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pinkfloyd45769

10-14-2007, 09:41 AM

month one.
hi mommy, i am only 8 inches long
but I have all my organs.
i love the sound of your voice.
every time I hear it
i wave my arms and legs.
the sound of your heart beat
is my favorite lullaby.

month two.
mommy, today I learned how to suck my thumb.
if you could see me
you could definitely tell that I am a baby.
i'm not big enough to survive outside my home though.
it is so nice and warm in here.

month three.
you know what mommy, i'm a girl.
i hope that makes you happy.
i always want you to be happy.
i don't like it when you cry.
you sound so sad.
it makes me sad too
and I cry with you even though
you can't hear me.

month four.
mommy, my hair is starting to grow.
it is very short and fine
but I will have a lot of it.
i spend a lot of my time exercising.
i can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes
and stretch my arms and legs.
i am becoming quite good at it too.

month five.
you went to the doctor today.
mommy, he lied to you.
he said that i'm not a baby.
i am a baby mommy, your baby.
i think and feel.
mommy, what's abortion.

month six.
i can hear that doctor again.
i don't like him.
he seems cold and heartless.
something is intruding my home.
the doctor called it a needle.
mommy what is it. It burns.
please make him stop.
i can't get away from it.
mommy. help me.

month seven.
mommy, i am okay.
i am in jesus's arms now.
he is holding me.
he told me about abortion.
why didn't you want me mommy.

every abortion is just . . .
one more heart that was stopped.
two more eyes that will never see.
two more hands that will never touch.
two more legs that will never run.
one more mouth that will never speak.

if you're against abortion, post this

Marya Zaleska

10-14-2007, 09:49 AM

I am pro life all the way!

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/buckybeau/LouisGreerAsGrannyLou2-2.jpg

Countess Marya!

AUSTIN316426808

10-14-2007, 09:50 AM

Goddamn that's harsh.

pinkfloyd45769

10-14-2007, 09:52 AM

My uncle sent me this and i have just been crying my eyes out. I hate this world we live in!

Freak

10-14-2007, 10:10 AM

That's pretty messed up.I hope I don't offend anybody by saying that I'm pro choice.I personally would never get a abortion.

The Mothman

10-14-2007, 10:11 AM

pro choice is where its at.
fetus's dont have feelings, so that story doesnt affect me at all.
its probably better to be killed before birth than be raised by a mother that doesnt want you.

ferretchucker

10-14-2007, 10:30 AM

I'm pro choice because there are different circumstances. What if someone was raped, always beaten up and the baby would be born into a family where it would always get beaten up. I don't like it when someone just doesn't want the baby because it's not fair, they got pregnant, but if it's better for the baby to die before it can think fully, then it's okay. That's my opinion. It's a rocky subject.

pinkfloyd45769

10-14-2007, 10:47 AM

It was just hard for me to hold my newborn baby girl and read ths. I really did not want to offend anyone. I think its sad, i'm an emotional wreck lately anyway.

ferretchucker

10-14-2007, 10:51 AM

you didn't offend me. Congrats by the way.

Despare

10-14-2007, 11:50 AM

You're only pro-choice because you were born.

GorePhobia

10-14-2007, 11:51 AM

I feel a woman has the right to decide especially if she is raped and impregnated

Despare

10-14-2007, 11:54 AM

I feel a woman has the right to decide especially if she is raped and impregnated

Look at the statistics, everybody uses that same damn excuse but do you realise how few of completed abortions involve a woman who was raped? Do you understand how hard it is for a woman to become pregnant from rape (do to the stress put on the body from the confrontation)? I think this is an old discussion, it's been done to death and nobody changes their POV so just sit back and enjoy the poem.

GorePhobia

10-14-2007, 12:00 PM

I wasn't complaining or nothing I just said that that's how I feel but whatever I don't really care what women do with their body.

ferretchucker

10-14-2007, 12:22 PM

I think there are plenty of circumstances where it's acceptable and not. But like I said, I'm pro choice.

