the cenobites chase them down....the relative should have fucked with micheal in the past.....the relative should also be a person of power....not like a senator but a practicer of black magic

[Killer Clown#1]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
see why I made the OAO Vs. thread?Shit like this. I looked for that thread a while ago, but I couldn't find it :(

[bone collector]

i agree with AmarylandPsycho.

That would be cool if Mikey got turned into a cenobite.

[Khafka]

That would be cool if Mikey got turned into a cenobite.


yeah that would be cool..kinda like the cenobite fight
in hellbound

[bone collector]

Mike would get pissed off if he got turned into a cenobite.

[NirvanaNole]

My God, I already realized Sam had no life from his posting "ability" since I read the site long before Sam even attempted to "own" others by posting, much less when I registered, but some of you people are just sad.

Get a freaking life already. :rolleyes:

[NirvanaNole]

Holy shit! Almost 3,500 replies since December and you want to rip on other "losers" that reply to you so you may attempt "own them?" My God, get a fucking life you fucking loser. LMFAO!!!!!!

[freddy69]

i think pinhead would whip michael myers ass

[bone collector]

Michael doesnt compare to Pinhead. Pinhead is unstopable.
He only gets sent back to hell. You cant kill him

[MVP732]

Michael doesnt compare to Pinhead. Pinhead is unstopable.
He's died twice already, in 2 and Bloodline.

[bone collector]

Im talking about unstopable like michael cant kill him and MIchael would have to solve the box, and i dont think he could

[freddy69]

pinhead would kick michael myers ass

[jay o2 waster]

I hope this movie never happens, it would be disgraceful to pin head

[Arioch]

hope this movie never happens, it would be disgraceful to pin head

It would be disgracefull to BOTH franchises and horror as a genre. It would no doubt be a PITIFUL movie, with a VERY weak plot....

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by Arioch
It would be disgracefull to BOTH franchises and horror as a genre. It would no doubt be a PITIFUL movie, with a VERY weak plot....

True, because the movies plot lines are not alike at all

[bone collector]

Why would it be disgraceful. IF it had a good plot, it would probably be a good movie

1. Caption Elliot Spenser could be a part of Michaels family

That would be good

[death_to_all]

I think that Pinhead is very cool and would win against Michael Myers because he has an immortal strength that Michael will never have. I also think that Pinhead is someone that Michael Myers would definitely have nightmares about and should fear him more than anything else in this dismal world. Even in Hell Pinhead is feared and should be because he is sooo cool and shouldn't be put down.
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[Arioch]

True, because the movies plot lines are not alike at all

Exactly.

[death_to_all]

Seeing as one movie is about someone who goes around killing baysitter's and other people on Halloween and is possessed and wants to kill all those of his next of kin, while the other Pinhead rules a realm known only as Hell and is the leader of the Cenobites. Pinhead is completely different from Michael Myers seeing as he has the cube that unlocks a world to pain and pleasure that can only mean death and turmoil.
Pinhead is someone who knows just where to hit a person, mortal when they're down and most vulnerable and that's what's so great about him.
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[massacre man]

so in pinheads world if a woman hits a guy in the face with a brick hell say "oh baby do it again" ?

[death_to_all]

Well no I think that Pinhead would rather do it himself. I think he gets pleasure from other things too and not just pain in the eyes of mortals but evil itself.
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[bone collector]

You have a pretty good point there

Michael wouldnt win win anyway because he would have to solve the box, and i dont think he could

[bone collector]

like death said earlier, pinhead is a imortal force,
Michael is imortal to because of that thorn disease
he is still and always will be 21

[Zugy]

It's a good idea but which theme tune would you use. Use the Halloween one cause it's much better.

You should make Dr Loomis have a son and put him in.

[massacre man]

michael would be able to solve the box he is smart just htorn took his voice away (it does thats why jamie didnt talk in halloween part 5)

[death_to_all]

Yeah well I think that Michael wouldn't be able to solve the cube I think that thorn took away much more than his voice, maybe a bit of his brain as well. Well even if Michael could solve the box he would still lose because Pinhead would take him back to Hell and torture him into infinity.
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[death_to_all]

I also think that the Halloween sound track would be better, scarier even. Well if they make it anything like Freddy Vs Jason then they will probably have a mixture.
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[bone collector]

True

[death_to_all]

Yeah well I think that it would be good if they did make a movie with Michael and PInhead in it. I know that I would be one of the ones that would watch it. Freddy Vs Jason was good so Michael Myers Vs Pinhead might just be as good. If it's made that is.
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[Sistinas]

Last I heard they officially shit-canned Helloween.That Akkad guy knew it would suck shit so he called it off.

