Cannibal Holocaust?

[Mr. Zombie]

Last year I came across a documentary titled "The Dark Side of Porn" which was about snuff. In this documentary it talked about movies such as Guinea Pig, Faces of Death and Cannibal Holocaust, because these movies were at time thought to be real. So I few weeks later I managed to find a copy of Cannibal Holocaust on dvd in the local video store. I watched it by myself and thought it was one of the greatest movies around.
What did you guys feel after you watched it?

[pythagoraz]

I think it was boring as hell...

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/Movies/53358/Cannibal+Holocaust.html?aid=110865

Watch it here and see for your self people... It wasn't half as scary as people say it is. :(

[illdojo]

I watched it by myself and thought it was one of the greatest movies around.


Greatest movies around, huh? You obviously don't watch enough good films.
Maybe you should stop watching so much porn and animal torture...you weirdo. :rolleyes:

[ChronoGrl]

I thought, as I mentioned to you in the "Last Classic Horror You Watched" thread, that you should read the forum description, and that you should discuss modern horror films in the Modern Horror forum.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Chronogrl/oldman.jpg

after the fact i see how that would be ..

at the time it was just the imagery of 'boil him, boil him' that jumped into my head :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Chronogrl/holygrail.jpg

bwahahahahahaha. I <3 you both. That exchange was priceless.





P.S. NE - Forum Disciplinarian... Will you discipline me? ;)

[urgeok2]

bwahahahahahaha. I <3 you both. That exchange was priceless.




step lightly, the boy's a tad touchy :p

[neverending]

It just bugs me when tweeny boppers who've seen maybe a dozen horror films in their life- all made after 2006- and start mewling about "classic horror" like Fido and Texas Chainsaw Massacre The Beginning.

Classic Horror refers to a specific time, people- not whatever films you saw when you were a kid 3 years ago!

[ChronoGrl]

It just bugs me when tweeny boppers who've seen maybe a dozen horror films in their life- all made after 2006- and start mewling about "classic horror" like Fido and Texas Chainsaw Massacre The Beginning.

Classic Horror refers to a specific time, people- not whatever films you saw when you were a kid 3 years ago!

Oh, I completely agree with you. I just love it when you yell at n00bs. :D

[Hilti88NYC]

CH is good.I personally prefer Cannibal ferox.

[VampiricClown]

I personally thought the movie was boring and pointless.

[pythagoraz]

I personally thought the movie was boring and pointless.

And once more we agree...! ;)

[_____V_____]

P.S. NE - Forum Disciplinarian... Will you discipline me? ;)

That girl is quite a handful. Wonder how her man manages...:eek:


And NE, in hot contention for Best Newbie Flamer award after Drac left the podium eh? :p

[onewhosighs]

The most controversial horror movie since The Exorcist.

Seriously, in what other movie did the director have to bring his cast to court to prove they were not really dead?

Probably the most disturbing movie of all time and definitely competes for the goriest movie of all time spot (with dead alive, bad taste, cannibal ferox, evil dead, etc etc)

[ManchestrMorgue]

All you need to know about this film is:

1. the human deaths were real
2. the animal deaths were fake.


This has been deemed to be true on this very forum.
:D :D :D :D

[Despare]

All you need to know about this film is:

1. the human deaths were real
2. the animal deaths were fake.


This has been deemed to be true on this very forum.
:D :D :D :D

Yep yep!



A remake at this stage couldn't bring anything new or interesting to the formula but I hear one is coming... hopefully it's been canceled.

[newb]

Where's the beardy freak when we need him?

[urgeok2]

A remake at this stage couldn't bring anything new or interesting to the formula but I hear one is coming... hopefully it's been canceled.

he's making another cannibal film - this one takes place inner city.

heard it from the horse's mouth ..



i love having an excuse to post this again :D

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[Vodstok]

None of the "Cannibal" series has ever held any interest to me. I don't like pure gore, and i don't care to throw any money or attention toward someone who actually killed anything to make a movie (aside from plants, just in case anyone decides to be a smart ass)

Ive said it a thousand times here, I don't care for style over substance.

[ManchestrMorgue]

None of the "Cannibal" series has ever held any interest to me. I don't like pure gore, and i don't care to throw any money or attention toward someone who actually killed anything to make a movie (aside from plants, just in case anyone decides to be a smart ass)

Ive said it a thousand times here, I don't care for style over substance.


Plant murderer!!!!!