Marroe

10-14-2007, 03:06 PM

Generally I'm pro Choice, but she's right. You do tend to look at a situation differently when you're in it. Now that I am 6 months pregnant it's hard for me to think about how someone could have an abortion, but depending on the circumstances, I get it.
I also don't understand anymore how someone can think the baby inside of them has no feelings. I feel her move all the time so I KNOW she's real, and she is a person already capable of surviving if she were to be born right now.

Who wrote this about a baby being aborted at 6 months? I don't see that happening

AUSTIN316426808

10-14-2007, 03:14 PM

Congradulations marroe, hope all goes well.

Marroe

10-14-2007, 03:15 PM

Congradulations marroe, hope all goes well.

Thanks:)
So far so good.

GorePhobia

10-14-2007, 03:16 PM

Yes Marroe congrats dearest hope all is well.

paws the great

10-14-2007, 04:10 PM

missmacabre

10-14-2007, 04:16 PM

pro-life. :D

PR3SSUR3

10-14-2007, 05:21 PM

Look at the statistics, everybody uses that same damn excuse but do you realise how few of completed abortions involve a woman who was raped? Do you understand how hard it is for a woman to become pregnant from rape (do to the stress put on the body from the confrontation)? I think this is an old discussion, it's been done to death and nobody changes their POV so just sit back and enjoy the poem.

Does this translate to any raped and subsequently pregnant women should not be allowed to abort?

Roderick Usher

10-14-2007, 05:53 PM

You know that abortion is one of the most divisive issues on the planet, but you title the thread "I Hope This Doesn't Make Anyone Mad"?

:confused:

PR3SSUR3

10-14-2007, 05:57 PM

See the true antagonists, are the peacekeepers.

Phalanx

10-15-2007, 01:45 AM

it's been done to death and nobody changes their POV so just sit back and enjoy the poem'
Sure...most enjoyable thing I've read all day...

I'm pro-choice...but not as much as I'm pro "don't be an irresponsible fuckwit", which I feel applies to both pre, and post pregnancy situations.
To each their own ends and means.
Some people aren't ready, and have fucked up...it's often the most responsible choice, and breaks what is evidently a potential cycle of irresponsible behaviour.
Not everyone is equipped emotionally and financially to have a child, I'd rather see someone with a successful life and situation raise a child at the point they're truly ready than just bring one into a life of a constant shitstorm and uphill struggle, more than likely a cycle passed through generations.

But hey...that there's my point of view...I can understand the points for and against.
I don't think anything should be forced upon anyone.

chef_koo

10-15-2007, 02:33 AM

i'm kinda pro choice, i'm kinda pro life. personally i think abortion is an unacceptable form of birth control but on the other hand, i can't make a women not do it. it's a touchy subject since you don't really have to look at a babies face and listen to it plead for it's life. for some it would numb them and make it easier. for other's it would be killing all the same.

i can't remember where i read it (i think time magazine) but there's an overwhelming statistic in north america that show that women who've had abortions regret having them afterwards. i rmeember it also saying that abortions have lasting effects on the female body.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-15-2007, 03:36 AM

I hope this makes people mad:

There was this van that I started noticing that was always parked in the same spot at this movie theater (I worked at a steak house right by the movie theater) and it had all these big pro life stickers all over the back and la piece de resistance novelty license plate on the back which read "I think therefore I'm Pro Life"so naturally it pissed me off. I don't care if some hick wants to let people know that he's pro life, but to say that pro choice people are stupid? I kept telling people I was going to kick the plate off, but I never did.

Instead I made this mock fetus one night during work, I took flour dough for it's skin and well the inside and I used aluminum foil for the skeletal structure, then I put the fetus, hotsauce and ketchup in a clear plastic bag and shook it up a bit. At the end of my shift I went outside with a few coworkers and I put it on the windshield. I was never so proud of myself as I drove home.

never saw the van again, true story.

Vodstok

10-15-2007, 04:22 AM

You know that abortion is one of the most divisive issues on the planet, but you title the thread "I Hope This Doesn't Make Anyone Mad"?

