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wanderer
05-16-2008, 02:29 AM
Hi everyone. I'm working on a horror movie article and am doing a poll on the most influential horror films of the 2000's. I'd be grateful if anybody could given me ideas as what they think are landmarks of horror from the last 8 years and why. Thanks in advance:)
Ferox13
05-16-2008, 03:22 AM
Whats the article for?
Just some I think that were influencial:
The Ring (2002) - The film that interduced the Japanese/Korean/Asian 'style' of horror to manin stream American/European audiences.
Saw/Hostel - Influencial enough to get the media to coin the stupid 'Torture porn' label for.
Haute Tension - I don't think it was as influencial as it should have been but it showed you can still make an exciting and tense slasher with out resorting to the self referential Scream formula.
You can prolly list alot of the finanially successful Remakes as they perpetuate the making of even more remakes...
House of 1000 corpses/Grindhouse/Devils Rejects/Doomsday - Showed us all that it ok to copy and regurgitate old films just as long as you call it a Homage :-)
28 days Later - Personally proof that the 'zombie type' film isn't dead.
There are alot of decent films form the 2000's but I dunno if I'd call them influencial :
The Descent
Shaun of the dead.
Dawn of the Dead Remake
wanderer
05-16-2008, 03:28 AM
Thanks for the reply. The article is about how horror has changed since it begun and what films have made it change. 'Saw' is one that I had thought of just because it seems to of sparked a new era of gore and violent movies and also includes a kind of psychological presence.
Haute tension is brilliant although it has not received nearly enough praise and recognition as it deserves.
Thanks again:)
urgeok2
05-16-2008, 03:38 AM
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The Ring (2002) - The film that interduced the Japanese/Korean/Asian 'style' of horror to main stream American/European audiences.
1st one i thought of.
not only did it introduce japanese/asian horror films to north america by way of an american remake - it also paved the way for many more american remakes.
Elvis_Christ
05-16-2008, 06:03 AM
Mordum
For reviving 1st person camera films while delivering the thrills n' spills of the heyday of exploitation/trash cinema.
Ginger Snaps
Reinvisioned subgenres and took the underlying theme of feminism to a new level.
These two flicks made me feel like I was watching something groundbreaking on a bunch of levels.
Haven't seen the influence Fido will have on the genre yet but i feel its gonna be big.
urgeok2
05-16-2008, 06:06 AM
Haven't seen the influence Fido will have on the genre yet but i feel its gonna be big.
you think so ?
i didnt think it got that much exposure ..
it should have gotten tons.
Elvis_Christ
05-16-2008, 06:16 AM
you think so ?
i didnt think it got that much exposure ..
it should have gotten tons.
Yeh I do although not initially. It's formula will be used a bunch I can see it bringing a new wave of more family orientated horror flicks in the vein of Gremlins or The Monster Squad.
urgeok2
05-16-2008, 06:22 AM
the influence i hope it waould have is : if you're going to do something - do it right - give attention to detail .. if you're going for a retro look .. don't do a half assed job.
Fido did everything right... most horror movies arent given that much care and love.
Elvis_Christ
05-16-2008, 06:47 AM
Fido did everything right... most horror movies arent given that much care and love.
A lot of directors use the genre as a stepping stone to what they feel is more legitimate cinema and don't have their heart in the genre which leads to weak films. A lot of directors think they can do the Speilberg/Jackon thing and move from monster movies to epics. I've been a fan of the genre for close to 20 years and you begin to spot the passionatless phony directors that almost seem like there clockwatching waiting for something better to happen.
I hope Fido brings more emotive films (I got chocked up watching Fido and found it heart warming too) that appeal to a wide range of people without belittling the genre to a novelty.
urgeok2
05-16-2008, 06:54 AM
i agree - unfortunately - horror fans themselves are their own worst enemy.
they'd look at a film like that and figure it wasnt bad-ass enough - not hard core enough for them and they'd dismiss it.
and people who dont like horror or genre films wouldnt get it.
(sort of like Grindhouse - it falls between the cracks of two unappreciative groups.)
and you're right - i believe a lot of 1st time directors are handed a project - that they cant break - it's a throw-away so who cares.
you really see the difference when a director has a lot of love for the genre. even if they dont have the big budget - the love and entheusiasm shines through
Elvis_Christ
05-16-2008, 07:22 AM
they'd look at a film like that and figure it wasnt bad-ass enough - not hard core enough for them and they'd dismiss it.
....
you really see the difference when a director has a lot of love for the genre. even if they dont have the big budget - the love and entheusiasm shines through
I was kinda put off by the horror/comedy thing because it's been overdone and its tired to me and a lot of those flicks become overplayed (Army Of Darkness/Braindead/Shaun of the Dead. But it blew away all my apprehensions by being a innovative film of the subgenre and the best of its type since Evil Dead 2. I dig the lighthearted films especially I get burnt out by the extreme stuff... its good to chill out to something like Strange Invaders.
