Rob Zombie's Halloween

[glm]

Rob Zombie's making a remake of Halloween. How do you think it will turn out?

[Elvis_Christ]

Rob Zombie's making a remake of Halloween. How do you think it will turn out?

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[Angelique]

I dont normally like remakes of classic horror films. The remakes dont normally compare to the original, however I am a big fan of 'House of 100 Corpses' & 'The Devil's Rejects' I think Rob Zombie would be able to make the film his own, cause he has such a creative and unique style of film making (well I think so anyway ;) )

I would definately go and see it, and I don't beleive I would be dissapointed :)

[Prelude95Si]

Rob Zombie's making a remake of Halloween. How do you think it will turn out?

First off this would be better in the upcoming horror movies forum.
Second there is already a thread for this in the upcoming horror movies forum.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24519

[glm]

I haven't figured out how to delete this. :(

[ferretchucker]

I got this link from another forum by XtRaVa. I was actually looking forward to this film. What a bloody fool I was.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31221

[alkytrio666]

I got this link from another forum by XtRaVa.


Who probably got that link from this link originally: http://horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27191

:rolleyes: ;)

[AUSTIN316426808]

I don't see what the problem is, he's making it the way he wants to make it which is what a remake is supposed to be. The director takes the base of the story and does it his way.

Most remakes are just cashing in by making a modern, watered down version of something that worked before. That's not remaking, that's regurgitating. Zombie is actually going to(or at least it seems he's trying to) give us something new. I'd rather see a completely new vision of Halloween instead of the old Halloween with a better camera and super model cast that's good for nothing but nude shots and screaming.

Might be good..might be bad, only way you're going to know is by watching it not reading what one guy thinks about a script draft.

[Angra]

I don't see what the problem is, he's making it the way he wants to make it which is what a remake is supposed to be. The director takes the base of the story and does it his way.

Most remakes are just cashing in by making a modern, watered down version of something that worked before. That's not remaking, that's regurgitating. Zombie is actually going to(or at least it seems he's trying to) give us something new. I'd rather see a completely new vision of Halloween instead of the old Halloween with a better camera and super model cast that's good for nothing but nude shots and screaming.

Might be good..might be bad, only way you're going to know is by watching it not reading what one guy thinks about a script draft.


Agreed.

Even though i´m sure Rob´s version is gonna be waaaý more gory and bloody.

That´s not for me. :(

[paws the great]

I'll buy the dvd when it comes out.I'm not a huge fan of Rob Zombie or Halloween.

[Despare]

I agree with Austin, he's adding his own touch to it which is what remakes SHOULD be. Carbon copies of the original movies are pointless and don't require much talent in my opinion.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Agreed.

Even though i´m sure Rob´s version is gonna be waaaý more gory and bloody.

That´s not for me. :(

It's for me though. :)

[the_real_linda]

and me....cant wait!!

[Despare]

It's for me though. :)

Color me red, I'm a gorehound too.

[can't get enough gore]

Color me red, I'm a gorehound too.

so am i but it doesnt make sense to add gore into a film that never had any

[Shadow]

so am i but it doesnt make sense to add gore into a film that never had any

Hmmmmmm you dont really know that. It might add to the effect of the film.

[ferretchucker]

I don't see what the problem is, he's making it the way he wants to make it which is what a remake is supposed to be. The director takes the base of the story and does it his way.

Most remakes are just cashing in by making a modern, watered down version of something that worked before. That's not remaking, that's regurgitating. Zombie is actually going to(or at least it seems he's trying to) give us something new. I'd rather see a completely new vision of Halloween instead of the old Halloween with a better camera and super model cast that's good for nothing but nude shots and screaming.

Might be good..might be bad, only way you're going to know is by watching it not reading what one guy thinks about a script draft.


I see where you're coming from but I am just the biggest halloween obsesed person i know and this has ruined it for me. I understand it's his and not a remake, a reinvention but to use michaels name and loomis's in such a stupid way. Maybe if it was another of his own films and he used different names and such it would be okay but this is michael.

Come on, talking, groping his sister, chasing people down, 6 7", masturbating, giving him a reason to be evil. It just isn't michael. It's like jason X. It wouldn't have such a bad feeling if it wasnt jason, if it was someone else. I don't know, it seems like he's just using the names to boost what will be a pointless, wrong, almost plotless story.

[can't get enough gore]

I see where you're coming from but I am just the biggest halloween obsesed person i know and this has ruined it for me. I understand it's his and not a remake, a reinvention but to use michaels name and loomis's in such a stupid way. Maybe if it was another of his own films and he used different names and such it would be okay but this is michael.

Come on, talking, groping his sister, chasing people down, 6 7", masturbating, giving him a reason to be evil. It just isn't michael. It's like jason X. It wouldn't have such a bad feeling if it wasnt jason, if it was someone else. I don't know, it seems like he's just using the names to boost what will be a pointless, wrong, almost plotless story.

agreed 100% micheal never was like this....mikey was more like 6 3" and he never talked...and to what shadow said halloween never was a bloodbath movie it was just scary

[ferretchucker]

the bit that got me angry was that he's making him run! What fucked up twat would make michael audrey myers run?! Stupid mofo.

[can't get enough gore]

the bit that got me angry was that he's making him run! What fucked up twat would make michael audrey myers run?! Stupid mofo.

hold the fuck up!!!! they are making him run???? i never heard about that....thats like when dawn of the dead(original) had slow zombies and the remake ruined it by making them run???? wow this movie scares me

[ferretchucker]

he talks, he changes his mask to show his emotions, laurie isnt introduced until parge 69 and loomis is weak and annoying. Oh and like i said, he chases people down (running)

[halloweenfreak1]

I don't see what the problem is, he's making it the way he wants to make it which is what a remake is supposed to be. The director takes the base of the story and does it his way.

Most remakes are just cashing in by making a modern, watered down version of something that worked before. That's not remaking, that's regurgitating. Zombie is actually going to(or at least it seems he's trying to) give us something new. I'd rather see a completely new vision of Halloween instead of the old Halloween with a better camera and super model cast that's good for nothing but nude shots and screaming.

Might be good..might be bad, only way you're going to know is by watching it not reading what one guy thinks about a script draft.

i agree, i dont like the idea but its how all remakes are. Zombie said it was going to be different, he said it wasnt going to be all the same, so if this is true everyone will have to deal with it because rob zombie isnt going to change his script.

[halloweenfreak1]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31221

this link will take you to an artical that is about the remake of the legendary halloween movie. it tells you how this movie is going to suck! Now i was looking forward to this movie untill i saw this artical but unlike many others i am not goin to bitch about it. but i would like other peoples take on how this early draft changed their veiw on rob zombie and the halloween remake.

[can't get enough gore]

there is already a thread on this..talking about a shitty movie is getting boring

[can't get enough gore]

he talks, he changes his mask to show his emotions, laurie isnt introduced until parge 69 and loomis is weak and annoying. Oh and like i said, he chases people down (running)

ok stop telling me all these things that ruin this movie it makes me sad:(

[can't get enough gore]

i agree, i dont like the idea but its how all remakes are. Zombie said it was going to be different, he said it wasnt going to be all the same, so if this is true everyone will have to deal with it because rob zombie isnt going to change his script.

ya but all the changes are terrible i would love to hear what someone thinks the movie should be like but zombie's ideas are out there!!! changing his masks???? thats what leatherface does not micheal myers

[Master]

I've already replied in the other thread, but I pretty much felt from the beginning that Zombie was going to fuck this one up. House of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects were both entertaining, sure, but I just think that Zombie is the worst pick to do the Halloween remake. His dialogue is atrocious and his style doesn't fit what I want to see in a Halloween remake.

I'm kind of cringing waiting to see what happens with this one. I'm expecting something along the lines of the following:

Michael Myers (to slutty teenager #1): "You stupid fucking bitch! Now let me see them fucking titties before I fuck you the fuck up!"

[Master]

I've already replied in the other thread, but I pretty much felt from the beginning that Zombie was going to fuck this one up. House of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects were both entertaining, sure, but I just think that Zombie is the worst pick to do the Halloween remake. His dialogue is atrocious and his style doesn't fit what I want to see in a Halloween remake.

I'm kind of cringing waiting to see what happens with this one. I'm expecting something along the lines of the following:

Michael Myers (to slutty teenager #1): "You stupid fucking bitch! Now let me see them fucking titties before I fuck you the fuck up!"


Michael's mom is a stripper and he has a character in the movie named "Big Joe Grizzeley"...lol.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

he talks, he changes his mask to show his emotions, laurie isnt introduced until parge 69 and loomis is weak and annoying. Oh and like i said, he chases people down (running)

I think it's good that he's changing him... Michael Myers was just a second rate Jason in the halloween movies.

Mute emotionless killer with a mask. He doesn't chase people, he walks as his victims run for a minute and then he just shows up besides them... Uses a big ol knife to kill people, so what's the difference? I think making Michael Myers less supernatural is a good idea, he's supposed to be just a psycho anyway.

[halloweenfreak1]

what the fuck happened to my fucking thread?

[zwoti]

what the fuck happened to my fucking thread?

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[halloweenfreak1]

http://www.abisource.com/mailinglists/abiword-dev/02/Sep/att-0073/01-merge.jpg

oh.....................well fuck u guys! ( :

[ferretchucker]

I think it's good that he's changing him... Michael Myers was just a second rate Jason in the halloween movies.

Mute emotionless killer with a mask. He doesn't chase people, he walks as his victims run for a minute and then he just shows up besides them... Uses a big ol knife to kill people, so what's the difference? I think making Michael Myers less supernatural is a good idea, he's supposed to be just a psycho anyway.

let me correct you, jason was a michael who they took to the next level. Michael came first.

Also, i have said this before, I'm okay with changes but these changes are too big for me, they ruin the essence that is michael myers. Sure, he isn't gonna change it to what we want just to make us happy, sure, it's his own one, but you do see what will happen.

In ten years when people who are toddlers and young children now first discover RZ halloween, they will just think it's the real one and the early one was a shitty piece of bull crap. Alot like how people of my age (excluding me) regard films such as king kong and the blob. I just wish he would change the names and likenesses.

Let me put it this way. Many of you are ash fans. Well imagine some rock star came along and made their own evil dead where ash was a 6ft 5 body builder who had magical powers and the zombies were fifty feet high. That's what it's like for me thinking about RZH.