:confused:

Ditto. I didnt bother to read it, no offense, but i tend to think the pro-life bviewpoint is ignorant. Pro-lifers, in my experience anyway, tend to take the "pro lifers want everyone to get an abortion if they feel like it. Forget contraception, KILL BABIES, YAY!"

its just not like that. I personally support a womans right to do what ever she wants and/or needs with her body. Would I be happy with someone close to me getting an abortion? Not terribly, no. My sister is an irresponsible dipshit who aborted a baby, because she was irresponsible (for the record, she also adopted out a baby, which actually hurt more), and i have never forgiven her for it.

But it was her choice, and its my choice to judge her. It hurt, and her reasoning behind it is shitty, but its her body, and she can do with it what she chooses. For many other reasons, if she should choose to throw it under a bus, that would be just fine with me, but that does make the list of reasons why.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-15-2007, 04:28 AM

Let Me Delete Mah Posts

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-15-2007, 04:30 AM

I want to get a novelty plate for my car that reads "pro-abortion and anti-choice"

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-15-2007, 05:02 AM

ladies and gentleman, I give you fetus in a bag.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q117/lacirquemacabre/fwrus.jpg

AUSTIN316426808

10-15-2007, 05:25 AM

Do I think it's ok, not totally...Should people be able to do what the hell they want regardless of the situation, yes...Do I judge people for it, no..who the fuck am I to do so.

Vodstok

10-15-2007, 06:17 AM

Do I think it's ok, not totally...Should people be able to do what the hell they want regardless of the situation, yes...Do I judge people for it, no..who the fuck am I to do so.

the only person i ever judged for it was my sister, because she is an all-around shitty person to begin with.

AUSTIN316426808

10-15-2007, 06:24 AM

the only person i ever judged for it was my sister, because she is an all-around shitty person to begin with.

My comment wasn't aimed at you, that's just how I feel. Like I said, people should be able to do what they want, which includes you and everybody else whose given their point of view feeling how they want about the issue.

ferretchucker

10-15-2007, 06:46 AM

In the end, the baby is alive. But it was also pointed out in that that the baby wont see, speak or touch or run. I think, if it's gonna be to a mother too young, a family that doesn't want it, a poor family, sometimes it's in the babies best interest. Also, i think what you did was right MD. Saying somebody is stupid because of their opinions is wrong and they can have their beliefs, but they shouldn't shout them out to the world.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-15-2007, 05:46 PM

Also, i think what you did was right MD. Saying somebody is stupid because of their opinions is wrong and they can have their beliefs, but they shouldn't shout them out to the world.

exactly. ;)

illdojo

10-15-2007, 06:39 PM

I find most Pro-life people to be extremely self-righteous , and they're usually bible thumpers. :rolleyes:
Just my 2 cents.

novakru

10-16-2007, 05:59 AM

I don't know.... it seems ok that women are getting their clitoris ripped out at age 4 and 5 in certain areas of the world.
Women and men are butchered in war torn countries.
Little girls and boys get raped.
I saw a video of a pile and I mean literally a fucking PILE of people get burned and some of them hadn't been lucky enough to have been tortured to death so they burned alive.
This list could take me all fucking day...so...

Nobody seems to get all hell fire and rightous about what happens AFTER we get born, I say people that die and people that don't get the opportunity to be born in this fucked up planet- are the lucky ones.

But hey! Since we're here, let's just give each other some hugs and smiles:)

ferretchucker

10-16-2007, 06:52 AM

I'll show you smilies!

:):(;):D

The_Raven

10-16-2007, 07:18 AM

Pro-Life. But I do believe in respecting someone's decision when it comes down to this. After all, they are the ones who gotta live with it afterwards.

Edgar

Despare

10-16-2007, 09:22 AM

Does this translate to any raped and subsequently pregnant women should not be allowed to abort?