[bone collector]

I heard that it is opening in theatres this summer, but i could be wrong

[MVP732]

Read the script I made and it will change most of your arguments.

michaelvspinhead.cjb.net

Oh and the plots in this do connect rather well.

[MVP732]

oh and before u read the script pay a visit to the synopsis. It's pretty "well-worded."

[Sistinas]

Originally posted by bone collector
I heard that it is opening in theatres this summer, but i could be wrong




You are wrong.Its not gunna happen.

[bone collector]

how do u know that. Im gonna laugh my ass off if it comes out and see the look on your face

[bone collector]

good script, but i still like the idea that pinhead is part of michaels family

[bone collector]

You should change the script around, give pinhead better and creepier quotes because you are just copying from the movies.

Make pinhead do cooler stuff to michael ex. at the end it should show michael getting tortured by the hooks and chains, and the hellraiser classic of the head exploding.

USE YOUR IMAGINATION.

[death_to_all]

I think that the collector is right chance it around it would make it seem more realisitic than it already is.
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[death_to_all]

Imagination is only the base of whats real and whats not and thats what really counts in this world. Pinhead would win overall and he needs some new creepy quotes.
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[MVP732]

to tell the truth, when I made this script I had only seen 2 of the Hellraiser movies. Now that I read over it, it makes no sense. My plan: to eventually redue this whole thing, and maybe make their fight take place in a different time... And I'm not talking about another case of Jason X.

[death_to_all]

Well it doesn't really matter that much, there is always a first time to everything. It doesn't matter if a person isn't terrific at something as long as they get the general idea and keep an audience well into it then it will be fine. The main thing a writer of scripts for films or whatever has to pay attention to is the intrigue and interest of the story. What makes it so great? Will the audience stay awake for the whole duration of the film?

Intrigue is something that is of great importance and shouldn't be ignored. To catch the audience's attention you have to try and make the story of the film interesting and most of all intriging so that they won't get bored and enjoy it.

I'm only an amateur writer but I thought that you wouldn't mind some advice seeing as you seem so down on yourself. You can send me the script via e-mail and I can read it and give feedback on it for you. I don't criticise other people's work so don't feel too obliged.
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[death_to_all]

It's [email protected], ok MVP?
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[MVP732]

michaelvspinhead.cjb.net
Just go there. The script link is there.

[bone collector]

I have a little advice for you MVP. Rent all the hellraiser movies before you do anything. have you seen any halloween movies

[death_to_all]

sorry MVP but i have to agree with the collector on this one. it seems that you haven't the slightest idea what Hellraiser and Halloween are about. i advise you to watch the movies and then rewrite the script in a totally different way. it has no real story line, well it does sort of but it doesn't make a lot of sense. well at least you tried thats one thing.
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[bone collector]

Couldnt have said it better myself

[MVP732]

I own all the halloween and hellraiser movies now, and I see that it doesnt make much sense. Right now I am doing the script over. It shall take place in 1978. The only other thing I can say is that is has a lot to do with Hellraiser 3 and Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers.

[MVP732]

I am also using this script to make an actual hour and a half movie with like 20 of my friends. So far I made a couple props including a puzzle box and ball. In this movie all forms of the box will come into play. Any other suggestions or questions please post.

[bone collector]

It shouyld just be pinhead, because he is a pussy if he has the other cenobites fighting to

[death_to_all]

Yeah just put Pinhead in it the other Cenobites aren't as scary and are really annoying.

[massacre man]

no no chatterer is awesome


like have pinhead test michael by sending chatterer to fight him

[death_to_all]

Yeah well I think that the chatterer is cool too but I don't think that Pinhead would call upon him to fight. I think that he would rather torture Michael himself.

[MVP732]

I was thinking of having the Chatterer in it but the costume would be too expensive to buy, so I'll probably just have Pinhead.

[MVP732]

Do you think I should make Michael be sort of a badass and interrupt one of Pinhead's quotes with a knife slash, or just have him stand there.

[death_to_all]

I think that in one scene you should have Pinhead saying one of his famous quotes and then MIchael slashing at him with a knife and then pissing PInhead off so that he has no choice but to get MIchael back.

[massacre man]

Originally posted by death_to_all
Yeah well I think that the chatterer is cool too but I don't think that Pinhead would call upon him to fight. I think that he would rather torture Michael himself.

no like see if he is really worthy of getting the torture

[death_to_all]

Yeah he has to be really worth otherwise it's stupid. I think that Pinhead should remove MIchael's mask.

[bone collector]

I have always wondered whar michaels face looks like, due to all the beatings he has had, getting burned, shot and beaten to death by loomis in part 5 and tommy in part 6. Dont you guys wonder that?

