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alkytrio666

06-16-2007, 04:53 PM

jenna26

06-18-2007, 11:10 AM

Well, this isn't good news. I was hoping that was just a rumor. Why the hell would anyone support a PG=13 rated Die Hard?? That really is completely ridiculous.

Doc Faustus

06-18-2007, 11:38 AM

Yippie kay ay motherfudger.

Despare

06-19-2007, 02:36 PM

the_real_linda

06-19-2007, 02:51 PM

i know i know

its called die hard 4.0 over here.......... and ive lost all respect for kevin smith for being in it.....tut tut

Elvis_Christ

06-19-2007, 04:48 PM

Lame. I will still end up watching it anyways for old time sake.

Vodstok

06-19-2007, 06:05 PM

Well, this isn't good news. I was hoping that was just a rumor. Why the hell would anyone support a PG=13 rated Die Hard?? That really is completely ridiculous.
Not too much of a surprise. Worse travesties have been commited. Example:

Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection: Rated R
Predator, Predator 2: R

Aliens Vs Predator Games: MA

Aliens Vs Predator Movie: PG-13

Kids who cant buy the games or walk out of a store with any of the movies it derives from could see AvP and its soon to be suck-ass sequal in the theater.

azathoth777

06-20-2007, 07:41 AM

I could care less about Die Hard, but it does seem alittle stupid to make such a movie as this in a PG-13 form. It seems that studios maybe getting afraid to make big budget/blockbusters movies R. They want to get as many viewers as possible, including all the little kiddies.

newb

06-20-2007, 08:20 AM

I could care less about ratings personally, if it's good it's good and if it sucks it sucks from G through XXX.

pretty much my feelings.

and xXx did suck.....especially the second one.

jenna26

06-20-2007, 09:47 AM

They can say it once in a PG13 movie right? It's not like this one has Samuel L. in it...

I could care less about ratings personally, if it's good it's good and if it sucks it sucks from G through XXX.

I wouldn't have a problem with a PG-13 rating on the first film in a new action series starring Bruce Willis. A rating wouldn't matter then, like you said it will either be good, or it won't.
I do have a problem with a PG-13 rating of a film that continues a series of R rated films. It changes the tone, and the character of the previous films, it would have to to get the rating. Which, in my opinion, will make it a pale imitation of the Die Hard films rather than a Die Hard film.

alkytrio666

06-20-2007, 11:23 AM

Exactly. It would literally be like making the new Halloween PG-13.

Die Hard is the pinnacle of violent, high-octane action.

The_Return

06-20-2007, 11:51 AM

In all honesty though, look at the Die Hard movies for sec - the violence really isnt R by today's standards anyway. The only thing that gave With a Vengeance an R rather than a PG-13 was the language. The only thing that'll be missing from this will be a little bit of cursing...we all know that they wont cut the classic line, and beyond that who cares if they swear at all?

And as for complaining about Fantastic Four and Evan Almighty being PG - for God's sake, why wouldn't they be? They're both aimed at a younger audience, and have no need for excessive violence/swearing/sex. I cant vouch for Evan Almighty yet, but FF: RotSS managed to have some pretty damn cool action scenes despite the rating. The Thing didnt rip people's limbs off in gory detail, we didnt get to see Reed and Sue getting it on...would that really have made the movie better?

Ratings are bullshit anyway.

jenna26

06-21-2007, 08:18 AM

In all honesty though, look at the Die Hard movies for sec - the violence really isnt R by today's standards anyway. The only thing that gave With a Vengeance an R rather than a PG-13 was the language. The only thing that'll be missing from this will be a little bit of cursing...we all know that they wont cut the classic line, and beyond that who cares if they swear at all?

Maybe I am remembering wrong, but I remember some pretty graphic violence in Die Hard with a Vengeance. The scene in the elevator, Simon's female companion slicing a guy up pretty savagely (I can't remember her name). There was quite a bit of blood, not these almost "clean" deaths we often see in PG-13 films.
Also, who cares? Again, I wouldn't care, if it was a DIFFERENT character......but John McClane is rough around the edges, the man swears outside of the classic line. That's the character they created. So they are toning down the character to get a rating. No matter which way I look at it, this is Die Hard Lite.

Dante'sInferno

06-21-2007, 08:30 AM

I just think Holywood is slowly trying to put more violence in PG-13 movies.So they can slowly allow more in R-rated movies.

Vodstok

06-21-2007, 08:58 AM

Maybe I am remembering wrong, but I remember some pretty graphic violence in Die Hard with a Vengeance. The scene in the elevator, Simon's female companion slicing a guy up pretty savagely (I can't remember her name). There was quite a bit of blood, not these almost "clean" deaths we often see in PG-13 films.
Also, who cares? Again, I wouldn't care, if it was a DIFFERENT character......but John McClane is rough around the edges, the man swears outside of the classic line. That's the character they created. So they are toning down the character to get a rating. No matter which way I look at it, this is Die Hard Lite.