Nope, don't assume.

ferretchucker

10-16-2007, 11:55 AM

i think he meant, not all raped women would want to abort. What if the woman was pro-life.

tic

10-16-2007, 12:13 PM

I think its a highly emotive subject, one to which, having never been in a situation like that, don't have any answers.

My personal view is that abortion can cause as much pain to the 'mother' as it does to the unborn child/feotus, (which ever your feelings go towards) psychologically speaking.

I would like to think I would would be supportive of her wishes, but as I say, I've never had to make that type of decision.

Hopefully I'll never have to.

ferretchucker

10-16-2007, 12:16 PM

there's never going to be a right or wrong answer to this question. Everyone just has their own views on the subject.

Despare

10-16-2007, 12:29 PM

i think he meant, not all raped women would want to abort. What if the woman was pro-life.

What I meant is that it's estimated that under 5% of rape cases result in pregnancy and if you take into account rape AND incest cases the fraction is even smaller (close to 1) so the same old rape and or incest arguments shouldn't be an issue. I have my opinion and everybody else can have theirs but don't try to shove yours down my throat. It's easy to make generalizations and say that all pro-choicers are bible thumping rednecks or that pro-lifers are liberal atheists so I'm hoping everybody stays away from that (too late for some?). Anyway, the poem was ok and now the thread itself sucks. I'm heading off to watch Imprint.

PR3SSUR3

10-16-2007, 12:40 PM

Despare

10-16-2007, 01:26 PM

That is not what the post is saying - it suggests that using rape as a valid reason for abortion is a trite and dismissable excuse trying to justify the acceptance of abortion.

The tone of the post considering it was made as a response to a pro-choice comment seems pretty clear: that the few raped women who conceive should consider a pro-life poem instead of an abortion.

But apparently that's not what he meant, so there you go.

EDIT:-

The small amount of pregnant rapes nontheless addresses a huge ethical dilemma, which is should a woman be forced to feed and birth the child of an evil man, conceived through an act of premeditated evil.

Anyone with half a brain cell would say, no - therefore abortion should be legal and accepted. Or should it only be allowed in clear cases of rape?

But the real question surely is, why do threads become labelled as 'sucky' when people ask questions and try to discuss serious issues?

A: That's not what I meant, as I described, and a poem is not a viable alternative to an abortion.

B: The few people who ask questions and actually discuss a serious issue quickly get outnumbered and overshadowed by narrow-minded people who do nothing but perpetuate stereotypes. I stated my opinion, and read other people's views... again. We've had this discussion before, more than once, and frankly this thread hasn't brought anything new to the table except for the poem that started this off.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-16-2007, 02:00 PM

this is one of the better threads we've had in awhile

Despare

10-16-2007, 02:15 PM

this is one of the better threads we've had in awhile

Since the last one eh? Remember that one? It's all the same stuff, and even back then it had already been discussed before. It's all just retreads of the same conversations.
I don't think an unborn child has any rights whatsoever, and its fate is quite literally in the hands (or womb) of its creator until it is born. As has been said, people can't really go around telling women what to do with what they have growing inside them - who are they to appoint themselves spokespersons for foetuses? ('Foetusii?')

However I think the way things are generally accepted now is about right - there should be a cutoff point for abortion, from when the 'baby' becomes significantly formed enough to be recognised as a human being, and not just a load of expanding cells. Usually this will give the potential mother plenty of time to decide whether it is right to bring it into the world or not.

There was stereotyping too...

Its so funny that most Pro Lifers are also war suporters. .

And all Mexicans are landscapers, all blacks steal, all Jews are cheap, all the Irish are drunks...

Ah well... you get the point.

Dark Party

10-16-2007, 04:00 PM

My uncle sent me this and i have just been crying my eyes out. I hate this world we live in!

Ironically, the band Pink Floyd is pro-abortion.

But perhaps if you want a kinder, gentler world -- you should hang out at a forum NOT named Horror.com.

missmacabre

10-16-2007, 04:14 PM

Nothing personal but I think that if I was raped and became pregnant I would want to have the baby and raise them so they wouldn't become a rapist or any manner of bad person.