[death_to_all]

Yeah I wonder what he does look like now? IN the first Halloween when Laurie struggles with him towards the end his mask goes up. It's all distorted and his eyes are really dark.

[bone collector]

i bet he looks horrifying, but i think he would have burns, scars, and dents

[death_to_all]

Yeah well it can't not look any different because he has been hurt a lot and won't die. I think that he will be even more ugly than he was in the first Halloween.

[bone collector]

yeah

[AmarylandPsycho]

Heres a thought Jason And Michael are one and the same. Two split personalites conjured up to ease the suffering of a psychotic child locked away down the dank corridors of some pedophiles basement.

[death_to_all]

Yeah that is something, they are very alike Michael and Jason that maybe just maybe they are one and the same. Which was out first Halloween or Friday the 13th one could have been adapted from the other.

[massacre man]

Halloween (1978)
Friday The 13th (1980)

[Father Fitz]

It's a good thing this script isn't being offered for sale...A good script writing program (like "Final Draft") might come in handy to clean this thing up and give it some credibility and usability.
Good luck with it. :)

[MVP732]

im redoing the script using StoryView or something like that.

[Father Fitz]

MVP732...

If you haven't taken the time to compare the likes of "Final Draft" and "Story View", I strongly urge you to do so before you spend your money. Neither of these software programs are cheap but they're also not outrageously expensive, especially if you plan on using either one to churn out more than a couple of scripts.

I don't know how old you are, what level of education you've attained or even how long you've been writing (scripts, et al), but I'd venture to say that (from reading your script) you've got a long way to go before you get good at this thing. That's not to say that you don't have a talent (it's obvious that you do) but rather that there are weaknesses in your script involving presentation (structure), grammar, spelling, plot/premise, and even dialogue. Overall, production value isn't necessarily an issue since you're not selling the script. Fortunately, you've got the balls to display your unfinished work on the web for the whole world to see, and there's not a lot of people reading this (or your script) who can claim the same. Please read on, I'm on your side...

As far as my mentioning "Final Draft", I currently (for a 'ghost story-with-a-devilish-twist' script I'm working on) use the "6.0" version but there is a current "7.0" version available. "Final Draft" is more user-friendly compared to most other scriptwriting software and is widely used in the industry, more so than any other program (which, since I want to eventually make a living with my scriptwriting, is why I decided on this program).

I am not trying to bash you or your script by any means, nor am I intentionally trying to insult your intelligence: I've been writing since the age of 10 (I'm 39) and I readily admit that I'm still learning (though it's been over ten years since I was last published). I'm relatively new to scriptwriting myself (I have 2 under my belt so far), though I wrote my first play (and got it produced at school) when I was in the 6th grade. Regardless, I'm just trying to offer some friendly advice, one writer to another.

Best wishes with your script---I'm looking forward to seeing the end result (your film) if possible. :D

[death_to_all]

Thats's funny. lol. Some people have talent and some don't but I'm not critising anyone.

[Father Fitz]

If the last post is inferring that I'm critisizing this script, then well done: However, not one iota of what I wrote is meant to be cynical or derogatory, by any means. Most [professional] writers I know welcome criticism, and those outside of or not possessing this gift, or those lacking the same talent (for simplicity's sake) haven't the wherewithall to even begin to understand what writing means to one's soul, especially when it comes to expressing yourself and what you see and feel in the world around you. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then don't try to comprehend any of what I just said. You just won't get it.
MVP732 will get along just fine with or without any critique from me.

[MVP732]

MVP732...

If you haven't taken the time to compare the likes of "Final Draft" and "Story View", I strongly urge you to do so before you spend your money. Neither of these software programs are cheap but they're also not outrageously expensive, especially if you plan on using either one to churn out more than a couple of scripts.

I don't know how old you are, what level of education you've attained or even how long you've been writing (scripts, et al), but I'd venture to say that (from reading your script) you've got a long way to go before you get good at this thing. That's not to say that you don't have a talent (it's obvious that you do) but rather that there are weaknesses in your script involving presentation (structure), grammar, spelling, plot/premise, and even dialogue. Overall, production value isn't necessarily an issue since you're not selling the script. Fortunately, you've got the balls to display your unfinished work on the web for the whole world to see, and there's not a lot of people reading this (or your script) who can claim the same. Please read on, I'm on your side...

I downloaded Storyview for free, and my age is 15.

[Father Fitz]

How are you making out with Storyview? I assume you're using the demo version...Is it limited in function?

In case you're interested, I just found these on eBay this morning:

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and much cheaper...

