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ds_spoon
01-11-2004, 04:03 AM
ok what supernatual monster,demon,ghost,aliens do you believe in??
i think they are real but not in a real form in peoples minds:D
predfan
01-11-2004, 04:06 AM
i dont really believe in ghosts...but then again i cant say for sure that they dont exist :(
ds_spoon
01-11-2004, 04:09 AM
ive seen ghosts but now i dont beleive the exsperiences are real i have searched up and found that basically all sightings are at night(when people are tired) and it is probably the unconcious part of you coming threw and giving dillousions:D
just my feary
but as you said i cannot be proved wrong or right:D
moonsorrow
01-11-2004, 05:11 AM
demon, ghost vampire and wearwolf...they are all just myth and folk tales, probabley told by drunken sailors or farmers
Ritualistic
01-11-2004, 05:20 AM
I believe in all things that go bump in the night..
Little trolls that live under bridges, Horrible vicious werewovles that tear little babies apart, ghosts that float over my bed and vomit on me, Vampires that suck beautiful blonde virgins dry.. woooooooooooooooo it just scares me to think of all this.. LMAO okay I will get real now.. I dunno I have mixed emotions about things like this..But I wont get into that.. I am tired.. :)
ds_spoon
01-11-2004, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by moonsorrow
demon, ghost vampire and wearwolf...they are all just myth and folk tales, probabley told by drunken sailors or farmers
lol:D
moonsorrow
01-11-2004, 05:35 AM
if your easily fooled though my charming smile could convince you im a vampire:D
ds_spoon
01-11-2004, 05:41 AM
im not easily fooled at all i would love for them to be real but i no their not just folk law made up so they could burn someone alive
for a good sport burn the vampire werewolf witch ect`
:D
moonsorrow
01-11-2004, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by ds_spoon
im not easily fooled at all i would love for them to be real but i no their not just folk law made up so they could burn someone alive
for a good sport burn the vampire werewolf witch ect`
:D
all that good entertainment is gone...a shame, but at least we still have ultimate fighting championship!
ds_spoon
01-11-2004, 05:47 AM
yeah UFC is awsome i watch it evertime its on tv
meetthecreeper
01-11-2004, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by ds_spoon
ok what supernatual monster,demon,ghost,aliens do you believe in??
i think they are real but not in a real form in peoples minds:D
Oh this could take a while, Dragons, unicorns, pegasus, things of that nature, I believe they exist for those that want to believe that they do. Maybe not on this plane of existance but on an etheral plane. Demons exists, ghosts and such. Aliens, I am sure they do I think it would be arrogant for the human race to believe that we are the only intellegent life in the universe. Pixies and fairies also known as leprachauns and elves and such, oh they exist, they like to steal things from you and return them later, especially shiny things. they do this to me all the time. I lose a chrome socket at work,after I just set it down and it disappears only to reappear in the same spot later. Sometimes I can hear their little giggles, my children see them all the time.
Vampyre, Vlad the Impaler comes to mind, Werewolves well could be were-anything not just wolves. Lycanthrope is a state of mind, changing yourself into animal form, Indians do it so do the Aboriginies, I have a few books on the subject, never tried it myself but I believe its possible. There is way to much of the human mind that is untapped and not in use, or we are not sure how to develop it. I know this sounds strange but I personally have ESP, I can communicate to my kids and people that I am really close 2 thru my mind. My lady gets mad at me some times for reading her thoughts. I can also tell when people are lying to me, I can only do this face to face though and it kind of makes it hard to keep friends sometimes. I also developed the art of invisibility, learned it from the martial arts, Ninjas did this in ancient Japan, you dont really turn invisible you just make people think that your not there. I know it sounds crazy but I can tell you many people have witnessed it.
starseed
01-11-2004, 10:27 AM
I not only believe in the paranormal, I live with it everyday. As a professional psychic, it’s my job. Even on a simple trip to the grocery store, running into a ghost or mischievous spirit is not uncommon.
