What do you REALLY think about cops [Archive] - Horror.com Forums

neverending

05-07-2008, 05:36 PM

As a hippie in the 60s and 70s I hated the damn pigs, but now that I'm an old fart and the world seems like a much scarier place than it did 35 years ago, I'm bloody well glad there are cops. There are people out there that are a lot scarier to me than cops are and I'm glad there are people out there who are willing to put their lives on the line for me.

Abuse happens, and brutality happens, and I don't like that- but I sure as hell wouldn't want to do away with police. And I don't care who thinks I'm an old-fashioned pussy because of it.

missmacabre

05-07-2008, 05:50 PM

cops here are stupid and get half price coffee. The can have it though. (im seriously so pissed at coffee haha)

Elvis_Christ

05-07-2008, 05:53 PM

Honestly, they scare the shit out of me. Nothing is more frightening then police brutality, and I rarely come across a cop who isn't on some kind of power high.

I think they're necessary, but sometimes the amount of unquestionable power they have scares me genuinely.

^^ Pretty much how I feel. We have one of the most scumbag police forces over here they've been hit with a bunch of rape charges and even shot up a street to try and kill a dog.
You should've seen the army of pigs they sent to bust a AA gig I went to really fuckin' pathetic.... told them that too. Someone was probably being attacked at that moment in the city while they were intimidating 15 y.o girls.

20 or so years later and the MDC song I Remember is still dead on and relevant to what's going on.

pinkfloyd45769

05-07-2008, 05:58 PM

Most of the time they suck,the ones here anyway.They never come when you need them,and they are always around when you don't.

newb

05-07-2008, 06:11 PM

I have nothing but respect for most of them. Its a thankless job...most of the time dealing with the scum of society for a meager salary.

not to mention that my father was a cop for twenty years....so what can I say;)

The_Return

05-07-2008, 06:38 PM

I have no reason to dislike them...never had any real experience with them though, good or bad.

Despare

05-07-2008, 06:47 PM

Depends on the cop. I've known great cops, real good guys. I've also known giant assholes drunk on power. The smaller the town the worse the second one seems to get, most of the "good guys" I mentioned first transfered to other divisions because of the bullshit politics and crooked jerkoffs. I KNOW in big cities there are tons of ahole cops but there's usually enough to keep them busy. Give me an Ann Arbor or Detroit cop over a hick town sheriff any day. Like religious freaks and teenagers, a few real shitty examples of the group can forge somebody's opinion on the collective.

Roderick Usher

05-07-2008, 06:57 PM

Elvis_Christ

05-07-2008, 06:58 PM

Well put Mr Usher

Disease

05-07-2008, 07:01 PM

From my experience, they are assholes, they don't want to help, they can't be bothered with the paperwork...

Elvis_Christ

05-07-2008, 07:04 PM

From my experience, they are assholes, they don't want to help, they can't be bothered with the paperwork...

They might be quicker to help if you bribed them? :D

Disease

05-07-2008, 07:08 PM

They might be quicker to help if you bribed them? :D

It's a shame your probably right..

Staplez

05-07-2008, 07:12 PM

Depends. Ive meet some who are pretty cool guys. Also meet some who are assholes.
Like anything else, as many cops as there are theres bound to be some dicks in the bunch.

VampiricClown

05-07-2008, 07:31 PM

One of the cops in my town got arrested for having child pornography on his computer. So I must say, I don't like cops.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

05-07-2008, 08:29 PM

^^ Pretty much how I feel. We have one of the most scumbag police forces over here they've been hit with a bunch of rape charges and even shot up a street to try and kill a dog.
You should've seen the army of pigs they sent to bust a AA gig I went to really fuckin' pathetic.... told them that too. Someone was probably being attacked at that moment in the city while they were intimidating 15 y.o girls.

20 or so years later and the MDC song I Remember is still dead on and relevant to what's going on.

the 4skins song "ACAB" (All Cops Are Bastards)" is pretty dead on too. (atleast the title) :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYZU2am6WLk

urgeok2

05-07-2008, 10:37 PM

i've never had any problem with the police.
then again - i dont do anything wrong.

only time i see them is when i get caught speeding (my fault - so why would i get mad at them ?) or when i play volleyball with them.

like others have said - i'd sure hate to live in a world without them.

and like others have said - they're people. there are going to be good ones and bad ones - just like any other profession.

but i think bad teachers have caused more harm than any bad cop ever could.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

05-07-2008, 10:52 PM

we need robot cops god damnit!

it's the year 2008, where the hell are the robots?

Honestly, if I saw a fight break out with the H.A and the cops, I would be cheering for the H.A. They're charming until you piss them off atleast, cops are bastards 24/7

The STE

05-07-2008, 11:20 PM

They can be dicks but they can be useful. I'm occasionally not as quick to call brutality than others (fuck him, the "Don't tase me bro" guy had that shit coming), but people are often hypocritical and abusive of whatever bit of power they get, and cops are people with guns.

