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VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 06:31 AM
Ok, as some of you already know, I made a remix song out of a clip of SaW, that slasherman posted here awhile back. Now, I have a question:

If I acknowledge the writers, and actors and state that the movie clip is still in their ownership, can I sell the song in which I have used the movie clip? If not, how would I go about being able to sell this song? If I put it up as a *bonus track* (basically a freebie), could I sell it on a CD?
bloody_ribcut
04-03-2008, 06:48 AM
thats a good question, because i made a couple of songs using movie samples too...


i used creepshow 2 and i spit on your grave..
VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 06:49 AM
thats a good question, because i made a couple of songs using movie samples too...

Were you able to sell them?

Do you have any sort of solo project?
neverending
04-03-2008, 06:52 AM
You're going to have to get the copyright owners permission.


Don't shoot me-I'm only the messenger.
ferretchucker
04-03-2008, 06:52 AM
I had a video taken of youtube for copyright infringement.


:(
VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 06:53 AM
You're going to have to get the copyright owners permission.


Don't shoot me-I'm only the messenger.

Then how are all of these people able to put these .WAV sound clips up for download from movies, without having any problems?
VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 06:53 AM
I had a video taken of youtube for copyright infringement.


:(

That's kind of common though. Youtube sucks. 90% of what winds up on there, gets deleted anyway.
bloody_ribcut
04-03-2008, 06:55 AM
Were you able to sell them?

Do you have any sort of solo project?

i never tried to sell any.....i dont know if i could,like your wondering.

i think any project i work on is a solo one, it's just me.........
VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 06:56 AM
i never tried to sell any.....i dont know if i could,like your wondering.

i think any project i work on is a solo one, it's just me.........

Remix? :D

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Papillon Noir
04-03-2008, 06:56 AM
You can use other people's movie, clips, songs, etc only as long as you don't try to sell it for money.

If you want to sell it you need their permission, otherwise they could sue you.

Now you can take their ideas and make clips and songs yourself, you just can't copy everything word for word.
urgeok2
04-03-2008, 06:57 AM
If I acknowledge the writers, and actors and state that the movie clip is still in their ownership, can I sell the song in which I have used the movie clip? If not, how would I go about being able to sell this song? If I put it up as a *bonus track* (basically a freebie), could I sell it on a CD?



pretty sure you need legal permission.
VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 06:58 AM
pretty sure you need legal permission.

What if I'm not *Selling* it?
bloody_ribcut
04-03-2008, 06:58 AM
You're going to have to get the copyright owners permission.


Don't shoot me-I'm only the messenger.



does that still apply if the sample is sped up or slowed down?
i thought if it was changed alittle bit it was ok to use, i have a couple of friends that have movie clips in there songs and are selling them just fine.
neverending
04-03-2008, 06:59 AM
Illegal sharing of copyrighted material is rife on the internet. You asked aboyt the legalities. I've told you. Do what you will.



People never want to hear the truth.
VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 07:00 AM
does that still apply if the sample is sped up or slowed down?
i thought if it was changed alittle bit it was ok to use, i have a couple of friends that have movie clips in there songs and are selling them just fine.

Also, what happens if it isn't in quite the same order?


Simply being, I have my album finished, and want to throw it on there as a freebie to everyone who actually listens to my music. I'm not planning on selling it as an actual track all alone. It would be my music they are buying, and they'd get that song for free.
urgeok2
04-03-2008, 07:00 AM
What if I'm not *Selling* it?


i think once you record it as your own intellectual property - or whatever they call it ... (if it's made for public viewing/listening) it could still be a problem.

i know that Kevin Smith was asked to take down (on u-tube) some clips where he appeared in talk shows - he wasn't trying to sell those ..
VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 07:01 AM
Illegal sharing of copyrighted material is rife on the internet. You asked aboyt the legalities. I've told you. Do what you will.



People never want to hear the truth.

Oh no, quite the contrary, I do want the truth. My question is simply, if I am unable to sell the song, can it be put on my album as a "hidden/free track"?
_____V_____
04-03-2008, 07:02 AM
Oh no, quite the contrary, I do want the truth. My question is simply, if I am unable to sell the song, can it be put on my album as a "hidden/free track"?

Legally, no.
VampiricClown
04-03-2008, 07:03 AM
Legally, no.

Haha, then I guess I'll have to continue doing it the way I'm doing it.

:D
Papillon Noir
04-03-2008, 07:21 AM
From the US Copyright Office:

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html
The_Return
04-03-2008, 05:57 PM
Oh no, quite the contrary, I do want the truth. My question is simply, if I am unable to sell the song, can it be put on my album as a "hidden/free track"?

Artists do that kind of stuff all the time...avoiding legal issues is one of many reasons. It's still illegal to use the clip without permission...but this way, it's less likely they'll find out;) .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_track