Before I explain myself, let me first say that I respect everyone’s beliefs and personal choices. I’m not interested in trying to make someone see or believe in anything. I didn’t believe in such things myself. I had to see it to believe it and I understand if others feel the same way too. The last thing I want is a flame war over beliefs.
I did not grow up wanting to be a psychic. I was actually going to be a chef. I really did not know what a psychic was. I also never though much about ghosts, aliens, or other kinds of paranormal phenomena. That all changed when I started working at a local movie theater in Marin county California.
I was working at a four-plex movie house. A number of employees told me that the theater was haunted and that the most active areas were in the theaters, the projection booth, and the attic. One employee said that her family did not like her working in a movie theater because her religion had them believing theaters were witch traps. She said that movies were dimensional doors. When one watches a movie, especially a horror movie, a spirit that matched the character on the screen is able to jump into our physical dimension. For example, if someone is watching A Nightmare on Elms Street, a horror movie depicting a demon that creates nightmares, a real demon is able to enter the earth plan. The demon then attaches to the movie patrons, later creating nightmares for them. She said that some of the spirits attach to the onlookers, while others haunt the theater itself. She then said that at night, the spirits come out at midnight, sit in the front row of each theater, and watch movies. I thought she was crazy.
I latter began to question whether she really was crazy after my first encounter with the ghosts. It was my first night closing the theater. My manager and I were the only people in the building. All four movies had ended and it was my job to check behind the screens to make sure no one was hiding behind them. I stood in the first theater, waiting for the lights to come on. The lights normally come on automatically, but sometimes the system failed. Standing in a large theater with all the lights out was a little creepy, but not particularly frightening.
As I stood there, I started to her two loud voices behind the screen. It was a male and a female communicating with each other. I could not understand what they were saying, all I could here was whispering. I thought, "Great, my first night closing and I have to deal with two punks hiding in the theater". I turned on the flashlight and shinned it on the screen where I heard the voices. Movie screens have small holes in them to allow sound from the front speakers to penetrate. Anyone behind the screen could easily see the light. Within a second of focusing the light in their direction, the voices stopped.
I turned the flashlight off and shortly thereafter, the voices started up again. I though it was strange that these people would start talking right after someone shinned a light on them. I turned the flashlight on them again and again they stopped talking. I did this at lease five times, turning off the light and having the voices start in again, then stopping them by turning the light on again. I though it was weird and I wanted to find out who was behind the screen. I went out into the lobby where I could see my manager sitting at his desk. I asked him to go up into the projection booth and turn on the lights. He said he would be up in a minute.
I immediately went back into the theater to prevent the two punks from getting away. I continued to stand in the dark, but I did not hear the voices. Instead, I heard loud footsteps walking around in the projection booth above me. The footsteps went back and forth several times. It sounded like Frankenstien was moving about up there. I wondered why my manager was walking around, but not turning on the lights. I suddenly realized that the only door leading up to the projection booth was right next to me. There was no way he could get there without seeing him.
I ran out into the lobby and when I saw him still sitting at his desk, my body filled with fear. I again asked him to please go upstairs and turn on the lights. Still in fear from hearing the footsteps, I did not go back in until he turned on the lights. Once they were on, I when back into the theater. I temporarily forgot about the footstep. All I could think about was the people hiding behind the screen. I pulled the curtain back and shinned the flashlight behind the screen. As soon as I realized there was no one hiding there, I heard those two voices whispering directly in my right ear. I ran right to the back of the theater, a very long run when you feel like ghosts are chasing you, and out into the lobby.
I was frightened, but I was not about to tell my manager. I had three more theaters to check, but I did not. Instead, I when through the lobby doors of each theater and hide behind them, pretending to check the rooms. I clocked out and went home.