Go back to the first die hard when Hans shoots Takagi in the head. Rarely do you see that much blood hit glass in an action movie. Not to mention later on after he shoots Ellis (i think), they do a pan around his body, and you can see city lights through the hole in his head....

jenna26

06-21-2007, 09:46 AM

Go back to the first die hard when Hans shoots Takagi in the head. Rarely do you see that much blood hit glass in an action movie. Not to mention later on after he shoots Ellis (i think), they do a pan around his body, and you can see city lights through the hole in his head....

Right, they are violent movies and are meant to be violent. Even by today's standards.

Dante: I personally think they are allowing a bit more violence in PG-13 movies so they can slowly release even less R rated movies in the theaters. R rated movies make less money. They are trying to reach a broader audience. I also find it a bit disturbing that movies are allowed to show a certain amount of violence, and a lot of times violence that doesn't really show you how ugly violence can really be.......yet they have a problem with how many times someone can say a certain word in a film. There is something about that that is just wrong.....;)

Vodstok

06-21-2007, 10:12 AM

The standards the MPAA uses to rate films are inherently flawed, but then again, so is any system that tries to objectively quantify something as subjective "offensive" material. they are just guidelines, and the film producers are using them as a tool to squeeze as much money as they can out of each movie. Movies are often not made for staying power thesze days; they arent trying to produce classics, they are trying to make movies that will reap in more money than they shelled out for it.

Blockbusters are essentially the same as the soda they sell at the theater, over sweetened, middle of the road, but full of bright colors and pop to get you to shell out way too much cash for something that you will enjoy for a little while, but will ultimately feel empty and have to pee.

That being said, all of us have some hollow hollywood money vacuum we love despite cheesiness and obvious design for suckering out of cash., I still love independance day in spite of myself.

Kemal

06-21-2007, 05:39 PM

I can live with it. The previous movies weren't really deserving of an R anyway. Watching Bruce fucking up the bad guys is good, wholesome fun for the entire family.

Now if you want to see some real gore, wait until some asshole kids start talking in the theater in front of me.

Dante'sInferno

06-21-2007, 05:47 PM

DIE HARD!

IN THE THEATER!:cool:

Roderick Usher

06-21-2007, 05:48 PM

Now if you want to see some real gore, wait until some asshole kids start talking in the theater in front of me.

Just don't go see it at Union Station:D Hopefully it'll be at the Uptown!

_____V_____

06-21-2007, 05:55 PM

Its like handing Schwarzenegger of the 80s a frying pan...:rolleyes:

...although it just might be fun. Happy 4th July everyone!;)

Dante'sInferno

06-21-2007, 06:01 PM

Its like handing Schwarzenegger of the 80s a frying pan...:rolleyes:

...although it just might be fun. Happy 4th July everyone!;)He could just throw it at someones head and say....

YOU JUST GOT PWN3D!

_____V_____

06-21-2007, 06:13 PM

He could just throw it at someones head and say....

YOU JUST GOT PWN3D!

Actually it might be "I LL BE BACK...with a gun next time"...

:D

Dante'sInferno

06-21-2007, 06:15 PM

Actually it might be "I LL BE BACK...with a gun next time"...

:DBut you have to admit it would be funny as hell.Hearing him say that in his accent.

_____V_____

06-21-2007, 06:17 PM

You know how Bruce is gonna sound in this one?

Think Kevin, of Home Alone fame.:rolleyes:

Dante'sInferno

06-21-2007, 06:19 PM

You know how Bruce is gonna sound in this one?

Think Kevin, of Home Alone fame.:rolleyes:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Adrogenous/home_alone.jpgEh????

I could get over the high-pitched screams.

paws the great

06-22-2007, 12:09 AM

. The only thing that'll be missing from this will be a little bit of cursing....

And the blood!;)

Despare

06-22-2007, 05:28 AM

And the blood!;)

PG-13 movies are plenty bloody. Just relax, see if it's good, and judge then. People on here are complaining that Army of Darkness shouldn't have been rated R while others are upset about Live Free or Die Hard. MAYBE they made the movie... finished it... and only got a PG-13 rating. I'm sure they're just trying to make more cash but it is possible that the finished product really only warrented a PG-13.

alkytrio666

06-22-2007, 06:41 AM

PG-13 movies are plenty bloody. Just relax, see if it's good, and judge then. People on here are complaining that Army of Darkness shouldn't have been rated R while others are upset about Live Free or Die Hard. MAYBE they made the movie... finished it... and only got a PG-13 rating. I'm sure they're just trying to make more cash but it is possible that the finished product really only warrented a PG-13.
...then they didn't make it right. ;)

Despare

06-22-2007, 08:45 AM

...then they didn't make it right. ;)

lol

Maybe not but shouldn't we, you know, see first?