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[death_to_all]

There is something called natural talent. I'm getting published for the first time real soon and I started to write when I was thirteen some have talent while others wish they do. I'm open to plenty of critism that is the only way that a writer can carry on with critism to know just what their audience wants.

[cheebacheeba]

Ok, here's some for you...
Your punctuation and sentence structure could definitely use some improvement.
You also spelt criticism incorrectly.






- B

[death_to_all]

I can spell perfectly, but I was in a massive hurry so that's why I spelt it wrong and there is nothing wrong with my sentence structure then again I'm open to critcism just like everyone else.

[MVP732]

How are you making out with Storyview? I assume you're using the demo version...Is it limited in function?
Yeah i did get the demo version off of download.com and the only thing thats limited to the actual software is that you can only export 1 document, and then the trial is over.

[Steelsymth]

Originally posted by death_to_all
Seeing as one movie is about someone who goes around killing baysitter's and other people on Halloween and is possessed and wants to kill all those of his next of kin, while the other Pinhead rules a realm known only as Hell and is the leader of the Cenobites. Pinhead is completely different from Michael Myers seeing as he has the cube that unlocks a world to pain and pleasure that can only mean death and turmoil.
Pinhead is someone who knows just where to hit a person, mortal when they're down and most vulnerable and that's what's so great about him.

Pinhead reminds me of my wife :D both her and Pinhead could kill Michael

[Sam The Egg]

:rolleyes: Ooooh, you wrote a script for it. Hey, do I still die in your little movie?



And if this is a fan-script why is it in the upcoming movie folder?

[MVP732]

eh

[death_to_all]

Guess what

[MVP732]

WHAT?!

[death_to_all]

Well let me see I'm not one to boast but then again this is too good to be true. I can help you if you want because I've just finished the first Act of my Michael Vs Pinhead and gave it to my agent and I might just be going to Hollywood. I sound mean I'm sorry, but if you want we can share ideas!

[Paul M. Johnson]

Whatever the outcome, can we please have a decisive winner. Nothing like the jason vs. freddy ordeal, please?

[death_to_all]

I thought that there was a decisive winner in that movie and it was Jason. Well in this one there will be but I don't like to give anything away unless I have to. I'm not even allowed because my agent thinks that my ideas might get stolen so I have to copyright it first. But I will tell you guys one thing and that is that all Hell will break loose! Enough of a hint for you.

[KRUGERKID13]

no more versus one was good enough to make another would be fucking crazy. It would be like all those scream copycats and it would eventually make a joke out of FVJ

[thEsounDofdirT]

first of all... pinhead and michael both kill because of ties to certain families.. michael... his own family... pinhead or... "the box" is tied to a family if you've seen Bloodlines...

the only thing that breaks this rule is halloween 8...

another thing... you would have to have michael open the box

also... pinhead would probably go on talking about so many crazy things... and michael would not stand there listening to it

[MVP732]

<QUOTE>Well let me see I'm not one to boast but then again this is too good to be true. I can help you if you want because I've just finished the first Act of my Michael Vs Pinhead and gave it to my agent and I might just be going to Hollywood. I sound mean I'm sorry, but if you want we can share ideas!</QUOTE>
I have a couple things to say about that. Firstly, can you maybe include some of my ideas into your script. And what is your script about? Oh and how old are you? Roughly

[kpropain]

How about Scooby Doo Vs Garfield:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[death_to_all]

Well MVP I'm about 16 and a half roughly and like I said I can help you. I don't like to brag or anything like that but there are some critics out there that would never take your script. Basically I'll tell you all I can about my script and nothing more because I have rights and also my agent doesn't like me to reveal anything I've written until it's published and so forth. Well it's the year 1990 Michael has just returned to Haddenfield where he takes a sudden turn from past events that have long ago happened. He isn't free of what plagues him and still feels that he must kill but there is something that is amiss with Michael. The audience will not know what it is until later on. He stumbles upon his family's crypt and trashes it through his hate. This awakens Pinhead and the other Cenobites and I can't tell you anymore. I haven't written much yet but if you want I'm open to your ideas and so forth. I haven't brainstormed enough to figure out the entire plot yet but I know the basis of it. That's all I can say at the moment. It may sound a little far-fetched and everything else but everything reveals itself as the plot unravels.

[thEsounDofdirT]

i still really don't see why michael myers would open the box... furthermore.. like i said.. the box is connected to a BLOODLINE.. .hence the 4th movie.. it explains all of that... so we're gonna find out that michael myers is in that bloodline?... arg...

i really just don't know about this

[Freddy Krueger.]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Pinhead would have no shot. Exactly. I hate them both but I hate pinhead more. And I'm not saying that Pinhead would lose because I hate him so much, but ebcause it's true.

[Freddy Krueger.]

