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X¤MurderDoll¤X
08-27-2007, 12:52 AM
tell me which one is better.
scarecrow666
08-27-2007, 12:59 AM
From what i've read and heard i would go with HD-DVD , as the picture is a lot better.If one has a 360 then its a good relatively cheap option. IMHO.
But then i've never been keen on anything Sony anyway.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17280314/
ManchestrMorgue
08-27-2007, 02:06 AM
Personally I am holding off getting either of these. I can't imagine that there will be room in the long run for two formats. (eg VHS and Beta). I don't want to be left with a heap of discs for which the format is no longer supported.
I am usually an early adopter, but not in this case.
Despare
08-27-2007, 06:58 AM
I'm not going with either yet, not until there's a winner. The industry cannot have two seperate formats and while these two are duking it out DVD is the better option. I would just get a good upconvert DVD player and continue to watch DVDs.
scarecrow666
08-27-2007, 10:33 AM
I have a feeling that there would be no winners , i feel both formats will just excist side by side. IMO
I'm not going with either yet, not until there's a winner. The industry cannot have two seperate formats and while these two are duking it out DVD is the better option. I would just get a good upconvert DVD player and continue to watch DVDs.
There ya go
scarecrow666
08-27-2007, 11:21 AM
I'm not going with either yet, not until there's a winner. The industry cannot have two seperate formats and while these two are duking it out DVD is the better option. I would just get a good upconvert DVD player and continue to watch DVDs.
It will take a very long time.;)
Angra
08-27-2007, 11:21 AM
Why isn't a normal DVD good enough anymore??
How can they make the quality even better using blue or hd?
Egekrusher
08-27-2007, 03:03 PM
Here's how the market stands right now:
Blu-Ray has been out for some time now, almost 2 years. It has relatively little backing, very few DVDs released in the format.
HD-DVD, which is relatively new, already has a tremendous backing. It will more than likely take over as the industry standard. For one, there are no licensing fees for the technology as there are with Blu-Ray. For another, the quality is slightly better. There is also a fairly big array of titles to choose from already.
If you really need an option right now, go for HD-DVD.
Why isn't a normal DVD good enough anymore??
How can they make the quality even better using blue or hd?
Normal DVDs are fine on most television sets. Only with the newer HD sets do you really notice how grainy DVDs actually are. On my parent's 56 inch HD set, there is a HUGE difference between DVD and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray (they have both /sigh).
Angra
08-27-2007, 03:12 PM
Normal DVDs are fine on most television sets. Only with the newer HD sets do you really notice how grainy DVDs actually are. On my parent's 56 inch HD set, there is a HUGE difference between DVD and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray (they have both /sigh).
Thanks.
I kinda know what you mean.
tachii
08-27-2007, 05:53 PM
still not too keen on the thought of eventually having to switch
i own way too many DVDS to start all over again :eek:
illdojo
08-27-2007, 07:00 PM
still not too keen on the thought of eventually having to switch
i own way too many DVDS to start all over again :eek:
Ditto.......
crabapple
08-27-2007, 09:41 PM
I don't need another DVD format right now. Heck, I still buy VHS tapes!
GetrDone
08-27-2007, 11:32 PM
Without a doubt Blu-Ray for me even though I like HD too. The PS3 is dedicated to Blu-Ray while the Xbox 360 has an option for an add on HD player. PS3 games are being made on Blu-Ray. And there is no way they will ever drop off. The picture quality is better than HD. I just got my free PS3 a couple weeks ago and I cannot believe what all the PS3 can do. I got it mainly because of the Blu-Ray feature but man this thing is awesome. I will use HD as well though =)
And here is a clip from wikipedia about Blu-Ray Supporters:
"Blu-ray Disc has gained a large amount of support in the corporate world,[33] with companies such as Apple Inc., Dell, and Panasonic supporting it. Blu-ray Disc was first developed as a joint venture between Sony Corporation and Philips (inventor of the Compact Cassette, Laserdisc, and Compact Disc) in 2002[34] as a next generation data and video storage format alternative to DVD."