That was just the first experience. Eventually I became a part of management and the chief projectionist. I spent five days a week in the projection booth. Three out of the five days in the booth were filled with terror. There was a very strong evil presence up there. The projection booth was like a long dark hallway. Each time the presence was there, I could feel someone or something looking at me from either end. It was more like a penetrating stare that I could feel inside my body. At times, I could even see dark shadowy figures lurking at either end.
I told other employees. Most of them had two or three experiences with the entity, but I was having three experiences a week. At the time, I did not realize my clairvoyance was opening. My psychic abilities allowed me to perceive the beings. That also meant I was having haunting experience after haunting experience because of my abilities.
One evening I was with another assistant manager taking inventory up stairs next to the projection booth. When we finished, we closed the door behind us and within a minute or two we heard a loud crash. We opened the door and saw that all the boxes had been thrown off the shelves and into the middle of the room. We quickly closed the door, ran down the stairs, and out of the building. We called the manager and told him that he needed to come down to the theater and lock the doors because we were not going back in that night.
After months of continuos ghostly encounters, I started have reoccurring nightmares. They were always the same. In the dream, I would find myself at work, taking inventory upstairs. I would start to hear a terrifying scratching sound coming from the attic. To look in the attic, I would climb up a ladder and peek my head though the opening in the attic floor. Each time I looked, I would see a large demon. It had a monstrous humanoid form with six horns on its' head, deep red eyes, and a skinless body showing only blood and muscle tissue.
I would run down into the lobby and get the management and employees. Together we would all go up into the stock room. Once we got there, the demon would run into the room, grab one of the assistant managers by the head, and pull her up into the attic. All of us would stand on the ladder and peek into the attic. There we could see the demon tearing the flesh off the assistant manager's body with its razor sharp claws.
It was at that point where I would wake up and end the dream. It was one of the most vivid nightmares I have ever had. With all the physical hauntings combined with the nightmares, I could not take it anymore. After one year of rubbing elbows with demonic ghosts, I quit. Immediately after leaving the theater business, the hauntings, which only occurred in the building, and the nightmares stopped.
Since that experience I sought out clairvoyant training to get control over the ability. Here are a few of the schools I training in:
*Graduated - The Berkeley Psychic Institute, Berkeley, CA
Clairvoyant Training Program – 2 Year Program – Graduated 1995
*Graduated - The Aesclepion Psychic Center, San Rafael, CA
Advance Readers Program – 6 Month Program – Graduated 1998
*Graduated - The Clairvoyant Center of Hawaii, Kailua-Kona, HI
Teachers Leadership Program – 3 Year Program – Graduated 2003
I have collected many paranormal stories in my 10 years as a professional psychic. I’m sure I can find a few more.
Sam The Egg
01-11-2004, 10:29 AM
they're all glitches in the Matrix
moonsorrow
01-11-2004, 10:31 AM
killer avatar starseed, it is shamefully a movie i havent heard anything about on this forum... but damn you talk to much!
starseed
01-11-2004, 10:38 AM
Here is a testimonial written by a client. They cracked me up. They were so scared when they called. They didn't believe in ghosts or anything. I think that is what made it even scarier for them.
I told them I couldn't see them until the next day. They were willing to pay three times my fee if I came right away. I came that night, but charged the normal fee. Three people in the house wittnessed the events
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To whom it may concern,
My name is Tony C. I am a professional engineer working in the San Francisco Bay Area. If I had not witnessed the following events with my own eyes, I would not believe that they had occurred, but they did.
Sunday - My wife Kristie was cleaning the house. She noticed a presence that she could not explain. Someone laid their hands on her shoulder as she was vacuuming our bedroom and the vacuum kept turning on and off at random. As she turned to look, up she saw a shadowy outline of a man standing in one corner of the bedroom. This startled her as one might imagine. The remainder of Sunday was uneventful.