Originally posted by kpropain
How about Scooby Doo Vs Garfield:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Shhh! Don't give them any ideas.

[thEsounDofdirT]

freddy do you hate all characters but kreuger and lecter?

[Threl kaar]

I heard the John Carpender and Clive Barker were going to make a Helloween but the fans begged him not too...

[thEsounDofdirT]

if clive barker and john carpenter got together and did this.. then ok... there might be something clever to tie them together... but i still think this would be a real push... i mean as you can see... pinhead didn't stand a chance against the doctor in hellraiser two... i think michael would tear HIS soul apart.. seeing as how michael was born pure evil... pinhead was born human and humane and at times shows a conscience

[death_to_all]

Trust me it's going to be one hell of a good movie. There isn't going to be anything crap about it. Michael will not open the box there will be a twist and a new way to summon Pinhead and the Cenobites. That's all I can say at the moment.

[thEsounDofdirT]

dude.. you can't just change the way to summon pinhead........

especially since bloodlines was done so far into the future.. it basically already wrote the guideline for all other movies

[death_to_all]

It will all fit nicely into place. Trust me I'm not changing anything not really anyway. It's going to be different I admit but it will make sense.

[thEsounDofdirT]

not changing anything really?!?!?!?!

you're taking away the center of the hellraiser series

[death_to_all]

No I'm not. You not understanding what I'm trying to say. It's like the movies but I'm only going to change a minor detail. It will still be the same and like I said before it will make sense. I was thinking of Michael opening the box but really why would he want to? So I'm trying hard to follow the storylines but to make it more realistic I'm changing how Pinhead is raised. It has something to do with the box but it will make it more inventive and realistic.

[MVP732]

how about someone else summons pinhead in Haddonfield and says that they will trade their life for another's. Pinhead hears about Michael and wants his soul instead of the person's and thats how they will fight. Or just like in Bloodline when the robot summoned Pinhead. You can have someone solve the box then simply leave the room he was summoned in and lock it. Or sumthin like that. Or... you can have someone trick Michael into getting trapped in Smith's Grove, and locks the doors, which inside Pinhead has already been summoned, then... Pinhead fgeels Michael's prescnce and lures him to him, and they strt slashing and whipping chains at each other. Sounds like a good movie to me.

[death_to_all]

That's a really good idea. I was thinking of doing something like that it sounds heaps better than what I was first going to do. Isn't that what happened in the first or second one. The second I think when the girl solved the box and the doctor wanted to go and Pinhead knew. Well I'll have to think about it but I think that it's a better idea than my own and I did say that I was open to any ideas from you MVP. I think that it might just work.

[thEsounDofdirT]

yea see that would work out much better.. taking the box out would be a huge mistake... but you know.. michael myers doesn't have a soul... he cannot die... he is just pure evil...

[MVP732]

michael myers doesn't have a soul... he cannot die... he is just pure evil...

well pinhead doesnt know that but he will find out what michael really is...;)

[thEsounDofdirT]

so basically.. pinhead is just being lured out to be murdered.. i seeeeeee..

[MVP732]

so basically.. pinhead is just being lured out to be murdered.. i seeeeeee..
Well yeah, that and for Michael to go to Hell and leave Haddonfield for good

[death_to_all]

Wait I have a really good idea based on what MVP said before, what should happen is that Michael should be waiting in some person's house for them to get home and when they do they are solving the box. Just as it is solved Michael jumps out of his hiding place and starts killing the person. Pinhead and the Cenobites show up and Pinhead is really pissed off and he decides to get revenge on Michael for invading his turf. Just like in Freddy Vs Jason but different.

[MVP732]

yeah that would work 2, but i think it whoever solves the box, wheter teens or whoever, should solve the box in smith's grove. Maybe they will go in andf trash the place as a Halloween prank, and some crazy has trhe box, they play around with it, Pinhead kills some of them, security comes in and calls the cops, and the insane asylum is shut down, news reporters are everywhere, Michael overhears this incident on the news,then Michael gets pissed off when he finds out there is another killer in Haddonfield and goes to the asylum to fight Pinhead.

[death_to_all]

Yeah that sounds good too. Both of our ideas are good maybe they can be combined.

[MVP732]

i think the idea of having new chracters in the movie and not reusing old ones would be better so those who haven't seen any hellraiser or halloween movies would get the movie too. Sort of like freddy vs. jason and how they just used some teens.

[thEsounDofdirT]

michael can't and won't be killed

[MVP732]

and with the movie in an insane asylum, i think it will give it creppier and cooler environments, and maybe we could add in a secret basement of the insane asylum where there is a bunch of cool weapons, things to destroy each other on, and other neat things, once again like freddy vs. jason at camp crystal lake

[MVP732]

michael can't and won't be killed
well that kind of goes off topic, but, we never said that he would die.

