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moonsorrow

01-15-2004, 11:56 AM

i am officialy pissed, im pissed of... dont know if this exists in america but i just saw a comercial for a cd witch title i cannot remember...it was something rock... included songs from among other sins of thy beloved, entombed and in flames... is metal getting popular all of a sudden? am i about to become a majority?
any thoughts on this god damned cursed cd?
in the mean time il need a few rounds on my punching bag...

BAAAH!!!!

avenger00soul

01-15-2004, 12:00 PM

I wouldn't worry about it getting exceedingly popular. I imagine I will NEVER hear Entombed on the radio here. Just don't see it happening.

moonsorrow

01-15-2004, 12:03 PM

its a comercial dammit..... do you have any idea how manny people are weak enough to fall for a good comercial?
i dont see it getting realy popular but its on its way up and its pissing me of...first satyricon...then dimmu....now nightwish...whats next?

avenger00soul

01-15-2004, 12:10 PM

Of course it's on its way up. Your country and surrounding area happens to be home of the metal gods right now. As Atom and His Package says "All they do for fun is kill each other and play guitar." Hehe, funny song. You can only keep a band in your back pocket for so long. This has happened to many of the bands I love. You just can't help. If their truly a great band, they probably will find a larger audience.

Still won't hear them on the radio around here though. Maybe in bigger cities.

I feel your pain Moon.

moonsorrow

01-15-2004, 12:13 PM

this is a guitar shaped country for a reasons, the norwegians finns and sweeds are the metal countrys but i wasnt expecting demi gods like sins of thy beloved to be on a comercialised cd...not even a woman can cause this much pain.

avenger00soul

01-15-2004, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by moonsorrow
not even a woman can cause this much pain.

Hahaha.

I try my best to ignore it when my tunes are being commercialized. It's sad for me b/c the same people who listen to Sum 41 and Good Charlotte are now listening to AFI. Can't win them all.

mudsliptones

01-15-2004, 01:14 PM

yes, it's true
its beginning to get popular
after bands like sorry to say, linkin park who got famous with their one step closer song it set the wheel in motion
bands like children of bodom get more popular, these people mostly like the new stuff only, so, lol, just think that through for yourself

it's like, damn dude, metallicas new album is so good, but i don't like the old albums, you get that shit

for the record, i love old metallica, so

Digital Murders

01-15-2004, 03:02 PM

I've seen tons of great compilation cds that I've bought that has metal on it.

But here in the US, there aren't any commercials for them. Atleast I haven't seen one.

Plus over where you live, it's probably expected since you guys have the best music around.

moonsorrow

01-16-2004, 01:50 AM

the day old mans child and sirenia apear in comercials im going to cut my own heart out with a spoon...a rusty one.

mudsliptones

01-16-2004, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by moonsorrow
the day old mans child and sirenia apear in comercials im going to cut my own heart out with a spoon...a rusty one.

I saw a commercial with sirenia
nah, just wanted to see that spoon thing:D

moonsorrow

01-16-2004, 03:01 AM

oy! you almost got me killed you...mudsliptones...whatever the heck that is...

Sam The Egg

01-21-2004, 02:13 PM

awww, are people liking the same bands as you now? Too bad nobody fucking cares.

Digital Murders

01-21-2004, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
awww, are people liking the same bands as you now? Too bad nobody fucking cares.

Well what you don't understand is that when that happens and the good underground stuff get's mainstream....it gets to bands...making them produce shittier albums.

Take a look at In Flames and Cradle Of Filth...well DaaD was alright, but not as good as their older stuff.

Sam The Egg

01-21-2004, 02:48 PM

If they have so little character or intelligence that they would change their music to piss off the older fans, only to realize that the people who didn't like their music before won't listen to them now, then fuck 'em, they aren't worth supporting anyways.

But then, who am I to talk? Most of my favorite bands are either dead, retired or...Pink Floyd and Aerosmith.

Arioch

01-21-2004, 02:51 PM

Pink Floyd Owns!

Sam The Egg

01-21-2004, 03:18 PM

but, they're popular, that means they CAN'T be good!:rolleyes:

bloodygurl02

01-21-2004, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by mudsliptones
yes, it's true
its beginning to get popular
after bands like sorry to say, linkin park who got famous with their one step closer song it set the wheel in motion
bands like children of bodom get more popular, these people mostly like the new stuff only, so, lol, just think that through for yourself

it's like, damn dude, metallicas new album is so good, but i don't like the old albums, you get that shit

for the record, i love old metallica, so

i like older metallica better then the junk on saint anger. i even tryed to stop my brother from buying it. i gotin to metallica cuz of my brother being a big metallica fan. i like the songs enter sand man and one.

mudsliptones

01-22-2004, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by bloodygurl02
i like older metallica better then the junk on saint anger. i even tryed to stop my brother from buying it. i gotin to metallica cuz of my brother being a big metallica fan. i like the songs enter sand man and one.