Monday - After Kristie came home, weird things started happening in the house. I walked into our bedroom and noticed that our pillows were stacked on the bed in the shape of an "A" and my lamp was turned upside down and balanced on its shade. My wife and our roommate both came to see. Okay, I thought, someone came in through the window and did this. Later in the evening, every time one of us would go into our bedroom, something would be turned upside down. The clock, the lamp, and the pillows. In our kitchen, one chair would be turned upside down on top of the kitchen table. All three of us started to get very frightened and eventually left the house, believing it was haunted.
Tuesday - We returned to our home and as soon as we arrived, everything started happening again. I contacted a well-known woman psychic who could come over that night to clear our house of what she referred to as beings. She came over and sat us down around the dining room table. She supposedly went into a trance, talked with "Arnie", Kristie's dead father, and helped him into the light. She told us that he loved us and that he wanted us to know that he was taking care of his girl. Upon payment of $225.00 to this psychic, she guaranteed that our house was now cleared. We had no choice but to believe her.
Wednesday - There was no activity in the house all day. We did not know then that this would be the scariest night of any of our lives. Kristie came home from work at 7:15 p.m. At 7:30, our house was turned completely upside down as before but much more. In our bedroom, Kristie began to see the same being she had seen on Sunday. He began to talk to her saying that he was going to hurt her. It was very frightening, to say the least. The being, who called himself Michael, actually pushed Kristie back and she landed in my arms. At one point, she felt him enter her body. She took on the voice of a man. I tried everything I could to convince Michael to leave but he would not. He just kept on terrorizing my wife as well as me. I was so frightened that I decided we would stay at the motel again that night. About half way to the motel, Kristie turned around and said that Michael was in the car with us. I told her not to talk to him. It did not matter. When we got to the motel the chair in the room had been turned upside down. All my wife could do was cry. It seemed that it entered her body and stayed there. She took on the male voice again and told me that nothing was ever going to be okay again. During this time, I had been calling the psychic that had guaranteed her work. She never called back. We were completely exhausted and finally fell asleep. We did not sleep well.
Thursday - Kristie and I returned home. I was determined that my darling wife was not going to go through any more of these hauntings or whatever it was. I pulled out the phone book and called everyone listed under psychics. At some point during the day, I got in touch with one psychic that actually impressed me. As I talk to him on the telephone, he described the being to me just as Kristie had. For some reason, I knew right then that this guy could help us. I think he sensed my anxiety and agreed to be at our house before Kristie got there. This man's name is (Edited)STARSEED and we think God that he came into our lives.
When I arrived with Kristie from picking her up at the bus stop, (Edited)STARSEED introduced himself to Kristie and asked her to sit directly across from him at the dining room table. For the next two hours, he was in trance and removed the beings from Kristie's space and from the house. As it turns out, Kristie is highly psychic and these paranormal activities were occurring through her. He removed all of the negative spirits from Kristie's space saying that this particular being was tricky and did not want to leave. We knew this. Kristie could actually see the being, so (Edited)STARSEED drew on her power to erase him. At the end of the session, (Edited)STARSEED and Kristie walked through the house and my wife could tell that it was gone and it was not coming back. Her burden had been lifted, her space lightened, and her life changed forever. Now, instead of Kristie seeing that frightening being, she is able to see her guardian angel, named Samuel, who is helping my wife to develop her psychic abilities. Our journey has changed course now, our beliefs have been transformed, and our reality has been forever altered by the events of that week. We thank God for (Edited)STARSEED.
Tony and Kristie C.
starseed
01-11-2004, 10:49 AM
You're not the first person to accuse me of talking too much. ;)
I just felt that people are deciding that ghosts and such aren't real without any education or experience. TV dramatizes everything and takes real experiences and moves it into TV fantasy.
Before one makes such a decision, educated yourself first. Read a bunch of books and better yet, talk to people who have had some experiences.
