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GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 07:35 AM
I need all the HDC comic fans help!

I am participating in a Comic Book Hero Draft and I need to come up with a theme for my team but I am stumped. If you are unfamiliar with a draft it is like this. You get a team of five characters and you make an idea for a team and then write up a story for them and the people participating vote on the most creative.

You need to draft the following:

1 Marvel Character
1 DC Character
1 Independent Hero (Vertigo, Wildstorm, and Icon count as independent companies.)
And then two others of our choice.

So what would you do?

I put this in the comic thread but I am not sure if many people look at that so I just put it here for now. You may move it later if need be.

Thanks so much for the help.

Rayne
05-01-2008, 07:38 AM
Old, new, or any?

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 07:41 AM
It can be alive, dead, old, new, any character who was a Hero. (Or an Anti-Hero such as Batman or something along those lines.)

EDIT: If it was a form of a comic book it can also be drafted. Just need proof of the comics existence.

Rayne
05-01-2008, 07:44 AM
It can be alive, dead, old, new, any character who was a Hero. (Or an Anti-Hero such as Batman or something along those lines.)

EDIT: If it was a form of a comic book it can also be drafted. Just need proof of the comics existence.
Oh...Just heroes?...So, where would Venom stand? (I mean, you can't use him because he's not a hero?)...Cuz, that sux :p

And...Is Image Comics considered independent?

bloody_ribcut
05-01-2008, 07:48 AM
maxx
/...........

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 07:50 AM
I'm not sure if Image Comics is considered Independent. I am sure it probably is.

Venom would be a villain.

Heroes are the ones that fight crime. lol

For example: Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, The Punisher.

People like that even if they act as a vigilante they are still an Anti-Hero who is able to be drafted.

Here are the exact rules on the Draft from where I am participating in this.

Okay this is the Comic book Hero draft. Yes. HERO Draft.
That includes Anti-Heroes, from Lobo to Batman.

Sign ups:
Sign ups will be open for 48 hours, This allows anyone who wants to sign up, the opportunity to do so, Irregardless of timezones or otherwise. Once this time is over I will not be allowing any additions to the roster of players.

Drafting order:
Once Sign ups are complete, I will Randomly determine draft order by names out of a hat or some other form of receptacle.

Drafting information:
The Draft will be taking the form of the now all too familiar five round snake draft

Round 1: 1 to ??
Round 2: ?? to 1
Round 3: 1 to ??
Round 4: ?? to 1
Round 5: 1 to ??

Each drafter will have 12 hours in order to make their selections. Please I ask, do not complain or harry people if they don't draft quickly, spend the time between picks talking about the subject matter. This draft is partly about celebrate comics and getting people to check out stuff they haven't before.

Should a drafter miss a round, they only have 6 hours to make their pick in the next round. If they miss two drafts in a row, then they will be disqualified. If someone misses a round and are not disqualified then they will be able to fill the remaining positions on their team after the Fifth Round has concluded, in a 24 hour “First come, first served” Free For All.

Rules and Restrictions

Team Make up

Each team must contain:
One Marvel Hero
One DC Hero
One Independent Hero (Vertigo, Wildstorm, and Icon count as independent companies.)
any 2 others of your choice.


There can be only One
Those of you familiar with last comic draft will remember this Rule. This is the rule that states that there can only be one character with the same “Source of powers” any type in play at once. Once Someone drafts a Green Lantern no other Green Lantern can be drafted. How ever this does not exclude Ion, Alan Scott or Lanterns from the Other Corps. (Though I'm not sure the other Corps Can qualifies as Heroes. But If you can convince me... more power to you.). However if you find someone with the same power source, but a different name. For example “The Flash” and “Impulse” that is Fair Game. Now it has come up before that technically all the GL have different names, but I'm going to have to apply it in their case. (and yes, no matter what “earth” you draft Superman From, that precludes ALL superman variants.) to Quote Will in the last draft “This will force us all to think a bit harder when drafting our teams and allow us to draft teams that are truly unique.“

Which characters are eligible?
All Comic Book HEROES Are eligible. Alive, Dead.. trapped in an alternate dimension.. or even from other realities/earths. If you foresee a problem with a pick you want to make, PM me. We'll talk it out. (If you can convince me, you're good to go.) If you have a question over another players pick that has not been pre-approved, Feel free to bring it up in the thread. If it is serious enough, I will pause the clock and render a decision when possible.