I also don't like the new shit, I was saying how people who don't know the old metallica would react

like you first hear st anger, cause of rising popularity on the radios and tv
then you think, they are good, I want to hear more of them, and you buy ride the lighting, these people would say that it sucks,
but it doesn't, thats my point

Killer Clown#1

01-22-2004, 03:24 AM

Korn is pretty popular but that did not stop them from putting out kick ass albums, Take a look in the mirrior truly rocks, and they even make a song about how the record companys wan't them to be maistream so in the song they say "fuck that" about 100 times to mock them.:D

mictlan

01-22-2004, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by Arioch
Pink Floyd Owns!

Pink Floyd was great before David Gilmour was in the band.

moonsorrow

01-22-2004, 09:36 AM

david gilmore didnt do such a bad job...they were better off before though

Digital Murders

01-22-2004, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by mictlan
Pink Floyd was great before David Gilmour was in the band.

I third that opinion.

Sam The Egg

01-22-2004, 12:51 PM

They peaked with The Wall. Wish You Were Here was almost as good, but the Shine On You Crazy Diamons songs kinda dragged a bit. They just weren't the same without Roger Waters.

The Evil Dead

01-28-2004, 08:11 AM

Who cares if metal becomes the majority? I'd be greatful if people would finally start listening to good music instead of some of the trash that's been coming out lately.

Hell, I think everyone should listen to bands like In Flames. They're masters of their craft.

Sam The Egg

01-28-2004, 06:51 PM

Ya know what should get popular? Boom Town Rats. I Don't Like Mondays was a great song. I'd much rather here it all over the place than Outkast's "Hey Now" song

Evisceration

01-28-2004, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by The Evil Dead
Who cares if metal becomes the majority? I'd be greatful if people would finally start listening to good music instead of some of the trash that's been coming out lately.

Hell, I think everyone should listen to bands like In Flames. They're masters of their craft.

Remember the 80's? Yeah, Metal well bottomout again, which would suck.

Rotting Eye

01-28-2004, 07:04 PM

I'm with Sam. Old bands are good. Too bad music like that will probably never make any sort of a comeback.

All sorts of music are going downhill.. Mainly pop. And if metal ever becomes pop, you can be sure it'll go downhill as well.

Oh, and fuck Linkin Park. They rank somewhere between Blink 182 and Good Charlotte. Bunch of pansy asses if I ever seen some. Gag me with a spoon.

The Evil Dead

01-28-2004, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Evisceration
Remember the 80's? Yeah, Metal well bottomout again, which would suck.

There's a difference between mainstream metal, such as nu metal ( which is basically the hair metal of today. ), and real metal... If real metal got popular, I honestly wouldn't have a problem with it. There's already a pretty damn good sized underground following, and I don't think it would hurt if it got a bit larger. We'd be able to see a lot more bands who would be able to get on lables because of the booming business, so that could be a good thing.

I don't think it'll turn out like the eighties. That'd be odd.

moonsorrow

01-29-2004, 02:56 AM

it was on the top seller list in freerecrodshop in oslo.... in flames... the sins of thy beloved, children of bodom... anyone who knows his/her metal knows thats real metal... it simpley shouldnt be on a top seller list, who came up with the idea of squeezing real metal on a cd and comercialise it?

Arioch

01-29-2004, 03:06 AM

And if metal ever becomes pop, you can be sure it'll go downhill as well.

Sorry its already happened:
Linkin Park

For the record, i think its just about the most bullshit thing in the world.

The Evil Dead

01-29-2004, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by moonsorrow
it was on the top seller list in freerecrodshop in oslo.... in flames... the sins of thy beloved, children of bodom... anyone who knows his/her metal knows thats real metal... it simpley shouldnt be on a top seller list, who came up with the idea of squeezing real metal on a cd and comercialise it?

That's a ridiculous statement... You're upset because GOOD metal bands are top sellers? I'd say that's a damn good thing. This insures that the bands WILL be sticking around because they're making the money they deserve. What results is better production, better tours, and nothing that could be seen as a bad result.

Don't do that " I'm so metal and underground it hurts " thing man... I love metal to death, and to see bands like In Flames and CoB hit the bigtime is cool with me.

moonsorrow

01-29-2004, 11:04 AM

trash my views all you want it wont change them, it shouldnt be on any fucking comercial, it doesnt have any place there, i dont mind it being liked, but the whole world shouldnt have it stuffed in its face like some god damn nsync album.