I'll re-post this because it applies here-
The human EGO is very interesting. The ego is a part of every human consciousness. It keeps our mind grounded with a feeling of understanding and knowledge. It give us a sense of knowing self and the world around us. It's what makes everyone think they know everything (including me). The ego does not like mysteries. If the human ego can't comprehend something, it will most likely say it's not real or explain it away.
Someone said they believed in life in the universe, but not intelligent life. That is a great example of the ego. The ego can comprehend life in the universe, but not intelligent life. Hence their belief system. None of which has anything to do with reality.
It's why paranormal phenomena is difficult to prove. Ghosts, aliens, and all things psychic are ethereal, not physical. Our ego wants psychical proof of things non-physical. The physical proof doesn't exist because it's not physical to begin with.
OK OK I'll stop now.
Mud Mutt
01-11-2004, 10:49 AM
I have to agree with meetthecreeper, I too believe in all these things. I grew up in a haunted house. (still own it too) Oh and Spoon, hauntings don't just happen at night, most of my experiances in that house were in the middle of the afternoon.
As for werewolves, vampires and other kin, yup I do believe in them as well. The problem most people have is they think too "Hollywood" when thinking of werewolves and vampires. Do a little research in folklore and you'll learn that real life werewolves and vampires are nothing like Hollywood ones. In fokelore you will almost never find a hybrid werewolf ie. wolfman. In fact most fokelore discribe a werewolf as a wolf, the main things that seperated the wolf from the werewolf was eyes and tail. Many werewolves of fokelore were said to be tailless. Not to mention the fact that most werewolves of fokelore were not evil blood thirsty indivuals. Some were curse to become wolves but they never changed in spirit, just body. I have read a few different werewolf fokelores where the werewolves were leaders of a Christian church. Vampires in fokelore are also greatly different from their Hollywood off spring. As creeper has mentioned Vlad the impailer the real life warlord that inspired Strokers Dracula. He is rumored to have risein from his grave shortly after his demise. Who knows did he?, He could have he did practice allot of weird rituals.
Anyhowls, on with aliens them to, as creeper has mentioned this universe is way to huge to believe we are the only ones. I just hope when the time comes and they make an apperance for real they are nothing like Hollywood aliens.
moonsorrow
01-11-2004, 10:50 AM
haha, by al means keep talking seed, you seam like an interesting person
Malicious_Mirth
01-11-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by moonsorrow
haha, by al means keep talking seed, you seam like an interesting person
no shit man
i would like to hear more of these stories
Sick_As_Fuck
01-11-2004, 04:24 PM
No one knows for sure what does or doesn't exist in the world. There's so many things in this universe that we haven't learned about yet. I myself believe in ghosts for sure, and am willing to believe that anything else someone says exists truly does. And if you think I'm stupid, well, then proveme wrong.
meetthecreeper
01-11-2004, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
No one knows for sure what does or doesn't exist in the world. There's so many things in this universe that we haven't learned about yet. I myself believe in ghosts for sure, and am willing to believe that anything else someone says exists truly does. And if you think I'm stupid, well, then proveme wrong.
Who cares if people think your stupid? Personally I think that your mind wont allow you to see somethings because it cannot comprehend what it is seeing. I think people have been told all their lives these things dont exist and that makes the mind think that way. I wont ever tell my children that these things dont exist just that some people cant see them.
Starseed, it sounds to me like your gift is almost a curse, I said before I am somewhat psychic, but no where near what it seems you are. I dont think that I would want to be either I think it would turn me into Poe, and have the same demise as he did.
Blessed Be my friend
starseed
01-11-2004, 06:02 PM
It was a curse when it first turned on at 17. It was really scary and I thought I was crazy.
But I got clairvoyant training and now it's a gift and I love it. Although I can see ghosts and demons and such. It doesn't scare me. I know I have authority over them and I know how to destroy the really nasty ones or any that think about messing with me. Usually they are more scared of me than the other way around. They aren't used to humans seeing them. (I'm talking about the dark ones - the nice fun beings don't care much and actually like being seen - it does surprise them when a human sees them though).