I dig the Toetag Pictures stuff for passion and love of the genre. They get dismissed as lowbrow/controversial/artless but their shit reminds me of the heyday of the Savini collaborations with William Lustig/Joesph Zito. The Redsin Tower was a better throwback to the 80s than Hatchet and their special effects are amazing. Hated by 90% of people but whatever I'd pick up something with their name attached to it than a lot of the indie dire indie shit out there.
urgeok2
05-16-2008, 07:31 AM
i'm open to almost anything .. i'm just getting really sick of incompetance.
shit acting, shit lighting, shit editing.
i've just seen so many of these i cant find anything to enjoy.
once in a blue moon you see some promise peeking through though.
(My Dead Girlfriend, The Stink of Flesh ... where they might not have the budget - but the writing is good and the acting is getting there)
_____V_____
05-16-2008, 10:00 AM
I know a lot of you wont admit this...
Rob Zombie has been a very strong influential force in post-2K horror.
Just look at his resume - 3 movies and 1 fake trailer. Each of them has scored with the audiences, and the critics.
Love him or hate him, you cant help but agree.
urgeok2
05-16-2008, 10:06 AM
I know a lot of you wont admit this...
Rob Zombie has been a very strong influential force in post-2K horror.
Just look at his resume - 3 movies and 1 fake trailer. Each of them has scored with the audiences, and the critics.
Love him or hate him, you cant help but agree.
i'm not one of the haters - but i'd say QT broke the ground he's treading first (homages to genre films of the 70's)
but i'd definately say he's made a contribution to regenerating interest in hard horror.
Ferox13
05-16-2008, 11:23 AM
The article is about how horror has changed since it begun and what films have made it change.
I meant what are you writng the article for ? College? Magazine etc?
Elvis C- Do you think AU/Mordum etc have been seen by enough people to have an influence on the genre. I really don't think Cloverfield/Diary of the dead were influenced by them and Blair Witch was made before the first AU film.
As Directors Nakata, Miike and Park were very influencial for the acceptance of the new wave of Asian films in the west.
Elvis_Christ
05-16-2008, 07:26 PM
Big fan of Rob Zombie and agree that the QT broke the ground first. His flicks have definatley regenerated an interest in the genre just like QT's flicks did for the crime genre. I'd love to see QT do a horror film
Elvis C- Do you think AU/Mordum etc have been seen by enough people to have an influence on the genre. I really don't think Cloverfield/Diary of the dead were influenced by them and Blair Witch was made before the first AU film.
Yes, and it showed the 1st person camera films can make an effective film on a limited budget... its success was a big part in how Diary Of The Dead was filmed.
I was meaning Mordum revived the genre after Blair Witch for the 2000's.
_____V_____
05-17-2008, 07:36 AM
i'm not one of the haters - but i'd say QT broke the ground he's treading first (homages to genre films of the 70's)
but i'd definately say he's made a contribution to regenerating interest in hard horror.
Yep thats true.
But for a maker who is only 3 movies old, I d say thats a heck of a contribution.
I can imagine how his influence on today's horror will be like once he's done about 20-25 movies. As long as he doesnt get pulled into studios' concoctions about raking in the money, and compromise decent quality and own ability.
Disease
05-17-2008, 08:59 AM
Hi everyone. I'm working on a horror movie article and am doing a poll on the most influential horror films of the 2000's. I'd be grateful if anybody could given me ideas as what they think are landmarks of horror from the last 8 years and why. Thanks in advance:)
Yeah, first of all, will I be quoted in the article or will you just steal my opinion?
Disease
05-17-2008, 09:03 AM
the influence i hope it waould have is : if you're going to do something - do it right - give attention to detail .. if you're going for a retro look .. don't do a half assed job.
Fido did everything right... most horror movies arent given that much care and love.
Fido was a very well made movie, but it wasn't very entertaining, maybe if I was ten years old, but I'm not.
Even Toy story was more entertaining to me and it isn't horror, I was very dissapointed in Fido, it could have been great.
Ferox13
05-17-2008, 09:08 AM
But for a maker who is only 3 movies old, I d say thats a heck of a contribution.
Gotta agree with you.
You look at the horroe boards are people talking about Bava/Argento/Tourneur..nope
They're talking about Zombie/Aja/Eli Roth - they are defianlly influencial...
massacre man
05-17-2008, 02:40 PM
How are we supposed to know who from this decade has the most influence? We haven't left the decade yet, how can we tell who had an impact when we haven't seen the work of the following generation?
Roderick Usher
05-17-2008, 02:45 PM
[QUOTE=Ferox13;698255]You look at the horroe boards are people talking about Bava/Argento/Tourneur..nope
[QUOTE]
Come on, we're pretty good at instilling a broad scope of knowledge and appreciation of the classics at this site.