And another :
"Currently, Blu-ray Disc is exclusively supported by Sony Pictures Entertainment and MGM (both owned by Sony) as well as Disney, 20th Century Fox, and Lionsgate. It is non-exclusively supported by Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema. Several members of the Blu-ray organization's Board of Directors, such as Hewlett-Packard, Samsung, and LG, pledged support to Blu-ray Disc, and later, also supported HD DVD."
Blu-Ray isn't going anywhere. If anything they will co-exist
AmericanManiac
08-28-2007, 04:15 AM
We have a sony fan boy :D, I started buying the movies in the HD/DVD combo pack. After doing a LITTLE research imo I think HD will come out on top, just read EgeKrusher response. It's nice to have the Combo Disc because they can still be played on a standard DVD player, then when the time comes pick up a HD player!
Despare
08-28-2007, 05:50 AM
The exclusivity thing is stupid. First you have the Blu Ray camp touting how Sony, Dinsey, etc... are exclusive to them and then they say the Paramount deal (Paramount is backing HD) is hurting consumers. This "format wars" is a joke and if BluRay and HD continue to co-exist their sales will never be great.
In six months (January 1st - July 1st 2007) HD DVD and Blu Ray about 2.34 million copies of movies. X-Men: The Last Stand alone sold over 5 million copies in it's first week on DVD. The market isn't ready...
Egekrusher
08-28-2007, 08:01 AM
The exclusivity thing is stupid. First you have the Blu Ray camp touting how Sony, Dinsey, etc... are exclusive to them and then they say the Paramount deal (Paramount is backing HD) is hurting consumers. This "format wars" is a joke and if BluRay and HD continue to co-exist their sales will never be great.
In six months (January 1st - July 1st 2007) HD DVD and Blu Ray about 2.34 million copies of movies. X-Men: The Last Stand alone sold over 5 million copies in it's first week on DVD. The market isn't ready...
Indeed, the market is definitely not ready yet. One of the cheapest HD-DVD players with HDMI connectors is over 500 dollars. The technology isn't cheap enough yet, and very few people even have television sets that are capable of showing the difference in quality.
Despare
08-28-2007, 08:36 AM
Indeed, the market is definitely not ready yet. One of the cheapest HD-DVD players with HDMI connectors is over 500 dollars. The technology isn't cheap enough yet, and very few people even have television sets that are capable of showing the difference in quality.
Exactly, and even the ones who do aren't all ready to adopt. I have and HDMI input, a DVI input, and multiple component inputs yet an upconvert player makes my DVDs look pretty close to on par with BluRay.
ManchestrMorgue
08-28-2007, 09:14 AM
The players themselves are expensive, but this is a pittance compared to what we are likely to spend on discs.
I have spent thousands on DVDs. I don't mind doing this.
What I would mind is spending thousands on a format that fails in the market, and then having to re-buy them because eventually the players to play them will just not be available (a la Betamax).
DVDs have been the dominant format for many years now, and these newer format players are backwards compatible, so DVD is a safe bet. However blu-ray/HD-DVD do not have enough market share to be a safe bet. Even the fact that blu-ray is in PS3 does not make it a safe bet as a movie format - consoles have a relatively limited useful life.
Elvis_Christ
08-28-2007, 05:12 PM
Neither. VHS forever motherfuckers!
The Mothman
08-28-2007, 05:16 PM
Im sticking with DVD.
tachii
08-28-2007, 08:08 PM
as if the HDVD/blu ray switch wasn't inconvienance enough; it is estimated that by 2009 the change from analog broadcasting to digital will begin. so what does this mean? with over 20mil in traditional cable subscribers relting on over air signals television viewing will be affected; as well as subscribers of sattelite services who recieve over air sigs. on secondary units (tv sets). in order to aid in the transition a transition campaign website has been launched (www.DTVtransition.org)
so how does this relate to the topic? by the end of this year consumers will no longer have to choose between compeating formats as Samsung (first with the blu ray player) will issue a dual-format high-def player. this system will fully support HDVD as well as blu ray.
not really sure whether this solves the problem or makes it worse; i honestly feel a new format was unnecessarily presented with the overall acceptance of DVD. only time will tell which format is accepted by the public.
Phalanx
08-29-2007, 02:00 AM
blu ray or HD DVD?
Who gives a shit?