ProjectMayhem

01-29-2004, 12:44 PM

Two words,

Who cares?

buddy

01-29-2004, 01:06 PM

well obviously moonsorrow does! i must admit to pangs of regret when a band i held as a special secret became big (the verve's first two records and two eps were interstellar, then the bag of sh*t that is 'urban hymns' got mainstream).. there's no doubt that a transformation sometimes occurs and the music *can* get watered down as it is projected to a larger audience. age'll also do this to you, a sort've inevitable drift as you get older.. look at early sabbath vs. the ballads of 80s ozzy as an example!

all that said, we shouldn't begrudge our favorites any success. they're the same as us, just after a more comfortable life, trying to get paid for doing something they love. that's very bloody difficult in the music biz. if you became a successful musician, how would you feel if an irritated fan approached you with the comment, 'oh i wish you'd stayed underground.' you'd be like, 'f*ck off pal, i've earned this or been extremely lucky, or both, and i'm gonna enjoy it!' well, i guess i would anyway! how gracious of me..!

AND even if your favorite band 'makes it,' there will always be an underground. it's sorta like shark teeth..

i know next to nothing about scandanavian metal but have heard of 'emperor' and 'cirkle' being pretty formiddable, though the latter could hardly be considered straight metal (far from it)

moonsorrow

01-29-2004, 01:09 PM

buddys says it best, thats exactley what im talking about... what if the sins of thy beloved starts adapting its style the a wider audience? i mean shit cutting back on the crazy violins... would be wrong, it would just be wrong.

Satanic~Heaven

01-29-2004, 01:30 PM

Pink Floyd Owns!
Pink Floyd are highly overrated imo...
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well here in québec its still fucking nu-metal that is always on TV!
if its not nu-metal its punk or rap!they dont even show Iron Maiden.And when metallica were real metal they were never on tv but now that they do nu-metal they show them every hours!!!

Sam The Egg

01-29-2004, 01:52 PM

*Marks @ Project Mayhem's Av*

Hair metal wasn't so bad...except for Ratt

ProjectMayhem

01-30-2004, 09:24 AM

Buddy said it well.

At the end of the day it's not as if Metallica is at number one. And if they were so what?

On the other hand if a band changes it's ethics/style simply for money then it's wrong, but hwo's to blame them?

At the end of the day they're humans and they can do what the fuck they like. Except murder and rape etc.

The Evil Dead

01-31-2004, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by moonsorrow
trash my views all you want it wont change them, it shouldnt be on any fucking comercial, it doesnt have any place there, i dont mind it being liked, but the whole world shouldnt have it stuffed in its face like some god damn nsync album.

Lol... You're too underground for your own good. The bands are out there trying to make a living, just like any other band out there. No one strictly does it " for the music " there are ALWAYS ulterior motives.

buddy

01-31-2004, 12:24 PM

hey i got a bit peed-off recently when i heard ween's 'ocean man' on a car commercial. i mean, i guess they've been trying to do tongue in cheek ad music for a while.. they had a pizza hut jingle rejected that went 'where'd the m*therf*ckin' cheese go?'

Evisceration

01-31-2004, 06:46 PM

......I saw a commercial for a some motorcycle on TV, and they used part of ...And Oceans 'New Model World'......

I was shocked.

moonsorrow

01-31-2004, 06:59 PM

is it realy so bad trying not to be like everybody else? do i have to be heartless, mindless and verry obediant? anyone have a problem with me being a little underground?

kpropain

02-01-2004, 05:29 PM

Diesel Machine, Pissing Razors, Skinlab, Crowbar, Eyehategod, and of course Pro-Pain, now this is real fucking metal. If you haven't heard any of them do yourself a favor and check any of these bands out.

The Evil Dead

02-01-2004, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by kpropain
Diesel Machine, Pissing Razors, Skinlab, Crowbar, Eyehategod, and of course Pro-Pain, now this is real fucking metal.

Err... It's somewhat real metal. I wouldn't qualify Skinlab as nothing more than random annoying noise. Crowbar is decent though.

Originally posted by moonsorrow
is it realy so bad trying not to be like everybody else? do i have to be heartless, mindless and verry obediant? anyone have a problem with me being a little underground?

I don't have a problem with you being yourself... Why would you have to try to do that?

Be as underground as you want as well, but why worry when a band is making money? So long as they're still delivering good tunes, then what does it matter?

moonsorrow

02-02-2004, 02:29 AM

its the principle... bah, you have to understand me to understand what i mean and thatl take a cuple years of edjucation. you just cant have an avrage person running around sound of noise looking for the sins of thy beloved

The Evil Dead

02-02-2004, 08:07 AM

I don't think it would take any education to understand you man... I've been a metalhead for years and have met those that freak out because their favorite bands are actually going somewhere with their careers... I just can't understand why, so long as that band is still doing what they want to do instead of listening to some record label.

moonsorrow

02-02-2004, 11:22 AM

thats exactley my point, i loved nightwish, paradise lost and within temptation long before they started apearing on mtv and comercials and i still love them, but this time they made a fucking mc music version of metal...REAL metal and put in in a fucking comercial... you see where im going with this?