So, What Exactly IS A 'MAN'?

[bloodrayne]

I am SO sick of this 'macho man' type bullshit...I can't stand guys who think that drinking, fighting, and driving a truck is what makes a male person a 'MAN'

Alex and Seri's father have informed them that:

@ Alex: "You shouldn't be cooking (only your MOTHER should do that), you should be mowing the lawn...You're too skinny, you need to 'workout', and you need to learn to fight..."...etcetera

So, I told him "How can you tell a kid who's almost 13 that he's too incompetent to use a stove but he should be operating a lawnmower? That's a little confusing, dontcha think?"..."Alex is a very loving, caring, sensitive, intelligent individual, NOT physical, and there isn't a DAMNED thing wrong with that"...Alex has a heart condition, he certainly doesn't need the heat and exertion that mowing (especially THIS yard) would put on him, and Alex LOVES to cook, when he was 6 years old (and helping me to make pineapple upside down cake, cookies, etcetera) he said he wanted to own a bakery...But his father never thinks about things like that, or how anyone else feels...And I have tried to teach Alex that fighting is STUPID and unnecessary, unless you have to defend yourself...I have taught him that you never hit anyone smaller or weaker than you, and you NEVER hit a female, nor do you instigate a fight...There are far better, more intelligent ways to deal with things...His father will never understand the importance of BRAINS over braun

@ Seri: "Why don't you find a REAL man, instead of going out with these pussies?"...Seri has had 2 boyfriends...Her father was CONSTANTLY challenging them to fight with him to 'see what you're made of...See if you could protect my daughter' God, he's SUCH a caveman...They refused, so they weren't 'good enough for her'...They didn't drink or smoke, and they were more into music and computers than fighting and acting stupid...And I have some bad news for Seri's father, Seri kinda likes somewhat 'girly guys'...And I often wonder if it's BECAUSE OF her father...

Some 'men' think that as long as you work hard (whether you use the money you make to pay the BILLS or not:rolleyes:, or meet all of your responsibilities) that you are a 'real man', and if you happen to get a few dents in your truck from ramming some guy's head into it at a bar, well that's just what 'men' do...I'm gonna have to disagree

Dustin is the COMPLETE opposite of my ex...That's why we're still together ;)...And Dustin always helps me to calm Alex down when his father has made him feel like shit

Dustin is not a fighter (but he WILL defend himself and his family if necessary, although we're intelligent enough not to put ourselves in the types of situations where defense would likely be necessary in the first place)...He's a sensitive person, a musician, a writer, a thinker, a computer nerd and an excellent cook...All of the things that my ex considers to be 'weak', and things that he could never be

My ex makes exactly SIX times more money than Dustin (which my ex thinks is an indication that he is a 'better MAN' than Dustin), but my ex is deep in debt (as he has ALWAYS been), and can't manage to pay his bills on time, OR pay child support (which is fine by me, because the less contact the better)...Dustin, with much less income, manages to pay all of our bills AND pick up the slack in taking care of Alex and doing things for Seri, because their father is always broke...and Dustin has NEVER complained about that

In my eyes, Dustin is the 'real MAN'...And if he's NOT considered a man by majority standards, then fine, I'll just take whatever the hell he IS


The reason I actually made this thread (besides venting :p) is to:

1) Get some responses from the females to see what THEY consider a 'man' to be...Everyone has their own opinion, maybe I'll find out that mine is different from most, or maybe my thoughts will be supported...Either way, it would be interesting to find out

2) Find out what the guys really think it means to be a REAL man

3) See if the definitions for a 'man' are different in the eyes of the females and the males...I think this part will be most interesting...Perhaps even help to understand part of the miscommunication between males and females...And emphasize the difference in mentalities between men and women


Heh...Do you guys EVER get tired of feeling like my 'test subjects'?...I can't help it, human psychology enthralls me...So, please just humor me, huh? :)

[crabapple]

Man? What is...?

Man weeps a lot and listens to Robert Smith, right? Dress in black? Eyeliner/makeup?

[bloodrayne]

Man? What is...?

Man weeps a lot and listens to Robert Smith, right? Dress in black? Eyeliner/makeup?

HAHAHA...Shut up YOU.

[ferretchucker]

a man is the name given to the adults of the male gender in the huan race.

[Doc Faustus]

The Huan just use the word man in a derogatory way. It means "one who cannot pilot the Huan dreadnought". They're mostly a matriarchal culture.
But, seriously, I think manhood is proved by the impulse to protect. There's a lot of kinds of protection though. I think it's manly to console those who feel badly. It shows that you're willing to look out for those you call your own. I think it's manly to walk away from a fight with a weaker dumber individual. If that weak, stupid individual continues to provoke, then the manly thing is to zap him with a concealed tazer or pull a knife out of your boot and make "him" into a her. We are a cunning species that proved its worth against vicious animals. Those who seek to act like a lesser animal should be dealt with using a human response. The response that made us sharpen a stick in the first place. I think cunning and intelligence are therefore, as is sensitivity (which improves our capacity to defend our mate and family from conflicts). Real men might down beers, watch slasher movies and be mesmerized by our waitress' cleavage, but we do not do harm to our mate and family by being neanderthal retards.