Despare

10-16-2007, 04:34 PM

Ironically, the band Pink Floyd is pro-abortion.

Don't you mean pro-choice? Or does every member of Pink Floyd campaign for abortions over birth? I don't even think Syd would have known if he was pro-choice or not...

PR3SSUR3

10-16-2007, 05:29 PM

A: That's not what I meant, as I described, and a poem is not a viable alternative to an abortion.

B: The few people who ask questions and actually discuss a serious issue quickly get outnumbered and overshadowed by narrow-minded people who do nothing but perpetuate stereotypes. I stated my opinion, and read other people's views... again. We've had this discussion before, more than once, and frankly this thread hasn't brought anything new to the table except for the poem that started this off.

Since the last one eh? Remember that one? It's all the same stuff, and even back then it had already been discussed before. It's all just retreads of the same conversations.

The thread is immediately pro-life propaganda, therefore subject and open to conflicting opinions.

If you find it weary, don't look at or post in it.

Others might find the subject more interesting than the opening poem.

You have said you don't like hearing about a few rape-pregnancies (a significant aspect in the concept of abortion), but that you are pro-choice. I haven't seen a lot of stereotyping, but in any event since when did that become such a dirty word?

Enjoy poem - and thread!

:D

P.S. All Yanks are fat, and Aussies are thick.

:eek:

Despare

10-16-2007, 05:51 PM

I find most Pro-life people to be extremely self-righteous , and they're usually bible thumpers. :rolleyes:
Just my 2 cents.

No stereotyping? Ah well, I guess you only catch it when you're wearily reading through a thread. ;)

Ignorance is a dirty word and stereotyping is born from ignorance. Ah well, I don't even think this thread shouldn't exist as there are some good opinions in it (albiet nothing really new), I just think it should be merged with the touchy subject thread if it's going to turn into or continue to be a debate. Rape cases are important in concept but in reality they make up such a tiny portion of abortions that they are ONLY important in concept and not execution. PS: I'd say I'm pro-life.

We should force anybody who gets an abortion to eat the foetus.

PR3SSUR3

10-16-2007, 06:45 PM

There are too many people and variables in the world to not stereotype sometimes. Illdojo's sarcasm gets a point across, and rattles a cage at the same time - jackpot.

If you are pro-life, why did you say no to my question which assumed you believe any raped and subsequently pregnant women should not be allowed to abort?

Leaning towards pro-life is perfectly fine, but please answer the question:-

Do you think abortion should be allowed for impregnated rape victims?

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-16-2007, 06:52 PM

Since the last one eh? Remember that one? It's all the same stuff, and even back then it had already been discussed before. It's all just retreads of the same conversations.

I kind of like threads where 75% of the opinions don't even matter. ;)

hellfire1

10-16-2007, 06:57 PM

Oh good lord...

If you don't have a uterus, shut the fuck up.

No, I didn't just write that. :p

_____V_____

10-16-2007, 06:58 PM

Leaning towards pro-life is perfectly fine, but please answer the question:-

Do you think abortion should be allowed for impregnated rape victims?

If thats a general question directed at everyone...

Yes.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-16-2007, 07:06 PM

I wonder how many members wrote a post for this thread and then chickened out of posting it...

AUSTIN316426808

10-16-2007, 07:08 PM

I wonder how many members wrote a post for this thread and then chickened out of posting it...

I did about 5 minutes ago. Just don't see the point anymore.

_____V_____

10-16-2007, 07:11 PM

I wonder how many members wrote a post for this thread and then chickened out of posting it...

I didn't, but kept track of this thread and kept comparing the views with the other thread on the same subject.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-16-2007, 07:12 PM

this thread:

worthless opinions
a poem
A picture of a fetus in a bag (admittedly fake but whatever, it looked so much better in person)

how can anyone have complaints?

_____V_____

10-16-2007, 07:16 PM

this thread:

worthless opinions
a poem
A picture of a fetus in a bag (admittedly fake but whatever, it looked so much better in person)

how can anyone have complaints?