[death_to_all]

Yeah that's good, it would provide a scarier environment if it took place in an asylum. I think that that would make the audience sit up and pay attention to the movie and also that secret basement idea is interesting too. There would have to be a reason though for the amount of weapons in the basement they can't just be there, there has to be a reason.

[death_to_all]

No one does have to die Michael could just be taken back to Hell and live the rest of his "life" in torment and pain.

[MVP732]

well in freddy vs. jason there wasnt a point for those air tanks and those needle things since the camp is closed, but i guess the secret basement might be used as "training grounds" for Michael, but that would add new elements to the Halloween storyline which is bad in a way.

[thEsounDofdirT]

how is that off of topic... this is a thread about michael fighting pinhead correct?... michael will not be killed.. and michael will not be taken back to hell..

[death_to_all]

Then if that doesn't happen then the story line would totally suck and no one would go to see it. Trust me it would work out. You really like Michael don't you dirt?

[MVP732]

how is that off of topic... this is a thread about michael fighting pinhead correct?... michael will not be killed.. and michael will not be taken back to hell..
well first of all we were talking about the plot of them fighting, not who dies, and Michael will be taken to hell.

[thEsounDofdirT]

hell yea i like michael.. and i think he's a much bigger icon than pinhead.. i just don't think it's a good brawl... maybe michael vs. jason

[KRUGERKID13]

any movie where freddy fights someone and loses is asenine even though i loved FVJ it just is crazy he cant lose. Pinhead has to sleep even if he is in hell so hes not safe but freddy hes only in danger if hes alive in the real world and that can only happen if pinhead pulls him out and if freddy can get to him fast enough befor ph figures it out then its a no contest

[MVP732]

I also came up w/ a certain date for the movie, maybe 2008, or maybe further in the future so there couldbe a final winner without disturbing future sequels

[KRUGERKID13]

so as far as michael having a chance against ph there isnt one cause ph has his little goons and what not

[thEsounDofdirT]

michael takes on a bunch of people everytime he goes on screen...

pinhead and his crew are pansies compared to michael

[MVP732]

Michael could probably kill the other cenobites, but Pinhead's chains...I don't know about that

[thEsounDofdirT]

dude.. the doctor in hellraiser two aced every cenobite in that chamber.. including pinhead

[thEsounDofdirT]

i doubt michael would have much trouble

[MVP732]

that was because pinhead's soul left his flesh, or sumthin like that... Because when Kirsty showed him the picture and made him belive the truth he became powerless

[thEsounDofdirT]

yea.. and michael is never weak to that kidn of stuff

[KRUGERKID13]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
michael takes on a bunch of people everytime he goes on screen...

pinhead and his crew are pansies compared to michael

thats cause pinhead only kills those who called on them

[thEsounDofdirT]

which means michael is the more aggressive of the two

[MVP732]

yeah so, death_to_all, r u serious about the hollywood thing, if u r, give more details

[massacre man]

michael is emotionless

[thEsounDofdirT]

exactly .. he is emotionless.. i didn't say he was an angry killer.. he's a more aggressive killer.. meaning no one stands in his way and lives

pinhead can be bargained with... michael can't

[KRUGERKID13]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
which means michael is the more aggressive of the two

doesnt mean hes more powerful

[thEsounDofdirT]

:) he's a much more efficient killer..

[massacre man]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
exactly .. he is emotionless.. i didn't say he was an angry killer.. he's a more aggressive killer.. meaning no one stands in his way and lives

pinhead can be bargained with... michael can't

Dr.Loomis was in michael's way and didnt die he would still be in the series if donald pleasence (R.I.P) was still alive

[MVP732]

Michael can also be stopped by some druitic rituals and saying the phrase "SAMHAIN!" as Tommy Doyle did in Halloween 6, the producer's cut

[KRUGERKID13]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
:) he's a much more efficient killer..

no way he look how long it took him to kill some of the people hes killed and its been over '30 years and he still hasnt killed all his family.


dont get me wrong i love the halloween series i just think pinhead could take micheal

[thEsounDofdirT]

it takes entirely too much to get going in order for pinhead to make some kills

[MVP732]

no

[death_to_all]

I sent an email to u MVP.

[Miss Britt]

Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
dude.. the doctor in hellraiser two aced every cenobite in that chamber.. including pinhead
Unofficialy They were gonna replace Pinhead With the Doctor, but Doug Bradley Protested... Overall Pinhead Survived... YAY:D

[MVP732]

I sent an email to u MVP.
Can you resend it. I had to redo my email account.
[email protected]

[moonsorrow]

only wish i have is simple...dont

[scaredofchucky1]

lost......