[VampiricClown]

Fighting to see if they can protect daughter? Uh....If my girlfriends dad did that, he'd be dead. I fight to win and I won't stop til whoever I'm fighting no longer can get back up. I don't like to fight, but put in the situation, I can.

Drinking isn't manly. It's just stupid.

I don't like driving trucks, I like driving a hearse. But does that make my genitals disappear? I believe not.

[bloodrayne]

The Huan just use the word man in a derogatory way. It means "one who cannot pilot the Huan dreadnought". They're mostly a matriarchal culture.
Made me giggle :D



Thanks for your input :)

[bloodrayne]

I don't like driving trucks, I like driving a hearse. But does that make my genitals disappear? I believe not.Another funny...I love it

[Zero]

i am a monkey - it makes life easier that way. . .mainly scratch, sniff, eat, fling pooh

[illdojo]

What Exactly IS A 'MAN'??????
Me baby, ME :D

[Posher778]

Erm. Your ex is such a dunce.

[illdojo]

Erm. Your ex is such a dunce.

Ditto........

[bloodrayne]

Um yeah...Why do you guys think he's the "EX"? :p

Here's a little tip for the girls of the forum...That whole 'staying with him for the kids' sake' doesn't play out very well...I tried it until Seri was 15, when she asked me "Why is he even still here?"...Well, with the realization that even his own kids were sick of his shit, I no longer HAD a reason...And so, he was gone...

[massacre man]

"What makes a man, is it the woman in his arms? Just 'cause she has big titties. Or is it the way he fights every day... no it's probably the titties NOW YOU'RE A MAN! A MAN! MAN! MAN!"

According to Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

[Dante'sInferno]

I never really liked sports or cars as a kid.Just horror movies and......The Terminator.

[meetthecreeper]

Hey sis.

New there was a reason I came here.

How about something from the outermost edge of society.

A man cannot be defined by his possessions or his money but only by his actions. As Quato would say "You are what you do," Nickel to anyone who can reference the film.

Real men dont make excuses, dont blame others for their failures and can admit to their shortcomings.

Real men can paint the sky so that it would take your breath away, make a meal fit for a royal family and write poetry that brings a tear to the eye. We can show compassion and understanding. Love and be assertive.

Fighting. Give me a cause "worth" fighting for and together we will spill blood. And if the women want to join in the war by all means let them. If they feel they have some stake in the cause so be it they win my accolades. Fighting for the sake of fighting makes no sense to me.

Really sis what Alex should be doing is watching the WWE so he can grow to be a man.:rolleyes:

Men should meet all their responsiblities and go beyond that. Sounds to me like Dustin has gone way beyond what one would expect of him and feels unfettered.

What the hell do I know being a social pariah and all.

[bloodrayne]

What the hell do I know being a social pariah and all.A HELL of a lot more than my ex, that's for damn sure :)

Real men dont make excuses, dont blame others for their failures and can admit to their shortcomings.

Real men can paint the sky so that it would take your breath away, make a meal fit for a royal family and write poetry that brings a tear to the eye. We can show compassion and understanding. Love and be assertive.This part is excellent...Extremely well said

I love you so much...But, you know that

I wish you would move closer so that Alex would have more POSITIVE male influences in his life...But, you like being out there away from the world and all...I can understand that, too...Kiss the woman and the kids for me :)...I hope you guys are all doing very well...OH, this is starting to get personal:o ...I'll call ya when I get a chance (As you know, baby doesn't give me many of those :))

[Psycom5k]

A man cannot be defined by his possessions or his money but only by his actions. As Quato would say "You are what you do," Nickel to anyone who can reference the film.

Real men dont make excuses, dont blame others for their failures and can admit to their shortcomings.

Real men can paint the sky so that it would take your breath away, make a meal fit for a royal family and write poetry that brings a tear to the eye. We can show compassion and understanding. Love and be assertive.

Fighting. Give me a cause "worth" fighting for and together we will spill blood. And if the women want to join in the war by all means let them. If they feel they have some stake in the cause so be it they win my accolades. Fighting for the sake of fighting makes no sense to me.

Really sis what Alex should be doing is watching the WWE so he can grow to be a man.

Men should meet all their responsiblities and go beyond that.

OK I agree with almost everything that they said, accept a few things, the poetry thing definatly isn't something that is required to be a man. but pretty much heres what i think a man is.
A real man, knows when to fight, never picks one, and knows when to stop fighting.
He supports his loved ones, instead of OVERLY pretecting them. He has to know when to let go, or let them learn for themselves.
He knows when he is wrong.
He takes care of his resposibilities and does everything he can to do more, but if he cannot fulfill is responsibilites he at least tries his hardest and gives everything he can to try to fulfill them.
He always has an open mind about things, especially when it comes to his children or others children, he should know that not everything/one has to be the way he wants them.
HES NOT FULL OF HIMSELF.
A man is not an asshole. Doesn't treat people like garbage.
Hes always there for his freinds and family, whether it be for advice or a shoulder to cry on.
A real man knows that its ok to cry.
Finally, a real man will give his life to save a loved one.