...Both.
three words: hot monkey sex
The STE
08-30-2007, 07:05 PM
I'll wait and see which side Criterion falls under. Hi Def may give you the sharpest picture, but if you're watching an old movie with a less that great transfer, every little imperfection in that film print is going to show up crystal clear. Criterion has the best DVD picture quality, so I can't imagine them not having the best next-gen picture quality as well.
tachii
08-31-2007, 11:15 PM
three words: hot monkey sex
that's cool...i guess:confused:
X¤MurderDoll¤X
09-01-2007, 06:59 AM
Who gives a shit?
I do, I need to decide which one to buy. ;)
hd dvd - this will survive, blu ray will not
paws the great
09-01-2007, 07:39 AM
hd dvd - this will survive, blu ray will not
I hope you're right!:)
trust me - the monkey sees all
X¤MurderDoll¤X
09-01-2007, 07:41 PM
ok HD DVD it is
now what about sound? :)
Phalanx
09-02-2007, 03:50 AM
Yeah, you probably want one with sound.
doctor satan
09-02-2007, 07:15 AM
Theirs a lot of people talking shit in this thread. I don't claim to know all the facts & yes i'm biased because i've got a PS3. If anyone wants to look into Hi-Def formats you could try looking here:
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=17058
rather than listening to a load of fan boy crap spouted by clueless fuckwitts.........
paws the great
09-02-2007, 07:21 AM
i'm biased because i've got a PS3.:
.........
I have a PS3 and a HD-DVD player.
I'm not biased.........I'm confused!:D
Despare
09-02-2007, 07:22 AM
ok HD DVD it is
now what about sound? :)
Get a good receiver make sure there's an optical out on the player you get and an input on the receiver.
Buy loud speakers.
Phalanx
09-02-2007, 03:26 PM
rather than listening to a load of fan boy crap spouted by clueless fuckwitts.........
I work for Playstation...yet I'd be a clueless fuckwit fanboy if I were to ignore the HD/DVD format being a contender.
It's still early going yet - both have good features, so it's up to each individual user to say "this is what I'm after".
Personally, I'd buy both...if not straight away, at least eventually.
Despare
09-02-2007, 07:51 PM
This is why I'm waiting...
"What Comes After Blu-Ray and HD-DVD? Holographic Versatile Disc
It may sound like something that would be found on the Starship
Enterprise, but the Holographic Versatile Disc is apparently the next
(next) generation of optical storage.
A HVD disc could hold as much data as 200 standard DVDs (that's 1
Terrebyte) and transfer data 40 times faster.
The Holographic Versatile Disc Alliance has been formed to flesh out
standards for this new technology which is based on holography
breakthroughs from Japan's Optware, one of the six founders of the
consortium.
Optware describes on its website how holographic recording technology
records data on discs in the form of laser interference fringes.
Other members of the alliance include CMC Magnetics Corporation, Fuji
Photo Film, Nippon Paint Co. Ltd., Pulstec Industrial Co., Ltd. and
TOAGOSEI CO., LTD.,"
wowwawewa
09-03-2007, 03:19 PM
HD-DVD! Xbox360 rules and I believe will win the fight hands down. :rolleyes:
VampiricClown
09-03-2007, 03:24 PM
I'm not going with either yet, not until there's a winner. The industry cannot have two seperate formats and while these two are duking it out DVD is the better option. I would just get a good upconvert DVD player and continue to watch DVDs.
Indeed. I must agree with you.
AmericanManiac
09-04-2007, 04:43 AM
This is why I'm waiting...
"What Comes After Blu-Ray and HD-DVD? Holographic Versatile Disc"
I've read about this last year, do we know around when though ? I just picked up a HDTV a few days ago, and I must say it looks GREAT!
Despare
09-05-2007, 04:26 PM
I've had an HD TV for a while, I don't tend to wait for new technology to come along but two formats just won't work for me. ESPECIALLY with different production companies backing different formats. So if something doesn't come along between HDDVD/BluRay and Holographic then I guess upconverted DVDs will get me through. Besides, the real reason I switched from VHS to DVD was the fact that my tapes were stretching, but a properly cared for DVD can last forever (laser rot isn't even an issue like it was with lasedisc).