[Vodstok]

i will be honest, my stance about killing plants has been pretty lenient. I get a sick thrill out of all of the plants killed in Predator.

[CrimsonFiend138]

The most controversial horror movie since The Exorcist.

Seriously, in what other movie did the director have to bring his cast to court to prove they were not really dead?

Probably the most disturbing movie of all time and definitely competes for the goriest movie of all time spot (with dead alive, bad taste, cannibal ferox, evil dead, etc etc)

What was so gory about evil dead?

[urgeok2]

What was so gory about evil dead?

for it's time ?
it was incredibly gory - especially the pencil in the ankle ...

[ChronoGrl]

All you need to know about this film is:

1. the human deaths were real
2. the animal deaths were fake.


This has been deemed to be true on this very forum.
:D :D :D :D

I don't know if you're joking or not... :confused:

I've heard so many urban legends about this movie, but I've never actually seen it.

[fortunato]

I don't know if you're joking or not... :confused:

I've heard so many urban legends about this movie, but I've never actually seen it.

you should watch it.

however, manchester was joking.
in fact, the exact opposite of that is true.

if you're an animal-lover, beware.

although deodato has always claimed that every animal killed for the movie was eaten by the locals afterwards.

[ManchestrMorgue]

I don't know if you're joking or not... :confused:

I've heard so many urban legends about this movie, but I've never actually seen it.


Yeah I was joking.

I was referring to a very old thread where quite a serious argument ensued over these points. It was claimed that the human deaths were all real and the animal deaths fake.

[CrimsonFiend138]

I think it was boring as hell...

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/Movies/53358/Cannibal+Holocaust.html?aid=110865

Watch it here and see for your self people... It wasn't half as scary as people say it is. :(

Thank you so much for surfthechannel.com. I never knew about it and now theres so much I can watch THANK YOU!!

[TheDarkEnchantress]

I only watched the first 40 minutes. It seemed so real (like the tree people skinning someone, I thought that was real), I couldnt watch anymore, but I plan on watching the rest. About the killing of animals, is retarded but whats done is done.

[The Flayed One]

Here's an excellent dissertation on the film by our member Pr3ssur3 (whom I hope is still around.)

1] Cannibal Holocaust is a film very much more talked about than actually seen, particularly by (typically male) teenagers and those over 30 who might remember the controversy when the film was banned all over the world upon release. To the younger (potential) spectator, it can be the exciting film ‘where real people die on camera’. Those more mature might be less convinced, but nonetheless remain wary of the film until they have actually seen it, and been reassured.

Fan discourse seriously affects the reception – and perception – of Cannibal Holocaust. Starting at the beginning, that this is ‘A Ruggero Deodato’ picture could excite exploitation fans familiar with his Last Cannibal World made two years earlier – which was a new and aggressive ‘jungle adventure’ featuring cannibalism and animal butchery. This was made in response to an earlier ‘native savage’ epic (Deep River Savages), and really started the bandwagon rolling as different directors tried to out-gross each other in this (primarily Italian) sub-genre. So while the average cinema customer would not be seen dead at any of these films because of their notoriously violent and worthless reputation, they were a huge hit on the grindhouse circuit to jaded audiences and those seeking wilder entertainment.

Early reviews of Cannibal Holocaust were united in condemnation, mostly concentrating on the animal cruelty scenes. They also helped propagate the myth that the human deaths might not be special effects, sometimes referring to the real execution footage and blurring the line of reality between those shot dead and those eaten. To curious viewers with stronger stomachs this could be irresistible, and make the film a ‘must see’ – perhaps if only to satisfy oneself that this is not a real murder (or ‘snuff’) film and come out of it feeling more informed than the average person and equipped to pontificate about it. This attitude seems common in many of those who have seen the film, particularly ‘film buffs’ desperate to impress about such controversial (and hard to find, at least uncut) work. ‘Serious’ reviewers were quick to denounce the film as ‘phoney’ – people do not die after all – and hypocritical, as in true Italian Mondo tradition the film purports to condemn what it takes great voyeuristic delight in displaying. This did not affect public curiosity, and conversely boosted ticket sales as people still wanted to find out what all the fuss was about. The film reaches out to the darker, voyeuristic natures buried within us all – and people always want to investigate controversy and scandal if only to judge it for themselves.

Unlike other films, with the passing of time Cannibal Holocaust has lost none of its ferocious power. The sub-genre of cannibal movies has long since died out (unlikely many directors would be able to include the requisite animal slaughter with today’s tighter laws against cruelty), but new generations of horror and exploitation fans keep it very much alive and DVD reissues make such films more widely available. Decades of review and analysis reveal it to be still widely condemned because of its approach to animals and depicted atrocities, but it has now also been accepted as a unique and very intelligent film with a lot more technical achievement (its manipulative ‘fake documentary’ style is quite significant in these times of ‘reality’ TV) and message (interpreted as pure hypocrisy by most, as bravely constructive by others) than previously considered – the message is tackled in the next section. Once the furore over the film’s initial release had calmed down, critics were able to look beneath the viscera and wayward claims of ‘snuff’ to discover a cleverly shot and edited film (how difficult is it for professional cinematographers to ‘dumb down’ their skills in such a way to convince the audience the verite footage might be ‘real’… while still applying just the correct amount of style to make the trick watchable?), well acted (save for some poor dubbing) and – at the time – totally original in its style and execution.

Whether they admire or dislike the film, commentators of Cannibal Holocaust have one thing in common – they generally agree it is a hypocritical – even racist – piece of work, summed up in its using the final thoughts of the professor who wonders ‘who the real cannibals are?’ as justification to display all the hardcore carnage that has gone before. There is a moral to the story – that it is not civilised man’s right to plunder the world of the unknown – but so brutally and apparently contemptuously is it attempted to be forced home the point is easily lost. Pure exploitation is the charge, and since the film is a figurehead of the whole 70s/80s European sleaze and violence trend few have bothered to try and view it as anything more than questionable titillation, or a very guilty pleasure. The director it would seem wanted to shock us with graphic depictions of one of the greatest taboos, spice it up with real animal and human deaths and dubiously try and explain it all away with a glib comment right at the very end. However, there is another theory that many have missed the point and interpreted Deodato’s film incorrectly.

The first narrative of Cannibal Holocaust is the professor’s mission to investigate the missing documentary crew. He treats the natives with dignity and respect, and eventually earns both acceptance and the telltale film cans they are holding as a result – sealing the agreement with his gift of a tape recorder the natives have become instantly fascinated with. This ‘proper’ narrative displays evidence that the best way of maintaining the virility of the indigenous social structure is to allow periodic redistribution of structural forces. The ‘proper’ film clears up the huge mess left by the documentary crew in the ‘improper’ film – the significance made all the greater if we consider the explicit and voyeuristic pleasure in cruelty and barbarism that has gone before. New social relations are restored from their collapse, as the morally sanctioned gift cycle upholds the social cycle.

The second narrative documents the collapse of the exchange system, the most basic and primitive ritual of civilisation. Even amongst themselves the crew have no respect for public and private boundaries, filming themselves emerging naked from a shower, vomiting and defecating – but more obvious is their exercise in destroying the system of giving and taking, with their raping and pillaging of the native tribe. The ‘improper’ film then warns us of the consequences of this social breakdown, and the selfish and aggressive system of taking and taking back.

So, rather than being about chaos and destruction, his film is about restoration and redistribution. This has been lost on people distracted by the alleged voyeurism/racist hypocrisy claims, and no doubt because of the narrative structure which displays the restorative/‘proper’ story before the destructive/’improper’ film, leaving a nasty taste when the film finishes instead of a positive note. Also, a final statement just before the end credits reveals we are watching this film because it was smuggled out of the TV studio after the professor ordered the footage to be burned – the employee responsible joining in the chaos.

Exposed as not quite the studied hypocrisy it is widely thought to be, we should consider another cause of such widespread condemnation. The earlier project from the documentary crew is genuine third-world atrocity footage – executions of men tied to trees and shot – and while undeniably real, slips by almost unnoticed between the two main narratives. It is described as a ‘set up’, which does not suggest the footage is ‘acted’ with special effects but rather that the crew have paid to have such an event arranged for their cameras.

This short clip puts the elaborately amateurish cannibal ‘documentary’ into perspective, and breaks the taboos the acted tale merely pretends to – that of voyeurism of the moment of death. The viewer, having observed the execution footage, knows somehow it is real – yet has not been prompted to release any emotion or outrage about it since it is presented low-key and undramatically. Once the acted destruction and cannibal scenes begin to unfold in the ‘improper’ narrative, the shock, reprehension even anger generated from viewing the executions is unleashed. The melodramatic faked killings must carry the can for the viewer briefly witnessing real death.

Therefore in conclusion, Cannibal Holocaust reveals another flip side to its charges of exploitation and voyeuristic nature. The rules we unconsciously desire to break are broken without our knowledge in the fleeting but troubling experience of the execution footage, but little attention is drawn to that. The cinematic intrusion toyed with in the cannibal sequences is endorsed and consolidated by our watching the real death footage, as it sanctions the film’s narrative consequence and is a crucial glimpse of the nightmare reality Cannibal Holocaust disguises itself as. Deodato’s film provokes morbid curiosity and subsequent guilt about the private moment of death – very cleverly – with these interesting results. Very few women seem to want to experience this film. Perhaps it is down to the truthful rumours of genuine animal slaughter, or the untrue tales of human murder (in the cannibalistic sense at least), which both require the stoic, even macho defences of the male viewer who makes up the higher percentage of horror/exploitation fanatics. However, examining the more rational and considered ways the film should be interpreted, it is interesting that such an intelligent and provocative piece of work remains largely hidden behind myth and hysteria.

[fortunato]

^
wow, very impressive.

[_____V_____]

Here's an excellent dissertation on the film by our member Pr3ssur3 (whom I hope is still around.)

Brilliant and extremely thoughtful insight. Such an effort should not be lost.

I have included this as a long blurb in the Sickest, Gorific & Disturbing Top 100 Sticky, so that it is immortalised in HDC Stickies.

Haven't seen PR3SSUR3 around for a long while now. Maybe he's still lurking in the shadows, and may make a comeback.

[The Flayed One]

Thanks for doing that, V. I re-posted that in the Posting Hall of Fame thread, which has long since been dwelling in the annals of HDC history. That is definately one quote which should not be forgotten.

[urgeok2]

Brilliant and extremely thoughtful insight. Such an effort should not be lost.

I have included this as a long blurb in the Sickest, Gorific & Disturbing Top 100 Sticky, so that it is immortalised in HDC Stickies.

Haven't seen PR3SSUR3 around for a long while now. Maybe he's still lurking in the shadows, and may make a comeback.


every once in a while i gat an email from him out of the blue ..

he's involved in film - not exactly sure in what capacity ..

i do know this though - the boy has a great big brain - and i'm sure he'll be wildly successful no matter what he's doing.

[_____V_____]

every once in a while i gat an email from him out of the blue ..

he's involved in film - not exactly sure in what capacity ..

i do know this though - the boy has a great big brain - and i'm sure he'll be wildly successful no matter what he's doing.

I am sure.

He's a talented guy...if not anything, he could be a great critic of the genre in his own right.

And if he's into movie-making, we might be seeing a good deal of him as Rob Zombie #2. ;)

[ChronoGrl]

you should watch it.

however, manchester was joking.
in fact, the exact opposite of that is true.

if you're an animal-lover, beware.

although deodato has always claimed that every animal killed for the movie was eaten by the locals afterwards.

Thanks, Fortunato.

I had heard that the animal deaths were real; I just wasn't sure whether or not it was an Urban Legend.

Talk about great free press for the movie, though. I mean, based on TheDarkEnchantress's feedback (ie the realistic gore), I really want to see this now.

I have an issue with animal abuse, though... Not sure if I'd be able to sit through it.

[trx1]

id liked ferox better

[TheDarkEnchantress]

Thanks, Fortunato.

I had heard that the animal deaths were real; I just wasn't sure whether or not it was an Urban Legend.

Talk about great free press for the movie, though. I mean, based on TheDarkEnchantress's feedback (ie the realistic gore), I really want to see this now.

I have an issue with animal abuse, though... Not sure if I'd be able to sit through it.

If you didnt know much about this film, you would swear its real.

[Devil-Hunter]

This Is In the wrong section.

Cannibal Holocaust Is a great movie except for the animal killings but It doesnt come close to being the best horror movie

[Vodstok]

This Is In the wrong section.

And why is that? I would say a movie with a wide cult audience and just shy of 30 years old would qualify as a classic.

[ChronoGrl]

And why is that? I would say a movie with a wide cult audience and just shy of 30 years old would qualify as a classic.

Take it up with NE. :p

I thought, as I mentioned to you in the "Last Classic Horror You Watched" thread, that you should read the forum description, and that you should discuss modern horror films in the Modern Horror forum.

[Disease]

This Is In the wrong section.

Cannibal Holocaust Is a great movie except for the animal killings but It doesnt come close to being the best horror movie

If it doesn't come close to being the best horror movie in your opinion then why do you say it is one of your two favorite horror movies... http://www.pic4ever.com/images/ugly_irre.gif

[Devil-Hunter]

If it doesn't come close to being the best horror movie in your opinion then why do you say it is one of your two favorite horror movies... http://www.pic4ever.com/images/ugly_irre.gif

It my top nasty movie and Dawn is my top zombie movie.