By the way, this is coming from a guy incase anybody wanted to know

[bloodrayne]

A real man, knows when to fight, never picks one, and knows when to stop fighting.
He supports his loved ones, instead of OVERLY pretecting them. He has to know when to let go, or let them learn for themselves.
He knows when he is wrong.
He takes care of his resposibilities and does everything he can to do more, but if he cannot fulfill is responsibilites he at least tries his hardest and gives everything he can to try to fulfill them.
He always has an open mind about things, especially when it comes to his children or others children, he should know that not everything/one has to be the way he wants them.
HES NOT FULL OF HIMSELF.
A man is not an asshole. Doesn't treat people like garbage.
Hes always there for his freinds and family, whether it be for advice or a shoulder to cry on.
A real man knows that its ok to cry.
Finally, a real man will give his life to save a loved one.


By the way, this is coming from a guy incase anybody wanted to knowExtremely good response...I'm certainly NOT going to disagree with any of that

[dewaholic]

I am SO sick of this 'macho man' type bullshit...I can't stand guys who think that drinking, fighting, and driving a truck is what makes a male person a 'MAN'

Alex and Seri's father have informed them that:

@ Alex: "You shouldn't be cooking (only your MOTHER should do that), you should be mowing the lawn...You're too skinny, you need to 'workout', and you need to learn to fight..."...etcetera

So, I told him "How can you tell a kid who's almost 13 that he's too incompetent to use a stove but he should be operating a lawnmower? That's a little confusing, dontcha think?"..."Alex is a very loving, caring, sensitive, intelligent individual, NOT physical, and there isn't a DAMNED thing wrong with that"...Alex has a heart condition, he certainly doesn't need the heat and exertion that mowing (especially THIS yard) would put on him, and Alex LOVES to cook, when he was 6 years old (and helping me to make pineapple upside down cake, cookies, etcetera) he said he wanted to own a bakery...But his father never thinks about things like that, or how anyone else feels...And I have tried to teach Alex that fighting is STUPID and unnecessary, unless you have to defend yourself...I have taught him that you never hit anyone smaller or weaker than you, and you NEVER hit a female, nor do you instigate a fight...There are far better, more intelligent ways to deal with things...His father will never understand the importance of BRAINS over braun

@ Seri: "Why don't you find a REAL man, instead of going out with these pussies?"...Seri has had 2 boyfriends...Her father was CONSTANTLY challenging them to fight with him to 'see what you're made of...See if you could protect my daughter' God, he's SUCH a caveman...They refused, so they weren't 'good enough for her'...They didn't drink or smoke, and they were more into music and computers than fighting and acting stupid...And I have some bad news for Seri's father, Seri kinda likes somewhat 'girly guys'...And I often wonder if it's BECAUSE OF her father...

Some 'men' think that as long as you work hard (whether you use the money you make to pay the BILLS or not:rolleyes:, or meet all of your responsibilities) that you are a 'real man', and if you happen to get a few dents in your truck from ramming some guy's head into it at a bar, well that's just what 'men' do...I'm gonna have to disagree

Dustin is the COMPLETE opposite of my ex...That's why we're still together ;)...And Dustin always helps me to calm Alex down when his father has made him feel like shit

Dustin is not a fighter (but he WILL defend himself and his family if necessary, although we're intelligent enough not to put ourselves in the types of situations where defense would likely be necessary in the first place)...He's a sensitive person, a musician, a writer, a thinker, a computer nerd and an excellent cook...All of the things that my ex considers to be 'weak', and things that he could never be

My ex makes exactly SIX times more money than Dustin (which my ex thinks is an indication that he is a 'better MAN' than Dustin), but my ex is deep in debt (as he has ALWAYS been), and can't manage to pay his bills on time, OR pay child support (which is fine by me, because the less contact the better)...Dustin, with much less income, manages to pay all of our bills AND pick up the slack in taking care of Alex and doing things for Seri, because their father is always broke...and Dustin has NEVER complained about that

In my eyes, Dustin is the 'real MAN'...And if he's NOT considered a man by majority standards, then fine, I'll just take whatever the hell he IS


The reason I actually made this thread (besides venting :p) is to:

1) Get some responses from the females to see what THEY consider a 'man' to be...Everyone has their own opinion, maybe I'll find out that mine is different from most, or maybe my thoughts will be supported...Either way, it would be interesting to find out

2) Find out what the guys really think it means to be a REAL man

3) See if the definitions for a 'man' are different in the eyes of the females and the males...I think this part will be most interesting...Perhaps even help to understand part of the miscommunication between males and females...And emphasize the difference in mentalities between men and women


Heh...Do you guys EVER get tired of feeling like my 'test subjects'?...I can't help it, human psychology enthralls me...So, please just humor me, huh? :)