Roderick Usher

06-22-2007, 09:24 AM

Maybe not but shouldn't we, you know, see first?

No! I will not accept a rational argument! We must condemn! CONDEMN I SAY!

alkytrio666

06-22-2007, 09:45 AM

lol

Maybe not but shouldn't we, you know, see first?

http://morgue.anglicansonline.org/060122/images/issueart/060122/burn_at_stake2w.jpg

paws the great

06-22-2007, 03:24 PM

Despare

06-22-2007, 03:47 PM

Watching some PG-13 action movies is like watching old episodes of the A-Team!:eek:

I'm all for judging movies before they're released, complaining about things, talking about how bad actors and actresses are, and really bitching about life in general.

BUT...

I will hunt you down and burn you alive if you're talking shit about the A-Team...

(Then, after I burn you alive, I'll smile as I stand over your ashes and say: "I love it when a plan comes together.")

paws the great

06-22-2007, 05:09 PM

I'm all for judging movies before they're released, complaining about things, talking about how bad actors and actresses are, and really bitching about life in general.

BUT...

I will hunt you down and burn you alive if you're talking shit about the A-Team...

(Then, after I burn you alive, I'll smile as I stand over your ashes and say: "I love it when a plan comes together.")

:D

A lot of my favorite films are PG-13.

AngelDust24

06-26-2007, 04:51 PM

It's being advertised all over the place here, especially on buses.
Everytime I turn a corner, another bus with 4.0 is beside me.
My daughter wants to see it now...She's 7.
I told her she couldn't see it because it's the 4th in a series and the 1st one was an 18.(I think...at least a 15)
What now?
I sit down and watch the other 3 with her so she has a grip on the John McLean (sp) character?
I think not, she only knows that 'bad' words start with 'f' and 'sh'...She doesn't need to know that people will actually kill other people just to make a profit.(Or for any other reason)
Come on, have a clue..censorship people (don't know what they are called.:))
There are curious kids out there, they don't need to be shown violence like this, even if it is watered down for a PG13 audience, don't you think that they will ask, tell, the parents that they want to see the first 3.
Would you let you 7 year old watch all those?
Serious replies only....thnx...

P.S yes, she does watch 12's, I'm not being oppressive

Roderick Usher

06-26-2007, 04:56 PM

My boys (ages 4 & 10) love Die Hard. And no, it doesn't warp the kids, my 10 year old is a straight A student who's teacher this year told me that he's the best behaved kid in the whole school.

Parent as you wish, but do not fear for a little violence and a bad word here and there. Kids are far more resilient than adults.

corpse_grinder

06-29-2007, 10:46 PM

Live Free or Die Hard: PG-13.

I hope all of the pre-teen girls have fun having their mom's drive them to the movie theatre to see this one.

But seriously, it's getting rediculous.

Live Free or Die Hard: PG-13

Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer: PG

Evan Almighty: PG

Just ask the beer companies, we don't like our shit watered down.

YIPPE-KAY-EE, MISTER TRUCKER!

**blows raspberry**

The following post is rated PG13 all persons under 13 should be accompanied by an adult when viewing this post

Your right that f$@king B$@ws!! If Bruce f#@king Willis is gonna be in the m#%&er F@&ker I wanna see S#*t blowing the F@&k up!!

I mean really guns better be blazing a f@#king path and S%*t and F@&king guts better be hitting the screen!!

Movie studios they just dont F@*king get it!! :D

_____V_____

07-01-2007, 08:31 PM

Forget PG-13. This Die Hard is a riot!!

Watched it earlier this evening, and it is one of the best and coolest action flicks of this year (possibly since last year) yet!

Forget realism, forget surreality and plotlines and atmospheric stuff...just go get blown away John McClane style!!

Yippie Ki Yay Motherfucker!:cool:

(Yes, he says it, without even a blink and a cut):D

Shazbut

07-01-2007, 10:44 PM

:D I was never really a fan of action movies with the likes of Willis, Stone and Schwarzenegger until I watched the first Die Hard - and yes, I was blown away and have been hooked ever since.

On John McClane quotes, my favourite lines are from the first one. Picture him in the heating duct, in the dark, crawling along like a snake. He stops, lights up his lighter and, covered in sweat and blood, says (obviously repeating what his wife had said earlier on the phone to him): "Come to the coast, we'll get together, have a few laughs"

I love the sheer sarcasm and wit of that scene - love it!!! :D