[friday13thfan]

who cares

[thecritic]

I found a script online, a while ago, so it was probably fake but the idea was good.

Here it is:

Michael is still alive after Halloween Resurrection as we all know. He goes back to his house, only to find that there are a group of punk kids staying in the house. Of course, this sets him off to kill them. As they fend him off, they get locked in his room. There they find a diary that Michael was keeping and he begins to tell them about the Halloween Night he murdered his sister.

The story goes that he went out Trick-or-Treating with his sister. He goes around to the houses..blah blah blah and him and his sister go home. The last house they go to is very old, dark and scary. His sister is distracted by a boy, and Michael goes to the house. An old lady answers the door, and pulls Michael into the house. There she gives him "THE BOX" He goes home, opens the box and the spirit/demon SAMHAIN escapes and enters his body.

Back to the present--the punks then find the box hidden within the walls of Michaels room and open it. Pinhead comes forward at the same time that Michael enters the room. Pinhead realizes that Michael has Samhain within him and then this sets off the fight.

I thought that the idea was pretty good, what do you all think?
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[KRUGERKID13]

i wish theyed stop the vs. thing before it gets old

[thecritic]

They should just go to making single movies of the characters. Freddy and Jason were the only ones that could have had a movie because of the ending of JASON GOES TO HELL. There has never been any links to other movies.
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[bone collector]

i thought that was good

[MVP732]

Michael is still alive after Halloween Resurrection as we all know. He goes back to his house, only to find that there are a group of punk kids staying in the house. Of course, this sets him off to kill them. As they fend him off, they get locked in his room. There they find a diary that Michael was keeping and he begins to tell them about the Halloween Night he murdered his sister. The story goes that he went out Trick-or-Treating with his sister. He goes around to the houses..blah blah blah and him and his sister go home. The last house they go to is very old, dark and scary. His sister is distracted by a boy, and Michael goes to the house. An old lady answers the door, and pulls Michael into the house. There she gives him "THE BOX" He goes home, opens the box and the spirit/demon SAMHAIN escapes and enters his body.

Back to the present--the punks then find the box hidden within the walls of Michaels room and open it. Pinhead comes forward at the same time that Michael enters the room. Pinhead realizes that Michael has Samhain within him and then this sets off the fight.
1st of all Michael's house burned down at the end of ressurection. 2nd of all he isnt possessed with a demon called SAMHAIN. Samhain is another word for Halloween. He is inflicted with Thorn, a druitic mythogical curse.

[death_to_all]

But Halloween still has some influence on Michael. At least that's what I think because why else would he have killed his sister on Halloween and also escaped near Halloween too. He may not be possessed by "Halloween" but there is some part of Halloween that interacts with Thorn making him kill his next of kin and others that happen to get in his way!

[thecritic]

I was aware of the Thorn and everything, it was just what I had found on the web one day.
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[bone collector]

1st of all only the garage burns down, just to let you know

I have a suggestion

Pinhead should take michael to hell and make him watch pinhead torture Laurie, because she is already dead,

Pretty good huh

[death_to_all]

That is a good idea.

[bone collector]

I think it would be good because, it makes michael want to fight pinhead

[Tubalcain]

you are aware that pinhead is not a demon, right? the cennobites are aliens from a different plane of existence, not hell. but still a cool idea.

[MVP732]

yeah actually they are from hell.

[mothermold]

Originally posted by bone collector
Like what you said ill give you some suggestions

Michael should be held at a maximum security prison and he escapes on halloween when he finds out he has a uncle or a relative. The reletive should be stalked and the relative should find the lament configuration and solve it and pinhead kills her and Michael sees it and he and pinhead have a battle.

Ill give you more when i tjink of something

whaaat??this is beyond stupid.:mad:

[death_to_all]

Says you!

[Hate_Breeder]

What the hell is going down? :confused:

[bone collector]

yeah, says him

[Hate_Breeder]

WOW! :confused:

[mothermold]

Originally posted by death_to_all
Says you!

if you respect either one of the franchises you'd drop this ridiculous thread.clive barker himself said "the more and more you show the villian the less and less frightening he/she becomes."and honestly,has'nt enough damage been done to each respective franchise?the writing's certainly"on the wall"when both creators/writers have washed their hands of thier own inventions.:(

[Scarymovie411]

I agree with all the people that said this is a stupid idea....Leave this to the script writers (although they will probably mess it up more)

[Scarymovie411]

Originally posted by mothermold
if you respect either one of the franchises you'd drop this ridiculous thread.clive barker himself said "the more and more you show the villian the less and less frightening he/she becomes."and honestly,has'nt enough damage been done to each respective franchise?the writing's certainly"on the wall"when both creators/writers have washed their hands of thier own inventions.:(


I totally agree with that..Our generation is destroying all of these good/classic horror movies...