[Despare]

You're not giving people enough credit. Just because I was born in 80 doesn't mean that I think The Fly or The Thing were the original movies. I've seen the originals and the remakes and I'm sure with Halloween people will seek out the original still. When The Fly remake comes out (production is supposed to start in 08) do you think both previous films will be "ruined"? If you don't want to watch it just pop in the original and be happy with what you have. I on the other hand will watch the new one and be looking for a concept that sets it apart from the original other than more gore/different actors.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

let me correct you, jason was a michael who they took to the next level. Michael came first.

Also, i have said this before, I'm okay with changes but these changes are too big for me, they ruin the essence that is michael myers. Sure, he isn't gonna change it to what we want just to make us happy, sure, it's his own one, but you do see what will happen.


I didn't think about that because Jason is more popular. I guess I agree with you, but I really don't see it changing how people think of Michael Myers. Did 28 days later change how anyone thought of Zombies?

[ferretchucker]

despare, im talking about people born in the early nineties like me, when i talk about michael myers nearly all of my friends either say "who?" or bring up shrek. Whereas the fly, i didnt like the second one and i think the new one will be good.

[Despare]

despare, im talking about people born in the early nineties like me, when i talk about michael myers nearly all of my friends either say "who?" or bring up shrek. Whereas the fly, i didnt like the second one and i think the new one will be good.

But you knew there was an original. You didn't like Cronenberg's but you have high hopes for the new one based on... what exactly? Who cares if people confuse the name of the movie character with the name of a real person (a real famous person at that)? If there was a killer in a movie named Johnny Travolta and you mentioned that name I would assume you meant John Travolta. Now, if you say something about Michael Myers killing people and your friends are still confused then I guess you need smarter friends.

[The_Return]

But you knew there was an original. You didn't like Cronenberg's but you have high hopes for the new one based on... what exactly? Who cares if people confuse the name of the movie character with the name of a real person (a real famous person at that)? If there was a killer in a movie named Johnny Travolta and you mentioned that name I would assume you meant John Travolta. Now, if you say something about Michael Myers killing people and your friends are still confused then I guess you need smarter friends.

You're showing your age Despare.

I hate to say it, but Ferret is right: Our generation is movie retarded.

[Despare]

You're showing your age Despare.

I hate to say it, but Ferret is right: Our generation is movie retarded.

The people who care will always dig deep, I've watched movies from before my grandparents were born, unfortuanatly it just takes some growing up before people realise that.

[The_Return]

The people who care will always dig deep, I've watched movies from before my grandparents were born, unfortuanatly it just takes some growing up before people realise that.

Thats the thing though: Nobody cares anymore.

[ferretchucker]

i only found out about halloween through my oldest sister. I wouldn't be writing this thread if it wasnt for someone from the eighties. And yes, when i explain to them which michael myers i mean, they still don't know who it is. Some of my friends know because i spend hours on end explaining the films to them.

[can't get enough gore]

I think it's good that he's changing him... Michael Myers was just a second rate Jason in the halloween movies.

Mute emotionless killer with a mask. He doesn't chase people, he walks as his victims run for a minute and then he just shows up besides them... Uses a big ol knife to kill people, so what's the difference? I think making Michael Myers less supernatural is a good idea, he's supposed to be just a psycho anyway.

A: they always said "he was the boogeyman" so he is a supernatural force.....

B: he never was a psycho when he was a child his babysitter was in a cult and brainwashed him into thinking he would save the world from some kind of turmoil if he killed his family....so he never was born a psycho...

maybe you should do some research:D

C: micheal knows how to catch people thats why he always appears near them...all serial killers in horror movies do that....

D:didnt halloween come out before F13????

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

A: they always said "he was the boogeyman" so he is a supernatural force.....

B: he never was a psycho when he was a child his babysitter was in a cult and brainwashed him into thinking he would save the world from some kind of turmoil if he killed his family....so he never was born a psycho...

ummm he's a psycho

I don't do research on movies, I just watch them.

[joshaube]

A: they always said "he was the boogeyman" so he is a supernatural force.....

B: he never was a psycho when he was a child his babysitter was in a cult and brainwashed him into thinking he would save the world from some kind of turmoil if he killed his family....so he never was born a psycho...

maybe you should do some research

C: micheal knows how to catch people thats why he always appears near them...all serial killers in horror movies do that....

D:didnt halloween come out before F13????

A: Ted Bundy could be referred to as a Boogeyman, that doesn't mean he has supernatural powers.

B: When was this information mentioned? o_O

C: Just because you know how to catch people, doesn't mean you can instantaneously transport around on your free will. There are situations in the Halloween movies in which a catch scene has no possible way of explaining itself. ie -> not possible.

D: Yes it did. Friday the 13th was admitted to be a quick film to cash in on Halloween's sucesses. Therefore, F13 is the copy of Halloween - not vice versa.

[can't get enough gore]

ummm he's a psycho

I don't do research on movies, I just watch them.

ahhh no wonder....its okay...just check www.wikipedia.org it will give you all the info ya need...and yes he is a psycho but he was brainwashed into it....but for all of our sakes DO SOME RESEARCH!!!!!!!

[joshaube]

Researched the whole cult aspect revealed in the SIXTH film (ha). This is the 6th film. The sixth. In a franchise used to rake in the cash. John Carpenter was not at all involved with this production; writting, directing, anything. I'm not sure if such a researcher of film as yourself is aware... but when a film turns into a franchise and the original creator drops out... the story is taken on by independant writers who give the film their own twists. The fact that Michael was "chosen by a cult" in the sixth has nothing to do with the original; you CANNOT say that John Carpenter intended from the start to have Michael be in a cult. He very well could have deemed him as he was presented in HIS VERSION (ie. THE ORIGINAL)... as a confused child with a knife.

[can't get enough gore]

Researched the whole cult aspect revealed in the SIXTH film (ha). This is the 6th film. The sixth. In a franchise used to rake in the cash. John Carpenter was not at all involved with this production; writting, directing, anything. I'm not sure if such a researcher of film as yourself is aware... but when a film turns into a franchise and the original creator drops out... the story is taken on by independant writers who give the film their own twists. The fact that Michael was "chosen by a cult" in the sixth has nothing to do with the original; you CANNOT say that John Carpenter intended from the start to have Michael be in a cult. He very well could have deemed him as he was presented in HIS VERSION (ie. THE ORIGINAL)... as a confused child with a knife.

ooooo you got me there:cool:

[Despare]

Thats the thing though: Nobody cares anymore.

They will in time...

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

ahhh no wonder....its okay...just check www.wikipedia.org it will give you all the info ya need...and yes he is a psycho but he was brainwashed into it....but for all of our sakes DO SOME RESEARCH!!!!!!!

such a child :rolleyes:

I can't deal with a little billy badass 14 year old right now, sorry.

[can't get enough gore]

such a child :rolleyes:

hey i thought i was the one in these forums who was the official smart ass!!!!!:D

[can't get enough gore]

such a child :rolleyes:

I can't deal with a little billy badass 14 year old right now, sorry.

thats 13 get it straight dumb ass !!!!!!

[Horror1979]

This one is strange. Especially the storylines about beating off to pictures and the sounds of dead animals.

[can't get enough gore]

whats with the fucking attitude ?

mom take you off the tit too soon ?

(yesterday ? )

fuck you....evryone thinks i am trying to be a badass but i just give my opinion and you guys pissed me off.."billy badass" thats not like me and i wish you wouldnt expect that everyone my age has something to prove...i am just a normal person...and that comment was crossing the line...actually i was just PM'ed saying that i am un civil so i guess i will have to try harder to be a nice guy...you guys are great i hope we can be friends but lets just drop the arguing????

[can't get enough gore]

i all i want is to not be treated like a child even though i am...in return i will stop being....

a.....dickhead,jackass,dumbass.............ok!!!!

i wont stop the smartass:D :D :D

[can't get enough gore]

if you dont want to be treated like a child - stop acting like one .. you've had an attitude since you first started.

sorry about that

[can't get enough gore]

no prob ... fresh start

exactly....alright thanks i gotta go i will mos def be back around 6:00 EST

[ferretchucker]

gore, i like you because you keep to your opinions, you are only one year younger than me and you love haloween.

As for the h6 stuff, yes, that was the franchise stuff but i researched john carpenters reason for michael. It was to do with his nanna who was like him and neglectful parents. He was as shocked as we were when he killed judith and that is why he never talks.

[Despare]

Bah. Don't judge a movie until you watch it, bottom line. You can say it probably will suck, or you think it will suck, but you can't say Zombie ruined it or that it's a bad movie yet.

[can't get enough gore]

gore, i like you because you keep to your opinions, you are only one year younger than me and you love haloween.

As for the h6 stuff, yes, that was the franchise stuff but i researched john carpenters reason for michael. It was to do with his nanna who was like him and neglectful parents. He was as shocked as we were when he killed judith and that is why he never talks.

thanks;) its not just halloween i love its horror movies in general....my parents and my sister just sit there and try to listen when i try to tell them about a certain aspect of TCM,halloween etc. kinda like your friends....and despare is right....we havent seen it yet but i just care for a great horror series and would hate to see us horror fans get tricked into another shit remake it would make me cry:( i always keep to my opinions...when i think something is right i push it...like i think that zombie is a shitty director:D

[DP McCoy]

Bah. Don't judge a movie until you watch it, bottom line. You can say it probably will suck, or you think it will suck, but you can't say Zombie ruined it or that it's a bad movie yet.

This is true,however the problem for me is that Halloween is almost perfection,which would be difficult to improve upon for any director let alone Mr Zombie whose Movies so far have been o.k but have not suggested he possesses the talent to improve one of the great horror movies.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating though, so grab a spoon!

[Despare]

It's a great movie but honestly, it's far from perfect. There can't be a perfect film in my opinion, a perfect film would eliminate the need for any other movies in that, or any other genre.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Sorry, but even John Carpenter would laugh pretty hard if you called Halloween almost perfection. He didn't even want to direct the second one even though he wrote it.

I liked it, probably my favorite slasher movie. Saying it's pretty much impossible to improve upon is just a little too much.

Can you explain why Halloween is "almost perfection" with actual reasons?


also: no resorting to stupidity/name calling please

[DP McCoy]

Well thats how i feel,of course everyone has their own opinion,but i do believe without Halloween the horror landscape would be a rather different one to the one we have today. I stand by what i said about perfection because i have yet to see a more effective slasher.And as for Carpenter, Well he has made more poor career choices than good ones imo.Did i just get my first flaming?