I only quoted this cuz I'm making cookies, might hafta get up & I'd forget what I was replying to. Cookies are actually the only thing I like to make. Other than that, the most complex thing I would make would be a cheeseburger.
Which smoothly now goes to talk about "real men": A real man can cook, clean, help out etc. I'm not with anyone & forever will be single, cuz I prefer it that way. And a real woman can even mow the lawn. These things of course aren't gender specific anymore like they were in say the 1950's or so.
Besides there's lots of male chefs. (better them than me) I say if your son wants to cook, you should somehow have him cook in front of your ex. Now I'm thinking of barbecue...Why is it ok if a guy barbecues, but not ok if a guy say bakes a cake? (from views of ppl like your ex) Your ex (like mine) is a moron. We should ship the exes off to another planet. But unlike you, I don't have my ex pay anything. In fact, I believe he's in jail, but that's a whole nother topic.
OK I'll quit rambling.

[bloodrayne]

Why is it ok if a guy barbecues, but not ok if a guy say bakes a cake? (from views of ppl like your ex).You hit THAT nail square on the head...Yeah, apparently operating a GRILL is manly, but a STOVE is not:rolleyes: ...Probably has something to do with the FIRE (freakin' neanderthal...haha)

But unlike you, I don't have my ex pay anything. Nope, not unlike me...You may have read it wrong (it IS really long:o )...MY ex is always broke, that's his excuse for not paying child support, and I don't ever hassle him about it, because I'd rather not have any contact with him or deal with his drama...BUT, Dustin picks up the slack :)

And NOW I want some cookies :p

[dewaholic]

You hit THAT nail square on the head...Yeah, apparently operating a GRILL is manly, but a STOVE is not:rolleyes: ...Probably has something to do with the FIRE (freakin' neanderthal...haha)

Nope, not unlike me...You may have read it wrong (it IS really long:o )...MY ex is always broke, that's his excuse for not paying child support, and I don't ever hassle him about it, because I'd rather not have any contact with him or deal with his drama...BUT, Dustin picks up the slack :)

And NOW I want some cookies :p

Yea maybe fire. That & squirting fluid on it to make it bigger.

I never wanted my ex to pay support. My kid does not need to even know that dumbass. He's given me 20 bucks here & there. But I can't even be in the same room as him anymore, or I will kill him. That's no joke either. Him & his mom used to come over once a season, but not this season, which leads me to believe he's in jail.

Well I wish I could give ya some cookies. I would if I could. They are peanut butter btw.

[Psycom5k]

lol ya know what i totally forgot to add, that I am a chef myself, well... kinda, I'm in college for it now. So I totally disagree with the Ex of yours. Oh and about the boyfreinds of your daughter thing, Its not his decision at all who she can or can't go out with so he should just butt out.

[Psycom5k]

You hit THAT nail square on the head...Yeah, apparently operating a GRILL is manly, but a STOVE is not:rolleyes: ...Probably has something to do with the FIRE (freakin' neanderthal...haha)

What are you talking about.... operating a grill is the manliest kind of cooking... and yeah its totally about the fire, its bred into us.

[bloodrayne]

That & squirting fluid on it to make it bigger. That nearly made me choke on my drink...haha

I may make some peanut butter cookies tonight...I put chocolate chips in mine...mmmmOh and about the boyfreinds of your daughter thing, Its not his decision at all who she can or can't go out with so he should just butt out.And that's EXACTLY what I tell him...It's the same as when he tells Alex that he has to "cut his hair so he won't look like a girl":rolleyes: It's ALEX'S head, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it...As long as my kids aren't doing something that can hurt themselves or anyone else, then they can express themselves however they like...Their dad cannot comprehend that concept AT ALL...But, he doesn't really come around very often, so it's not so bad now

[bloodrayne]

What are you talking about.... operating a grill is the manliest kind of cooking... and yeah its totally about the fire, its bred into us.Well then, I should wear a cup or something, because I'M the one who operates the grill at MY house...hahaha

[Psycom5k]

I may make some peanut butter cookies tonight...I put chocolate chips in mine...mmmm
And that's EXACTLY what I tell him...It's the same as when he tells Alex that he has to "cut his hair so he won't look like a girl":rolleyes: It's ALEX'S head, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it...As long as my kids aren't doing something that can hurt themselves or anyone else, then they can express themselves however they like...Their dad cannot comprehend that concept AT ALL...But, he doesn't really come around very often, so it's not so bad now

See thats another thing that gets on my nerve, if your gonna make babies you gotta take care of them, i really hate worthless garbage like that. Especially since my baby sister got pregnant by one of those assholes. But hey, its her body, let her screw whatever scumbag she wants...... yeah.... that really touched a nerve... I really really wanna go kill that guy now.... soo... on the note of the cookies... I have my own recepie for Rocky Road Cookies, If you want I can put it up for ya, its really good!