Just for the above-mentioned...this thread gets the

http://electricpulp.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/seal-1.gif

hellfire1

10-16-2007, 07:17 PM

_____V_____

10-16-2007, 07:23 PM

It's a fucking moot point... if you've never been through it, then you don't have much to say.

Most will find out that your beliefs or opinions go out the window once you're confronted with the situation. It's easy to say "I would never kill my baby... even if I get raped" if you've never been raped and had to carry the fruit of a heinous crime perpetrated against your own body.

It's very easy to say you'd dare to bring a child into this world when you've never been confonted with extreme poverty and have no means to take care of yourself, let alone a child.

So unless you've lived through it, your opinion means shit.

And I couldn't care less if I get flak for this, so spare me.

I agree 100%.

A rape victim's mindset about her own body, and the feelings she would have for a "life" inside her, conceived after such a heinous deed...is certainly not the same for anyone who isn't in her shoes and says "she should be pro-life about it."

No fuckin' way.

Thats my 2 cents in.

AUSTIN316426808

10-16-2007, 07:40 PM

this thread:

worthless opinions

Exactly, which is why I don't see the point in continuing a discussion that's going nowhere. Except for maybe a stupid argument and/or 40 more pages of did not...did to...did not......

_____V_____

10-16-2007, 07:43 PM

Exactly, which is why I don't see the point in continuing a discussion that's going nowhere. Except for maybe a stupid argument and/or 40 more pages of did not...did to...did not......

End of discussion then? I feel kinda stupid responding so late to this thread...but I stand by my opinion on the matter.

Not that it matters a great deal though.:o

Arioch

10-16-2007, 08:03 PM

thats some pretty intense propaganda there....

pro choice is where its at.
fetus's dont have feelings, so that story doesnt affect me at all.
its probably better to be killed before birth than be raised by a mother that doesnt want you.

word....do what you want and what you believe with your own body, and dont tell me what to do with mine....

not trying to piss any pro-lifers off or anything, and obviously the discussion in this thread is already done.....just a big advocate against big government in personal choices...

Psycom5k

10-17-2007, 03:15 AM

Ok I don't have a belief exactly, but more of an idea about this myself. Well basicly this idea of mine is that people have souls, and those souls have to fill a certain requirement in life before they can move on to the after life. Everybodys is different, which is why we all don't die at a certain age, like there is a basic plan that is set from before you were even born, sort of like a destiny, except its ever changing by your actions.
Now the part that is relevent to this thread is that some souls would require somebody being alive for 90 years, and some for maybe 9 days. Which would in turn mean that abortion does have a purpose in life, whether some want to think that its true or not.
Like I said, this is not a belief but an idea. Some may think of this as stupid, and possibly ignorant, but thats your opinion and you have your right to that.
Therefor I can't really say that I am pro-choice or pro-life, but more pro-destiny, so to speak.

novakru

10-17-2007, 05:18 AM

I think any issues where people get angry enough to do something drastic is an excellent issue to discuss and I am glad it was brought up.

A guy I knew said he was pro-life, and was adament about it-thought women that had abortions were lower than shit.
Turn the clock up 5 years later and he gets a girl knocked up...guess who suggests an abortion..not her.

My own story.... I get pregnant at 19-not married, the guy is an asshole and we are on the verge of breaking up....
I do happen to be pro-choice but I didn't feel like I could possibly go through with an abortion...just could NOT do it.

My decision was made for me with a miscarriage.

My aunt- was 23-in school with an abusive boyfriend, she's claimed she was pro-life and all women that had abortions were welfare trash sluts.
But who has an abortion?
This was a decision that she had a VERY hard time doing and to this day, she feels bad about it.
I think for years after her abortion she cried when she saw babies.
I think I even wrote about her story a few years back on here.

A friend of mine was pregnant at 18, she was pro-life, had the baby....he's the most royally fucked up person I have ever known in my entire life...there are things he has done that if he HAD been aborted...well-let's just say there's at least one girl that would have a decent life right now.

