Why do some people think MICHAEL MYERS is god . .?

[Freddy#1Slasher]

Ok not to bash all the Halloween fans out there, but don't you think you overrate Michael Myers' abilities just a little bit? I mean his movies are awesome and his kills are alright, but I see some of you being very generous towards him in Head-to-Head matches with other "horror icons."

I see some people comparing Myers to the likes of Freddy, Jason, and Pinhead which is alright if you want to compare them with the way they kill "PEOPLE." But if you want to compare them against eachother, there is NO QUESTION Myers would get OWNED.

Let's put him against Jason . . .
Seriously, is this a joke? Jason is the TOWER of POWER!! 6'7 275lbs. Myers is like 6'0 185lbs and is the same type of killer as Jason and LACKS the psychic powers and speed of Freddy and Pinhead. Butcher knife head to head with Machete. Not only is Jason's weapon bigger, but he is stronger, can take alot more hits, and is just too damn big. Jason would literally own him.

Freddy Krueger next?
Myers has NO CHANCE. Myers don't sleep ehh? Well when he is knocked out or caught sleeping he is in trouble. The only way Michael fights Freddy is if he sleeps and if he does Myers is not smart, quick, and powerful enough to overcome Freddy in the dream. Also, if they fought in the real world Freddy would win. Freddy was MELEE'ing with JASON who is bigger and better than Myers. If he could take Jason, he can take Myers with ease.

Pinhead . . .
Huge Mismatch. Pinhead would have his soul for breakfast.

Myers is a GREAT serial killer, but when it comes to him vs. other horror icons, he does not fair well.

I just thought I should tell some of you "dillusional" Myers fans.:p

[avenger00soul]

Why does he have to fight the other icons? Why can't they all just get along? Why can't we forget about this vs. stuff? Damn Freddy Vs. Jason...damn it to hell.:)

It's all opinionated anyway dude.

[Sam The Egg]

I refuse to argue a point like this with someone who has THAT screen name

[_Leatha_Face_]

myers isnt quick like freddy or strong as jason but he does have the element of suprise

[Sam The Egg]

exactly. Jason just lumbers in and kills you. Michael was in the room the whole time

[mudsliptones]

well, it is true that myers sounds like the weakest, but remember this, myers is pure evil, he's not a demon like freddy and jason (after part 5) or pinhead, he's a normal man, driven by hatred and evil
that makes him cool, we could do the shit he did, we can never ever do something jason does, or pinhead, or freddy
so that what majkes myers pretty cool, he could be out there, not that strong or fast as in the movies, but there are such people

[Sam The Egg]

plus, Michael was the first. He will always have that over the other ones. Unless F13 part 11 is Jason in a TIME MACHINE. I can see it now... *Photo montage of Jason killing samurai in feudal Japan, killing Marylin Monroe, making the dinosaurs extinct and having a climactic battle on top of a pyramid, or maybe a ziggurat.*

[massacre man]

how dare u take the name of michael myers in vain he shall curse u lol just kiddin mikes da best michael created all other horror if it wasnt for mike there would be no
jason
freddy
pinhead
chucky
he made slashers famous

[Ttdog412]

i saying this as a myersfan 1st. His walk,mask and just the plain mechanical way he movesis awesome. like all of the candidates. but myers would rule be logical hes not 2 far from jason as far as physicallity but beter cuz he can outsmart jasn. jason like anoher memeber said just lumbers around. Freedy te only way he could get mikey is in his dreams..and yes im sure mikey sleeps but mike wuld rle. As far as pinhead that be hard pin head kicks ass period. But mikey would havethe drive to kep him going. like another memeer said hes not a demon hes human with hate and psychotic mental state to drive him thats just plain cool man. i likeall the oters especially freddcuz hes diff funt o watch but face it myers is the man hes all around cool. thats why freddy is cool. plus he didnt come out wth a crappy Hlloween X michael in space now dd he

[Ttdog412]

"thats why freddy is the best" I ment Michael

[Ttdog412]

Also massacre man is rght Michael is the first REAL slashe tha was good not taking awa from leather face but MIKE is ok NOW i done

[Sam The Egg]

my God...

[Ritualistic]

VS. shit is getting very old and stained with last years shity movies.. anywayz who cares .. they are all made up characters....

[Freddy#1Slasher]

What are you talking about, TTdog?

You are saying that even if Mike sleeps he will still rule Freddy? Are you fukcing kidding me with that sh!t. Freddy would FUKCING OWN his little soul. Even in the real world, Freddy whips his ass.

As far as Jason the match would be over with a snap of a finger.

[Digital Murders]

Mike is the original. Jason basically spawned from him.

But your right, he has no chance against Freddy.

Note: I just read the first post, not the others, so if I'm missing something..whatever.:o

[Sam The Egg]

Michael's not the type to be brought down to the level of these VS. things

[Digital Murders]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Michael's not the type to be brought down to the level of these VS. things

I hear that.