[dewaholic]

[QUOTE=bloodrayne;625885]That nearly made me choke on my drink...haha

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that's what I'm here for. Well not to make ya choke, but to make ya laugh.

[Psycom5k]

Well then, I should wear a cup or something, because I'M the one who operates the grill at MY house...hahaha

Lmfao, that would look kinda weird/gross, a woman with a bulge... lol

[Roderick Usher]

Granted this comes from a househusband who has been in Broadway musicals and worked as a chef so take it or leave it, but this is what I teach my boys...

A MAN shows respect for himself and those around him, understands the implications of his words and actions and never allows popular sentiment to affect his value system.

A MAN does what is right BECAUSE it is right and needs no praise for doing so.

A MAN shows affection and compassion because to withhold these things for fear of how one appears is childish.

A MAN will always change the subject when a woman asks "does this make me look fat?" because the question itself is a trap and the best response is something along the lines of..."did you say you wanted to go dancing tonight?"

[bloodrayne]

Granted this comes from a househusband who has been in Broadway musicals and worked as a chef so take it or leave it, but this is what I teach my boys...

A MAN shows respect for himself and those around him, understands the implications of his words and actions and never allows popular sentiment to affect his value system.

A MAN does what is right BECAUSE it is right and needs no praise for doing so.

A MAN shows affection and compassion because to withhold these things for fear of how one appears is childish.

A MAN will always change the subject when a woman asks "does this make me look fat?" because the question itself is a trap and the best response is something along the lines of..."did you say you wanted to go dancing tonight?"
Aww, that was sweet, sincere, intelligent AND humorous...See? You guys totally get my point

No wonder I love you guys so much :)

[Psycom5k]

Granted this comes from a househusband who has been in Broadway musicals and worked as a chef so take it or leave it, but this is what I teach my boys...
Hey thats cool, I've seen a couple of broadway plays through this job i used to have. I've seen Sweeny Todd(if thats how you spell it, I'm kinda drunk:p ) And I love prolly the gayest broadway play out there, La Cage Aux Folles (yeah not sure on the spelling either). That was the gayest play on broadway, seriously, but in a good way. It was hilarious. Ya know there was this one off-broadway show i wanted to see called Menopause: The Musical, just cause of the name... wow I sound really really gay right now.... but I swear to god I like women. I mean it...lol

A MAN will always change the subject when a woman asks "does this make me look fat?" because the question itself is a trap and the best response is something along the lines of..."did you say you wanted to go dancing tonight?"
that or you could always go with, " I think you look better with it off." That always worked for me.

[Marley's Ghost]

What Is A Man
Is The Query Of The Day
After A Little Pondering
This Is What I Say

A Man Is Tough
Strong And Bold
Yet Gentle As A Kitten
When Captured In Womans Hold

A Man Is The Hunter
Gatherer Of Lifes Needs
Bringer Of Food
Of Which His Family Feeds

Since The Dawn Of Time
Man Has Done These Tasks
Searched The World Over
For What His Woman Asks

My Poem May Sound Sexist
But This Is Not My Intent
My Woman Is On A Pedastal
She Is Truly Heaven Sent

She Is The Giver Of Life
She Owns My Heart And My Soul
Without Her In My Life
I Would Never Be Whole

A Man Is Many Things
Without Woman He Would Fade
I Should Print This Out And Show Her
Maybe I'd Get Laid

[zwoti]

what makes a male person a 'MAN'


"what makes a man, mr lebowski? is it being prepared to do the right thing? whatever the price? isn't that what makes a man?"

"Sure. that and a pair of testicles."

[novakru]

A Real Man knows he is a far better human because of the Real Woman that stands beside him.



@MTC:That quote is from Total Recall...and I'll be waiting for my 5 cents in the mail:D

[The STE]

Outside of fiction, I have no interest in being "a man" or "manliness." Any definition would almost invariably have to be a blanket ideal, and I don't believe in those. I think just not being a piece of shit should be enough without throwing arbitrary gender-based terminology on it. The old-school "drink and fight and drive a big truck, John Wayne" shit doesn't work for me because I don't like the taste of alcohol, trucks drive like shit, and John Wayne made, what, one or two good movies? I exclude fighting because I'm not all "oh, fighting is just stupid" types. Just don't act like fighting is going to prove anything other than who can fight better. And many of the "new school" ideals either should just be universal "don't be a douche" rules or are double standards? Don't ever hit women? Bullshit. Don't be a wife/girlfriend/woman beater, sure. But if someone is doing something that you would hit them for, reproductive organs shouldn't be the deciding factor. Maybe this is my months-long physically abusive relationship talking, but fuck that "never hit women ever" noise. Out-dated, double standard, SEXIST bullshit.
Back to "what makes a man" question; the only valid answer I can think of is "who gives a shit?"

[Vodstok]

You all sound like abunch of apron wearing queers, prancing around talking about feelings and shit.


MEN like to beat and kill things, drive big trucks and sports cars. Wear muscle shirts and drink cheap beer. Yell at things and people. Get pissed off when questioned.