Anyway, the first step to making a hot topic less chaotic is to get it DISCUSSED.
We ALL want to do the right thing,be the upstanding so and so, whatever...
but to test that in real life HUMAN conditions is another story altogether.

Phalanx

10-17-2007, 06:17 AM

A good point somebody made is how perspective on a matter can change on the basis of personal experience - probably the one thing in here nobody could argue with, or have a legitimate opinion against. Guess one will never know which stance they'd truly take "in theory".

I've said my bit on this one...not saying it's any more or less valid than the others...I got my say on it, and I'm not fanatical about it, or trying to convince anyone else either way - That's why I feel right referring to the thing I go with "pro choice", not "pro MY choice" - It applies to not only the conventional definition, but also in general, the choice to not have to give in to the expectations of others, either way. Believe what you're gonna believe, let it known for the sake of discussion if called upon, just "get" that it's a pretty gray area, even if you stand clearly in the black or white of it.

I wasn't initially going to say any more about the matter, but it came to me...so may as well throw in what I had.
What I came here in the first place for was to address this:

But perhaps if you want a kinder, gentler world -- you should hang out at a forum NOT named Horror.com.
How about, fuck off? That work for you?
Don't rock up here and assume you can tell people to head off on the basis of their views, whether or not you think they're sugarcoated.
Dickhead.

illdojo

10-17-2007, 08:14 AM

How about, fuck off? That work for you?
Don't rock up here and assume you can tell people to head off on the basis of their views, whether or not you think they're sugarcoated.
Dickhead.

Amen, Phalanx. :cool:

Despare

10-17-2007, 08:39 AM

Because you asked Pressure, I still consider myself pro-life even though I believe in early term abortions if it's the result of a rape. Honestly though, my opinion is mine only and yours belongs to you but our opinions don't matter a bit. Nobody here has an opinion that really matters unless of course they're contemplating an abortion right now or a supreme court justice (I hate seeing those words together sometimes). Do I understand this? Of course. Am I still arrogant enough to consider myself a spokesman for unborn babies? Sometimes...

Also, even though I think stereotypes are lazy prejudices I would never let one rattle my cage. In fact, I don't think there's much on an internet forum that could rattle me at all. You can keep trying though. ;)

Oh, and as far as poverty goes, if somebody's not working they shouldn't be screwing. Understand the risks and deal with the consequences.

A
How about, fuck off? That work for you?
Don't rock up here and assume you can tell people to head off on the basis of their views, whether or not you think they're sugarcoated.
Dickhead.

I feel the same way Dark Party. Besides, who the fuck are you?

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-17-2007, 09:00 AM

Besides, who the fuck are you?

why he's Randy Anderson of course.

PR3SSUR3

10-17-2007, 10:06 AM

There's the thick-skinned evil puppy we've all learned to love! Well, most of us... :D

Disagree about several comments stating that our opinions on subjects that do not momentarily concern us (or that we are not qualified to discuss through gender) do not matter.

Of course opinions matter, all opinions matter. In the free world, general opinions help shape law, keep the peace and improve society. It is volume and variety of opinion that counts. Sometimes educated views must contend with ignorant bleating, and sometimes righteous sensibilities lose out.

And if you cannot type an opinion in a general message forum without people simply moaning about the privilege, what is the point of it? Lord, you pro-lifers especially are like so vacuously irritable about the abortion debate.

OOps! i stereotyped

:eek:

ferretchucker

10-17-2007, 11:12 AM

I think pro-lifers can believe what they want and yes, abortion is a very sad thing, but I've said this millions of times. CIRUMSTANCES! There are hundreds of circumstances. What if the woman had HIV? Would she want it to pass on to her baby. I certainly wouldn't. So, no, I don't agree with pro-lifers but they don't agree with me, therefore, there is no right or wrong answer!