[crazy clown]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Michael's not the type to be brought down to the level of these VS. things

this is true. mike is not my favorite slasher, but i could never see mike v some random slasher.

[MichaelMyers]

Wouldn't Michael have to be asleep to be hurt my Jason? Who's to say he sleeps?

[avenger00soul]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Wouldn't Michael have to be asleep to be hurt my Jason? Who's to say he sleeps?

You mean Freddy don't you?

[KRUGERKID13]

First off leatherface is the original slasher.
Second off and dont get me wrong because i absoloutly love Michael but Freddy is the ultimate bad guy and could kick Michaels a$$.

[_Leatha_Face_]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Michael's not the type to be brought down to the level of these VS. things lol basically saying that to keep freddy and jason alive in the horror industry they had to make this movie i like that

[Digital Murders]

Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
First off leatherface is the original slasher.


He's not a slasher.

More of a hacker.;)

[Sam The Egg]

TCM was a totally different style of movie than Halloween and all the others. TCM is closer in style to the revenge horror sub-genre, only without the revenge.

[Leslie Daher]

right when fvj was released there was a magazine that was dedicated to the film, the making of it..toward the end of it it hints that whoever the winner is (was) of fvj that michael would take on the winner....ugh! i have NEVER been for the vs movie b/c it takes away from original ideas...freddy is great, no question....jason is sub par to the other biggies but i'd pick him over pinhead even though as it has been clearly stated that he's a lumbering retard...michael is superior to them all IMO. he's clever and scary. not knowing what he's really thinking is scary. i do not think he's "god" but if there could be one in the horror genre world it would be him! there are not enough ways to count how perfect he is.

[Leslie Daher]

AND secondly, LEATHERFACE was not the first "slasher"
i've already been over this before..you gotta go back just a bit further to
LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT....that's when the infamous chainsaw makes it's first appearance and thus ushers the way for the genre. freddy is my second fav if i have to choose but michael is still the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREDDY WAS KILLED and Michael just can't be.....hmmm, who's better?

[Sam The Egg]

this is true. Freddy was killed, it's part of his lore. But Michael never was.

[_Leatha_Face_]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
this is true. Freddy was killed, it's part of his lore. But Michael never was. so if michael was never killed than this means he can be killed some way??

[Sam The Egg]

no, it means Freddy was able to be killed, Michael wasn't.

[_Leatha_Face_]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
no, it means Freddy was able to be killed, Michael wasn't. freddy was just a regular killer b 4 he was killed

[Sam The Egg]

And now he has supernatural powers. Michael never had that, but he was unkillable nonetheless.

[_Leatha_Face_]

ive always wondered what that tatoo or sign ment?

[avenger00soul]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
And now he has supernatural powers. Michael never had that, but he was unkillable nonetheless.

So by that thinking, if Michael IS ever killed, maybe he will come back with supernatural powers???

I've got nothing.

[_Leatha_Face_]

Originally posted by avenger00soul
So by that thinking, if Michael IS ever killed, maybe he will come back with supernatural powers???

I've got nothing. he already has the strength of a bull

[Sam The Egg]

Michael is more unkillable than Freddy because he's unkillable on his own.
Of course, we could bring in the cult from part 6, but by that thinking we'd have to bring up how Jason could only be killed by having a family member destroy his heart by stabbing it with a special dagger, and he even survived that. So lets just ignore the cult

[avenger00soul]

Originally posted by _Leatha_Face_
he already has the strength of a bull

So just imagine how strong he will be when he's killed off and comes back from beyond the grave.

[_Leatha_Face_]

Originally posted by avenger00soul
So just imagine how strong he will be when he's killed off and comes back from beyond the grave. now were talking myers vs jason lol

[Ultimamk]

First off, I loved FvsJ but more vs movies would kill the genre (with the possible exception of FvsJ2).

Second, Myers is the top of the line! He's my favorite type of serial killer (no, I'm not a fan of murder), a psychotic human genius! He's probably smarter then Freddy and could stalk Jason plus atleast irritate Pinhead. He's #1!

[Sam The Egg]

and is, as I've said, above this Vs. stuff

[ErikLensherr82]

Leatherface the first slasher? LOL Um ok kids, have any one of you ever heard of the name Norman Bates?? Thought so....;)

First and foremost, Michael Myers is the reason Jason Voorhees is alive and popular. He is Jason's daddy. Even the creators of the first 4 Fridays admit they ripped off Michael.

I would love to see a Jason vs Michael movie, but then again I wouldn't. Its like someone mentioned why does Mike have to lower himself to these vs movies? After 8 movies (and not one flopped unless you count H3) of making profits and 2 Jason movies flopping, Mike is still the champion.