Thank god im just a pathetic geek.

a big, tall geek who seems immune to getting picked on for all of the things manly men seem to hate.

I am the cook in the house, because i like to and i am damn good at it. Most "men" dont really grill, they burn shit on expensive bonfires.

I completely agree with anyone who says guys who drive big trucks and harleys, then rev their engines and drive like assholes are tiny-penised little bitches. Deep inside, they are crying because dad or some other role model called them a pussy or a fag one time.

Real men laugh when they get called those things. I usually say, think what you want, if your opinion mattered, i might stick around and listen to it.

[dewaholic]

[QUOTE=The STE;626091]Don't ever hit women? Bullshit. Don't be a wife/girlfriend/woman beater, sure. But if someone is doing something that you would hit them for, reproductive organs shouldn't be the deciding factor. Maybe this is my months-long physically abusive relationship talking, but fuck that "never hit women ever" noise. Out-dated, double standard, SEXIST bullshit.
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I totally agree. It should be a fair fight. Although I'd get my ass kicked if I unsuccesfully choked a guy. (& I'm not talking about choking his chicken)

[crabapple]

Dude, a pissed off woman will slap the shit out of a guy, just start beating and kicking him and hitting him. I've seen it! (drinks)

[Phalanx]

So, What Exactly IS A 'MAN'?
It's my jimmy, and my balls is his boys.

But seriously...a "man", in my opinion is someone of the male gender (ya think?)
that can conduct himself in a decent, respectful manner, not on the basis of wanting to be perceived a certain way, but because they can see the reflective positivity in life and others by doing so. A person who can be strong without the need to show it to the world, sad without the need to hide it, loving in the way he feels he ought to be - not how others tell him.
A fella that can admit he's wrong, at least some of the time, without finding a counterpoint as to why that makes it all ok.
Someone that will stand by what they feel is right, regardless of the immediate situation it may put them in, a person who will make the same stand on a friends behalf when they cannot.
A person who leads by example.
...and someone who cooks, most importantly.

[ferretchucker]

I've just been reading some of your posts bloodrayne and you really are the mother of everybody on this forum. You are the one we all respect and look up to. You're the authority figure as well. So...who's the dad? Zwoti? __V__? Newb? Urgeok?

[Marya Zaleska]

Heh...Do you guys EVER get tired of feeling like my 'test subjects'?...I can't help it, human psychology enthralls me...So, please just humor me, huh? :)[/QUOTE]

A sense of humor I have and I can certainly humor you! Hehehe! Lol!

[ferretchucker]

i'm saying lol but I didn't laugh out loud, though it was rather funny. Here I go.


Lol!

[The STE]

Dude, a pissed off woman will slap the shit out of a guy, just start beating and kicking him and hitting him. I've seen it! (drinks)

Dude, I got punched in the side of the head twice by that girl. Why? Because I was trying to go to class rather than talking to her.

[crabapple]

...and someone who cooks, most importantly.

That's what I'm talking about!~

[Phalanx]

I'll restrain a "bitch gone wild" kinda chick...which is sometimes my girlfriend...in a way so that further attacks are impossible and/or uncomfortable, but I wouldn't straight up smack one around...you can get the message that you'd rather not fight 'em across without swinging.

The only time I'd ever consider more would be if my chick was being beat down by another girl, might maybe go so far as to push over or throw off...I think that'd be sufficient...all honesty, that's not about to happen to her anyhows.

[newb]

A man has a pee pee and a woman has a vagina.

[The STE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaJP5aeSo4Y
I'd totally do that.

[ManchestrMorgue]

This is an interesting topic...

I really abhor the whole "fighting/drinking/truck driving" mentality. It just seems... dumb.

Media/film tends to portray this mentality as simple, but harmless and likeable. Think of TV shows like the Dukes of Hazzard, etc. (which I did quite like at the time).

However the darker side of this mentality is abusive and lacks empathy.

These "Men" (by which I mean the macho stereotype rather than the male gender for the purposes of this discussion) profess to love and protect their family but at the same time are abusive to the family that they proclaim they protect. It seems to be that they feel that only they have the right to abuse their family...

I think what really frustrates me is the general lack of empathy - how "Men" can appear totally oblivious to the feelings and rights of others is boggling. Fighting, using physical force get what one wants without a care for the negative impacts it has on others... A lack of mental capacity or antisocial traits? A combination perhaps?

I have tried to live my life at least trying to consider what effects my actions would have on others, and act accordingly. Although I sure as hell haven't been perfect.

Where I live we have recently had a number of scandals with football players being accused of sexual assaults/rapes and other acts. These are the archetype of the "Man", and this is one of the more blatant examples of the the darker side of the stereotype that I mentioned earlier. As a result, I can't watch the game anymore - I can't support this sort of mentality. But society does. Society puts it on a pedestal.