[Disease]

It my top nasty movie and Dawn is my top zombie movie.

So you edited your post in your welcome thread, that's great, but not before you were quoted by Chrono.

So you have conflicting opinions with yourself, fantastic. :confused:

[Devil-Hunter]

Well I dont really care I know what movies I like and dont.

[Disease]

Well I dont really care I know what movies I like and dont.

I don't think you do.

[pre cert sniffer]

i would class it as a modern day classic example of the cannibal exploitation film jaundre.
Its up there at the top along with Cannibal Ferox as the mother of all cannibal movies.
What Devil-Hunter is trying to relay is that he likes the film ,but, he does not see it as a classic --his version of a classic is like older movies i think-??
However cannibal holocaust is a classic in its own jaundre , cannibal movies are all mostly compared to Holocaust, its like the Gone With The Wind of cannibal films--I personally love the film...animal deaths or not... its a classic amoung video nasties!!! and if your sad and havent seen it -download it and have a look..but remmember its only a film, nobody got hurt..or did they?;) LOL

[neverending]

If you look in the list of forums, you will see "Classic Horror" is defined as horror filmes of the 60s and BEFORE.

This forum is for discussion of classic horror films, as defined on HDC- not whatever films you happen to love from your childhood.

I don't know- are n00bs unable to read? We have to go through this every time we get one.

And there's an active thread about the film in Modern Horror, where it belongs. Why do we need TWO?

[illdojo]

And there's an active thread about the film in Modern Horror, where it belongs. Why do we need TWO?

I hear ya, NE.

Hey n00bs...post in the damn Modern Horror Movies forum.
Cannibal Holocaust is very overrated anyway....Sheesh. :rolleyes:

[CrimsonFiend138]

After all the talk about this movie I wanted to see it. I stayed with my bro this past week and his boyfriend is a HUGE horror buff. He happened to have an extra copy( that and Zombie) so I watched it the other night and I must say I thought a was a great movie.

It was very raw. Alot of WOAH moments and the music was great. I loved the song in the opening credits(totally contrast to the contents of the movie) Great, I'm glad I finally got to see it(besides the animal deaths).

[Painfulldeath]

I tried watching this about a month ago and stopped after about 30 minutes. I think it was a combination of seeing the first animal killing (which was really unnecessary and brutal), watching some savage shove various foreign objects in that woman's vag...finally killing her, and then some guy whipped out his shlong to confuse the cannibal tribe. It was just like a gross-out overload. Maybe I'll just man up and watch it again...:cool:

[Festered]

I hear ya, NE.

Hey n00bs...post in the damn Modern Horror Movies forum.
Cannibal Holocaust is very overrated anyway....Sheesh. :rolleyes:

Huh, it's like they didn't even hear you. Huh!

[CrimsonFiend138]

I tried watching this about a month ago and stopped after about 30 minutes. I think it was a combination of seeing the first animal killing (which was really unnecessary and brutal), watching some savage shove various foreign objects in that woman's vag...finally killing her, and then some guy whipped out his shlong to confuse the cannibal tribe. It was just like a gross-out overload. Maybe I'll just man up and watch it again...:cool:

LOL thats not even the tip of it.

[hacelikewhoa]

ewwww. my bf is obessed with cannibal holocaust I think he knows more about it than anybody in the world ha

[The Photographer]

No trust me anyone who has ever been to a forum is going to know the same stuff since every forum has like 50 threads and 1000 post about this movie. It is a great film buyt it seems like every noob thinks they have to start a thread on this movie in order to seem legit. They need a section titled obvious threads. It should include this, Your thoughts on Saw, and the ever popular Top 10 favorite horror movies. LOL

[Keith Stryton III]