But I think Guillermo Del Toro may be seen as the most influential figure in contemporary horror.
CRONOS was cool,
MIMIC was odd, but interesting and creepy,
BLADE 2 proved that a sequel could be better than the original (which is huge)
THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE was atmospheric as hell and truly scary as well as truly touching
PAN'S LABYRINTH may not be technically horror, but because of that he has reached an amazingly wide audience who have been tricked into appreciating his specific (and horrific) obsession with monsters.
HELL BOY & HELL BOY II are both monster-filled action flicks that are bathed in the history of horror (specifially HP Lovecraft)
He spreads horror even in his non-horror works.He IS the horror master of his age.
ChronoGrl
05-17-2008, 04:58 PM
Thanks for the reply. The article is about how horror has changed since it begun and what films have made it change. 'Saw' is one that I had thought of just because it seems to of sparked a new era of gore and violent movies and also includes a kind of psychological presence.
Not just Saw, but Hostel and Rob Zombie that really brought meaning to torture porn. In fact, it's interesting how "exploitation" (of the 70s horror films, for example), has become "torture porn." You could talk about how Texas Chainsaw Massacre has evolved (or "de-volved," whichever side you want to take) into films such as the aforementioned, Wolf Creek, and Touristas.
It's been mentioned before, but The Ring brought the JA horror explosion to America, which seems to be so hot right now (with The Grudge, Dark Waters, One Missed Call, Shutter, The Eye, et al) and you can argue whether or not it's a good thing.
Even though it came out in 1999, you might want to site Blair Witch as being on the cusp of 2000 and becoming one of the most influential films in modern horror film history. You now see the hand-held first-person cam being utilized more often (Cloverfield, Diary of the Dead, [rec]) as a medium for seeing into the characters' psyche.
The movie 28 Days Later made us reimagine the concept of "zombies" by creating a movie with an infectious theme, but creating a human monster that was more of a frenetic, horrifying, immediate threat. Instead of lumbering beasts, you have rage-filled running terrors. Definitely a new face of infection that you'll see also in the Dawn of the Dead remake, Mulberry Street, and 28 Weeks Later. A new kind of human monster.
I think that Del Toro is an amazing horror director, but I wouldn't necessarily call him "influential." While Eli Roth definitely was a catalyst for the new genre of torture flicks and The Ring brought Japanese Ghosts across the world, I don't see Del Toro necessarily starting any kind of fads. Not that he's a bad director; far from it. He's brilliant, but I think that for the time being he's a genius on his own (with his own constructs and archetypes that he constantly revisits). He's definitely a visionary, but I don't think that he's necessarily changed the face of horror... yet.
Roderick Usher
05-17-2008, 05:59 PM
I think that Del Toro is an amazing horror director, but I wouldn't necessarily call him "influential." While Eli Roth definitely was a catalyst for the new genre of torture flicks and The Ring brought Japanese Ghosts across the world, I don't see Del Toro necessarily starting any kind of fads.
He is already producing other people's horror films (like THE PRHANAGE) that feel just like his films. I believe that the one who is inspiring the most young film fans and creating his own brand is Del Toro - his influence will impact a generation and soon we'll be holding him amongst the ranks of Argento, Carpenter, Raimi and Jackson.
ChronoGrl
05-17-2008, 07:25 PM
He is already producing other people's horror films (like THE PRHANAGE) that feel just like his films. I believe that the one who is inspiring the most young film fans and creating his own brand is Del Toro - his influence will impact a generation and soon we'll be holding him amongst the ranks of Argento, Carpenter, Raimi and Jackson.
Oh, I know. But as I mentioned, he's just not there... yet. If the topic was "ambitious up-and-coming horror moviemakers," then he would be top of the list. But under the topic of "Most Influential horror of the 2000's," I wouldn't consider him "influential..." yet.
However, I'm excited for Hellboy 2 (I enjoyed the first one and this one looks even better) and definitely looking forward to his future ventures.
Despare
05-17-2008, 10:08 PM
1st one i thought of.
not only did it introduce japanese/asian horror films to north america by way of an american remake - it also paved the way for many more american remakes.
Not only THAT but it made lots of money which led to many a PG-13 "horror" film being released.
Ferox13
05-19-2008, 11:54 PM
Come on, we're pretty good at instilling a broad scope of knowledge and appreciation of the classics at this site.
Actually it wasn't really this one in particular I was thinking about :-)
James Whale
05-29-2008, 08:47 PM
ZOMBIE has given us a gonzo TOBE HOOPER inspired white trash horror sub genre. Three money making films that all got decent reviews. He created a sub genre. DEL TORO is a bloody genius. He is quoted as saying-on an NPR interview - that GODZILLA was his JESUS! My kind of guy! The Japanese inspired films are also a huge influence. The SAW movies are very popular. I just don't think they are important. Torture porn doen't seem like horror to me. Maybe I'm a horror snob.