[Zero]

I've just been reading some of your posts bloodrayne and you really are the mother of everybody on this forum. You are the one we all respect and look up to. You're the authority figure as well. So...who's the dad? Zwoti? __V__? Newb? Urgeok?

obviously its the most mature and sensible member



ME

[massacre man]

I've just been reading some of your posts bloodrayne and you really are the mother of everybody on this forum. You are the one we all respect and look up to. You're the authority figure as well. So...who's the dad? Zwoti? __V__? Newb? Urgeok?

I'm the asshole stepfather that breaks whiskey bottles over your heads while you sleep, Austin is the real father, but he got tired of Zero's shit-flinging ways and a certain someone's fetish for long and hairy creatures so he packed up the cats and left all you little fuckers, that's when I stepped in on the rebound and made an honest woman out of your mother while she was still stunned by the fact the father of her 1,000+ kids just peaced out and made all you little bastards... well... little bastards.

[crabapple]

oh my god, EW!!

[Zero]

ouch that hurts. . . .i fling pooh in your general direction

[massacre man]

You think flingin' shit makes you a man!? I'm a real fuckin' man, I lost 3 arms in 'Nam and still kept Hitler from crushing all the Canadians with his steam roller. After you get some hair on your puny little nutsack talk to me then, until then, you're just a little fagboy. *throws whiskey bottle*

[newb]

You think flingin' shit makes you a man!? I'm a real fuckin' man, I lost 3 arms in 'Nam and still kept Hitler from crushing all the Canadians with his steam roller. After you get some hair on your puny little nutsack talk to me then, until then, you're just a little fagboy. *throws whiskey bottle*

There ya go.......this MAN deserves the lyrics

Now when I was a little boy,
At the age of five,
I had somethin in my pocket,
Keep a lot of folks alive.

Now Im a man,
Made twenty-one,
You know baby,
We can have a lot of fun.

Im a man,
I spell m-a-n...man.

All you pretty women,
Stand in line,
I can make love to you baby,
In an hours time.

Im a man,
I spell m-a-n...man.

I goin back down,
To kansas to
Bring back the second cousin,
Little john the conqueroo.

Im a man,
I spell m-a-n...man.

The line I shoot,
Will never miss,
The way I make love to em,
They cant resist.

Im a man,
I spell m-a-n...man.

[massacre man]

You better believe I deserve that shit I fought in the Civil War to keep fuckers like you from getting raped in the back of Adam and Eve's god damn Lunar Lander. I lost my dick twice but I still got it back, because I'm a fucking man. I ate my first wife because the bitch forgot to go grocery shopping, that's a real man! I threw my kid out of a speeding car for rolling down the window when I had the air conditioner on, that's a real man. *throws whiskey bottle* Old fucker.

[Dude Guadalupe]

obviously its the most mature and sensible member



ME


Bwahahahahahaha.........mature






you also said member

[meetthecreeper]

A Real Man knows he is a far better human because of the Real Woman that stands beside him.



@MTC:That quote is from Total Recall...and I'll be waiting for my 5 cents in the mail:D


Mail??? I only pay in person. Now give me your address....really its OK:eek: :p

[Spallalala]

To me a man must have the following qualities..

- cook
- clean
- not be afraid to clean up a dirty cat litter
- be able to cry without getting embarassed
- cool with buying tampons and condoms
- a love for all animal life
- saying "thankyou" " sorry' and such things
- doesn't size up every guy that comes near him.
- doesn't hit a chick..thats fucking wrong no matter how you look at it.
- lets either their chick or others be themselves and doesn't try to change them.
- not be afraid to speak there mind but not to the point where they are in punch ups.
- knows how to wash themselves...grooming is essential.

And I hate coming across anyone that says a womens place is in the kitchen...EQUALITY you assholes.

[Vodstok]

To me a man must have the following qualities..

- cook
- clean
- not be afraid to clean up a dirty cat litter
- be able to cry without getting embarassed
- cool with buying tampons and condoms
- a love for all animal life
- saying "thankyou" " sorry' and such things
- doesn't size up every guy that comes near him.
- doesn't hit a chick..thats fucking wrong no matter how you look at it.
- lets either their chick or others be themselves and doesn't try to change them.
- not be afraid to speak there mind but not to the point where they are in punch ups.
- knows how to wash themselves...grooming is essential.

And I hate coming across anyone that says a womens place is in the kitchen...EQUALITY you assholes.

Hey, my wife's place is in the kitchen... With the kid...




Sitting and waiting for me to finish making dinner :)

Then waiting for me to finish the dishes.

[massacre man]

Oh yeah, let me tell y'all somethin', why shouldn't women drive? 'Cause there ain't no road between the kitchen and the bedroom! Haha! *throws whiskey bottle*

[The STE]

- doesn't hit a chick..thats fucking wrong no matter how you look at it.
...
...EQUALITY you assholes.

Do I really even need to say anything?

[Marya Zaleska]

Heh...Do you guys EVER get tired of feeling like my 'test subjects'?...I can't help it, human psychology enthralls me...So, please just humor me, huh? :)[/QUOTE]

I will humor you with humor! OK

Clothes doesn't necessarily make the man! Lol!