There will be only I calling the shots here. I'm not playing and I'm impartial. I may consult people for advice but the ruling will ultimately be mine.

Since I am working, there are enough people in the draft that have my contact Info that I am going to make them my liaisons. If I'm not around, and a problem arises, they'll let me know.
They are Drena, Adam and Gavin. They will not render decisions instead of me, though they may communicate my choice. They are just people who can get in contact with me if the need arises.

My ruling is final. Anything else plays out in the court of popular opinion by the votes.

Manga Characters are NOT eligible for this draft.

Origin
Doesnt; matter. You wanna draft someone from Buffy? A-ok with me.
Transformers? G.I. Joe? Sure.
Seriously, as long as there has been a comic book about it - it's fair game.

Hero Status
In the last Comic draft we ran into an issue where, the DAY before someone drafted a character, a book was released that turned that character from hero to villain, so in order to circumvent that, I am placing this mandate: A characters eligibility is based on weather they are a hero or a villain on the day Sign ups begin. If the character is DEAD, Then their eligibility is based on their status at the moment of death.

After the Drafting Process
At the end of the fifth round, the teams will be complete. At that point, there will be the 24 hour Free for all period. Once that is over, everyone who wants to will have 2 days to collate anything they want to explain or promote their team, be it a book synopsis, a photo shop image or a hand drawn cartoon. After that We'll be opening voting for a week.

When Voting starts, you will vote on TWO category (and yes, in the same mail is fine)
Best overall Team your own personal preference can come into this one best theme, best character combo...
Best Story potential as I think THIS is the mark of a good comic, it is worth getting a vote on too. Basically this is the category that asks which of the teams would you most like to read a comic about.

Now I'm not going to stop people from voting for the same team in both categories, but I will remind you that Best over all team could be the team with your favorite characters on it, but the Best story team could be a story you would wanna see play out.

I will announce the top THREE teams in each category.

Prizes
I am offering NO prizes.
Zero
Ziltch
Notta.

If anyone else gets the idea to put up prizes, please, keep it to your self and send some PMs after the results are announced.

I kinda like the idea of a return to the simpler Ideals of the drafts.

Rayne
05-01-2008, 07:52 AM
Okay...These would be my choices so far:

DC - Swamp Thing

Marvel - Ghost Rider

Independent - Spawn

I'll have to do the other two in a second...I gotta...umm...well...

I have to pee

_____V_____
05-01-2008, 07:55 AM
1 Marvel Character - Frank Castle aka The Punisher.

1 DC Character - Bruce Wayne aka The Batman.

1 Independent Hero - Witchblade.

And then two others of our choice - Wolverine & Iron Man.




I d go for a realistic and gritty uber-violent thriller. That is apt to score more than any mutant-show-of-powers, or battling a larger-than-life situation/ villain.

bloody_ribcut
05-01-2008, 08:00 AM
theme : japan underground

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 08:00 AM
What kind of theme is that V?

Like "revenge" type?

Because that is a pretty sweet idea.

Maybe "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold."

With: The Punisher, Batman, Wolverine, Marv (Sin City) and someone else.

_____V_____
05-01-2008, 08:02 AM
What kind of theme is that V?

Like "revenge" type?

Because that is a pretty sweet idea.

Maybe "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold."

With: The Punisher, Batman, Wolverine, Marv (Sin City) and someone else.


Revenge would be great. Because revenge-themed flicks have been doing awesome recently.