Ferox13

05-07-2008, 11:37 PM

One of the cops in my town got arrested for having child pornography on his computer. So I must say, I don't like cops.

By that reasoning I don't l;ike people in your town either.

Elvis_Christ

05-08-2008, 03:02 AM

the 4skins song "ACAB" (All Cops Are Bastards)" is pretty dead on too. (atleast the title) :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYZU2am6WLk

Haha ACAB the ultimate tuff guy tattoo :D
http://offbeatink.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/acab-tattoo.jpg

but i think bad teachers have caused more harm than any bad cop ever could.

A lot of teachers and cops are unequipped to deal with problem/at risk kids. Both can be heavy handed/complacent and just make the situation worse. Bad parenting and poverty are factors too. I hope a lot of the shit I saw in schools growing up doesn't go on anymore some teachers were just sadist bullies with over reactive discipline. But on the other hand some were fantastic at what they did.

ferretchucker

05-08-2008, 06:53 AM

They used to get the job done. If they knew that someone did it but didn't have quite enough proof, so what if they planted something, 99% of the time they were guilty. Now, they have to fill out 50 forms before they can give you a good talking to. It's not entirely their fault (although I was pissed when I saw the police station full of police cars last Friday Night.), it's the system that won't let them do anything.

Vodstok

05-08-2008, 06:57 AM

having been arrested several times (a few earned, but a couple of times completely unwarrented) I gotta say they're just like the rest of the people on this planet... a few reall good guys and gals drowning in a sea of opportunitic assholes with delusions of power and entitlement.
ive never been arrested (althoug i did plenty of shit when i was 15 to warrant it), and have never been pulled over when i didnt deserve it, but, i completely agree with this assessment. I have nothingbut respect for the mantle of Cop; they are necessary. Also, i tend to think of cops as good until i am proven differently, but then that is how i try to apporach most people.

Phalanx

05-08-2008, 07:00 AM

I think generally they're ok, with a larger image/public perception (like any group) that can be spoiled by a minority.
I don't have any "problems" with them, but more than likely because I don't dress and/or act like a fuckwit/the kind of person they'd deem attention-worthy.
Sure, there's been incidents - but that stuff was always my own fault.
They've been of assistance when required.

Overall, neutral...I'll start hating individuals if and when neccessary.

Doc Faustus

05-08-2008, 07:01 AM

I respect cops who might get shot. Cops who have no chance of getting shot I can't respect as much.

jenna26

05-08-2008, 08:12 AM

Well, I don't trust them.....but that's pretty much because I don't really trust people in general.....;) I have never been arrested, and I have pretty much "behaved myself" .....for the most part....:rolleyes: But when I was a kid, we lived in one area where many of the cops were just completely out of control. And another where they were so damned bored, they were just looking to give people a hard time.

Like others have said, I certainly wouldn't want to live without them, they are necessary. I believe there are decent cops, cops that want to do good, and help....I also believe that becoming a police officer can be very attractive to a certain kind of individual. Its a position of power, and like ALL positions of power......it can definitely attract people that are more about abusing that power than anything.

illdojo

05-08-2008, 09:57 AM

Fuck tha police
Comin straight from the underground
Young nigga got it bad cuz I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority

Fuck that shit, cuz I ain't tha one
For a punk muthafucka with a badge and a gun
To be beatin on, and throwin in jail
We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell

Fuckin with me cuz I'm a teenager
With a little bit of gold and a pager
Searchin my car, lookin for the product
Thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics

You'd rather see me in the pen
Then me and Lorenzo rollin in the Benzo
Beat tha police outta shape
And when I'm finished, bring the yellow tape
To tape off the scene of the slaughter
Still can't swallow bread and water

I don't know if they fags or what
Search a nigga down and grabbin his nuts
And on the other hand, without a gun they can't get none
But don't let it be a black and a white one
Cuz they slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin out for the white cop

Ice Cube will swarm
On any muthafucka in a blue uniform
Just cuz I'm from the CPT, punk police are afraid of me
A young nigga on a warpath
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath
Of cops, dyin in LA
Yo Dre, I got somethin to say

Fuck tha police!!!!!! :D

Despare

05-08-2008, 12:59 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2myV0b9LE7I

VampiricClown

05-08-2008, 01:25 PM

By that reasoning I don't l;ike people in your town either.

And what's so screwed up about it, there are drugs, shootings and rape all happening in my town, while the cops sit at the gas station and give people tickets for going down a road that barely anyone goes down, while some are sitting at home jacking off to children being molested! :mad:

The Mothman

05-08-2008, 02:25 PM

They shut down my favorite venue,
They maced a bunch of kids at a show I was at,
tackled my friend and gave him assault charges for slapping a cops hand away as he reached for his wallet to see his ID.
fuck the police.

The Mothman

05-08-2008, 02:29 PM

20 or so years later and the MDC song I Remember is still dead on and relevant to what's going on.

that song is freaking sick.

"I remember getting intimidated and busted at age 13 by the police.
I remember my friend Tate Bryan getting shot in the back in Tampa, FL for his first-offense burglary.
I remember the police firing at the crowds and killing children cause they were the wrong color.
I remember the narcs from my high school trying to set me up for a big fall.
I remember the police bringing dogs into our school and sniffing away my rights.
The police is the klan is the mafia and they're out for me, and soon they're going to be out to get you, so you better get going if you know it's good for you and take your stand."

Roderick Usher

05-08-2008, 06:30 PM

Meter Maids need to have thier asses kicked daily just for taking the job

Elvis_Christ

05-08-2008, 06:34 PM

Meter Maids need to have thier asses kicked daily just for taking the job

Seems to be what Hall Monitors grow up to be

X¤MurderDoll¤X

05-08-2008, 07:11 PM

and meter maids are basically failed cops. they weren't big enough assholes to get a badge

Elvis_Christ

05-08-2008, 07:15 PM

and meter maids are basically failed cops. they weren't big enough assholes to get a badge

or too dumb to be a security guard

urgeok2

05-09-2008, 06:43 AM

and meter maids are basically failed cops. they weren't big enough assholes to get a badge

beats being one of those people who walk around department stores trying to catch people shoplifting.

(they're outside - get to walk around, spit on, etc.

hey, what the hell, if people weren't inherintly assholes, there would be no need for cops, meter maids, or security guards.

but because so many of us feel that it is worth the risk to break the laws - play the game - they end up hating the people who bust them for it when they lose.

doesnt make much sense really.

Dante'sInferno

05-09-2008, 06:52 AM

My Grandpa was a Sherrif.So I never really met any mean cops.They all helped me when I needed help.So I don't really have a problem with any of them.

Despare

05-09-2008, 06:57 AM

It's nice when everybody has good experiences with police but I've seen them be some major pricks. I watched one group of kids get pulled over and searched, their truck taken apart (tires off, doors apart, the works and their cell phones were taken so they couldn't call their parents), and when nothing was found and no ticket could be written the kids were handed back their phones and cops left. Unfortunately for the group of teens they had no tools to put their vehicle back together which the cops just left in pieces on the side of the road.

_____V_____

05-09-2008, 07:10 AM

Pretty much everything has been said already...I ll just narrate an incident which happened awhile back...

This guy at the place I work was pretty much a regular, dumbshit geek who did his job and went back home. One fine morning, the cops barge into the office and demand to know who he was (by name). When pointed out, they come runnin over and beat the shit outta him in front of all of us, and literally drag him out of the office into the waiting police car outside, all the while kickin and stomping on him. He was a bloody mess by the time they lock him up inside the car and drive off. We all watched, flabbergasted.

Next thing we heard was he was accused of giving shelter to some illegal Mexicans and Asians and that they had hardcore evidence of him having guns and stuff at his home. He was in the lockup for a week, where they beat him to a pulp.

Poor guy didnt have enough to get some legal help for himself, but seeing his track record, the boss asked one of the company's legal advisors to do something for him. The advisor took some time in collating with the police and the investigators and found out that the real suspect was the guy's neighbor, not him. They had the wrong address on their comps and had gone ahead according to the addy the police comps had thrown out.

Because of that technical glitch, the guy needed 36 stitches on the nose right between the eyes, about 6-7 stitches on each eyebrow and eyelids, 4-5 stitches on both cheeks and plenty of blows and whacks on his entire body.

Next morning, they released him. The advisor asked him to go to court and sue em for damages, but he declined. Took him about 2 months to recover sufficiently to come back to work.

urgeok2

05-09-2008, 07:52 AM

sadly there will be examples where there are some bad cops - where mistakes have been made ...

but there are far more bad guys than there are cops. even the minor league badguys like probably every single person here (speeding, copying DVDs :o

stuff like that.... shit it's probably 10,000 to 1 on really bad guys alone.

unfortunately it's the bad stuff that makes the news. we dont see a lot of press coverage where a cop saves someone - or catches the bastard that raped your daughter, or takes a knife in the back from the abused wife the cop showed up to help.

like i said before - there are more bad teachers, or doctors, or politicians, etc, than there are bad cops and i think they - in whole - have done far more harm in our society.

one thing to remember .. (and it goes for border police as well)

when being questioned .. be polite. dont be an asshole. stay calm and curtious. if being a big man smart ass is worth a cracked skull - then by all means - exorcise your right to call him/her an asshole.

just dont stand anywhere near me when you're doing it.

_____V_____

05-09-2008, 07:56 AM

True.

I have known instances of cops taking a bullet meant for bystanders. Just how many times have they saved people from hijackings, kidnaps, rapes, possible killings, etc...common weekly occurrences which are too many to be recorded or applauded.

There are two sides to the coin. Of course, the shitty side makes the news and sadly, the bright side does not.

It all ends up for them of being worthy of a posthumous medal, or possibly a gold watch.

Nothing more.

urgeok2

05-09-2008, 08:02 AM

It all ends up for them of being worthy of a posthumous medal, or possibly a gold watch.

Nothing more.

a flag folded on a coffin.

_____V_____

05-09-2008, 08:10 AM

a flag folded on a coffin.

"Sorry Paps, you did your bit. Life moves on."

People tend to forget that cops are also humans - some of them bound by duty, others bound by their job to support a family.

Mistakes happen. I think the guy at my office realised it too. He knew there was no way of taking back what they did to him in a week in the lockup.

For every bad cop, there are always 10 good cops.

A classic case of one bad apple spoiling the entire barrel...

urgeok2

05-09-2008, 08:22 AM

A classic case of one bad apple spoiling the entire barrel...

and folks who like to live on the shadier side of the street will cling to anything to support/justify their own actions ..

hammerfan

05-09-2008, 10:28 AM

There are two sides to the coin. Of course, the shitty side makes the news and sadly, the bright side does not.

It all ends up for them of being worthy of a posthumous medal, or possibly a gold watch.

Nothing more.

For example: What is everyone reading or hearing about on the news in Philly right now? About a bunch of cops beating a suspect -- not about Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski, who was killed in the line of duty responding to a bank robbery. The people in the neighborhood tried to keep him alive until the ambulance got there, but it was too late. He had a hero's funeral today - complete with his body being taken to Cathedral Basilicia Sts. Peter and Paul by horse-drawn carriage. All of the political people were there: the mayor, the governor, the chief of police.

ChronoGrl

05-09-2008, 08:24 PM

What do you REALLY think about cops

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Chronogrl/pig_police_cartoon.jpg

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I really have a significant amount to say on the topic... But Chrono is very very tired.

_____V_____

05-09-2008, 08:29 PM

I really have a significant amount to say on the topic... But Chrono is very very tired.

Aww...cmere, lemme cuddle and fondle ya till you fall asleep. :)

newb

05-09-2008, 08:33 PM

Aww...cmere, lemme cuddle and fondle ya till you fall asleep. :)

oh...ohh.....newb is very very tired as well........fondle time:D

newb

05-09-2008, 08:36 PM

oh...ohh.....newb is very very tired as well........fondle time:D

right......I must be tired...I just read that back and creeped myself out....night all

_____V_____

05-09-2008, 08:37 PM

oh...ohh.....newb is very very tired as well........fondle time :D

Mrs. Newb!!

:D

right......I must be tired...I just read that back and creeped myself out....night all

Nite, gramps. Be sure to take your medicine and tuck yourself in tight.

ChronoGrl

05-10-2008, 06:51 AM

*fondles both V and Newb*

Ferox13

05-10-2008, 11:28 AM

For every bad cop, there are always 10 good cops.

A classic case of one bad apple spoiling the entire barrel...

A pretty naive view i'd say..

I would say the 'majority' of cops start with the notion that its a decent job/has benefits and they might have a chance to do something positive. At the rookie stage very few are of the 'asshole'/abuse of power' type'

So they get on the job - some of it is good and a lot lot of its not so good. Firstly, though they are the upholders of law and order, a fair few of those they are trying protect threat them like shit on their shoe..also the laws they are trying to enforce don't really work as well as they do on paper once it gets to court.....and another their hours are damn anti-social meaning the only people they end up hanging with are...other cops...before long its an 'us and them' mentality. which to be honest isn't unreasonable since 90% of those that they have to deal with are junkies/scum/criminals and 99% of the shit out of them are lies.....

So spending most of your waking time (work hours) in this envionment changes - had for the most part not in a positive way. ....personally i'd say cops are good at dealing with criminals but where the line crosses and they have to deal with people who don't spend much of their time in and out of jail thats when u see em at the worse..of course this is pretty simplistic but you get my point.

I live in Ireland and i'm talking personally and things may be different in America/Main land europe etc tec.

Despare

05-19-2008, 08:28 PM

I hate the fact that around here the state of Michigan (and especially the city of Detroit thanks to our great mayor) is broke and yet they're "mobilizing strike forces" to make sure that every good little citizen is buckled.

Bullshit.

Let's put extra cops that we supposedly can't afford to pay (that's what they say when a unit doesn't respond to a crime) on the road to make sure people are buckled up. Assholes.