[Disease]

Where is this suppose to go, I'm a man, so what?

[Asar]

The ultimate way to define a man is by how much pussy he nails.

[The STE]

I'd make a "nine inch nails" reference, but I don't want to make my unit sound that small.

[bloodrayne]

The ultimate way to define a man is by how much pussy he nails.
No, I think that's how you define a man with the most STDs

[massacre man]

No, I think that's how you define a man with the most STDs

But still a man, a man with a rotten dick, but still a man.

[The STE]

Hey, you guys, watch what you say about Gorephobia!

[Asar]

Another measure of manliness is cock length. That's always a surefire way to judge. Plus, the dudes with the really long cocks usually nail the most pussy too. It obviously has something to do with confidence.

[bloodrayne]

Hey, you guys, watch what you say about Gorephobia!
HAHAHA...No comment


Well, I suppose THAT was sort of a comment :p

[Asar]

Another measure of manliness is cock length. That's always a surefire way to judge. Plus, the dudes with the really long cocks usually nail the most pussy too. It obviously has something to do with confidence.



IT's also obvious that both of these factors are very closely linked to one another.

End of thread.

[Zero]

Another measure of manliness is cock length. That's always a surefire way to judge. Plus, the dudes with the really long cocks usually nail the most pussy too. It obviously has something to do with confidence.


boring and pathetic

[bloodrayne]

Another measure of manliness is cock length. That's always a surefire way to judge. Plus, the dudes with the really long cocks usually nail the most pussy too. It obviously has something to do with confidence.
Really?...It's been my experience that a 'man with confidence' never needs to discuss his cock size...But, I suppose there's a possibility that you have known more men than I have

BTW...I have NEVER been impressed by cock size...Personality, honesty and intelligence are far more important

A complete idiot wouldn't have a clue what to do with a big dick, so it would be kinda useless, and most assholes don't get a chance to use it no matter how big it is, unless they're willing to screw the sluts that will sleep with ANYTHING, which is what the assholes usually end up with by default...

Personally...Length doesn't matter to me...I prefer width

[bloodrayne]

IT's also obvious that both of these factors are very closely linked to one another.

End of thread.That's odd...I have quite a bit of confidence...And my dick is so small you can't even see it:rolleyes:

[The STE]

I'm confident and all I ever DO is talk about my veiny pants-hose.

[Asar]

I'm confident and all I ever DO is talk about my veiny pants-hose.


I've been using a male enhancement pump for three years now. There isn't even an accurate description of the enormity of my giant cock. I'm not kidding.

[The STE]

I can think of a very apt description: Smaller than mine. Seriously, dude, you don't want to get into a dick measuring contest. Mine will absorb yours like a river absorbing a drop of water.

[Asar]

I can think of a very apt description: Smaller than mine. Seriously, dude, you don't want to get into a dick measuring contest. Mine will absorb yours like a river absorbing a drop of water.


One of my nicknames is "Tripod". That one started up prior to me getting my enhancement pump, too.

[crabapple]

Funny, renob was calling himself Tripod, too.

[Asar]

Funny, renob was calling himself Tripod, too.


I don't give a damn about any of these losers. I'm the ONLY Tripod. I'm the original, and everyone around my way knows it. There's posers everywhere, but I EARNED the Name TRIPOD and no-one else deserves it!

[The STE]

I can't be a tripod. They have 3 same-sized legs, and I've got one that's bigger than the other two.

[mordrid]

Been gone for a while and while this thread been dead a few days, I still felt the need to post.

A Man:
Someone who shows respect, faces his responsibilities, protects his loved ones, teaches his children morals, never uses violence unless there is no other recourse, is honest, trustworthy, and finally, true to himself.


This BS over cooking not being manly is stupid. I have been a cook all my life. I also spent 7 yrs in the military, weight lift, played HS football and wrestling. I would like someone to tell me I am not a man because I can bake apple turnovers. I make some manly apple turnovers I tell you

[LoudLon]

If there's anything I've learned in my 36 years of packin' testacles it's that what makes a man a man is his heart. It's got nothing to do with how much money he makes, how tough he is, or how many women he's bedded.

If he's true to himself and others, is kind, respectful, honest, honorable, compassionate, understanding, loyal and works hard to provide for his family, protect them and show them all the love they could ever hope for, I'd say that's about as good a man as there is.

[Psycom5k]

wow is this thread still going or something?? I thought it died a while ago...

[Vodstok]

If there's anything I've learned in my 36 years of packin' testacles


This is so ripe for a gay joke...


but i'll take the high road. You've been working at a factory that ships mountain oysters?

[AUSTIN316426808]

A 'real' man is a grown male of the human race.

A 'real' person is someone who handles their responsibilities, takes care of theirself and their own, protects theirself and their own by any means and treats others how they want to be treated.

That can be a man or woman.

[LoudLon]

This is so ripe for a gay joke...


but i'll take the high road. You've been working at a factory that ships mountain oysters?

Crap. Walked right into that one, didn't I...