Looking down my list, each of those heroes is pretty well-driven with a seed of vengeance in all of em...(maybe, except Witchblade).

neverending
05-01-2008, 08:05 AM
So it seems the trick is going to be picking heros nobody else has picked, so the obvious choices are out.

I was always partial to the supernatural characters- so Deadman might be a good choice. Likewise The Phantom Stranger. Both DC characters. For an independent- how bout E-Man? The Spirit would be an indie supernatural type. As Rayne suggested- Ghost Rider....

Are you getting my drift here? It's a theme- The Ghostly Brigade or something like that.

And I gave it to you instead of sending it in myself....lol...

Rayne
05-01-2008, 08:12 AM
Okay...My full list


DC - Swamp Thing

Marvel - Ghost Rider

Independent - Spawn

2 others:

Deadpool & maybe Grendel

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 08:13 AM
Yeah that is a cool idea also Neverending.

The obvious choices are not always out though because people do themes and they think the same thing about them being out early. The key is to get a good spot in the snake draft so hopefully I can get a spot in the middle so let's say I am 10 out of 20 then I would get my pick in the middle all the time instead of having to wait.

I like these two ideas so far though.

Supernatural Themed.
Revenge Themed.

We should do a draft here sometime if anyone is interested. Maybe a LIVE ACTION COMIC BOOK DRAFT OR A HORROR BASED ONE with the same kind of rules.

They have to be from a movie and you need to have one TV pick.

Rayne
05-01-2008, 08:23 AM
OH, my theme would be something horror-related

Or supernatural like Neverending said

Underworld type thing...Help from the 'other side'

The dead fight to save the living

Something like that

ferretchucker
05-01-2008, 08:25 AM
Dr. Strange
The Martian Manhunter
Bionic Woman
Nightwing
Beast

I went for a mix of intelligence with strength. Infact, if you don't use it, I might draft up a little thing like this (but not send it in) for myself.

Rayne
05-01-2008, 08:28 AM
Can you use a rogue character?

I would suggest Johnny the Homicidal Maniac

His intentions are basicly good...At least HE thinks so :)

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 08:31 AM
I am not sure Rayne I can always check.

So what do you guys think about a draft being ran here?

Horror Movie Heroes or Horror Movie Villains or it doesn't even need to be Horror we can do anything.

Live Action Hero Draft where it can be any hero from any kind of movie or it can be a villain one also.

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 08:45 AM
So what do you all think? Don't everyone speak at once.

:)

Zero
05-01-2008, 08:55 AM
interesting puzzle

one thought i had was a group of heroes whose powers all relate - in one way or another - to the soul - not sure what you might call them:

Deadman (DC)
The Spectre (DC)
Ghost Rider (Mar)
Gargoyle (MAR - bit character from The Defenders)
Spawn
(or Hellboy)
also Adam Warlock (a MAR character who had the 'soul stone')

missmacabre
05-01-2008, 08:59 AM
this is a bit of a work in progress. I havent fully thought it through.

Theme: Bhuddist Elements

DC: Obsidian (All Star Squadron, Void element. He can merge with shadows.)
Marvel: Renascence aka Wind Dancer (New Mutants, Wind element)
Independant: Liz Sherman (Hellboy, Fire element)
Your Pick: The Thing (Fantastic Four, Earth element) and Abe Sepian (Hellboy, Water element)

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 09:12 AM
These are all pretty good themes.

You are were better at this then I was because I couldn't for the life of me come up with a theme.

So again I will ask. Is anyone down for doing a draft? If we can get enough involved we can do this.

missmacabre
05-01-2008, 09:14 AM
These are all pretty good themes.

You are were better at this then I was because I couldn't for the life of me come up with a theme.

So again I will ask. Is anyone down for doing a draft? If we can get enough involved we can do this.

Well I don't quite know what that entails. if it was in the big blurb a few pages back I guess I'll read it. i thought we were just giving you ideas.

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 09:30 AM
Well you were giving me ideas but then when a handful of you showed some interest I said to myself, "Hmmm maybe we could do a kind of draft here."

Yes it's the blurb on the last page. That is how they did the rules for the Comic Draft. We can do the same type of thing but do a Movie draft or a Horror Themed draft.

Like I stated before: Horror Movie Heroes and/or Villains Draft

Five Members Per Team
Must Include One TV Show member (A villain/hero from a Horror based TV show)

You make a team, you come up with a theme, you make a story or background for your team and then the board votes on the team that was most creative.

Maybe we can put up prizes or something that goes to the winner or something or we can do it for fun. Either way.

missmacabre
05-01-2008, 09:38 AM
Well you were giving me ideas but then when a handful of you showed some interest I said to myself, "Hmmm maybe we could do a kind of draft here."

Yes it's the blurb on the last page. That is how they did the rules for the Comic Draft. We can do the same type of thing but do a Movie draft or a Horror Themed draft.

Like I stated before: Horror Movie Heroes and/or Villains Draft

Five Members Per Team
Must Include One TV Show member (A villain/hero from a Horror based TV show)

You make a team, you come up with a theme, you make a story or background for your team and then the board votes on the team that was most creative.

Maybe we can put up prizes or something that goes to the winner or something or we can do it for fun. Either way.

okay, I'd be up for that. Much less time consuming than other games on here.

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 09:48 AM
Okay so far it would be myself and you.

If we can get about 15-20 people to join up then we can do it.

So if anyone else reads this just let me know if you are interested.

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 10:04 AM
1 Marvel Character - Deadpool
1 DC Character - Ion (Aka, Kyle Rayner, Green Lanter)
1 Independent Hero - The Darkness AKa Jackie Estacado
And then two others of our choice. - Captain America, Green Arrow.



Deadpool - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool_%28comics%29
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Deadpool.png

Ion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Rayner
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Ion-20060124115140093.jpg

The Darkness - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darkness_%28comics%29
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/TheDarkness.jpg

Captain America - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_america
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Cap_america_v4.jpg

Green Arrow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Arrow
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Green_Arrow_60_cover.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Green_Arrow_60_cover.jpg


I'll make a themed list later, but thats just what I would pick for my team. Basicly i'm trying for an all around team, Deadpool is a master assassain/bounty hunter, so he is deadly in hand to hand combat, along with his use of firearms, and the fact that he has a healing factor almost as good as wolverines makes him a nice addition to the team. Ion is basicly a green lantern with more power and better control over his powers than a regular green lantern. The darkness can summon minions to do the things that he and everybody else can't do. Captain America is super strong and is a very capable leader. Green arrow is a markman, and is more accurate than a sniper, not to mention that his trick arrows can be useful in certain situations, along with his use of a Katana, and the training he had under the different assassins makes him a very nice addition also.

Yep, I am a nerd, hear me roar!

Rayne
05-01-2008, 10:12 AM
OH...I wanna change Grendel to the Darkness :p

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 10:14 AM
Damn you people! lol

No one but missmacabre has answered my new question.

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 10:23 AM
OH...I wanna change Grendel to the Darkness :p

:p Which Grendel though? Is it the futuristic lesbo grendel? Or the Hunter Rose grendel?

Rayne
05-01-2008, 10:25 AM
:p Which Grendel though? Is it the futuristic lesbo grendel? Or the Hunter Rose grendel?
Hunter Rose...But...I still like Darkness better

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 10:26 AM
Damn you people! lol

No one but missmacabre has answered my new question.

To tell you the truth I would love to have a Comic book hero draft.

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 10:27 AM
Hunter Rose...But...I still like Darkness better

=P too bad I got to him first! Oh and Deadpool is mine, I claim him. You can have that lame agent x loser.

Rayne
05-01-2008, 10:28 AM
=P too bad I got to him first! Oh and Deadpool is mine, I claim him. You can have that lame agent x loser.Sorry, but going by that, I called Deadpool WAY before you did

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 10:33 AM
Sorry, but going by that, I called Deadpool WAY before you did

Nope, sorry, Gore and I have been talking about this(on his radio show) and I allready told him that I'm getting Deadpool.



You can have Bob
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e9/BobAgentofHydra.jpg

Rayne
05-01-2008, 10:34 AM
Nope, sorry, Gore and I have been talking about this(on his radio show) and I allready told him that I'm getting Deadpool.
W/E...THIS isn't the radio show...

AND...The rest of us knew nothing about what was discussed on the radio show

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 10:36 AM
W/E...THIS isn't the radio show...

Ok, lets have have a little competition, the one with the biggest penis wins. :D

Rayne
05-01-2008, 10:36 AM
Ok, lets have have a little competition, the one with the biggest penis wins.

Fine...I knew you'd see it my way...Deadpool is mine :p

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 10:38 AM
Fine...I knew you'd see it my way...Deadpool is mine :p

God, for the life of me, I don't know if I should laugh or cry at that.

missmacabre
05-01-2008, 10:38 AM
ooh we're calling people now? can i call the Tick just for good measure?

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 10:42 AM
No one calls anyone. It is a snake draft.

1-??
??-1
1-?? and so on...(?? is the number of the final amount of people participating)

I will put everyones name in a hat to pick their order and then that is when the draft begins. You will have 12 Hours from when it is your turn to pick a character then when you pick you must PM the next person to let them know it's their turn.

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 10:51 AM
No one calls anyone. It is a snake draft.

1-??
??-1
1-?? and so on...(?? is the number of the final amount of people participating)

I will put everyones name in a hat to pick their order and then that is when the draft begins. You will have 12 Hours from when it is your turn to pick a character then when you pick you must PM the next person to let them know it's their turn.

Dude, we were just joking around.


Anyways, to whoever has read The Preacher series, would The Saint of Killers, be an anti-hero to you? I never got to finish the series, and I think somebody told me he turned out good in the end. Because I think him or Jesse Custer, or Cassidy would be great additions. Though, I head Cassidy became a bad guy.

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 11:27 AM
I wasn't sure if you guys thought you just randomly pick who you want.

Just wanted to make sure everyone was situated and knew how it worked.

So right now we have three people in. I hope this gets more people interested. I don't think we are doing a Comic draft though John I wanna do something else like a movie theme or horror theme.

Despare
05-01-2008, 11:34 AM
Blah
Screwed up...

GorePhobia
05-01-2008, 11:37 AM
Blah
Screwed up...

What do you mean?

Psycom5k
05-01-2008, 11:50 AM
What do you mean?

By not doing a comic draft

Despare
05-01-2008, 06:56 PM
What do you mean?

Meaning I randomly posted my picks without waiting for my turn because I didn't read your explanation. I'll wait my turn. Edited it so people wouldn't steal my picks!

ferretchucker
05-02-2008, 06:55 AM
I still don't fully understand how this is going to work?

GorePhobia
05-02-2008, 11:05 AM
Let's say there are 15 participants. I will draw the names out of a hat and then post their order. I will give you and example:

Person 1
Person 2
Person 3
Person 4
Person 5
Person 6
Person 7
Person 8
Person 9
Person 10
Person 11
Person 12
Person 13
Person 14
Person 15

Those are all involved and then I draft the names out of the hat to get the order they will draft in. The new order looks like this: (In parenthesis is their draft order.)

Person 7 (1)
Person 14 (2)
Person 10 (3)
Person 15 (4)
Person 2 (5)
Person 6 (6)
Person 8 (7)
Person 11 (8)
Person 3 (9)
Person 9 (10)
Person 5 (11)
Person 13 (12)
Person 1 (13)
Person 12 (14)
Person 4 (15)

That is the order they will start the draft in and the draft is a snake draft so it will be:

Round One - 1 through 15
Round Two - 15 through 1
Round Three - 1 through 15
Round Four - 15 through 1
Round Five - 1 through 15

Each round you pick one character (depending on which draft we go with) Let's say we do HORROR HEROES DRAFT.

PERSON 7 goes first and has 12 hours to deicide who he/she wants to draft (hopefully it won't take that long LOL) They then post the person, a picture of the person, their name, what movie they were from, a video link, whatever they want to show who they drafted. Here is what it would look like when they drafted the person for example:

Ladies and Gentlemen I, PERSON 7, am here to make the FIRST pick in the 2008 HDC HORROR MOVIE HERO DRAFT.

I pick a man who was just driving along the road and stumbled upon an old house.



He is a man who saw a woman in danger.



He is a man who wanted to kill those "damn" zombies!



Ladies and Gents I draft...........















BEN
(Tony Todd)
Night of the Living Dead (Remake)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkDbrOE94Ks
http://www.thefleshfarm.com/night90/night90pic32.jpg

Then PERSON 7 PMs the next person who is supposed to draft next which would be PERSON 14 and then they have 12 hours to deicide and so on and so forth untill all 5 members of your team have been drafted.

Then you have a week to come up with a short story/write up for your team on why you drafted them or have a plot for a story or something. (You can also make a video for it if you want.) Then after that week voting will begin which will last another week and you vote on who has the best team, who was most creative, ect. The winner will win a prize or something if anyone wants to put up a prize.

Understand now?

Zero
05-02-2008, 11:07 AM
Dude, we were just joking around.


Anyways, to whoever has read The Preacher series, would The Saint of Killers, be an anti-hero to you? I never got to finish the series, and I think somebody told me he turned out good in the end. Because I think him or Jesse Custer, or Cassidy would be great additions. Though, I head Cassidy became a bad guy.

you HAVE to read the ending. i actually dropped preacher for a long bit of its run - just thought it got self-indulgently gross (lost the tone and feel fo the earlier pieces and the gore/deparvity lost its shock value). but the ending is one of the greatest moments in comic history - not quite 'end of watchmen' or 'batman beats superman' but damn close

ferretchucker
05-02-2008, 12:20 PM
Okay, I'll be in.

Despare
05-02-2008, 01:43 PM
Sounds like fun, good idea.

GorePhobia
05-02-2008, 04:14 PM
Alright so now we have: Missmacabre, Psycom, Ferretchucker, Despare, and myself. If anyone else is down let me know so we can start this thing asap.

We need to vote on what kind of draft we should do.

Psycom5k
05-02-2008, 05:49 PM
you HAVE to read the ending. i actually dropped preacher for a long bit of its run - just thought it got self-indulgently gross (lost the tone and feel fo the earlier pieces and the gore/deparvity lost its shock value). but the ending is one of the greatest moments in comic history - not quite 'end of watchmen' or 'batman beats superman' but damn close

God I know, I want to get the rest of the graphic novels but I'm broke as a joke right now. My buddy who owns a comic shop is holding the rest for me but I have to pay him before I get them. Not only that but my subscriptions(a store thing, basicly he gives us a form, we write down what we want, and when it comes out, he keeps them in your own box, and you come get them when you can) are piling up. I have almost the whole run of the green arrow series, except for the stuff from about 3 or 4 months before the wedding bit. I also have the whole Deadpool series. Those two are my pride and joy. I almost have the whole cable deadpool series too, but that had way too much cable in it for me, so its not really my favorite. *looks at post* Yeah I'm going to shuttup now before this nerdgasm gets any worse.

Alright so now we have: Missmacabre, Psycom, Ferretchucker, Despare, and myself. If anyone else is down let me know so we can start this thing asap.

We need to vote on what kind of draft we should do.

If you do a comic book hero or villain draft, I believe I can get phalanx into it too.

GorePhobia
05-02-2008, 07:25 PM
Well we can take a vote I guess on what kind of draft everyone would rather do.

We still need to get more people involved.