I have been fortunate/unfortunate to see this film. I'm not sure about it. When I first watched it, I hated it. But reading your posts has made me reappraise my feelings towards the film. I am frightfully lost. Everything has got to be black and white with me. I don't like grey areas. 'Cannibal Holocaust' sends me into a grey world where I don't know myself. That is scary. To me, that is horror. Fear personified. One debate that always rages when this film comes up, is animal violence. I have a good friend who is a vegetarian. I'm not ashamed to say it, but I eat meat. And sometimes this causes conflict between us. "How do you do it?" asks my friend as I tuck into my triple burger and cheese, and I reply hungrily with bulging cheeks, "This my friend is heaven." Now I think film is art. But so is eating. What I'm trying to say is, if animals are being killed in the name of art and food, then I'm all for it. I admit, when I was younger, I participated in an amateur movie where we beat a cat with sticks. At first I didn't want to do it, but when the others started clapping their hands and shouting my name as I gave the first strokes, I felt a blood lust surge in my frame and a feeling of acceptance. I was laughing and crying at the same time as I was beating it, this showing how conflicted my emotions were. Man is god and devil rolled into one. There is no heaven. There is no hell. Man makes his own. And when I killed that cat I made my own hell. The police had a chat and I'm not allowed pets anymore. I often talk about this incident with Clive, my spirit guide, who I keep in a pepper pot. He said I will relive that incident in every life that I have, an incident that will forever spiral away into infinity as I am doomed to repeat it over and over again. Clive really likes 'Cannibal Holocaust'.

[hacelikewhoa]

I have been fortunate/unfortunate to see this film. I'm not sure about it. When I first watched it, I hated it. But reading your posts has made me reappraise my feelings towards the film. I am frightfully lost. Everything has got to be black and white with me. I don't like grey areas. 'Cannibal Holocaust' sends me into a grey world where I don't know myself. That is scary. To me, that is horror. Fear personified. One debate that always rages when this film comes up, is animal violence. I have a good friend who is a vegetarian. I'm not ashamed to say it, but I eat meat. And sometimes this causes conflict between us. "How do you do it?" asks my friend as I tuck into my triple burger and cheese, and I reply hungrily with bulging cheeks, "This my friend is heaven." Now I think film is art. But so is eating. What I'm trying to say is, if animals are being killed in the name of art and food, then I'm all for it. I admit, when I was younger, I participated in an amateur movie where we beat a cat with sticks. At first I didn't want to do it, but when the others started clapping their hands and shouting my name as I gave the first strokes, I felt a blood lust surge in my frame and a feeling of acceptance. I was laughing and crying at the same time as I was beating it, this showing how conflicted my emotions were. Man is god and devil rolled into one. There is no heaven. There is no hell. Man makes his own. And when I killed that cat I made my own hell. The police had a chat and I'm not allowed pets anymore. I often talk about this incident with Clive, my spirit guide, who I keep in a pepper pot. He said I will relive that incident in every life that I have, an incident that will forever spiral away into infinity as I am doomed to repeat it over and over again. Clive really likes 'Cannibal Holocaust'.

Oh, my god. I don't know how anyone could torture an animal like like. It's sickening. Especially when it's a domestic animal. I think I would kill a human being before I'd ever hurt an animal like that.

[Keith Stryton III]

I think I would kill a human being before I'd ever hurt an animal like that.

I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

[hacelikewhoa]

I wasn't trying to be mean btw...I just a big cat lover.

[Painfulldeath]

I have been fortunate/unfortunate to see this film. I'm not sure about it. When I first watched it, I hated it. But reading your posts has made me reappraise my feelings towards the film. I am frightfully lost. Everything has got to be black and white with me. I don't like grey areas. 'Cannibal Holocaust' sends me into a grey world where I don't know myself. That is scary. To me, that is horror. Fear personified. One debate that always rages when this film comes up, is animal violence. I have a good friend who is a vegetarian. I'm not ashamed to say it, but I eat meat. And sometimes this causes conflict between us. "How do you do it?" asks my friend as I tuck into my triple burger and cheese, and I reply hungrily with bulging cheeks, "This my friend is heaven." Now I think film is art. But so is eating. What I'm trying to say is, if animals are being killed in the name of art and food, then I'm all for it. I admit, when I was younger, I participated in an amateur movie where we beat a cat with sticks. At first I didn't want to do it, but when the others started clapping their hands and shouting my name as I gave the first strokes, I felt a blood lust surge in my frame and a feeling of acceptance. I was laughing and crying at the same time as I was beating it, this showing how conflicted my emotions were. Man is god and devil rolled into one. There is no heaven. There is no hell. Man makes his own. And when I killed that cat I made my own hell. The police had a chat and I'm not allowed pets anymore. I often talk about this incident with Clive, my spirit guide, who I keep in a pepper pot. He said I will relive that incident in every life that I have, an incident that will forever spiral away into infinity as I am doomed to repeat it over and over again. Clive really likes 'Cannibal Holocaust'.

LOL............