[mothermold]

Originally posted by Scarymovie411
I totally agree with that..Our generation is destroying all of these good/classic horror movies...


amen!:)

[MrShape]

Well, hell, why stop at just two slashers? Why not make a movie with every single slasher anti hero in it? You could have Freddy, Jason, Leahterface, Micheal Myers, Chucky, Angela from Night Of The Deoms, the Scream stalker, and Pinhead all in the same movie. And the human characters could be the people from the antique shop from Friday The 13th: The Series. Then we could really pack the multiplexes with bullshit.

Just in case anyone missed it, that was a joke.

But then again, New Line does own the rights to Leatherface, so there's always the frieghtening possibility of a Freddy Vs Jason Vs Leatherface! :eek: And I did hear some nonsense about a Freddy and Jason Vs Ash! Make it stop! :confused:

[freddy69]

u really fuckin stupid .

[freddy69]

who the hell came up with that shit

[MVP732]

your mom

[LatinLoco]

MVP, I read your MM vs PH script. It's pretty cool, but some shit really sucks.
Example:
1. Michael that watches television??? Does he even know how to turn the damn thing on?????
2. Why did John Tate sacrifice himself????
3. You say that Michael would become immortal after he killed his whole family. If he wasn't immortal allready, then what the fuck was heeeeeeee?

But after all it's a good script, keep it up!

[bone collector]

hey mvp, can u send me the script pleez:) thanx , my email is [email protected]

[JokerMONEY3000]

i liked it :)

[toolboxkiller]

thats stupidass, u suck

[MVP732]

MVP, I read your MM vs PH script. It's pretty cool, but some shit really sucks.
Yeah my old script was pretty bad, i even admit it, but my new one is pretty good. In a couple of days I'll post a link to it.

[toolboxkiller]

yeah i guess i'll check it out.

[thecritic]

hey send me a copy of it:

[email protected]
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[MVP732]

the release date of my new MVP script and website will be on September 10th. The script may be feature length, something like 75 to 80 pages.

[death_to_all]

Thats nice I bet it will be better than the last one you wrote.

[massacre man]

Originally posted by death_to_all
Thats nice I bet it will be better than the last one you wrote. it will be

[death_to_all]

Yeah, well my own script is on its way to Hollywood soon.

[massacre man]

Originally posted by death_to_all
Yeah, well my own script is on its way to Hollywood soon. thats a long way to go austrailia to hollywood

[toolboxkiller]

i want to read it again can you please send it to [email protected]

[bone collector]

i just hope it will make sense this time

[death_to_all]

Yep I know that, but then again it will be worth it in the end, won't it?

[bone collector]

i hope so

[MVP732]

hey anyone who wants to talk about Michael vs. Pinhead, AIM me. My screenname is KoolKatFromHell

[death_to_all]

Been there done that and no reply!

[MVP732]

try again

[death_to_all]

I believe that my days are already filled out and I have enough to occupy my mind to.

[luke_dm5]

Personally, I think Michael is a bit of a softy. Pinhead rules !

[bone collector]

Michaels not that much of a softy, i mean in halloween 6 when he was at smith grove sanitarium near the end, he killed five doctors at one time with a huge ass knife, but he is a softy with jamie and laurie, if he is sooo affectionate to laurie and jamie, then why did he kill them,

[death_to_all]

True, I agree with the collector. If Michael were that soft then he wouldn't have killed in the first place. I have to admit though that compared to others that he has killed he has been a lot softer when it comes to his next of kin. It's like he feels that he has to kill them even though he doesn't really want to all together.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by luke_dm5
Personally, I think Michael is a bit of a softy.

:mad:

[death_to_all]

I think that Michael is cool even though Pinhead is better but both of them can be soft when they want to be.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by death_to_all
I think that Michael is cool even though Pinhead is better but both of them can be soft when they want to be.

I can live with that. :cool:

[bone collector]

But death, he wasnt at all affectionate to Judith, yet he stabbed her 9 times and showed no affection to her either, i think that the thorn symbol is makin him do things he doesnt wanna, because he is affectionate to the family because he doesnt wanna kill them but he has to anyway, Michael is very confusing

[death_to_all]

Yeah I know that collector. I didn't say that he was soft on her I meant Laurie and Jamie. He acted completely different to them than he would if he really wanted them dead.

[bone collector]

But if i he didnt, then why was he to jamie and laurie, tell me that because im :confused: