View Full Version : Do You Vote?
Roderick Usher
02-09-2008, 08:31 AM
I can't help but notice that the polls and competitions on this site are the most heavily trafficked threads. Everyone wants their opinions to matter.
So my question to you is... do you vote in political elections?
Why?
I am seriously considering starting a horror-themed Rock the Vote campaign to get the young and disenfranchised excited about voicing their opinions in organized elections.
jaybomb
02-09-2008, 08:36 AM
why yes i do, and did this past tuesday
bwind22
02-09-2008, 08:36 AM
Yeah, I vote. If you don't , you have absolutely no right to bitch about the results.
Obama all the way.
Minnesota surprised me. I thought we'd be going with CLinton for sure, but Obama doubled her numbers here.
Posher778
02-09-2008, 08:38 AM
Well. I'm most likely going to vote in November, but the candidates I wanted all dropped (go figure).
Roderick Usher
02-09-2008, 08:48 AM
Well. I'm most likely going to vote in November, but the candidates I wanted all dropped (go figure).
the candidates are far from the most important thing on a ballot, young sir. Please go vote (for whomever you like) but more importantly, read about the OTHER items on the ballot.
The Ballot Measures and Propositions will have a more direct impact on your specific environment and your voice matters the most in these regards. Read up on them and vote informed!:D
Posher778
02-09-2008, 08:53 AM
the candidates are far from the most important thing on a ballot, young sir. Please go vote (for whomever you like) but more importantly, read about the OTHER items on the ballot.
The Ballot Measures and Propositions will have a more direct impact on your specific environment and your voice matters the most in these regards. Read up on them and vote informed!:D
Aye captain.
Roderick Usher
02-09-2008, 09:06 AM
http://www.rockthevote.com/home.php
in order to vote, one must register!
novadawn969
02-09-2008, 09:22 AM
So, because I'm to lazy to google anything right now, could you inform me who is running non-partisan?
I'm not very interested in the big boys this time around.
I'm just glad that Romney doesn't pose the threat of becoming president anytime soon.
I will even become a democrat to vote against his ass.
Sorry if I'm bursting anyone's peace bubble for saying that... Just my opinion. And I have nothing against either major party. Promise. <3
alkytrio666
02-09-2008, 09:25 AM
I turned 18 this year, and am looking forward to voting for the first time.
I do feel a bit overhwelmed, but I feel it is important.
novadawn969
02-09-2008, 09:33 AM
I turned 18 this year, and am looking forward to voting for the first time.
I do feel a bit overhwelmed, but I feel it is important.
Ditto... :(
It's hard to keep up with all these campaigns.
Roderick Usher
02-09-2008, 09:51 AM
So, because I'm to lazy to google anything right now, could you inform me who is running non-partisan?
wow
that's really fucking lazy, darling;)
There are no real non-partisan candidates, yet. I'm sure Ron Paul will run outside the Republican party and Nader is eyeing a potential run, but this year there are fewer "dissent" candidates simply because the left and centrists are going to rally behind whomever wins the Democratic nomination in order to oust the current regime.
flawed or not, that seems to be the way things are heading.
McCain has things just about sewn up for the Republican nomination, even though Huckabee posted surprisingly strong numbers in the south last week.
Angra
02-09-2008, 10:58 AM
I rarely vote.
But i'm danish, so who cares..
illdojo
02-09-2008, 11:14 AM
Yes, I do vote. I'm an Independent, and I'm voting for Ron Paul.
VampiricClown
02-09-2008, 11:28 AM
No, I don't. After seeing that our votes do not count, only the electorial college, I see no point.
And is it me, or does anyone else think it's wrong to put Obama in control, when he has the same religion as the terrorists that are fighting us?
Angra
02-09-2008, 11:46 AM
No, I don't. After seeing that our votes do not count, only the electorial college, I see no point.
And is it me, or does anyone else think it's wrong to put Obama in control, when he has the same religion as the terrorists that are fighting us?
A black man against a woman..
This is indeed an election to remember.
Look at the bright side. It can't get any worse.
Kemal
02-09-2008, 03:17 PM
I had no idea we were being attacked by protestants...
Seriously, I think he lived in a muslim country for a while which is why some people think that he's muslim.
missmacabre
02-09-2008, 03:32 PM
I always vote because I'm a good citizen. :D .......and I hate the conservative government.
Vodstok
02-09-2008, 03:38 PM
Voting is very important, but if you dont have any clue about the people running, for god's sake, stay the fuck out of the booths. Vote, but make an educated vote, dont just shoot in the dark.
Despare
02-09-2008, 07:36 PM
Yes, I vote, but recently I've found myself voting less because I want to see a certain person in office and more to keep a certain person out.
horrorobsessed
02-09-2008, 08:08 PM
i'm voting in November because right at this moment i cannot vote. i'll be able to after September though.
Psycom5k
02-10-2008, 12:36 AM
I votedc for the first time 4 years ago, and look what happened, the asshole I voted against got elected. However I do plan on voting again this year. I didn't get a chance to vote tuesday but I will make sure of it in november.
I vote, because if I don't It would be like a big fuck you to everyone before me that ever died for out country. I know it sounds kinda cheesey but thats how I feel.
VampiricClown
02-10-2008, 07:56 AM
A black man against a woman..
This is indeed an election to remember.
Look at the bright side. It can't get any worse.
I personally look at both to be a problem.
Before I say why:
I am not Racist, nor Sexist.
The problem with Obama:
One, as I've already mentioned before, he is Muslim, and has claimed to still be of that religion. And why would we want someone in (somewhat) control of our country, that could technically be on the same side as the people that we are currently at war with?
Two, there are a lot of racist people out there. Thus causing possible assassination attempts.
The problem with Hillary:
Has no one thought about the fact that other countries do not respect women? Here, we do. We are (for the majority) nice to women. In other countries, women are slaves, and are treated like crap.
Does no one think that, that could possibly create yet another war? :confused:
novadawn969
02-10-2008, 10:33 AM
I personally look at both to be a problem.
Before I say why:
I am not Racist, nor Sexist.
The problem with Obama:
One, as I've already mentioned before, he is Muslim, and has claimed to still be of that religion. And why would we want someone in (somewhat) control of our country, that could technically be on the same side as the people that we are currently at war with?
Two, there are a lot of racist people out there. Thus causing possible assassination attempts.
The problem with Hillary:
Has no one thought about the fact that other countries do not respect women? Here, we do. We are (for the majority) nice to women. In other countries, women are slaves, and are treated like crap.
Does no one think that, that could possibly create yet another war? :confused:
Ah honey... you are so misled.
But I do agree with the fact that a lot of people are.
They are racist and blind.
I work with a Muslim. Her and her family are the nicest people I've ever met.
Many people think that all Muslims abuse their women.
Not them. They treat their women better than most Caucasian fuckers.
Never assume that everyone of a certain race or religion is like the extremists.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/globalconnections/mideast/questions/women/index.html
You don't see my grandmother prosecuting protestants. :p
And just because other countries don't respect women doesn't mean we should hinder them from what we believe.
There have even been woman leaders in those countries.
Google it!
And I'm not trying to bash you Vamp... Just ignorant people in general.
Whew! I think my laziness is gone!
On to other threads!!! :D
IggysPinkTights
02-11-2008, 06:25 PM
yup...and *hopefully* going to see my candidate in May.
IggysPinkTights
02-11-2008, 06:47 PM
I personally look at both to be a problem.
Before I say why:
I am not Racist, nor Sexist.
The problem with Obama:
One, as I've already mentioned before, he is Muslim, and has claimed to still be of that religion. And why would we want someone in (somewhat) control of our country, that could technically be on the same side as the people that we are currently at war with?
Two, there are a lot of racist people out there. Thus causing possible assassination attempts.
The problem with Hillary:
Has no one thought about the fact that other countries do not respect women? Here, we do. We are (for the majority) nice to women. In other countries, women are slaves, and are treated like crap.
Does no one think that, that could possibly create yet another war? :confused:
He's a Christian and claims to be a Christian he's never once said that he was a Muslim.
He DID live in a Muslim country and attended a Muslim school for 2 years (and a Catholic one afterwards for 2 years)
He wasn't RAISED Muslim and as far as I know is not a practitioner of this faith.
Oh and just b/c there's a whole bunch of racism and sexism does not mean that we shouldn't further our country and make it equal for women and different races and I don't see our having a Hillary OR Obama as president a war making decision.
Here we have a white male that put us at war. *shrugs*
Just MHO. :)
/off soapbox
Despare
02-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Oh and just b/c there's a whole bunch of racism and sexism does not mean that we shouldn't further our country and make it equal for women and different races.
It is equal... they're running aren't they?
IggysPinkTights
02-11-2008, 07:03 PM
You are right they are ...maybe I worded that wrong....but I don't feel that they are considered equal.
If the reasoning behind not voting for someone is religion/race/sex then the pros and cons of voting/not voting for someone is not equal.
If all you see is someones skin color or the God they worship then no they aren't being considered as an equal amongst their fellow candidates.
If people don't want to vote for them so be it but I don't think that the reasons listed above should even be an issue.
If alot of people ignored all ^^^^^^^^(that) then the fact that they are of a different race and the first woman running would never be an issue.
Despare
02-11-2008, 07:08 PM
You are right they are ...maybe I worded that wrong....but I don't feel that they are considered equal.
If the reasoning behind not voting for someone is religion/race/sex then the pros and cons of voting/not voting for someone is not equal.
If all you see is someones skin color or the God they worship then no they aren't being considered as an equal amongst their fellow candidates.
If people don't want to vote for them so be it but I don't think that the reasons listed above should even be an issue.
If alot of people ignored all ^^^^^^^^(that) then the fact that they are of a different race and the first woman running would never be an issue.
If you want a person who upholds your values and ideals then you should take religion into consideration. I'm sorry but that's a valid attribute to look for in a candidate. Now I don't think race or sex should be an issue but you have to take into account that a lot voters probably find it easier to relate to people of their sex/race which can easily sway a vote or hundred. Anyway, like I said, religion can be important when looking for somebody to vote for and I find nothing wrong with that.
By the by, that's the beauty of freedom, we're allowed accept or be prejudice against anything we want for any reason. What a wonderful woooooooorld...
http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/8/88/Rowlf-puppy.jpg
IggysPinkTights
02-11-2008, 07:11 PM
Well that's your opinion that you have every right to have I choose to disagree.:)
BUT in this case if someone is worried about Obama b/c of him being Muslim...he's NOT. :p
Despare
02-11-2008, 07:14 PM
Well that's your opinion that you have every right to have I choose to disagree.:)
BUT in this case if someone is worried about Obama b/c of him being Muslim...he's NOT. :p
You disagree that people should vote for a candidate based on what they believe? That's such an important part of a person, their faith and their convictions (or lack of). I think it's a very important part of who a person really is although I would vote for my favorite candidate even if he or she worshiped Ra, as long as I thought they would do a good job.
IggysPinkTights
02-11-2008, 07:16 PM
You disagree that people should vote for a candidate based on what they believe? That's such an important part of a person, their faith and their convictions (or lack of). I think it's a very important part of who a person really is although I would vote for my favorite candidate even if he or she worshiped Ra, as long as I thought they would do a good job.
THAT'S what I think too.
Despare
02-11-2008, 07:22 PM
THAT'S what I think too.
Well that was anti-climatic, not enough arguing 'tall.
IggysPinkTights
02-11-2008, 07:23 PM
I'll try harder next time lol.
Roderick Usher
02-11-2008, 08:09 PM
I'm so pleased to see such a spirited debate over this issue. And I'm happy that you are all so passionate about your voting right/privilege/duty.
I now challenge all of you...
Ask your friends if they vote...challenge them to vote.
It doesn't matter what their political affiliation is, what matters is that they vote, that they take the very small amount of time out of their lives to simply read up on the issues and make a semi-informed decision.
If politicians see that people actually feel like the majority of the population is voting, they might just start thinking about the citizens as their constituency instead of only listening to the special interests.
Spread the word!
VOTE!!!!!
_____V_____
02-11-2008, 08:29 PM
No, I don't vote.
For the simple reason that my opinion, as a voter, doesn't count. And I refuse to go by popularity or ballot or polls...because then I would be walking with the crowd, not as a separate identity.
Despare
02-11-2008, 08:37 PM
No, I don't vote.
For the simple reason that my opinion, as a voter, doesn't count. And I refuse to go by popularity or ballot or polls...because then I would be walking with the crowd, not as a separate identity.
I hope you don't complain about any certain politician then. ;)
_____V_____
02-11-2008, 09:09 PM
I hope you don't complain about any certain politician then. ;)
Nope.
Even if they win, they dont run the country anyway. Congress runs it, and their priority is their pockets. Look whats been happening the past 10 years or so.:rolleyes:
Despare
02-12-2008, 02:58 AM
Nope.
Even if they win, they dont run the country anyway. Congress runs it, and their priority is their pockets. Look whats been happening the past 10 years or so.:rolleyes:
It's been a LOT more than 10 years but I guess that's why I vote. The small hope that the people I vote for, the people who I think will run the country instead of whoring it out to the highest bidder, is enough to keep me at the polls.
boxcutter
02-12-2008, 03:32 AM
Libertarians HAVE to vote just to keep the party on the ballot. I'd vote for the freaking communist party if I thought I could help to shake up our government's supremacist complacency.
bloody_ribcut
02-12-2008, 05:21 AM
no, i dont vote. im an illegal alien.lol
j/p
ChronoGrl
02-12-2008, 05:44 AM
The problem with Obama:
One, as I've already mentioned before, he is Muslim, and has claimed to still be of that religion. And why would we want someone in (somewhat) control of our country, that could technically be on the same side as the people that we are currently at war with?
sigh
This was an internet rumor started by a bogus email campaign.
Examples of the bogus emails can be found here (http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm).
Edit: Or, if you're skeptical about about.com, here is a related article on CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/).
...
And as I've already ranted, I feel as though voting in the general election my vote doesn't matter because I come from a liberal state (due to the electoral college system; it's not the populous, it's the STATE that matters when determining winning - Just look at the Bust/Gore fiasco). As for primaries and local elections, yes, I do feel as though it's important to vote because it's there more than anywhere else that your vote counts.
Oh, and if you're from a swing state. In that rare case, you might actually be able to make a difference.
stubbornforgey
02-12-2008, 03:30 PM
Here in NZ ..i dont have any choice but to vote cos usually em a scrutineer so basically ..we are the almost the 1st to bunch of morons who put our ballots in the boxy thingy.