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Well thats how i feel,of course everyone has their own opinion,but i do believe without Halloween the horror landscape would be a rather different one to the one we have today. I stand by what i said about perfection because i have yet to see a more effective slasher.And as for Carpenter, Well he has made more poor career choices than good ones imo.Did i just get my first flaming?

no, it wasn't flaming. :) Most people here think Halloween is one of the best movies ever too.

You feel that it's almost perfection? not an actual reason for it being almost perfection.

You've never seen a more effective slasher? still not an actual reason for it being almost perfection.

I'll rephrase my question:

What makes Halloween so great that it can't be improved upon? I think being a slasher movie already means it could be improved on greatly by being remade without abiding by the rules of the mindless slasher. Which is what I thought Rob Zombie was going to do with his version, not that I think his will be better but I'm hoping it will be different (it seems everyone is angry because it's not going to be the same)

[Despare]

Well thats how i feel,of course everyone has their own opinion,but i do believe without Halloween the horror landscape would be a rather different one to the one we have today. I stand by what i said about perfection because i have yet to see a more effective slasher.And as for Carpenter, Well he has made more poor career choices than good ones imo.Did i just get my first flaming?

I don't think you were flamed, I just think that the validity of you calling Halloween "perfect" was challenged. Maybe you wouldn't remake it because you feel it's perfect but apparently other people believe there's more they can add. I doubt Zombie feels that he's making a "better" movie but I don't think everybody remakes a film thinking it will be better. Sometimes they just want to put their energy and their thoughts into it, not try and improve it.

[paws the great]

no, it wasn't flaming. :) Most people here think Halloween is one of the best movies ever too.

You feel that it's almost perfection? not an actual reason for it being almost perfection.

You've never seen a more effective slasher? still not an actual reason for it being almost perfection.

I'll rephrase my question:

What makes Halloween so great that it can't be improved upon? I think being a slasher movie already means it could be improved on greatly by being remade without abiding by the rules of the mindless slasher. Which is what I thought Rob Zombie was going to do with his version, not that I think his will be better but I'm hoping it will be different (it seems everyone is angry because it's not going to be the same)

I don't think "Halloween" is that great!

When I'm in the mood for a slasher... I need to see the RED STUFF.


Halloween is a bloodless slasher!

[DP McCoy]

:) no, it wasn't flaming. :) Most people here think Halloween is one of the best movies ever too.

You feel that it's almost perfection? not an actual reason for it being almost perfection.

You've never seen a more effective slasher? still not an actual reason for it being almost perfection.

I'll rephrase my question:

What makes Halloween so great that it can't be improved upon? I think being a slasher movie already means it could be improved on greatly by being remade without abiding by the rules of the mindless slasher. Which is what I thought Rob Zombie was going to do with his version, not that I think his will be better but I'm hoping it will be different (it seems everyone is angry because it's not going to be the same)
Blimey your making this tough.:)
Ok didn't say it couldn't be improved upon just difficult.
To me no other movie in the slasher genre has been as effective at creating a truly heavy atmosphere and such knife edge tension.I find Michaels presence more malevolent and purely evil than any other character in the genre.The score is simple yet chilling.It just floats my boat!its just an opinion.
Nice to meet you though.P.S i don't do name calling that would be rude.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

:)
Blimey your making this tough.:)
Ok didn't say it couldn't be improved upon just difficult.
To me no other movie in the slasher genre has been as effective at creating a truly heavy atmosphere and such knife edge tension.I find Michaels presence more malevolent and purely evil than any other character in the genre.The score is simple yet chilling.It just floats my boat!its just an opinion.
Nice to meet you though.P.S i don't do name calling that would be rude.

I agree that no other movie in the slasher genre has been as effective, Michael Myers is my favorite "monster" The Halloween themesong is my favorite horror theme aswell, but.... I wouldn't say it's almost perfection. My thing is, what's the point of a remake if you're going to copy the movie exactly except using new actors who the fans hate anyway because they're not the characters they've come to love. Wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest for Rob Zombie to go ahead and make the movie as different as possible and maybe make a really great movie, instead of a second rate copy of the original?

Besides, even if it is the best movie ever you can take solace in the fact that every single Halloween fan is still going to insist that the original was better. :p

Nice to meet you too. :)

[DP McCoy]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u139/dazpier/animal017.jpg
Well i hope he's got balls this big cos he will need them to pull it off!!!lol

[ferretchucker]

wow, i might a pretty thought provoking thread (for once). Change I can deal with but destruction and rebuilding with only afew of the original building blocks seems a bit too much. There's nothing we cando about it but I personally would sleep better if he either changed the names to make it his own or just didn't make it. Why try and remake a cake if you've already got a perfectly good one that was just right. It seems as though he came up with some ideas, didn't think they'd be recognised so he put those idea onto a great story to boost it. If john caprenter were dead, he'd be turning in his satanic, legendary grave.

[ferretchucker]

check out this best of myers video on my website.

www.ferretchucker.piczo.com

[can't get enough gore]

carpenter would be turning in his grave but we cant fix it...its too late..zombie is making this and we cant stop him..bottom line

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

carpenter would be turning in his grave but we cant fix it...its too late..

john carpenter isn't dead :confused:

and you told me I needed to do research :rolleyes:

[crabapple]

Carpenter is getting his piece of the action too. I'm fairly certain he doesn't mind.

[can't get enough gore]

john carpenter isn't dead :confused:

and you told me I needed to do research :rolleyes:

ferret chucker was the one who told me he was dead!!!!!...i was told that..

[Despare]

ferret chucker was the one who told me he was dead!!!!!...i was told that..

Well, I think we've all learned a leson here today kids. Always believe what other people tell you.

[can't get enough gore]

Well, I think we've all learned a leson here today kids. Always believe what other people tell you.

ohhhh shut up:rolleyes:

[ferretchucker]

If john caprenter were dead, he'd be turning in his satanic, legendary grave.

Look at the first word ;)

[can't get enough gore]

Look at the first word ;)

son of a bitch.....you all got me there:rolleyes: :o

[ferretchucker]

we all make mistakes. I have a teacher who looks like Super Mario and I once called him that.

[can't get enough gore]

we all make mistakes. I have a teacher who looks like Super Mario and I once called him that.

what did he do????

i met a guy who said that he new italian and said "issa me mario!!!!"

[ferretchucker]

He just glared at me. He's quite new.

[can't get enough gore]

He just glared at me. He's quite new.

ahhh the glare sometimes you dont even need to speak to a person just give them the "Evil eye"

[ferretchucker]

so, who's up for being an annoying shit and making a poll to see how many people don't want this to be made and giving it to zombie in the hope that he will not make it?





(P.S - sarcasm is hard to tell from reading so i'll tell you, yes I'm being sarcastic)

[can't get enough gore]

so, who's up for being an annoying shit and making a poll to see how many people don't want this to be made and giving it to zombie in the hope that he will not make it?





(P.S - sarcasm is hard to tell from reading so i'll tell you, yes I'm being sarcastic)

im sure halloweenfreak will take care of it

[crazy raplh]

so, who's up for being an annoying shit and making a poll to see how many people don't want this to be made and giving it to zombie in the hope that he will not make it?





(P.S - sarcasm is hard to tell from reading so i'll tell you, yes I'm being sarcastic)

How old are you?

[can't get enough gore]

How old are you?

i believe 14

[ferretchucker]

ding ding! We have a winner. That's me in my avatar <--. And Halloweenfreak seems to be looking forward to the RZH from what he posted in the "more about halloween" thread.

[crabapple]

You know what? I will see the movie. I have no idea if I'll like it. But I have a strong impression that I'll enjoy it. So yeah, I think it'll be fun to plunk down my ten bucks and see whatever it is they're offering.

I still think it is strange, though, to be watching a horror movie directed by a guy whose last name is "Zombie." But, what the heck.

[can't get enough gore]

ding ding! We have a winner. That's me in my avatar <--. And Halloweenfreak seems to be looking forward to the RZH from what he posted in the "more about halloween" thread.

i got it right did i win a prize????:D :D

[Shady]

If you havn't seen it, here is the theatrical trailer for Rob Zombie's upcoming remake of "Halloween". It looks........different, thats all I have to say.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?theme=minfo&lid=wmv-300-p.1568800-187487,wmv-700-p.1568801-187487,wmv-1000-p.1568802-187487,qtv-100-p.1568795-187487,qtv-300-p.1568796-187487,qtv-700-p.1568797-187487,qtv-1000-p.1568798-187487,wmv-100-p.1568799-187487&id

[Firemedic]

It looks good so far. I like the way Zombie uses the original Myers mask. I hated the others with those cheap imitations. This one looks pretty much exactly like the original. Cant wait to see it

[bloogertag]

I remember hearing that te original mask was made from a william shatner mask. Anyone else hear this?

[Sick_As_Fuck]

I remember hearing that te original mask was made from a william shatner mask. Anyone else hear this?

Yeah, that's true.

I saw the trailer yesterday when I went to see Grindhouse. I'm so looking forward to August 21st.

[Roderick Usher]

the trailer got a rousing chorus of BOOS from the audience at my screening of Grindhouse.

[ferretchucker]

From what I've read of a script, it sounds stupid. Not terrible but not michael either. But this trailer looks...good. Better than I thought. As for loomis, will he have an english accent? Not sure if it's true but I heard that adult michael talks, runs and changes his mask to show his emotions. We just have to hope I suppose. I'm just worried that a lot of people my age will see thi and think it's great because they havent seen or even heard of the original. Like TCM. I know people that didn't know that was a reinvention.

[AmericanManiac]

I had mixed thoughts about it, once I seen the trailer however is leaning me more and more towards to zombie re-inventing one of the greatest legends. It looks really great and i'm looking foward to this, I love the trailer!

[mordrid]

I enjoyed the trailer but I still have my doubts. As good as Zombie's previous films were, we are talking about an icon.

Ferret, while I agree a lot were ignorant about TCM (which is a shame), I highly doubt anyone would not know about Halloween. While I enjoyed the remake of TCM, it was nothing like the original in terms of lasting appeal. I hope this remake has a different effect on me.

[ferretchucker]

I enjoyed the trailer but I still have my doubts. As good as Zombie's previous films were, we are talking about an icon.

Ferret, while I agree a lot were ignorant about TCM (which is a shame), I highly doubt anyone would not know about Halloween. While I enjoyed the remake of TCM, it was nothing like the original in terms of lasting appeal. I hope this remake has a different effect on me.

I love halloween. I'm always going on about it at school. Whenever I do, people have either never heard of it or know only the name because it came out of my mouth. I know very few people my age who have seen it. I often try telling them about Michael myers the mass murderer, then have to stop to explain "No, that's the characters name, Mike myers is an actor who had nothing to do with the film."

[mordrid]

Wow ferret, didn't realize the youth of today was that stupid. I am sorry.

[ferretchucker]

Wow ferret, didn't realize the youth of today was that stupid. I am sorry.

It's dissapointing. It may be just because it's England but here, very few my age have heard of or seen many horror films or any films from the eighties or earlier. If it werent for my stumbling across childs play when I was really young I wouldn't be into horror and if it werent for my mum once having a conversation about halloween to her friend, I may no have even seen it. Because my love of that led me to comingsoon.net which then led me to XtRaVa who told me about hdc. I owe a lot to Halloween.

[AmericanManiac]

I owe a lot to Halloween.

Very good holiday indeed :D

[VampiricClown]

I think the trailer looks good, but if this movie sucks, Rob Zombie will forever be boo'd off of stage by me and a lot of other Halloween fans though.

[Shady]

I think the trailer looks good, but if this movie sucks, Rob Zombie will forever be boo'd off of stage by me and a lot of other Halloween fans though.

I can't necessarily say that because remaking Halloween is a big cup to fill. If Rob Zombie pulls this off he will go down in history in my books. He already surprised the hell outa me with House Of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects. Even if the movie bombs I will still respect him and continue to see his productions.

[adz_gamble]

It dosen't look too bad. I say it would look better if it wasn't a remake! It has that modern horror movie look about it.

Micheal seems to move to fast compared to the originals...makes him less menacing! :eek:

Good thing is that horror movies these days are far more gory!! :D :D :D

CAN'T WAIT!!:cool:

[Rob Bottin]

This one will rock.

It´d be fun to see Rob Zombie do the remake of Friday the 13th.:cool:

[VampiricClown]

I can't necessarily say that because remaking Halloween is a big cup to fill. If Rob Zombie pulls this off he will go down in history in my books. He already surprised the hell outa me with House Of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects. Even if the movie bombs I will still respect him and continue to see his productions.

Halloween is my all-time favorite movie. If he ruins it, I will be royally pissed off. I love Rejects and HO1C, but remaking a true classic is a bit much for anyone.

[alkytrio666]

Well I, for one, think it looks awful. Rediculous. Flat out dumb.

In the trailer...Michael uses a baseball bat. A fucking baseball bat...

...think about that...

[ferretchucker]

Well I, for one, think it looks awful. Rediculous. Flat out dumb.

In the trailer...Michael uses a baseball bat. A fucking baseball bat...

...think about that...

Halloween is my favourite horror film and my 3rd favourite film of all time (No matter how silly it sounds, it's behind Jurrasic park and hocus pocus) and I for one, do NOT agree with Michael using a baseball bat. I didn't notice it before you pointed it out. How can he use a baseball bat?! And when he's a child he looks like a girl.

[AmericanManiac]

Zombie's newest blog:
Rob Zombie is really gearing up for his film as it is slowly coming together. With its debut on August 31st growing closer every passing day he has began to rally the troops. Here is a comment he just left on his official Halloween blog.

"Attention Michael maniacs the time has come!

Here's what I'm thinking on August 31 everyone should show up at their local theatre dressed as Michael Myers. We can do this! We can make this happen!

Imagine the shocked look on everyone's faces when the lobby is jammed with Michael maniacs! Show the world that Michael is back and ready to destroy!

Who's with me?"

So grab those William Shatner masks and get ready to invade a theater near you. I remember back when I went to see H20 in theater there were people all over the parking lot with masks on. It was really something to see. Lets create that same atmosphere.

Edit: Could a Mod please move this to upcoming, please ? Thanks.

[Kane_Hodder]

I just hope it doesn't disappoint and lives up to it's hype. The trailers look awesome and the film should be great.

[can't get enough gore]

Zombie's newest blog:
Rob Zombie is really gearing up for his film as it is slowly coming together. With its debut on August 31st growing closer every passing day he has began to rally the troops. Here is a comment he just left on his official Halloween blog.

"Attention Michael maniacs the time has come!

Here's what I'm thinking on August 31 everyone should show up at their local theatre dressed as Michael Myers. We can do this! We can make this happen!

Imagine the shocked look on everyone's faces when the lobby is jammed with Michael maniacs! Show the world that Michael is back and ready to destroy!

Who's with me?"

So grab those William Shatner masks and get ready to invade a theater near you. I remember back when I went to see H20 in theater there were people all over the parking lot with masks on. It was really something to see. Lets create that same atmosphere.

Edit: Could a Mod please move this to upcoming, please ? Thanks.

I have my costume ready!:)

[ferretchucker]

gore, it thought me and you weren't old enough? That is...if you really are 13! Because it's an 18 film and i'm only 14, i'll just walk around town dressed as myers.

[AmericanManiac]

gore, it thought me and you weren't old enough? That is...if you really are 13! Because it's an 18 film and i'm only 14, i'll just walk around town dressed as myers.

well ifyou are tall enough wear the mask when you buy your ticket ;)

[ferretchucker]

do you reckon 4 ft 9 can pass as 18? I hope so!

[AmericanManiac]

do you reckon 4 ft 9 can pass as 18? I hope so!

Just tell them your a midgit, and you have rights your not taking off that fucking mask. Which may lead to the cops being called, :D

[Zero]

personally, i thought the trailer looked like the kind of silly-editing nonsense that zombie did in House- which give me very little hope for this remake (or re-fake). i will not go see it on opening day unless the advance word is so amazing i cannot resist it.

[AmericanManiac]

personally, i thought the trailer looked like the kind of silly-editing nonsense that zombie did in House- which give me very little hope for this remake (or re-fake). i will not go see it on opening day unless the advance word is so amazing i cannot resist it.

http://www.joshcohen.com/Chimp%20Flipping%20Camera%20Off.jpg

[bwind22]

The jury is still out for me on this one... I could see Zombie totally losing the atmosphere from the first 2 Halloweens and thereby fucking this film up, but I could also see him putting his own super-gory twist on it without losing the atmosphere and fucking things up, so I guess I'll have to wait and see... Probably not dressed as Michael Myers though.




Ferret, are you able to see it with a parent or guardian? If so, then I say you just be a SUPER good kid around the house over the summer (like help out with chores when no one asks you to and do random nice things for your mom or dad, but ask for nothing in return) and then August 30th, when you've killed them with kindness and shown your maturity all summer, ask real nicely if your mom or dad would take you to see this movie that you have been waiting for. In general terms, (without knowing you or your parents at all) I'd say that'd have a pretty decent shot of working.

[novakru]

I am very curious to see what Zombie does with this film.
I think he will kick it up a notch :cool:

[ferretchucker]

sorry bwind but that wouldn't work. In england we have U - Universal, PG - parental guidance (in otherwords you 'can see it but parents may want to consider letting you), 12a - anyone under twelve needs a parent with them,
15 - you must be 15 or over to see it. No exceptions and 18 - same as 15 but have to be 18 instead (go figure)

[the_real_linda]

i saw this on his myspace blog.....thought it was a cool idea.....id love to take my sis but shes 8.....she couldve been a mini michael...and yep its a pain in the uk with the ratings....still dont get why they changed from 12 to 12a......i saw 15s when i was 12 and 18s when i was 16......tho i look really young still for a 19 year old id go with my father.....u pass as an adult so much easier if ur with an adult and u stay in the background


like when final destination came out i was 13...and some kids infront of me who had bought tickets got stopped before going into the screen by the rip-ticket-guy......and they looked older than me (it was only a 15) but i walked straight in cause i was with my father.

[Mictlantechutli]

Who's gonna dress up in a costume to go see a movie? I'm a film nerd, but that's way too geeky for even me. That's just as bad as dressing as a jedi or a fucking hobbit to go to the movies.

I'll be there opening day, and I'll be pointing and laughing at anyone and everyone who does this:D

[the_real_linda]

its such a cool publicity stunt.........but i could never do it.......if it opened on halloween night.........which why dosent it? then itd would work

[AmericanManiac]

Who's gonna dress up in a costume to go see a movie? I'm a film nerd, but that's way too geeky for even me. That's just as bad as dressing as a jedi or a fucking hobbit to go to the movies.

I'll be there opening day, and I'll be pointing and laughing at anyone and everyone who does this:D

thats because your an asshole :D

[Mictlantechutli]

thats because your an asshole :D

a distinct possibility:p

[can't get enough gore]

gore, it thought me and you weren't old enough? That is...if you really are 13! Because it's an 18 film and i'm only 14, i'll just walk around town dressed as myers.

All I have to do is get my cousin to take me(he's 22)

Besides I wouldn't let something like a R rating stop me ;)

[can't get enough gore]

well ifyou are tall enough wear the mask when you buy your ticket ;)

I'm about 5'10"-5'11"

I get tall pretty quickly...besides if I saw micheal myers(even though he is not real) I would just let him through cause I would be scared lol

[can't get enough gore]

thats because your an asshole :D

Burned!!!

Anyway I think it is fun to see whether you can scare a few people...I once chased 15 yr. old girls around my neighborhood with my mikey costume....People are scared too easily

[AmericanManiac]

Burned!!!

Anyway I think it is fun to see whether you can scare a few people...I once chased 15 yr. old girls around my neighborhood with my mikey costume....People are scared too easily

This past halloween I had my freddy mask, hat, sweater, pants and work boots on I stood still on my front pourch and my fiance was in a chair with the candy, little kids wouldn't come up. When they finally started in I stepped forward and sent them off running, :p

@Mictlantechutli Your right I would do it if I seen starwar freaks oops..... I mean geaks :p

[can't get enough gore]

This past halloween I had my freddy mask, hat, sweater, pants and work boots on I stood still on my front pourch and my fiance was in a chair with the candy, little kids wouldn't come up. When they finally started in I stepped forward and sent them off running, :p

@Mictlantechutli Your right I would do it if I seen starwar freaks oops..... I mean geaks :p

I walked up to a house to get candy(BTW what is this bullshit about you are too old to get candy..luckily my parents never told me that)and the woman opened the door and there was this 3 year old, he started crying when he saw me:p.

I had a friend who knew it was me under that mask but he was still scared shitless:)

[ferretchucker]

My oldest sis saw Halloween ressurection with her bf in America and she said these guys came intogether but one sat in the row infront. She thought this was weird but ignored it. Halfway through, a woman screamed and my sister turned. One of the guys had got up wearing a myers costume, the other started playing the theme on his mini tape player and the guy in the costume had one of those knives that goes into the handle and was stabbing the other guy who had let off a blood pouch. He pretended to be dead and the michael guy walked out to thundering appluase. I wish I was there!

[can't get enough gore]

My oldest sis saw Halloween ressurection with her bf in America and she said these guys came intogether but one sat in the row infront. She thought this was weird but ignored it. Halfway through, a woman screamed and my sister turned. One of the guys had got up wearing a myers costume, the other started playing the theme on his mini tape player and the guy in the costume had one of those knives that goes into the handle and was stabbing the other guy who had let off a blood pouch. He pretended to be dead and the michael guy walked out to thundering appluase. I wish I was there!

sounds cool

[_____V_____]

Yes I have seen it last night. Dont ask how and where...

And many of you might be queueing in front of your local theaters in a couple days time...so I wont spoil it for you. Its fairly obvious to assume that Zombie's earlier offerings will have an effect on the remake...and thats how it is. Its like watching The Devil's Rejects, with Michael's storyline thrown in. The script and dialogues are virtually the same...and that is not the only downer for Zombie's offering.

There's almost no suspense or foreboding...Michael is basically a terminator-esque unstoppable killing machine...the body count is very high...and the background built up by Zombie for Michael is...a huge letdown. Which brings forth the pretty obvious question (and the casting of Tyler Mane into the limelight) - how could Michael become so big and strong while spending 15 years in a padded up cell?

The movie lacks one big factor the original had - atmosphere. There is NONE of that here. I wont go in any further...most of you will see it and then form your own conclusions...as for me, even when being a huge gorehound...Zombie's Halloween doesnt click it, even with the gracious gore.

Now to catch James Wan's Death Sentence come Friday...

[AmericanManiac]

I'm jealous that you've got to watch it already! I'm looking forward to this film, and thanks for not letting any spoilers ruin it for us!

[illdojo]

I've got sneak preview passes for Thursday night.
___V___, I hope our opinions differ, but you're usually spot on. ;)
What a bummer. I had high hopes for this film. :(

[_____V_____]

I've got sneak preview passes for Thursday night.
___V___, I hope our opinions differ. but you're usually spot on. ;)
What a bummer. I had high hopes for this film. :(

Just watch the first 10 minutes (the family sequences)...and you ll know.;)

[jenna26]

Well, this sucks......pretty much what I was expecting though, to be honest. But we had planned to see this with a few friends while we visiting my family in Georgia next week. The only remake I had planned on spending any money to go see. Pffft......:(

[Kane_Hodder]

This is indeed a bad start. I was expecting so much from this film.
I will give this a viewing though, just for Michael Myers.

[alkytrio666]

I won't be seeing this in theatres, if at all. My predictions were pretty much exactly as V described; I don't need to waste $10 to see them for myself.

[The_Return]

I'm still pumped for in on the basis of "Yeah it'll be 100% different...thats the point. The trailers look badass and Zombie's track record is spot-on so far"

I have faith that it'll still be entertaining. I'm out of town on the 31st, but I'll be seeing it as soon as I get home.

[Despare]

.Which brings forth the pretty obvious question (and the casting of Tyler Mane into the limelight) - how could Michael become so big and strong while spending 15 years in a padded up cell?


Simple, the state requires that he get nutritious food and... uhhhh... lots of pushups.

[Miss Olivia]

Weell.....Robert de Niro did it in Cape Fear;)

[XtRaVa]

I think he's saying because hes always locked in a padded cell, presumebly usually in a straight jacket, there arent many options to work out. Whereas a standard prisoner has his daily exercise, access to weights and a bed to do pull-ups on.

I do think it was quite bizarre casting of Myers. The guy is "supposed" to be average build and about 6ft tall - but I guess the size of the actor isn't really anything to get too worried about, but rather the movie itself.

[missmacabre]

There goes my Saturday night plans. I guess I can go an hope that a bunch of teeny poppers go and their screams can at least make me jump.

[joshaube]

Okay, sorry if this was mentioned before... but...

The illegal version you have watched is the WORKPRINT. It was the version shown to test audiences last fall. As you may know, that showing was reason for the reshoots. The film shown in theatres will be entirely reconstructed and feature many reshots - including a new ending.

Word of mouth; workprint = let down. theatrical = highly improved.

[_____V_____]

Okay, sorry if this was mentioned before... but...

The illegal version you have watched is the WORKPRINT. It was the version shown to test audiences last fall. As you may know, that showing was reason for the reshoots. The film shown in theatres will be entirely reconstructed and feature many reshots - including a new ending.

Word of mouth; workprint = let down. theatrical = highly improved.

I know it is the workprint. And it was shown in April, not last fall.

Quite frankly, the only difference between this one and the final theatrical version is...number of deaths have been increased (6 extra gory deaths), and a new ending which is more faithful to the original. Other than that, the whole movie stays basically the SAME, with one or two cuts here and there.


About this copy verses the theater copy...

Theater copy has :- 6 more death scenes. A different more gruesome death scene, some additional sanitarium scenes and an alternate ending (similar to original).

This workprint copy has :- Many nude scenes that were erased in the final cut as well as a very graphic rape scene. It was toned down to get an R rating.


I dont wanna spoil it just yet...just watch it in a couple days time. And tell me how YOU like it.;)

[roshiq]

then they need to change the tagline: "Let's ruin...the Hallloween!":mad:

[the_real_linda]

I know it is the workprint. And it was shown in April, not last fall.

Quite frankly, the only difference between this one and the final theatrical version is...number of deaths have been increased (6 extra gory deaths), and a new ending which is more faithful to the original. Other than that, the whole movie stays basically the SAME, with one or two cuts here and there.


About this copy verses the theater copy...

Theater copy has :- 6 more death scenes. A different more gruesome death scene, some additional sanitarium scenes and an alternate ending (similar to original).

This workprint copy has :- Many nude scenes that were erased in the final cut as well as a very graphic rape scene. It was toned down to get an R rating.


I dont wanna spoil it just yet...just watch it in a couple days time. And tell me how YOU like it.;)

exactly.... the stuff they cut out for theatrical release will pop up in a directors dvd sometime along the way

[Dante'sInferno]

Well I won't be seeing Halloween this friday.

[the_real_linda]

it would have been nice to have a double bill of halloween and saw 4 shown on halloween night

[_____V_____]

exactly.... the stuff they cut out for theatrical release will pop up in a directors dvd sometime along the way

The director's cut DVD will have all of both...I am quite sure of that.

it would have been nice to have a double bill of halloween and saw 4 shown on halloween night

It would have been possible, but studios would want to get the biggest pie out of the audience's pockets by releasing them separately.

I can safely predict from now that Saw IV will do much better than Zombie's Halloween. Mark my words.

[Doc Faustus]

I'll be there at 12:01 tonight and back here tomorrow with my thoughts. I'll kind of miss Michael as the Shape, but I think it won't be so bad.

[Unaboner3000]

I'll take V's word for it, that this movie blows.

If so, then that is "three strikes and your out" for Mr. Zombie.

[LoudLon]

I got to see a sneak peek of it Wednesday night courtesy of a friend of a friend who manages a local cinema. Sure, not as great as the original (natch') but I'll be damned if I didn't enjoy it.

The first ten minutes, as stated, don't give much hope...but once it gets into the territory of young Michael and his new shrink (played expertly by Malcolm McDowell) it gets better.

It's definitely a Rob Zombie flick; he went out of his way to make it his own. I won't go into details since no one's seen it yet and I don't want to ruin it with spoilers...but I think Zombie overall did a good job with it. It's quite chilling in parts, and though I was sure the "backstory" would be empty and hokey, I was surprised with how deep Zombie went with it.

Is it great? No. Is it much better than I'd expected? Yep. It'll definitely be a love it or hate it kind of flick. Me, I find myself siding with it. Can't hold a candle to the original (as most remakes) but like the Dawn remake, much better than I would have ever expected.

[Dante'sInferno]

I changed my mind.I'll see this moive today.Out of boredem.

[AmericanManiac]

I'm stuck at work and my show starts at 10:30 tonight, have to wait for some friends to come in from outta town. I can't wait too see this film!!!! :eek: :eek:

[illdojo]

8/10 Yeah, it's that good.
I saw a sneak preview last night. Of course it doesnt compare to the original, but Zombie did a great job. I liked it a lot. The acting was stellar.
A tip of the hat to Scout Taylor-Compton and Malcolm McDowell they owned their roles.
I'm glad it wasn't a duplicate of the original.

[Shady]

I saw the midnight showing last night and I've never been so disappointed in my life. Being a Halloween fan all my life I can't even begin to tell you how bad I was awaiting this movie. Walking into this movie I had high expecations due to the fact that Rob Zombie did a fantastic job on House Of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects. I thought for sure Zombie was going to make this a remake to remember and oh how I was wrong.

I didn't even feel like I was watching Halloween because it was so different than the original in a bad way. The music, which was always the main factor in Halloween was played at the wrong times and didn't fit the scene whatsoever. It almost seemed as though there was no plot and just random killings. I was in awe as the credits rolled completely speechless. As everyone got out of there seat I couldn't even move because I was completely shocked at how terrible this was. The only thing that was decent was the acting.

[_____V_____]

^^^ There you have it, folks. 2 completely different reactions after watching.

Watch it and judge for yourself. I can only vouch for those who have the same tastes as me...that you will be bitterly disappointed.

As for the others (and the die-hard Rob Zombie fans)...to each their own.



EDIT : In response to this...

I'm glad it wasn't a duplicate of the original.

Hold a sec there...not a duplicate?

Zombie tried to make a mixed dish of half-prequel and half-remake. Very "original" indeed? The screenplay and direction SUCKED...

Enough said.

[Doc Faustus]

My lowdown: 7 out of 10
Pros: Exposition- Not just obtrusive exposition, but exposition that has some good acting, some shocking scenes and some visuals that are hard to forget. I think Sheri Moon proves her mettle as an actress with her role as Michael's mother. Capturing the totemic cultural fixation on the mask is also a plus.
Malcolm Mc Dowell- Not Donald Pleasence, but capable, flawed and even more out of his element than the original Loomis. Loomis is no action hero. He's a doctor who has bitten off more than he can chew, and this Loomis personifies that quite ably.
Better teenagers-In the original Jamie Lee looks like she could use a little Prozac in her coffee. She's a sad caricature who cadaverously shuffles through her day. Scout Taylor Compton plays a lively, intelligent, three dimensional young woman who elicits plenty of sympathy. Annie and Lynda also benefit from a little more filling out.
Good first and third acts with some bold choices made.
Cons: Overstimulation/amped up gore- It's Rob Zombie and he barely holds back the Zombie touch. It is a loud, gritty, nerve racking film. It could stand to be less so. Zombie tries to transgress where Carpenter tried to impress. This is made for the Red Bull generation and it shows. The original Halloween was a horror movie you could watch on basic cable with a child or younger sibling, but this lacks that potential. Zombie's lack of restraint challenges the movie's chance of being something iconic. Some of these kills just don't need to happen.
Michael's hugeness- Unless Hiroshima has just come your way, huge isn't scary. The decision to remove the mystique of the Shape and replace it with meer hulking size was not that smart of a decision. It marrs certain scenes, but doesn't always get in the way.
Remember that this movie comes as a reboot and a remake and replaced the prospect of a Halloween 9. Zombie didn't have to be better than Carpenter, just better than Halloween 9. And this was better than a Halloween 9 would have been.

[tarcher80]

wow it’s been a while since i posted here - i've been super busy w/ grad school, work, life, etc. still that's no excuse and i don't intend many of you here recognize me, accept for the ones that have been on for awhile.

anyway... was V the only one to view the movie so far? and if so this question is for him.

i've been hearing a lot about this movie from people i know in the industry and the two overall complaints seem to be that one, it lacks the original's suspense and two, in the way zombie displays the myer's back story he draws sympathy towards him and makes him less of the creepy supernatural boogieman that he was in the original. people vilified gus van sant for his "to the tee" remake of psycho b/c he didn't add anything to the original, so i guess my question is that in taking away these two original elements and making it more brutal does zombie ruin the film or just disrespect the original?

[_____V_____]

wow it’s been a while since i posted here - i've been super busy w/ grad school, work, life, etc. still that's no excuse and i don't intend many of you here recognize me, accept for the ones that have been on for awhile.

anyway... was V the only one to view the movie so far? and if so this question is for him.

i've been hearing a lot about this movie from people i know in the industry and the two overall complaints seem to be that one, it lacks the original's suspense and two, in the way zombie displays the myer's back story he draws sympathy towards him and makes him less of the creepy supernatural boogieman that he was in the original. people vilified gus van sant for his "to the tee" remake of psycho b/c he didn't add anything to the original, so i guess my question is that in taking away these two original elements and making it more brutal does zombie ruin the film or just disrespect the original?

Welcome back, T. Yes its been awhile since I saw you here...(last time it was voting in my tournament bout 9-10 months back I think)...

No, I am not the only one who has seen it...as is apparent from the 3 replies above ^^^ - Illdojo, Shady and Doc have seen it too. As regards your double query...

First, there is NONE of the creepiness of the original in this one. The stalking is perennially non-existent, and in the second half of the movie, you can actually count the minutes before a person on-screen would turn up dead. There's not much character development for the supporting cast of Laurie's 2 friends...Annie and Linda...(come to think of it, they share a couple of scenes together before their respective death scenes, which isnt much at all)...and you actually DONT get a chance to feel anythin for em... (**possible spoiler**)its like a moment taken out of Hostel...watch em sizzle the screen for a sec, then a gruesome death the next...and then Loomis finds em...so it goes again...

Its overall a very gory and violent movie...like I said in the first post...think of The Devil's Rejects with a Michael Myers storyline...the buildup to the background of Michael itself has many holes {{**SPOILER** 1) He is shown killing his pet in the very first frame, yet Zombie explores the "why" part of it which is totally unnecessary IMO, and 2) He kills everyone of his family on Halloween except his baby sister (whom he loves?!) yet goes after her in the climax?}}

If you ask me, Zombie himself seemed puzzled about how to develop this remake. Its like a series of disjointed sequences (at least after the first 30 minutes or so) and I thought it was a tad too lengthy. Even during the climactic scenes there is no feeling of dread or foreboding (which was so chillingly apparent in JC's original), and Tyler Mane's huge bulky existence "nullifies" much of the suspense factor (oddly, when it should have added to it).

About your second query, I watched Zombie's take with a totally open mind (forgetting that JC's original and its sequels ever existed), and Zombie's Halloween comes across as a violent slasher MINUS the atmosphere. Period. Its fierce, brutal...it hits your stomach like a series of violent blows, the acting's flawless and taut...and the script's pacy. BUT where this one fails...is the EFFECT. You d feel like coming out after watching Rambo in a slasher...thats what this one is. The deaths look ultra-realistic, and some of the effects done in em are visually stunning. Those are the only two redeemingly good qualities of this one - acting and gore effects.

And yes, the background does make you feel a bit sympathetic towards Michael (just like the feeling The Devil's Rejects left you with), BUT, pardoning the pun...if all kids with similar backgrounds went on to become Michael Myers' we would have ended World War XX by now.

Zombie has TRIED to make this one "his own", but in doing so...he has tarnished himself...because JC's masterpiece still stands tall on its pedestal, still the superior movie by all counts. It cannot be disrespected (heck 6 weaker sequels couldnt do it) and Zombie sure as hell hasnt ruined it...he has only ruined himself and his image as a movie-maker.

I just hope that fans of the original forgive him...and give him another chance for his next one...

[illdojo]

Hold a sec there...not a duplicate?

Zombie tried to make a mixed dish of half-prequel and half-remake. Very "original" indeed? The screenplay and direction SUCKED...

Enough said.

Damn Bro, OUCH!!!!! :D
I still loved it. :p Compared to every sequel with the exception of Part 2(a continuation of pt. 1). It is now my 3rd favorite in the franchise. I guess I just like Zombie's films.

My breakdown of the franchise:

1) The Original....Duh
2) Part 2
3) Zombie's version
4) Part 6 "The Curse of MM"
5) Part 4 "The Return of MM"
6) Part 5 "The Revenge of MM"
7) H20
8) Part 3 "Season of the Witch"
9) Resurrection

[AmericanManiac]

I justy got back from the theater, never have I waited in such a long line to be seated. To me it lived up to my expectations, Zombie has amazed me once again.
(Reading from here on may contain spoilers, please read at your own risk)









The story to little Michael, does make you feel sympathetic for him, that until his first vicitim, after that he is one twisted little fuck. When Michael firsts puts on the mask as a child, there was nothing freaker than that! I don't know what it is but something about a 7 ft tall, 300lb killer in a movie freaks me out.

Like V has stated, the kills are very realistic, and imo Zombie did a good job with the atmosphere. He made Michael creepier than ever before, the acting top notch. The dialogue was present day, and the teenagers even acted as they should, not like in the JC's, they weren't respectful, or proper. Rob did an amazing job with adapting today morals and standards. I know some of you have seen the test screener, and I heard you guys mention a rape scene. If you could PM me and tell me who does the raping and to what girl, the only one I could think of while watching was Annie. Or did the completely cut the girl out as well?? IMO this is one you must give it a watch!

Please highlight the empty space as I didn't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it.

[chaibill]

i saw the trailer ...how do they explain Micheal breaking those 3/8 inch chains in that scene with the guards just looks stupid

[newb]

My local papre gave it 4 out of 5 stars. My son went to a midnight showing last night........i'l have to wait until he gets up to get the low-down.

[PhilnEdee]

Edee and I caught the 10:30pm show last night...I have to say it is good but I was a little dissappointed...using every actor (I mean EVERYactor) that was in House of 1000 and Devile Rej...kind of silly...the look into the young Michael wasnot what I expected...not so much an evil force...just a really whacekd out kid who grows into a really whacked out individual...but...it was entertaining, it was well shot, the sound effects were top notch... so 3.5 out of 5 stars here.

[ferretchucker]

Possible Spoiler warning.

(Highlight)

I was told that Michael talks, runs and changes his mask to show his mood as well as groping his sister before killing her. Please tell me this isn't true. I was also told he masturbates over recordings of dying animals.

[Doc Faustus]

Ferretchucker:
Not completely. Yes, the Shape is not the only mask used, but he doesn't change masks all the time and the Shape occurs through most of the movie. The "groping" isn't entirely a groping or a rape. Remember that this is about a developing psychopath. If you keep in mind that it is about the genesis of a psychopath, the dysfunction is not as obtrusive. At least Zombie didn't go with the Gacy childhood

[slasherman]

this movie proves the reason why I havent watched any Rob Zombie movies...whats the redneck/white trash fasination all about....didnt fit at all in this movie.. 3/10 ...this should never been a Halloween movie

[missmacabre]

I didn't really like it. There were only really 2 parts that made me jump, the latter one causing me to hit my self in the jaw and bite my lip pretty hard. Other than that I was completely unimpressed. Zombie's choice to recycle the Devil's Rejects actors was a bad move in my opinion and he didn't stop there. He also reused a lot of the camera angles and techniques that made House of 1000 corpses and devil's Rejects so eerie. Also the whole "if you have sex you will die" stereotype is so overused.

What I realllllly didn't like though, was giving Michael a face. It made me sympathize and, in turn, like the movie a whooolllle lot less than I would have if it was a straight up remake rather than a prequel.

[_____V_____]

From Variety (www.variety.com) :-

"Rob Zombie's "Halloween" shook up Friday moviegoers with a boffo $10.98 million from 3,472 venues.

The estimate for the MGM distributed Dimension title reps the highest Friday ever for a Labor Day weekend entry or holdover.

The last pic to post a Friday high over the Labor Day frame was 2005's "Transporter 2" which soaked up $5.6 million on its opening day."


Its a commercial success already.

Guess Zombie wont be complaining, after all.:rolleyes:

[ferretchucker]

well, i'll see it but i don't know if i'll like it.

[crabapple]

this movie is a big poop

this movie made poo nuts so I told it to go poo-nuts

I said, "GO AWAY, POO NUTS!"

[Zero]

but should i go see it? i was going to go this afternoon but now i'm not sure. i don' t really want to give money to a poo-nutty film (i'd normally just wait a few weeks until its in the long slide) but i feel almost obliged to see it?

what's my ethical obligation as a horror fan??

[missmacabre]

but should i go see it? i was going to go this afternoon but now i'm not sure. i don' t really want to give money to a poo-nutty film (i'd normally just wait a few weeks until its in the long slide) but i feel almost obliged to see it?

what's my ethical obligation as a horror fan??
I do believe you are obliged. Just like I feel obliged to listen to any Beatles song that is playing just because it's the Beatles. Who knows? You may even like it, just don't punch yourself in the jaw like i did.... on that note, do you think I could sue Rob Zombie for inflicting pain in my lip through a crappy movie.

[crabapple]

If you are really serious, and you really want to know, you'll at least go to see it.

I'll tell ya something though: I walked out, and I got my money back.

[crabapple]

But you may have a problem here. Because I don't think they let little monkeys into the theatre. Not even little monkeys with money.

[missmacabre]

You got your money back? Why didn't I think of that. I spent most of the time walking around the lobby and when I got back to the movie I still knew what was going on.

[the_real_linda]

so im the only one who enjoyed it....???? :confused: :(


oh well hope saw 4 gets a better reception

[AmericanManiac]

so im the only one who enjoyed it....???? :confused: :(


oh well hope saw 4 gets a better reception

I enjoyed it, he could of done a better job, But I really enjoyed it just because it Michael!

[VampiricClown]

This movie is not going to please fans of the original Halloween, but if you go into it and not look at it like a film of the series and not expect much, you may just enjoy it. As much as I love the original, this one is OK. It's not great, but it's there, so do yourself a favor, stop wondering about it and just go see it. It's not THAT bad.

Disappointing? Yes.
Terrible? No.

[VampiricClown]

Review in my thread. It contains spoilers, so be warned.

[illdojo]

:eek: The film grossed $31 million opening weekend.....http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117971227.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

[wowwawewa]

I enjoyed it very much and I am a huge fan of the original! I think Zombie made it his and made it kick ass.

http://logo.cafepress.com/3/142414.3564333.JPG (http://www.flippinsweetgear.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi/halloween_michael_myers_tshirts)

[crabapple]

You're selling a lot of Halloween there, I notice. Could it be you have a vested interest in this remake going over well?

[VampiricClown]

You're selling a lot of Halloween there, I notice. Could it be you have a vested interest in this remake going over well?

I noticed that too....Hmmmm....

[the_real_linda]

:eek: The film grossed $31 million opening weekend.....http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117971227.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

i read $26 million

[the_real_linda]

sorry that was last night....... now i read $31 on comingsoon.net

[JokerMONEY3000]

i didn't read any of this thread, just the title -first off

how can you say that it dissapointed. I thought that this film lived completly up to the original., without copying it. It stood on its own. Rob Zombie's genius, it was a great film. And the only film since the original Halloween that I actually got scared watching. Amazing job, wow can't say enough about it, absolutely amazing film

[the_real_linda]

i didn't read any of this thread, just the title -first off

how can you say that it dissapointed. I thought that this film lived completly up to the original., without copying it. It stood on its own. Rob Zombie's genius, it was a great film. And the only film since the original Halloween that I actually got scared watching. Amazing job, wow can't say enough about it, absolutely amazing film

guess im not the only one then :D

[missmacabre]

i didn't read any of this thread, just the title -first off

how can you say that it dissapointed. I thought that this film lived completly up to the original., without copying it. It stood on its own. Rob Zombie's genius, it was a great film. And the only film since the original Halloween that I actually got scared watching. Amazing job, wow can't say enough about it, absolutely amazing film

Well perhaps if you read the rest of the thread you would understand why some of us were dissapointed.

[wufongtan.]

[QUOTE=_____V_____;623886]There's almost no suspense or foreboding...Michael is basically a terminator-esque unstoppable killing machine...the body count is very high...
The movie lacks one big factor the original had - atmosphere. There is NONE of that here. QUOTE]
Thats because the original was made by movie makers who knew how to make a horror movie. Today a horror movie just means lots of killing.

[VampiricClown]

Well perhaps if you read the rest of the thread you would understand why some of us were dissapointed.

Indeed. Don't come to conclusions without reading what we are discussing.

[swiss tony]

strange. one guy says he didn't like it and the rest cancel seeing it on the basis of his, albeit well respected, opinion. i say go watch and make up your own mind.

[HappyCamper]

Awww man!! I was really looking forward to going to see this film, maybe now i'll hold off... or and 'Death Sentence' it was ok...it was entertaining...but i wouldn't go see it again or buy a copy of it when it comes out on dvd.

[_____V_____]

strange. one guy says he didn't like it and the rest cancel seeing it on the basis of his, albeit well respected, opinion. i say go watch and make up your own mind.

Count the number of times I have said that myself in this very thread...

I wont go in any further...most of you will see it and then form your own conclusions

just watch it in a couple days time. And tell me how YOU like it.

Watch it and judge for yourself. I can only vouch for those who have the same tastes as me...that you will be bitterly disappointed.

As for the others (and the die-hard Rob Zombie fans)...to each their own.

Others HAVE watched it and many have LOVED it. So do go and watch it...and then form your own conclusions, like tony said.

[VampiricClown]

I didn't think it was great, but hey, some people liked it. And come on, if one guys word on if a movie or not is going to make you not want to watch it, you are too easily pushed around. It's his OPINION. It isn't everyones final word.

[crabapple]

I know it is nasty and mean for me to say this, but this is one of those movies that is absolutely banking on people coming to see it out of curiosity--and even, at some point, people coming to see it to learn if all the horrible things they're hearing really are true.

Yes, it makes sense to "go and see it for yourself" and decide for yourself how good you think it is. But it also makes sense to avoid a turkey when you smell one.

I see lots of movies because they look interesting to me. I also DON'T see lots of movies because they DON'T appear interesting. The free choice thing swings both ways.

[missmacabre]

Well said Crabby, but your post could definately use more poonuts.

[VampiricClown]

Well said Crabby, but your post could definately use more poonuts.

Haha, but are poo-nuts not for comedic purposes? Hmmm?? :p

[IndustrialKitty]

Hmm my post is a little late but i got to see a midnight showing on the 29th. I was really debating as to go or not to go because i myself am highly against remakes. I let a friend whose opnions i trusted on horror films convince me to go with him. I didnt go in with high expectations and im glad becuase i would have been severly let down. I completely hated that movie but then again i really really didnt like devils rejects that much either. I didnt mind house of 1000 corpses but then again i wouldnt want to own it and the last time i saw it was when it was in theatres. The only reaction zombies halloween got out of me was a gasp when i realized that brad douriff was playing the sheriff and seeing how much he has aged. But i completely feel that i wasted 8 bucks.

[crabapple]

WELL, ALL RIGHT. This movie is poo nuts, and Michael Myers isn't scary any more, he is just a little poo nut.

[IndustrialKitty]

What is it with poo nuts???

[missmacabre]

Haha, but are poo-nuts not for comedic purposes? Hmmm?? :p

Yes, I suppose they are but I'm still not used to intelligent posts coming from crabapple. :D

[Danielnogo]

IMO, In any movie almost, if you go in looking for flaws and go in wanting to be dissapointed you will be. I think so many people hold the original to dear to their hearts, and when this one didn't do the same thing for them that the original did they automatically didn't like it.
I havent watched the entire thing but heres my take on it.
For one thing: EVERYONE knows that michael myers is the killer already from the first 3 movies, so rob zombie trying to hide his identity and make him all mysterious would have been total pointless and would've looked like he was trying to just copy the first, and would have done nothing for tension.
Secondly, the Film is COMPLETELY original, and I'm glad it is, Rob Zombie is Rob Zombie, and i'm glad he stuck to doing this film his way, that way we have a fresh look at this story.
Thirdly: There are no movies that come out that really scare us in the same way that movies like nightmare on elm street did, or the original halloween did. Because we have been desensitized to that kinda stuff, and we are expecting more action and more gore. I hadn't seen the original before like 3 month ago, and to be honest I got a little bored in some parts, the violence was totally unrealistic, and took away from the scariness of the film IMO, I mean a girl gets her throat cut and no red line where she was cut, no blood gushing out no nothing.
To really scare viewers now adays, you need a mix of some different elements, take the movie The Descent: This is one of the best horror films I have ever seen. There was bucketloads of tension, not because they hid the monsters, but because the monsters were genuinely creepy, and could strike at any moment, in very painful ways. the movie was hella violent, and grossed me out in several parts, this added to the tension big time. Another thing that you need is human drama to add to the tension. the Glamorization of smoking and drinking in the first halloween, and premarital sex was so stupid to me, and it seemed like a propaganda film, I just couldn't relate to the characters in that film, they were airheads.
So just cause a movie freaked you out big time when you were 13 and you still have nightmares because of it, you shouldn't let that affect your view of a totally different film. Seriously, the only thing similar in the new halloween are some of the characters, and I'm glad it's like that.

[bwind22]

I just got back from watching Halloween. I was 1 of 6 people in the theatre, but it's a week day afternoon.

Halloween

The acting was fine, but the characters were all one dimensional cliches. The gore was plentiful, but not original. The plot abandoned logic on several ocasions and the haunting atmosphere of the original was nowhere to be found. Rob Zombie took one of the Top 5 horror films of all time and remade it into a completely average, run of the mill, slasher film. Graphic violence, tons of swearing and plenty of nudity is usually a recipe for a great horror film in my book, but not when it's a remake of Halloween.

Original - Minimal swearing, Remake- Maximum swearing
Original - Minimal onscreen violence, Remake - Maximum onscreen violence
Original - No nudity, Remake - Plenty of nudity
Original - Haunting atmosphere, Remake - No atmosphere
Original - Solid script, Remake - Illogical script

Original - A, Remake C+

C+

[paws the great]

Halloween

Original - No nudity,

C+

Are you sure?I remember some boobs in the original Halloween.:)

[bwind22]

Are you sure?I remember some boobs in the original Halloween.:)

You might be right. I should rephrase that to say it wasn't a focal point of the original, whereas Zombie seemed to rely heavily on it.

[crabapple]

In the original, you saw a little bit of P.J. Soles, and a little bit of the Judith Myers actress in the opening scene...not much else. Very sparing with the nudity, and it was not thrown in the audience's face.

[crabapple]

A lot of message boards, by the way, are definitely frequented by studio plants posing as "horror fans like you and me"...they show up with their subtle brainwashing tactics to convince you to "give the film a chance" and "ignore/forget your feelings about the original film" and so on. This of course has been standard practice since Blair Witch, the secret message board campaign.

They're pretty good about including spelling mistakes and other "errors" that make their posts look like they're written by innocent, fallible youngsters.

But like spammers, they are easy to spot because they generally have low post counts and don't spend too much time on other topics. And they show up out of nowhere, at just the right time...a week or two before the film's opening...

[VampiricClown]

Are you sure?I remember some boobs in the original Halloween.:)

You are right. The original had it's fair share of it. Not nearly as much as the remake, but it did have a few tit scenes.

[the_real_linda]

What is it with poo nuts???

random i know but i actually use that phrase now....:eek: thanks! ;)

[crabapple]

poo nuts....well, it is sort of a lame curse word, more on the funny side. you can call a cat a silly little poo nut if he's being dumb. or if you spill your fruit punch on the carpet and have to soak it up with paper towels you can say "OH POO NUTS" that way you won't offend people nearby by saying something harsher.

[Doc Faustus]

It's also the dance sensation that's sweepin' the nation.

[queencc]

Thankfully I was able to watch the movie online (thank god I didn't pay to see it or I would have asked for my money back)...

Halloween is my all time fav horror movie... When I first found out it was going to be remade I was a bit upset because most remakes have been crap... Needless to say I wasn't surprised when I saw this movie that it wasn't as good as the first... I did like some of the back story, but that was about it... IMO RZ should have just made a pre Halloween movie... I think just telling the back story leading up to the original would have been a better movie then him trying (and IMO failing) to redo the whole movie.

CC

[swiss tony]

Count the number of times I have said that myself in this very thread...







Others HAVE watched it and many have LOVED it. So do go and watch it...and then form your own conclusions, like tony said.

i know you weren't advocating not watching it (excuse the double negative), besides the more members that view these 'love it or hate it' movies the better the debate is on here.

[bloodrayne]

random i know but i actually use that phrase now....:eek: thanks! ;)HaHa...It's okay...Almost all of us have stolen...err...uhh...adopted...the poonuts expression

The baby thinks it's funny when we say it here, it makes him laugh for some reason

IMO RZ should have just made a pre Halloween movie... I think just telling the back story leading up to the original would have been a better movie then him trying (and IMO failing) to redo the whole movie.
Now THAT actually sounds like an excellent idea...I really liked Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning, and I'd imagine a "pre Halloween" would be something along those lines...Certainly better than messing with something that's already been done (and done quite well)

I haven't seen Zombie's Halloween yet, so I have to reserve judgement, but I honestly don't believe that I'll be surprised by anything when I do...I mean we ALL know his 'style', I'm pretty sure that we know exactly what to expect going in...And if what I've read in this thread so far is any indication, then yes, it IS going to be exactly what I would expect from Rob Zombie

I'll still buy it

[Sick_As_Fuck]

Posted this in the "last seen movie" thread and decided to post it here as well.

Saw "Halloween" last night. Aside from a few things during the young Michael sequences, I thought it was really good. I can't believe how much members on this forum hated it. I also can't believe how badly y'all missed the point of this movie. Of course, this is the same community that voted "Shaun of the Dead" as the best horror movie since 2000, LOL. Anyway...I guess y'all wanted an exact replice of the classic we got 30 years ago. If Zombie did that then everyone would criticize him for no creaitivity/originality. This was his own take on the Myers character and I personally believe he did a pretty damn good job with it. Period.

[crabapple]

I don't like poo nuts michael myers :mad:

he is just a lil poo nut :eek: :rolleyes: ;)

[massacre man]

Well uh, hi folks.

Anyway, I thought this movie was great, I didn't go in expecting a Halloween film, I went in expecting a Rob Zombie film and I got what I expected, I wasn't disappointed at all, except I wanted Brad Dourif to have a bigger part, other than that I loved it.

[jenna26]

Nothing too major, but may be some SPOILERS ahead......




I didn't hate it, but yes, it was very disappointing. The first hour I was bored out of my mind. Putting the focus on how screwed up his family was wasn't smart in my opinion. All subtlety and mystery flew right out the window. I felt absolutely nothing for Laurie, in fact, she was so aggravating I was hoping he would just put her out of MY misery....:rolleyes: He was too big. In fact, one of the scenes lifted directly from the original didn't even make sense because of his size. I might have enjoyed it a bit better had it not been a remake of Halloween. Zombie made a mistake deciding to remake this film. His style thus far, which worked well in one of his films, has been anything but subtle. And because of that, he basically turned Michael into a garden variety psychopath. He seemed to up the body count, hoping to make up for the fact that he just couldn't build any suspense. A huge disappointment. But I still respect Zombie, and I think he is still a decent horror director, and has great potential. He just took on too much here, I think.

[Asar]

This had to be one of the worst pieces of shit that I've ever had the displeasure of watching. Who agrees?

[massacre man]

I don't, I thought the film kicked some ass.

I didn't think of it as a Halloween film, because it's not, I just went in thinking "Rob Zombie's new movie" and I thought it was great, I loved the acting, the few complaints I have are (spoilers): Killing Danny Trejo, I know he had to die in that situation, but I'd rather Danny finds the bodies after Michael leaves and he's the one that reports the escape, so on from there. And Brad Dourif not having more screen time. Again, I wasn't expecting something suspenseful, I was just expecting to see Michael Myers back rockin' the shit in a new, almost entirely different movie and not getting his ass kicked by Busta Rhymes.

[Asar]

I don't, I thought the film kicked some ass.

I didn't think of it as a Halloween film, because it's not, I just went in thinking "Rob Zombie's new movie" and I thought it was great, I loved the acting, the few complaints I have are (spoilers): Killing Danny Trejo, I know he had to die in that situation, but I'd rather Danny finds the bodies after Michael leaves and he's the one that reports the escape, so on from there. And Brad Dourif not having more screen time. Again, I wasn't expecting something suspenseful, I was just expecting to see Michael Myers back rockin' the shit in a new, almost entirely different movie and not getting his ass kicked by Busta Rhymes.


You loved the "acting"? The scenes with the 30 year olds playing high school girls were painful at best. That was some of the worst acting and dialogue I've ever witnessed in a film. I was kind of embarassed for the actors in some of those scenes. I usually like Malcolm McDowell, but goddamn he just seemed completely dry, bored and uninterested during the whole film. The scenes with him counseling young mike were also painful to watch.

[massacre man]

You loved the "acting"? The scenes with the 30 year olds playing high school girls were painful at best. That was some of the worst acting and dialogue I've ever witnessed in a film. I was kind of embarassed for the actors in some of those scenes. I usually like Malcolm McDowell, but goddamn he just seemed completely dry, bored and uninterested during the whole film. The scenes with him counseling young mike were also painful to watch.

Scout Taylor-Compton is 18, I don't know how old Kristina is, Danielle Harris is 30, but she still did a good job. Their characters seemed believable enough. The actors did the best with what they had, William Forsythe makes excellent white trash. I thought Malcolm did great, especially the "Almost twice as long as my first marriage" scene. And Brad Dourif is Brad fucking Dourif, I enjoyed it.

[Asar]

Scout Taylor-Compton is 18, I don't know how old Kristina is, Danielle Harris is 30, but she still did a good job. Their characters seemed believable enough. The actors did the best with what they had, William Forsythe makes excellent white trash. I thought Malcolm did great, especially the "Almost twice as long as my first marriage" scene. And Brad Dourif is Brad fucking Dourif, I enjoyed it.


To each his own...I just wanted to see who agreed with me. Anyway, what's so great about Brad Dourif? I thought he sucked horribly too.

[illdojo]

Well, this thread is TOTALLY original. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Asar]

I started my own thread....With a poll!!!! Where is it? Why is it mixed in with this? Do I need to repost my poll?

[missmacabre]

I never would've known Danielle harris was 30 if I hadn't read it here. I actually didn't believe it and looked it up! She played a very good teenager.

[Supernatural Brother]

I've been hearing bad reviews like this so far. I'm prepared for the let down, even though I'm hoping it turns out real good. I'm waiting for the DVD release.

[tic]

I will go and see it anyway. Having said that:
1: I liked the remake of Texas ChainSaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes, so probably not the best person to have an opinion on it!
2: I have finally just seen Saw and TCM: The Beginning, so with this track record, I'll tell you what I think about it in 2-3 years time.

[Asar]

How bad did you think it was?

[massacre man]

You do know the first was merged with another topic for a reason, right? Because there's already a fucking a topic about the movie.

[horrorchic]

I'm rather liked it anyway.

[Asar]

You do know the first was merged with another topic for a reason, right? Because there's already a fucking a topic about the movie.

I know. This one is different.

Vote, please.

[jenna26]

So the movie is so bad, that there should be three or four whole threads devoted to it? Wow.....;)

I vote didn't care for it, and it was a huge disappointment, but it could've been worse.....oh wait, that's not option....so I guess I can't vote. :D

[Roderick Usher]

It's not nearly as bad as this thread

[Zero]

It's not nearly as bad as this thread

maybe rob could direct the remake of this crappy thread. . . it needs a drunk father and slut mother - - - oh and some power chords!

[VampiricClown]

Indeed, you are Rob Zombie. You even thought the movie was a bit of a disappointment. :D

[scarecrow666]

I really enjoyed the film. I had a big grin in some scences . (Its prefectly normal).;)

[_____V_____]

For those who are curious about the differences between the workprint and the theatrical print...you can check the differences here :-


*****CAUTION! MAJOR SPOILERS IN THE LINK AHEAD!*****


http://horror-movie-a-day.blogspot.com/1978/10/secret-post.html

[tic]

Us Brits will have to wait to 28th September to decide how good or bad it is.

I do however have a small query: The trailer come on yesterday on tv and this along with the publicity stills defineately shows the 'boy' Michael wearing his now famous mask, is this the case?

[crabapple]

Yes, that is the case.

[tic]

Sacrilege!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[ZombieChick13]

I went to see it at midnight when it premiered. The previews made it look at least decent, but I was so extremely disappointed. It was the first horror movie I've watched that made me laugh at death scenes (that were supposed to be serious, not comical). And I HATED that they made Michael out to be just your old run-of-the-mill serial killer instead of simply pure evil.

The beginning reminded me way too much of The Devil's Rejects, too. Language-wise.

[_____V_____]

Just a small update number-wise...

Halloween has currently passed $50 million at the box office.

[Zombi]

I've been reading all the interviews with zombie for the past like 4-5 months and yeah, i never really had respect for zombie as a filmmaker although i gave him chances. its cool that he got the dude from clockwork orange, who never saw the original to be donald pleasence's "dr.loomis" and ...but that wouldn't make me go to theaters for it. Really... im not a pessimist lol but yeah i'm gonna wait till it comes out on video to see this, just to make up for the lack of suspense you all keep talking about :cool:

[Toddums]

I liked it, a nice change of pace from the crappy horror movies they put out these days. I nice slasher flick with some backround to go with.