Despare

10-17-2007, 01:34 PM

And if you cannot type an opinion in a general message forum without people simply moaning about the privilege, what is the point of it? Lord, you pro-lifers especially are like so vacuously irritable about the abortion debate.

OOps! i stereotyped

:eek:

I agree that we should be able to share our opinions without getting lambasted for them. I just wish most people would keep their opinions to themselves because their opinions simply aren't as good as mine. ;)

Stereotypers are such instigators. :cool:

PR3SSUR3

10-17-2007, 03:31 PM

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w121/chirokeith/jesus_lol.jpg

Elvis_Christ

10-17-2007, 06:13 PM

If you don't like abortions don't have one....
I'm down for pro choice.
A lot of pro lifers should've been torn outta womb to make the world a better place.

missmacabre

10-17-2007, 06:18 PM

If you don't like abortions don't have one....
I'm down for pro choice.
A lot of pro lifers should've been torn outta womb to make the world a better place.

like that one lady on Wife Swap. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5464505634137914176&q=trading+spouses

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-17-2007, 06:37 PM

If you don't like abortions don't have one....
I'm down for pro choice.
A lot of pro lifers should've been torn outta womb to make the world a better place.

haha yes.

welcome back btw

ferretchucker

10-18-2007, 07:25 AM

I just think that pro-lifers can get really cruel sometimes. For example, if a woman didn't know she was pregnant 'til three months into it, no boyfriend, a small one bedroom flat, a bad job and she wants an abortion, they'll say it's wrong. You know my favourite word in this thread so I won't even bother saying it.

The_Raven

10-18-2007, 09:54 AM

There is no shame in being a pro-lifer. It all comes down to individual choices we make. Sometimes things go your way, sometimes not.

Edgar

X¤MurderDoll¤X

10-18-2007, 10:20 AM

jokes aside from me: fuck pro lifers.

the_real_linda

10-18-2007, 10:28 AM

the earth is becoming overpopulated and we cant take care of each other as it is

ferretchucker

10-18-2007, 10:35 AM

there may be no shame in being a pro-lifer, but there's equally no shame in being pro-choice.

tic

10-18-2007, 10:52 AM

the earth is becoming overpopulated and we cant take care of each other as it is

Well nuke, China then; then there will be more room for everyone.

ferretchucker

10-18-2007, 10:54 AM

Shoot anyone over 50. Then there'd also be less farting meaning less gass in the atmosphere and less global warming. ;)

Despare

10-18-2007, 12:09 PM

jokes aside from me: fuck pro lifers.

Please though, make sure to use protection.

ferretchucker

10-18-2007, 12:13 PM

...or you'll end up having to keep that baby.

GorePhobia

10-18-2007, 01:50 PM

Just wanted to let everyone know here that I love them and any decision they make I will support fully.

Phalanx

10-18-2007, 03:30 PM

I just think that pro-lifers can get really cruel sometimes.
Some...but then with all things, there's the followers of that way of thinking, and the fanatic assholes. Like the ones you see on the news and on the streets outside clinics, wasting their time and lives to show people that are more than likely on the shittiest day of their lives, pictures of dead babies, while they call them sinners and scum...Distasteful, disgusting people that you hope to see get beat on, every time you witness them.

For example, if a woman didn't know she was pregnant 'til three months into it, no boyfriend, a small one bedroom flat, a bad job and she wants an abortion, they'll say it's wrong. You know my favourite word in this thread so I won't even bother saying it.
They can say it's wrong, that's their choice - but that doesn't make it so.
Like I said before, there's many a situation a person/couple could find themselves in that I believe would more than justify (that's a horrible word to use here, but anyways) considering/undergoing an abortion; abusive partners, financial instability, the rape thing, illness that could effect your child, a drug habit, being young and stupid and not using a jimmy or whatever, family acceptance, and that's only what comes to mind, all, I believe situations that you wouldn't want to bring a child into, lest you perpetuate the cycle, and have them endure the same mistakes and troubles, because people lead by example, like it or not, and I think "history repeats" could apply heavily to both sides of this topic.