As far as Mike matching up with strength against Jason? Have you guys ever read the race between the Hair and the Turtle? Have you ever heard of BRAINS vs STRENGTH stories? Michael is 100 times smarter than Jason. He might not match up strength wise, but someone who crushes heads with ease with both hands is not a wuss. ;)

Even if we did see a Michael vs Jason movie, Michael would not get "owned" by Jason. They would have a close fight to satisfy both fan bases.

Anyways, thats my 2 cents :D

[Sam The Egg]

Psycho wasn't a slasher. He killed 2 people.

[massacre man]

id say it might go like this... (in my opinion) (opinion is a big word)
michael and jason would stare at eachother jason would get the first hit stabbing michael in the stomach with the machete michael falls jason goes to pull it out michael quickly grabs the machete and swings it at jason jason falls on the ground with the machete in his head michael pulls it out and chops off his head jason swings at michael knocking him down michael gets back up and jasons body and head are gone

just kidding about the ending head and body gone i cant think of a good one

[crazy clown]

when did they adnit to ripping off michael??

[Ultimamk]

Originally posted by ErikLensherr82
Leatherface the first slasher? LOL Um ok kids, have any one of you ever heard of the name Norman Bates?? Thought so....;)

First and foremost, Michael Myers is the reason Jason Voorhees is alive and popular. He is Jason's daddy. Even the creators of the first 4 Fridays admit they ripped off Michael.

I would love to see a Jason vs Michael movie, but then again I wouldn't. Its like someone mentioned why does Mike have to lower himself to these vs movies? After 8 movies (and not one flopped unless you count H3) of making profits and 2 Jason movies flopping, Mike is still the champion.

As far as Mike matching up with strength against Jason? Have you guys ever read the race between the Hair and the Turtle? Have you ever heard of BRAINS vs STRENGTH stories? Michael is 100 times smarter than Jason. He might not match up strength wise, but someone who crushes heads with ease with both hands is not a wuss. ;)

Even if we did see a Michael vs Jason movie, Michael would not get "owned" by Jason. They would have a close fight to satisfy both fan bases.

Anyways, thats my 2 cents :D

I agree completely, though I can't say I think of Norman as a slasher...

[ErikLensherr82]

I would have to disagree on Psycho not being a slasher film. The only difference between Scream and Psycho (slasher speaking-wise) is Ghostface wore a mask.

Psycho is a lot more realstic than most of the slashers out today (Halloween, Friday 13th, TCM, etc).
But the creator of Halloween, Carpenter, said most of Halloween was a tribute or homage, or ideas borrowed from Psycho because its one of his favorite films.

Psycho> inspires slasher HALLOWEEN> Friday the 13th>Scream>etc...

Even the media considers Psycho the first slasher. Here is an article on that:


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THE SELECTIVE HISTORY OF THE SLASHER FILM

Only in the past decade has the slasher film directed towards innovative trends, violating, for the first time, conventions and mechanisms reused in an uncountable number of films. The slasher film is one of the most structured and concrete film genres.

Recently and particularly the genre has employed post-modernist detachment. This is a particularly laudable diversion, as it occurs in a genre of films known for their similarity. It is evident in two films: The Silence of the Lambs and Scream. The latter preyed on the popular trends of the slasher film genre that went unacknowledged in the entirety of its duration. (Though Scream is the most popular example of this, it was preceded by Wes Craven’s own New Nightmare.) The trick is this: Scream is a slasher film, though in drawing attention to its type it emerges, in some way, as innovative. It is self-aware and -referential, yet is purposefully derivative (and knowledge of the slasher genre will grant the inconsistencies of Scream: foremost, slasher killers have no identity).

The Silence of the Lambs offers one of the most detached perspectives of the slasher film. Firstly, the killer, Hannibal Lector, is not only known but he is studied (this is contrary to established notions of Lector as antihero). But notice the parts of the film that coalesce with slasher methodology: the female survivalist, the sexuality of the crimes; even Lector’s muzzle, only seen briefly in the film, has become a staple method of identifying him. He is not only a horror icon, like other slasher killers, but one of the most recognized.

The final and least laudable trait of the slasher film is its propensity to generate sequels (for measure, the five films mentioned in this article have spawned a combined 18 sequels). Because slasher killers are inhumanly durable, their deaths are never legitimately final.

Slasher films, however derivative and thematically impotent, are generated from a handful of critical successes. The cornerstones of the slasher genre are detailed below.

Psycho

Psycho opens with the caption “Pheonix, Arizona … Friday, December the Eleventh … Two Forty-Three PM.” In this – the first slasher film – the specificity of location lends the film a truth. This convention functions to make otherwise clichéd horror mechanisms seem real, as they are given a ridiculously specific context.


http://www.notcoming.com/features/slasherhistory.html

[Sam The Egg]

yeah, well, the media is wrong. Psycho is not a slasher, it doesn't deal with someone going around killing people. It relies on
a) Norman trying to cover up what his mother has done
b) Sam and The sister trying to find Marion

Movies like And Then There Were None are closer to the slasher genre than Psycho