Who wouldn't like knowing when someone lies to you or hearing their thought. Gives one a big edge in this world. I'd never want to go back to being unconscious.
When I watch the news, I understand the dark forces on the planet that creates the stories. (i.e. wars, murders, depression, pain, destruction of the rain forest, etc.) It's just part of the natural evolution of things.
Clairvoyant development is a process. Layers upon layers of unconsciousness release and one becomes more and more aware of the world we live in. In development, there are layers of fear that one must move through - it's fear of knowing the unknown that keeps people from seeing. Look at all the thing people do to stay unconscious (watch TV all day - drink or do drugs - denial - bury oneself in work - obsess on relationships - etc. etc. etc.)Clairvoyance is all about knowing your own truth and being aware. One can use it to learn about anything. There is know way to know everything. In fact, the more aware I become, the more I know how little I know.
At one point I was doing a lot of work with alien abductees. Getting clients was easy since I wrote monthly articles about the UFO phenomena and there was a contact number. They called me and I'd "read" their experiences. It's far better to learn about aliens by seeing it for yourself compared to reading someone else's information in a book.
People come to me for help and I help them. And it's fun being psychic.
Horror movies dramatize the dark world, but it's far more real than people think. Were all psychic, even if we don't know it and that includes the horror writer. I've learned allot from horror movies such as:
*Communion = understanding alien abduction
*The Three Faces of Eve (not horror) = understanding unconscious Transmediumship
*The Ceremony = understanding fallen angels
*Star Trek Series (not horror) = many spiritual teachings
*They Live = what it's like to live as a clairvoyant - also how the dark grid controls the planet - very real concepts there
I could go on, but I need to eat.
bloodygurl02
01-11-2004, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Oh this could take a while, Dragons, unicorns, pegasus, things of that nature, I believe they exist for those that want to believe that they do. Maybe not on this plane of existance but on an etheral plane. Demons exists, ghosts and such. Aliens, I am sure they do I think it would be arrogant for the human race to believe that we are the only intellegent life in the universe. Pixies and fairies also known as leprachauns and elves and such, oh they exist, they like to steal things from you and return them later, especially shiny things. they do this to me all the time. I lose a chrome socket at work,after I just set it down and it disappears only to reappear in the same spot later. Sometimes I can hear their little giggles, my children see them all the time.
Vampyre, Vlad the Impaler comes to mind, Werewolves well could be were-anything not just wolves. Lycanthrope is a state of mind, changing yourself into animal form, Indians do it so do the Aboriginies, I have a few books on the subject, never tried it myself but I believe its possible. There is way to much of the human mind that is untapped and not in use, or we are not sure how to develop it. I know this sounds strange but I personally have ESP, I can communicate to my kids and people that I am really close 2 thru my mind. My lady gets mad at me some times for reading her thoughts. I can also tell when people are lying to me, I can only do this face to face though and it kind of makes it hard to keep friends sometimes. I also developed the art of invisibility, learned it from the martial arts, Ninjas did this in ancient Japan, you dont really turn invisible you just make people think that your not there. I know it sounds crazy but I can tell you many people have witnessed it.
wellput creeper:D . i love faires and i believe in a lot of things exsisting like nessie and big foot lots of animlas like that go un discovered and new species r being found everyday. i also believe in aliens. its a big universe and most is yet to be discovered and somewhere there has to b other life forms we just haven't found them yet. i believe in fairies, dragons and unicorns. i also believe atlantis and the bermuda triangle exsist. i believe in ghosts cuz i have seen one but seeing doesn't mean u have to believe in it for it to b real as long as u believe in it then that should b enuff. at times i get negative vibes about stuff which i feel is like esp and its always right on. i know it may make me sound like a weirdo but, i do believe in this stuff. i would like to end my post w/ a quote form the show sightings
"No mystery is closed to an open mind"